Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-21 Thread René Mayorga
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:39:12AM -0500, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 08:44:38PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
  also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 19:50 +0100]:
   1) Title
 ...
   7) Notes to Content team (New requested type)
  
  What about the list of presenters/organisers?
 
 Do you mean the list that an event proposer/creator gets to choose from
 to select Participants?
 
 I recall some were concerned about this exposing the list of attendees.

Indeed, that is why we marked this field as Remove:

   6) Participants  list ( remove )

 If we disable it in the propose_event form, I guess events with multiple
 speakers/organizers/whatever would require intervention by someone with
 special summit perms.

Ack, normally there are not many talk with multiple presenters, we -as
content team- may be able to manage this when is requested.

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-21 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 09:56:04PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 21:31 +0100]:
   What about the list of presenters/organisers?
  
  Currently the submitter of the event is the drafter(owner) of the event,
  we need to make sure if summit can handle multiple owners for one talk,
  a field for this can be included, but also there are not too much  events
  with multiple owners, then if it is supported we can also add the rest
  of the owners from the admin interface?

During DC14 we modified summit so that it displays  the list of people
in required_attendees as Speakers: . This automatically includes the
drafter. Others can be declared required via the admin. (There might
also be one or more forms outside the admin, but I'm not immediately
remembering which.)

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-21 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 09:56:04PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 21:31 +0100]:
   What about the list of presenters/organisers?
  
  Currently the submitter of the event is the drafter(owner) of the event,
  we need to make sure if summit can handle multiple owners for one talk,
  a field for this can be included, but also there are not too much  events
  with multiple owners, then if it is supported we can also add the rest
  of the owners from the admin interface?
 
 Right, this should be a 1:∞ relation and with Django it should not
 be hard to hack this up quickly for the event owner to control
 themselves.

That would seem to require presenting the owner with the list of
attendees from which to choose. Since it's been requested that we remove
that field from the propose_event form, doesn't it follow that we ought
not expose it elsewhere?

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com [2015-01-21 06:27 +0100]:
 To my thinking, ad-hoc is not an attribute of an event, but of the
 combination of time slot and room into which it might be scheduled. In
 summit-speak, I think we should make a new Ad-hoc type of a Slot. It is
 probably possible to make it so that such slot/room combinations aren't
 available for scheduling until we want them to be. i.e. 24 hours in
 advance, or whatever time limit content team decides.

Ack. Please compare to Self-scheduling in
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit#DC15_wishlist

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com [2015-01-21 06:39 +0100]:
 Do you mean the list that an event proposer/creator gets to choose
 from to select Participants?
 
 I recall some were concerned about this exposing the list of
 attendees.

How about letting others sign up for events and then the owner ack
them? That's basically just another SQL table, nothing more.

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[Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-20 Thread René Mayorga
Hi all, 

You can find bellow the fields that we will like to use on the
event submission form for DC15

Please note that some fields are new and are marked as such.

1) Title
2) Description
3) Track
4) Type:
+ Plenary
+ Talk (New requested type, s/Presentation/Talk/)
+ BoF
+ Social (New requested type)
+ Special event.
+ Ad-Hoc (New requested type)
5) URLs 
6) Participants  list ( remove )
7) Notes to Content team (New requested type)



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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-20 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 08:44:38PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 19:50 +0100]:
...
  4) Type:
  + Plenary
  + Talk (New requested type, s/Presentation/Talk/)
 Just out of curiosity: why?
  + BoF
  + Social (New requested type)
  + Special event.
  + Ad-Hoc (New requested type)
 Will you disable ad-hoc submissions until the conference?

To my thinking, ad-hoc is not an attribute of an event, but of the
combination of time slot and room into which it might be scheduled. In
summit-speak, I think we should make a new Ad-hoc type of a Slot. It is
probably possible to make it so that such slot/room combinations aren't
available for scheduling until we want them to be. i.e. 24 hours in
advance, or whatever time limit content team decides.

Then within those slots any appropriate type (talk, BoF, social,
discussion, what-have-you) of Ad-Hoc events could be scheduled.

Being Ad-Hoc is about when an event's creator(s) gets to claim space and
time for it. Not about what said event is going to do with that
spacetime.
 
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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-20 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 08:44:38PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 19:50 +0100]:
  1) Title
...
  7) Notes to Content team (New requested type)
 
 What about the list of presenters/organisers?

Do you mean the list that an event proposer/creator gets to choose from
to select Participants?

I recall some were concerned about this exposing the list of attendees.
If we disable it in the propose_event form, I guess events with multiple
speakers/organizers/whatever would require intervention by someone with
special summit perms.

-edrz
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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-20 Thread René Mayorga
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 08:44:38PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 19:50 +0100]:
  4) Type:
  + Plenary
  + Talk (New requested type, s/Presentation/Talk/)
 Just out of curiosity: why?

During the discussion about this, some people feel that Talk is more
suitable than presentation, allowing the attendants to participate a bit
more on a talk, also most of the presentation on DebConf encourage QA
and participation from the audience.

  + Ad-Hoc (New requested type)
 
 Will you disable ad-hoc submissions until the conference?

The procedure for this is not defined yet, this is still on discussion.

  6) Participants  list ( remove )
  7) Notes to Content team (New requested type)
 
 What about the list of presenters/organisers?

Currently the submitter of the event is the drafter(owner) of the event,
we need to make sure if summit can handle multiple owners for one talk,
a field for this can be included, but also there are not too much  events
with multiple owners, then if it is supported we can also add the rest
of the owners from the admin interface?

 What about feedback from participants?

I guess the event submission form is not the place to include feedback
for participants, specially if the event didn't happen yet :)

Cheers

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[Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-20 Thread René Mayorga
Hi all, 

You can find bellow the fields that we will like to use on the
event submission form for DC15

Please note that some fields are new and are marked as such.

1) Title
2) Description
3) Track
4) Type:
+ Plenary
+ Talk (New requested type, s/Presentation/Talk/)
+ BoF
+ Social (New requested type)
+ Special event.
+ Ad-Hoc (New requested type)
5) URLs 
6) Participants  list ( remove )
7) Notes to Content team (New requested type)



Cheers

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 21:31 +0100]:
  What about the list of presenters/organisers?
 
 Currently the submitter of the event is the drafter(owner) of the event,
 we need to make sure if summit can handle multiple owners for one talk,
 a field for this can be included, but also there are not too much  events
 with multiple owners, then if it is supported we can also add the rest
 of the owners from the admin interface?

Right, this should be a 1:∞ relation and with Django it should not
be hard to hack this up quickly for the event owner to control
themselves.

  What about feedback from participants?
 
 I guess the event submission form is not the place to include feedback
 for participants, specially if the event didn't happen yet :)

Ah, sorry. I got sidetracked… ;)

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

2015-01-20 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 19:50 +0100]:
 1) Title
 2) Description
 3) Track
 4) Type:
 + Plenary
 + Talk (New requested type, s/Presentation/Talk/)

Just out of curiosity: why?

 + BoF
 + Social (New requested type)
 + Special event.
 + Ad-Hoc (New requested type)

Will you disable ad-hoc submissions until the conference?

 5) URLs   
 6) Participants  list ( remove )
 7) Notes to Content team (New requested type)

What about the list of presenters/organisers?

What about feedback from participants?

Thanks,

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