Bug#1055931: apt ignores bullseye-backports

[Vincent Lefevre]

Hi Nis,

On 2023-11-16 17:31:13 +0100, Nis Martensen wrote:
> On 14.11.2023 15.17, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> >> Checking for newer versions at madison and 
> >> https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
> >>
> >> Your version (6.1.55-1) of linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 appears to be out of 
> >> date.
> >> The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive:
> >>   bullseye-backports (backports-policy): 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1
> 
> > So I'm wondering where this information comes from.
> 
> I can find "6.1.55+1~bpo11+1" in https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.822
> so it must come from there.

Thanks. I had first looked at

  https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

(as output by reportbug), and it doesn't appear on this page
(I searched for both "linux" and "6.1.55"). Note that clicking
on "Click to toggle all/binary-NEW packages" does not make this
kernel appear either.

FYI, I later looked at https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.822 too
(as I could see it in the strace output), but only searched for
linux-image there, explaining that I didn't find it either (it
actually appears as linux-signed-amd64).

At the bottom of the new.html page:
"You can also look at the RFC822 version."

But why are the contents different? (linux-signed-amd64 appears
only in the RFC822 version.)

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Bug#1055931: apt ignores bullseye-backports

[Nis Martensen]

Hi Vincent,

On 14.11.2023 15.17, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>> Checking for newer versions at madison and 
>> https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
>>
>> Your version (6.1.55-1) of linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 appears to be out of 
>> date.
>> The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive:
>>   bullseye-backports (backports-policy): 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1

> So I'm wondering where this information comes from.

I can find "6.1.55+1~bpo11+1" in https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.822
so it must come from there.

You looked for the binary package in the new queue, that's why you did
not see it. However, reportbug looks for the source package
corresponding to your binary package:
https://sources.debian.org/src/reportbug/12.0.0/reportbug/checkversions.py/?hl=37#L268

Bug#1055931: apt ignores bullseye-backports

[Vincent Lefevre]

Cc'ing Reportbug Maintainers.

On 2023-11-14 14:51:18 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> Going back to what reportbug says, it still outputs
> 
> [...]
> Getting status for linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64...
> Verifying package integrity...
> Checking for newer versions at madison and 
> https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
> 
> Your version (6.1.55-1) of linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 appears to be out of 
> date.
> The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive:
>   bullseye-backports (backports-policy): 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1
> Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already addressed 
> by these releases.  Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]? 
> 
> So I've looked at https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html with Firefox
> and "linux-image" doesn't appear anywhere. So the information comes
> from madison.
> 
> $ apt-cache madison linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64
> linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 |   6.1.55-1 | https://ftp.debian.org/debian 
> stable/main amd64 Packages
> linux-signed-amd64 |   6.1.55+1 | https://ftp.debian.org/debian stable/main 
> Sources
> 
> No mentions of 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1, so this is more and more confusing.

After removing bullseye-backports from my sources lists and doing
"apt update", I've tried

  strace -o str.out -f -s 99 reportbug linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64

but in the strace output, the string "bpo11" appears in 2 places only:

[...] manpages-de (<< 4.17.0-2~bpo11+1), manpages-fr (<< 4.17.0-2~bpo11+1) [...]

(thus unrelated to this issue) and in the message

193537 write(1, "  bullseye-backports (backports-policy): 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1\n", 
58) = 58

So I'm wondering where this information comes from.

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Bug#1055931: apt ignores bullseye-backports

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2023-11-14 13:45:21 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> But "apt show -a linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64" just gives the 6.1.55-1
> version (no 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1 version), and
> 
>   apt install -t bullseye-backports linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64
> 
> also thinks that 6.1.55-1 is the version to be installed.

This may be specific to the kernel image. The following is rather
confusing:

$ apt install -s -t bullseye-backports 
linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64/bullseye-backports
NOTE: This is only a simulation!
  apt needs root privileges for real execution.
  Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
  so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Package linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 is not available, but is referred to by 
another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64-unsigned

E: Release 'bullseye-backports' for 'linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64' was not found
$ apt install -s -t bullseye-backports 
linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64-unsigned/bullseye-backports
NOTE: This is only a simulation!
  apt needs root privileges for real execution.
  Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
  so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Package linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64-unsigned is not available, but is referred 
to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64

E: Release 'bullseye-backports' for 'linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64-unsigned' was 
not found

Going back to what reportbug says, it still outputs

[...]
Getting status for linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64...
Verifying package integrity...
Checking for newer versions at madison and 
https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

Your version (6.1.55-1) of linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 appears to be out of date.
The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive:
  bullseye-backports (backports-policy): 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1
Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already addressed by 
these releases.  Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]? 

So I've looked at https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html with Firefox
and "linux-image" doesn't appear anywhere. So the information comes
from madison.

$ apt-cache madison linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64
linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 |   6.1.55-1 | https://ftp.debian.org/debian 
stable/main amd64 Packages
linux-signed-amd64 |   6.1.55+1 | https://ftp.debian.org/debian stable/main 
Sources

No mentions of 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1, so this is more and more confusing.

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Bug#1055931: apt ignores bullseye-backports

[Julian Andres Klode]

Control: reassign -1 src:linux

On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 01:45:21PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> Package: apt
> Version: 2.6.1
> Severity: important
> 
> When I want to report a bug against the Linux kernel, reportbug
> recommends to use bullseye-backports to get a more recent version
> (even though this is currently a bookworm based machine):
> 
> Your version (6.1.55-1) of linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 appears to be out of 
> date.
> The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive:
>   bullseye-backports (backports-policy): 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1
> Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already addressed 
> by these releases.  Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]? 
> 
> So I've added
> 
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
> 
> as documented in .
> 
> I did an "apt update". In particular:
> 
> [...]
> Get:19 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/main Translation-en 
> [343 kB]
> Get:20 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/main amd64 Contents 
> (deb) [1367 kB]
> Get:21 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/main all Contents 
> (deb) [4773 kB]
> Get:22 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/contrib amd64 Packages 
> [5968 B]
> Get:23 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/contrib Translation-en 
> [6004 B]
> Get:24 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/contrib amd64 Contents 
> (deb) [17.1 kB]
> Get:25 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/contrib all Contents 
> (deb) [22.2 kB]
> Get:26 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/non-free amd64 
> Packages [13.9 kB]
> Get:27 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/non-free 
> Translation-en [27.6 kB]
> Get:28 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/non-free amd64 
> Contents (deb) [10.8 kB]
> Get:29 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/non-free all Contents 
> (deb) [58.5 kB]
> [...]
> 
> But "apt show -a linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64" just gives the 6.1.55-1
> version (no 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1 version), and
> 
>   apt install -t bullseye-backports linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64
> 
> also thinks that 6.1.55-1 is the version to be installed.

There is no apt bug here, the backports have linux-image-6.1.0-0.deb11.13 
ABI. I don't know where the hook comes from so I'm just reassigning it
to src:linux.

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Bug#1055931: apt ignores bullseye-backports

[Vincent Lefevre]

Package: apt
Version: 2.6.1
Severity: important

When I want to report a bug against the Linux kernel, reportbug
recommends to use bullseye-backports to get a more recent version
(even though this is currently a bookworm based machine):

Your version (6.1.55-1) of linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 appears to be out of date.
The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive:
  bullseye-backports (backports-policy): 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1
Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already addressed by 
these releases.  Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]? 

So I've added

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free

as documented in .

I did an "apt update". In particular:

[...]
Get:19 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/main Translation-en [343 
kB]
Get:20 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/main amd64 Contents 
(deb) [1367 kB]
Get:21 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/main all Contents (deb) 
[4773 kB]
Get:22 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/contrib amd64 Packages 
[5968 B]
Get:23 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/contrib Translation-en 
[6004 B]
Get:24 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/contrib amd64 Contents 
(deb) [17.1 kB]
Get:25 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/contrib all Contents 
(deb) [22.2 kB]
Get:26 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/non-free amd64 Packages 
[13.9 kB]
Get:27 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/non-free Translation-en 
[27.6 kB]
Get:28 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/non-free amd64 Contents 
(deb) [10.8 kB]
Get:29 http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports/non-free all Contents 
(deb) [58.5 kB]
[...]

But "apt show -a linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64" just gives the 6.1.55-1
version (no 6.1.55+1~bpo11+1 version), and

  apt install -t bullseye-backports linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64

also thinks that 6.1.55-1 is the version to be installed.

-- Package-specific info:

-- apt-config dump --

APT "";
APT::Architecture "amd64";
APT::Build-Essential "";
APT::Build-Essential:: "build-essential";
APT::Install-Recommends "1";
APT::Install-Suggests "0";
APT::Sandbox "";
APT::Sandbox::User "_apt";
APT::Authentication "";
APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";
APT::NeverAutoRemove "";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^firmware-linux.*";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-firmware$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-image-[a-z0-9]*$";
APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-image-[a-z0-9]*-[a-z0-9]*$";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages "";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "linux-.*";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "kfreebsd-.*";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: "gnumach-.*";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: ".*-modules";
APT::VersionedKernelPackages:: ".*-kernel";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections "";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "metapackages";
APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: "tasks";
APT::Move-Autobit-Sections "";
APT::Move-Autobit-Sections:: "oldlibs";
APT::Update "";
APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success "";
APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success:: "test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 
0 ; apt-show-versions -i";
APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success:: "/usr/bin/test -e 
/usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.PackageKit.service && 
/usr/bin/test -S /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket && /usr/bin/gdbus call 
--system --dest org.freedesktop.PackageKit --object-path 
/org/freedesktop/PackageKit --timeout 4 --method 
org.freedesktop.PackageKit.StateHasChanged cache-update > /dev/null; /bin/echo 
> /dev/null";
APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success:: "if /usr/bin/test -w /var/cache/swcatalog -a 
-e /usr/bin/appstreamcli; then appstreamcli refresh --source=os > /dev/null || 
true; fi";
APT::Architectures "";
APT::Architectures:: "amd64";
APT::Compressor "";
APT::Compressor::. "";
APT::Compressor::.::Name ".";
APT::Compressor::.::Extension "";
APT::Compressor::.::Binary "";
APT::Compressor::.::Cost "0";
APT::Compressor::zstd "";
APT::Compressor::zstd::Name "zstd";
APT::Compressor::zstd::Extension ".zst";
APT::Compressor::zstd::Binary "zstd";
APT::Compressor::zstd::Cost "60";
APT::Compressor::zstd::CompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::zstd::CompressArg:: "-19";
APT::Compressor::zstd::UncompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::zstd::UncompressArg:: "-d";
APT::Compressor::lz4 "";
APT::Compressor::lz4::Name "lz4";
APT::Compressor::lz4::Extension ".lz4";
APT::Compressor::lz4::Binary "false";
APT::Compressor::lz4::Cost "50";
APT::Compressor::gzip "";
APT::Compressor::gzip::Name "gzip";
APT::Compressor::gzip::Extension ".gz";
APT::Compressor::gzip::Binary "gzip";
APT::Compressor::gzip::Cost "100";
APT::Compressor::gzip::CompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::gzip::CompressArg:: "-6n";
APT::Compressor::gzip::UncompressArg "";
APT::Compressor::gzip::UncompressArg:: "-d";
APT::Compressor::xz "";
APT::Compressor::xz::Name "xz";
APT::Compressor::xz::Extension ".xz";
APT::Compressor::xz::Binary "xz";
APT::Compressor::xz::Cost "200";