Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Frederik Schüler
Hi!

I already ha d deep look at the current packaging included in upstream git, 
basically the initscripts need to be rewritten as they are full of 
redhadisms, but thats'it basically. 

I think the debconf templates and the corresponding configuration parts in the 
maintainer scripts should be removed for Lenny, because I doubt we would get 
this into testing in time, lacking all translations. It's broken anyway, and 
I currently have no time to fix that due to RL work overload.

To your question, Alioth seems fine to me, but why not use oracle git, and 
make it a native package?

Best regards
Frederik Schüler

On Friday 21 November 2008 08:38:02 Jeremy Lainé wrote:
 Frederik, Joel,
 
 I have started putting together the packaging for ocfs2-tools here:
 
 https://svn.jerryweb.org/public/packages/ocfs2-tools/
 
 What would you think of applying for some space on alioth so that we can 
maintain
 ocfs2-tools collaboratively and finally upload a recent version of 
ocfs2-tools?
 
 Cheers,
 Jeremy
 
 



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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Jeremy Lainé
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Hi!

 I already ha d deep look at the current packaging included in upstream git, 
 basically the initscripts need to be rewritten as they are full of 
 redhadisms, but thats'it basically. 

As far as I can tell, the packaging in upstream git (and upstream tarballs) is a
not-quite-up-to-date copy of the Ubuntu packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.3.9. I 
disagree about
rewriting the initscripts, until now the init scripts shipped with Debian have 
always been
based on upstream with some minor Debian patches, and upstream has integrated 
all these
patches. As time is short for lenny I'd rather stick to well-tested upstream 
init scripts.

 I think the debconf templates and the corresponding configuration parts in 
 the 
 maintainer scripts should be removed for Lenny, because I doubt we would get 
 this into testing in time, lacking all translations. It's broken anyway, and 
 I currently have no time to fix that due to RL work overload.

In the Ubuntu packaging, the changes that were made were simply to update the 
default
values for timeouts. I have manually integrated these changes into all of 
Debian's
translations, so there should not be any translation issue. Are there any 
additional
changes to your knowledge?

 To your question, Alioth seems fine to me, but why not use oracle git, and 
 make it a native package?

I'd rather go the opposite way: ask upstream to drop the packaging in their git 
which is
not quite up to date, and encourage them (and Ubuntu maintainers) to contribute 
to the
packaging on alioth. Is there some cluster-related project on Alioth we can 
tack onto or
should I ask for a new project?

Cheers,
Jeremy
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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Jeremy Lainé
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 What would you think of applying for some space on alioth so that we can 
 maintain
 ocfs2-tools collaboratively and finally upload a recent version of 
 ocfs2-tools?

I have moved the packaging to the collab-maint Subversion repository:

http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/collab-maint/deb-maint/ocfs2-tools/trunk/

I pruned the debian directory from the upstream tarball to make packaging 
cleaner and
have uploaded ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1 to unstable. It will probably sit in the NEW 
queue for a
bit due to the addition of ocfs2-tools-dev.

Frederik, you are listed in the Uploaders, so we're all set up for collaborative
maintenance. What do you think about asking for this version to be allowed to 
migrate to
lenny?

Cheers,
Jeremy
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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Joel Becker
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 09:35:13AM +0100, Frederik Schüler wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I already ha d deep look at the current packaging included in upstream git, 
 basically the initscripts need to be rewritten as they are full of 
 redhadisms, but thats'it basically. 

Um, they use lsb bits, because they are portable scripts.  If
you can find something that fails on Debian, send me a note or a patch.

Joel

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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Joel Becker
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 08:38:02AM +0100, Jeremy Lainé wrote:
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 Frederik, Joel,
 
 I have started putting together the packaging for ocfs2-tools here:
 
 https://svn.jerryweb.org/public/packages/ocfs2-tools/

FYI, iceweasel reports:

--
Secure Connection Failed

svn.jerryweb.org uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is
unknown.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)
--

Hmm, I added a temporary exception, and now I just get a 404.

 What would you think of applying for some space on alioth so that we can 
 maintain
 ocfs2-tools collaboratively and finally upload a recent version of 
 ocfs2-tools?

I don't know why maintaining it upstream is a problem - I'll
happily take patches.  The nice part about upstream maintenance is that
one can build a package from the source without having to navigate other
places.  That doesn't matter for release packaging, but it does if I
want to build packages while developing.

Joel

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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Joel Becker
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 06:17:58PM +0100, Jeremy Lainé wrote:
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  What would you think of applying for some space on alioth so that we can 
  maintain
  ocfs2-tools collaboratively and finally upload a recent version of 
  ocfs2-tools?
 
 I have moved the packaging to the collab-maint Subversion repository:
 
 http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/collab-maint/deb-maint/ocfs2-tools/trunk/
 
 I pruned the debian directory from the upstream tarball to make packaging 
 cleaner and
 have uploaded ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1 to unstable. It will probably sit in the 
 NEW queue for a
 bit due to the addition of ocfs2-tools-dev.

Still don't know why an upstream debian/ tree is so frowned
upon.
I will say, I really like what /usr/share/cdbs does for
debian/rules.

Joel

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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Joel Becker
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:06:32AM +0100, Jeremy Lainé wrote:
  I already ha d deep look at the current packaging included in upstream git, 
  basically the initscripts need to be rewritten as they are full of 
  redhadisms, but thats'it basically. 
 
 As far as I can tell, the packaging in upstream git (and upstream tarballs) 
 is a
 not-quite-up-to-date copy of the Ubuntu packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.3.9. I 
 disagree about
 rewriting the initscripts, until now the init scripts shipped with Debian 
 have always been
 based on upstream with some minor Debian patches, and upstream has integrated 
 all these
 patches. As time is short for lenny I'd rather stick to well-tested upstream 
 init scripts.

Again, let me know if anything doesn't work.

  To your question, Alioth seems fine to me, but why not use oracle git, and 
  make it a native package?
 
 I'd rather go the opposite way: ask upstream to drop the packaging in their 
 git which is
 not quite up to date, and encourage them (and Ubuntu maintainers) to 
 contribute to the
 packaging on alioth. Is there some cluster-related project on Alioth we can 
 tack onto or
 should I ask for a new project?

Why can't we just make our packaging up to date?  Regarding
Alioth, what do we gain?  git is a distributed system, so it's plenty
collaborative.

Joel

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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Frederik Schüler
Hi!

no, please, no way for cdbs.

Best regards
Frederik Schüler

On Friday 21 November 2008 22:31:53 Joel Becker wrote:
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   What would you think of applying for some space on alioth so that we can 
maintain
   ocfs2-tools collaboratively and finally upload a recent version of 
ocfs2-tools?
  
  I have moved the packaging to the collab-maint Subversion repository:
  
  http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/collab-maint/deb-maint/ocfs2-tools/trunk/
  
  I pruned the debian directory from the upstream tarball to make 
packaging cleaner and
  have uploaded ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1 to unstable. It will probably sit in the 
NEW queue for a
  bit due to the addition of ocfs2-tools-dev.
 
   Still don't know why an upstream debian/ tree is so frowned
 upon.
   I will say, I really like what /usr/share/cdbs does for
 debian/rules.
 
 Joel
 
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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Jeremy Lainé
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Hi Joel!

 Still don't know why an upstream debian/ tree is so frowned
 upon.

I have no problem with upstream working on debian/ or even on with packaging 
being hosted
upstream, I went with alioth for the sake of expediency. If you want to 
collaborate you
can apply for access to the collab-maint on alioth.debian.org, or we can 
re-discuss
hosting options - no problem.

I *do* have a problem with debian/ being included in release tarballs though, 
it makes for
messy .diff.gz if for instance files get dropped or moved around from packaging 
between
revision 1.4.1-1 and 1.4.1-2. Also, at times there are minor differences 
between Ubuntu /
Debian packages, and it's a shame to have to carry that around in the .diffs.

Slightly off topic, Joel you might want to take a peek at svn-buildpackage 
(and/or
git-buildpackage) if you're not familiar with them yet, they make slapping the 
packaging
onto upstream code (and tagging package releases) a breeze.

 I will say, I really like what /usr/share/cdbs does for
 debian/rules.

I'm pretty fond of CDBS, but I know it's not universally loved. :)

Cheers,
Jeremy

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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-21 Thread Joel Becker
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:44:12PM +0100, Jeremy Lainé wrote:
 I *do* have a problem with debian/ being included in release tarballs though, 
 it makes for
 messy .diff.gz if for instance files get dropped or moved around from 
 packaging between
 revision 1.4.1-1 and 1.4.1-2. Also, at times there are minor differences 
 between Ubuntu /
 Debian packages, and it's a shame to have to carry that around in the .diffs.

I'm not sure why there are messy .diffs if we've got the master
debian/.  Are you saying that you want to tweak a problem with the 1.4.1
debian/ directory, and you're stuck with the 1.4.1 tarball as released
even if we have the fix in the upstream source?

 Slightly off topic, Joel you might want to take a peek at svn-buildpackage 
 (and/or
 git-buildpackage) if you're not familiar with them yet, they make slapping 
 the packaging
 onto upstream code (and tagging package releases) a breeze.

I will.  Thanks.

  I will say, I really like what /usr/share/cdbs does for
  debian/rules.
 
 I'm pretty fond of CDBS, but I know it's not universally loved. :)

Well, I haven't looked at the actual include hunks.  But the
debian/rules you provided looks pretty clean.  I see that fs doesn't
like it so much.

Joel

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Bug#501151: Preparing packaging for ocfs2-tools 1.4.1-1

2008-11-20 Thread Jeremy Lainé
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Frederik, Joel,

I have started putting together the packaging for ocfs2-tools here:

https://svn.jerryweb.org/public/packages/ocfs2-tools/

What would you think of applying for some space on alioth so that we can 
maintain
ocfs2-tools collaboratively and finally upload a recent version of ocfs2-tools?

Cheers,
Jeremy
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