Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 Cheese and Wine party venue

2014-07-30 Thread Gerald Turner
Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com writes:
 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
 Hi Gerald,

 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:08:22AM -0700, Gerald Turner wrote:
 Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com writes:
  On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com 
  wrote:
  I would say that there are lots of policies and rules that
  Debconf attendees need to comply with to travel to the U.S. that
  they may not agree with. I'm certain their policy is just along
  the lines of covering them for any possible liability and about
  appropriate conduct.
 
  WIthout wanting to bikeshed, wouldn't the pragmatic approach be to
  request a copy and go through it instead of making largely
  baseless assumptions?

 Here is Puppet Labs Code of Conduct:

   
 http://docs.puppetlabs.com/community/community_guidelines.html#event-code-of-conduct

 Yesterday I got a reply from Puppet Labs, looks like they'll accept
 an export of our summit data rather than have us use Eventbrite, and
 also looks like they agree that our CoC and their CoC are in
 alignment (For the most part, I feel they are in sync).

 One thing I'm concerned about is whether attendees are going to be
 upset about disclosing their personal information to Puppet Labs in
 this way.  Of course it's preferable over having to share it with an
 external third party (event brite), but in that case at least the
 people choosing to attend the CW party are in control of what data
 is shared.  What is the overall thinking here about the data we'll
 export?

 AIUI, PuppetLabs wants name and email for the people attending (they
 also want physical address, but we explained this wasn't available
 and they were ok with it).  Should we try to insist on only giving
 them names, since they have no reason to contact people by email
 afterwards?  They mostly just want a headcount, right?

 I personally feel that in this case, that giving the names people
 registered with may be ok, since without email addresses, it's not
 really that exploitable, nor is it unreasonable to have a list of
 names at the door, to manage headcount. IE: The request makes sense.

 I would say that we should perhaps see if we can negotiate some method
 for a few late adds, in the event someone's plans change, and want to
 attend. (Unless it's a capacity issue.) (We'll still tell people it's
 mandatory to RSVP).

 That said, without further explanation as to why they want/need email
 addresses, I don't think we should share them. (I can't think of an
 obvious reason that they'd want them, that I'd find agreeable, but I
 may be missing something.)

 Strawman:

  - add a CW party sign-up checkbox to the website
  - include a disclaimer letting people know their name and email will
be shared with PuppetLabs as the event host
  - include a pointer to the CoC
  - send out a mail to debconf-announce the week of the conference (no
earlier!) with sign-up instructions and a stated deadline

 Is this in line with what other people are expecting here?

Update (good news):

We decided¹ to go with Steve's Strawman idea.

Puppet Labs will accept names-only (no email addresses).

However Puppet Labs needs the export two business days before the event
which would be Thursday August 21st.

¹ http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2014/debconf-team.2014-07-29-18.58.html

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Re: [Debconf-team] Website to watch streaming of the DebConf14

2014-07-30 Thread Carl Karsten
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com
wrote:

 (Cc:ing debconf-video)

 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 08:59:07PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
  On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:25:36PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
I'm thinking of using similar tools (cortado[4], html+css, html5
tagvideo) similar code of the previous editions, however, in place
of IRC webchat.oftc, wanting to try the scrollback[5], being a free
tool which integrates with social networking and IRC.
Also is open to other suggestions and collaborations. Bring the
contents of transmission DebConf14 a larger number of developers and
contributors.
   Could you take a look at http://timvideos.us/ ? We're running video
 for
   a conference right now, so you can see real things going on. You can
   find the source in https://github.com/timvideos. You may want to hack
   this one and have it integrated to other tools of your preference.
   Anyway, you're also free to use other stuff as you did great for past
   DCs. You can talk to me directly if you need quick responses in pt_BR,
   I'm becoming quite involved with video team from next days so I may be
   useful on this.
  It's probably worth mentioning that Summit, which we're using this year,
 has
  built-in support for linking IRC channels and video in-line in the page
 for
  each session.

 To be clear, do you mean the icecast_url field in summit.schedule.Room ?


No.

It is yet another code base.  It is both streaming server and django
website to build a central page of streams that shows images taken from
each  stream every 5 seconds.  Plus a bunch of other features like js irc
chat on the same page.

 You can  find the source in https://github.com/timvideos.

http://timvideos.us/  is an instance of it.  Currently there is no event
streaming, and because it dynamicaly builds the main page based on the talk
schedule, it doesn't look like much.

If someone wants to make it better let me know and I'll document out how to
bring up a dev instance with dummy streams.


from what I've found so far that just displays a link to some external
 place to view the live stream. Valessio is talking about making a nice
 looking page that we could link to from there. It will make it easy for
 viewers to watch directly in their browsers and provide other nice
 stuff. I haven't yet found that kind of functionality in summit. If you
 have, please point me at it.

  If there are tools other than those currently in place which
  you would like us to use, perhaps you can do that integration in Summit,
 so
  we don't accidentally end up with multiple pages with different IRC/video
  views?
 
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit

 I'm getting decently comfortable with the summit code. So, I can likely
 help if we decide to integrate Valessio's work directly into summit.
 Just pointing to his creation from the schedule is probably sufficient,
 though, and less work.

 -edrz
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Re: [Debconf-team] Website to watch streaming of the DebConf14

2014-07-30 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 08:56:36PM -0400, Carl Karsten wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com
 wrote:
  It's probably worth mentioning that Summit, which we're using this year,
 has
  built-in support for linking IRC channels and video in-line in the page
 for
  each session.
 
 To be clear, do you mean the icecast_url field in summit.schedule.Room ?

My question was to Steve wrt Summit ... has built-in support ...
in-line. All I've seen so far in Summit is a field to put a URL
in. 

Nonetheless, your answer is interesting.

 No.
 
 It is yet another code base.  It is both streaming server and django website 
 to
 build a central page of streams that shows images taken from each  stream 
 every
 5 seconds.  Plus a bunch of other features like js irc chat on the same page. 
 
  You can  find the source in https://github.com/timvideos.
 
 http://timvideos.us/  is an instance of it.  Currently there is no event
 streaming, and because it dynamicaly builds the main page based on the talk
 schedule, it doesn't look like much.
 
 If someone wants to make it better let me know and I'll document out how to
 bring up a dev instance with dummy streams.
 
 
 
 from what I've found so far that just displays a link to some external
 place to view the live stream. Valessio is talking about making a nice
 looking page that we could link to from there. It will make it easy for
 viewers to watch directly in their browsers and provide other nice
 stuff. I haven't yet found that kind of functionality in summit. If you
 have, please point me at it.
 
  If there are tools other than those currently in place which
  you would like us to use, perhaps you can do that integration in Summit,
 so
  we don't accidentally end up with multiple pages with different 
 IRC/video
  views?
 
    https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit
 
 I'm getting decently comfortable with the summit code. So, I can likely
 help if we decide to integrate Valessio's work directly into summit.
 Just pointing to his creation from the schedule is probably sufficient,
 though, and less work.
 
 -edrz

-edrz
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