Re: [Debconf-video] video index site

2014-08-20 Thread Carl Karsten
Thanks Jeremy.

for demo and review, can I get dns entry:
videos.debian.org   23.253.40.202

I don't want to have to answer Why are we using your domain?





On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:

 On Aug 19, 2014 9:29 PM, Carl Karsten c...@personnelware.com wrote:
  What do I need to do to get this up an running on a box?  I don't care
 who does the install - I would rather not have root on production boxes

 + cc: ad...@debconf.org

 more context included below.

 -Jeremy

 On Aug 19, 2014 9:29 PM, Carl Karsten c...@personnelware.com wrote:
  I would like to setup http://videoS.debian.net or something.  It's low
 hanging fruit - low tech and man hour resources, and it's kinda cool.
 
  Heres the scoop:
 
  http://video.debian.net points to a box that hosts video files.  good.
 I don't want to change that, the files for dc14 will go there just like
 always.
 
  There was an effort to use miro communities to index all the debian
 videos, I think that failed, that plan didn't work out for
 python.mirocomunites.org.
 
  There is a project called richard: https://github.com/willkg/richard
 
  Here are some instances: http://pyvideo.org videos.writethedocs.org
 video.nodepdx.org video.open-bio.org videos.pumpingstationone.org
 
  and some more reading http://pyvideo.org/pages/about
 
  I setup a demo instance and pushed this years conf data into it, but
 they are all in draft state so that no one stumbles across it and complains
 that there are no videos.  Here is what a page looks like:
 
 
 http://videoindex.debian.nextdayvideo.com/video/2/debian-in-the-dark-ages-of-free-software
 
  Here is the deployment script:  https://github.com/CarlFK/richard-deploy
  It is a basic django app, it lets the user search the metadata and
 really just gives them the URL of the video.
 
  What do I need to do to get this up an running on a box?  I don't care
 who does the install - I would rather not have root on production boxes,




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Re: [Debconf-video] video index site

2014-08-20 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Aug 20, 2014 10:28 AM, Carl Karsten c...@personnelware.com wrote:
 for demo and review, can I get dns entry:
 videos.debian.org   23.253.40.202

debian.net is relatively trivial. (any DD can do it)

debian.org is harder. (but idk what the process is)

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Re: [Debconf-video] video index site

2014-08-20 Thread Carl Karsten
whatever is quickest.

videos.debian.net is preferred, it helps show the content can be more than
just debconf.

videos.debconf.org would be fine too given for the next few weeks it will
only be dc14.





On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:

 On Aug 20, 2014 10:28 AM, Carl Karsten c...@personnelware.com wrote:
  for demo and review, can I get dns entry:
  videos.debian.org   23.253.40.202

 debian.net is relatively trivial. (any DD can do it)

 debian.org is harder. (but idk what the process is)

 -Jeremy

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Re: [Debconf-video] video index site

2014-08-20 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Carl Karsten c...@personnelware.com wrote:
 for demo and review, can I get dns entry:
 videos.debian.org   23.253.40.202

Does it really make sense to have 'video' and 'videos' at once? It
seems as if this would lead to confusion down the road.

Will the service at videoS.d.n live for a long time? If not, another
namespace may be better.

In this specific case, video.debconf14.debconf.org might be the best
option. Event-specific and without risk of confusion. It _is_ kinda
long, though.


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Re: [Debconf-video] video index site

2014-08-20 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:

 videos.d.n is quite very confusing as there is already video.d.n

Seconded. This is what mailman held due to a missing subscription
(with the correct sending address):

Does it really make sense to have 'video' and 'videos' at once? It
seems as if this would lead to confusion down the road.

Will the service at videoS.d.n live for a long time? If not, another
namespace may be better.

In this specific case, video.debconf14.debconf.org might be the best
option. Event-specific and without risk of confusion. It _is_ kinda
long, though.


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Re: [Debconf-video] video index site

2014-08-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Mittwoch, 20. August 2014, Carl Karsten wrote:
 If anyone thinks  video.debian.net can be used, that wold be great.

frankly I dont think it can, at least not easily, or to say it differently: 
don't break existing, published, working URLs.

doh.


cheers,
Holger


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Re: [Debconf-video] dc14 video setup and training schedule

2014-08-20 Thread Carl Karsten
short: I need help with packaging. not for dc14 which should give you an
idea of how comfortable I am with how dc14 things are going.

Others share your thoughts too, so I am addressing the group, not you
personally.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Frank Lin PIAT fp...@klabs.be wrote:

 Hello,

 On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 13:57 -0500, Carl Karsten wrote:
  For anyone that was planning on helping setup on Thursday, there won't
  be much to do.  for 100 reasons I pushed the equipment delivery to
  Friday.
 We don't need 100 reasons, one would be enough.


A friend asked me to make a video of his mom's funeral.2 cameras,
DVswtich and the rest of the stack gives us

http://s3.us.archive.org/test_ndv_archive_uploader/dyanne.webm?Signature=vA6jzrgKB8cbrmPhIbWalCMeojQ%3DExpires=1408555628AWSAccessKeyId=FEWGReWX3QbNk0h3

She was a theater producer, the show you see there was her last script. It
was a good show. RIP Dyanne.



 On the opposite there were some good reasons to deliver the equipments
 earlier:
 * Some people planned to arrive ahead to setup, test and adjust
   the setup.


please please please work on software.  See other dc-v posts for
suggestions.   Later today I'll collect them into a wiki page.

Maybe track down what CCC did for Erou PyCon, I hear they had some troubles
due to the poor state of the various video processing projects.
(gst-switch is the one I care most about.)

If you must work on hardware, i am sure the networking team has an endless
supply of tasks. I can't imagine them saying we are done, there is nothing
more we can do.



 * There is zero margins in your setup plan, shit happens ! Not just
   delivery, Not just harware, Not just software, not just network...
   anything, not to mention the  Bus Factor (1 = You)


Not true.  We don't need 2 hours lunches, we can be in the rooms till 10p..
etc.

Really we don't have to start on Friday at all, so thats and extra 24
hours.

The proposed schedule is very relaxed.


 * By not delivering the hardware before, you decided yourself to use
   your software setup, your configuration. but no documentations.


Not true.



 You seems to take little care of what existed before you decided to
 takeover DebConf video stuff with your stuffs.


You seems to take little care of the bad reputation for Debian, DebConf
 and the VideoTeam if anything goes wrong.


Well, you seem to want to do everything your way, on your own. You may
 find yourself a little bit alone.



I am very concerned with all these things is seems you think I don't care
about.
not sure this matters.




 I hope I am 100% wrong, still, I stroke my name through on the wiki help
 page until i get a better understanding (or remove my name completely
 otherwise)


other than people's offers to help feeling unappreciated, I am not too
worried about it.  I am very good at setting up rooms, I am not good at all
in sorting out packaging issues and the few times I have tried it has
driven me crazy.  I would be very appreciative of some help with that.

But volunteers can do whatever they want, so no one should get too upset
about it ok?



 Franklin

 (who suddenly has 3 unplanned holydays in Portland. even though he would
 have spent it with his wife and daughter)







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Re: [Debconf-video] video index site

2014-08-20 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On 08/20/2014 11:12 AM, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Mittwoch, 20. August 2014, Carl Karsten wrote:
 If anyone thinks  video.debian.net can be used, that wold be great.
 
 frankly I dont think it can, at least not easily, or to say it differently: 
 don't break existing, published, working URLs.

But direct links to videos go to meetings-archive.debian.ne/X right?
So where it could break if it's only an index address?

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Re: [Debconf-video] dc14 video setup and training schedule

2014-08-20 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 06:23:55PM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 13:57 -0500, Carl Karsten wrote:
  For anyone that was planning on helping setup on Thursday, there won't
  be much to do.  for 100 reasons I pushed the equipment delivery to
  Friday.  
 We don't need 100 reasons, one would be enough.
 On the opposite there were some good reasons to deliver the equipments
 earlier: 
 * Some people planned to arrive ahead to setup, test and adjust
   the setup.

It isn't mentioned in Carl's mail of the setup schedule, but previously
none of the talk rooms were reserved on Thursday and only the ballroom
was reserved on Friday and that for only 4 hours in the evening.

This setup schedule is actually an improvement worked out with the
localteam and the building management. 

-edrz
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