Re: [Debconf-video] dc14 video setup and training schedule

2014-08-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 20. August 2014, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 It isn't mentioned in Carl's mail of the setup schedule, but previously
 none of the talk rooms were reserved on Thursday and only the ballroom
 was reserved on Friday and that for only 4 hours in the evening.

I wonder whether anybody expected to have video at all then ;-P


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Re: [Debconf-video] dc14 video setup and training schedule

2014-08-21 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 03:02:47AM -0700, Holger Levsen wrote:
 On Mittwoch, 20. August 2014, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
  It isn't mentioned in Carl's mail of the setup schedule, but previously
  none of the talk rooms were reserved on Thursday and only the ballroom
  was reserved on Friday and that for only 4 hours in the evening.
 
 I wonder whether anybody expected to have video at all then ;-P

There have clearly been communication problems all around throughout the
dc14 cycle.

I'm not pointing any fingers or laying any blame. Doing so would not be
be helpful in any way that I can see. Nor do I mean to stoke the flames
of any anger or resentment or other negative stuff.

I only hoped to point out that videoteam and localteam managed to
workout something better wrt the setup schedule than what was going to
be available as of a week ago.

-edrz
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Re: [Debconf-video] dc14 video setup and training schedule

2014-08-20 Thread Carl Karsten
short: I need help with packaging. not for dc14 which should give you an
idea of how comfortable I am with how dc14 things are going.

Others share your thoughts too, so I am addressing the group, not you
personally.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Frank Lin PIAT fp...@klabs.be wrote:

 Hello,

 On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 13:57 -0500, Carl Karsten wrote:
  For anyone that was planning on helping setup on Thursday, there won't
  be much to do.  for 100 reasons I pushed the equipment delivery to
  Friday.
 We don't need 100 reasons, one would be enough.


A friend asked me to make a video of his mom's funeral.2 cameras,
DVswtich and the rest of the stack gives us

http://s3.us.archive.org/test_ndv_archive_uploader/dyanne.webm?Signature=vA6jzrgKB8cbrmPhIbWalCMeojQ%3DExpires=1408555628AWSAccessKeyId=FEWGReWX3QbNk0h3

She was a theater producer, the show you see there was her last script. It
was a good show. RIP Dyanne.



 On the opposite there were some good reasons to deliver the equipments
 earlier:
 * Some people planned to arrive ahead to setup, test and adjust
   the setup.


please please please work on software.  See other dc-v posts for
suggestions.   Later today I'll collect them into a wiki page.

Maybe track down what CCC did for Erou PyCon, I hear they had some troubles
due to the poor state of the various video processing projects.
(gst-switch is the one I care most about.)

If you must work on hardware, i am sure the networking team has an endless
supply of tasks. I can't imagine them saying we are done, there is nothing
more we can do.



 * There is zero margins in your setup plan, shit happens ! Not just
   delivery, Not just harware, Not just software, not just network...
   anything, not to mention the  Bus Factor (1 = You)


Not true.  We don't need 2 hours lunches, we can be in the rooms till 10p..
etc.

Really we don't have to start on Friday at all, so thats and extra 24
hours.

The proposed schedule is very relaxed.


 * By not delivering the hardware before, you decided yourself to use
   your software setup, your configuration. but no documentations.


Not true.



 You seems to take little care of what existed before you decided to
 takeover DebConf video stuff with your stuffs.


You seems to take little care of the bad reputation for Debian, DebConf
 and the VideoTeam if anything goes wrong.


Well, you seem to want to do everything your way, on your own. You may
 find yourself a little bit alone.



I am very concerned with all these things is seems you think I don't care
about.
not sure this matters.




 I hope I am 100% wrong, still, I stroke my name through on the wiki help
 page until i get a better understanding (or remove my name completely
 otherwise)


other than people's offers to help feeling unappreciated, I am not too
worried about it.  I am very good at setting up rooms, I am not good at all
in sorting out packaging issues and the few times I have tried it has
driven me crazy.  I would be very appreciative of some help with that.

But volunteers can do whatever they want, so no one should get too upset
about it ok?



 Franklin

 (who suddenly has 3 unplanned holydays in Portland. even though he would
 have spent it with his wife and daughter)







-- 
Carl K
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Re: [Debconf-video] dc14 video setup and training schedule

2014-08-20 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 06:23:55PM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 13:57 -0500, Carl Karsten wrote:
  For anyone that was planning on helping setup on Thursday, there won't
  be much to do.  for 100 reasons I pushed the equipment delivery to
  Friday.  
 We don't need 100 reasons, one would be enough.
 On the opposite there were some good reasons to deliver the equipments
 earlier: 
 * Some people planned to arrive ahead to setup, test and adjust
   the setup.

It isn't mentioned in Carl's mail of the setup schedule, but previously
none of the talk rooms were reserved on Thursday and only the ballroom
was reserved on Friday and that for only 4 hours in the evening.

This setup schedule is actually an improvement worked out with the
localteam and the building management. 

-edrz
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