Bug#595612: removal of ivtools

2010-09-07 Thread Torsten Werner
Hi Scott,

Am 06.09.2010 21:32, schrieb Scott Johnston:
 If there is anything I can do to help with the re-instatement of ivtools
 in the Debian distribution please let me know.

the package needs an active maintainer. It can be re-uploaded at any
time by someone who takes over maintainership or by a sponsor if the
maintainer has no upload permissions.

Cheers,
Torsten



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Bug#595612: removal of ivtools

2010-09-06 Thread Scott Johnston

Sorry to hear you've removed ivtools from the Debian distribution.

I would like to point out a few things that might make you  
reconsider.  First off, although Guenter Geiger made a request for  
someone else to adapt the package more than 8 years ago, the latest  
packages were from a 2008 release of the source (ivtools-1.2.6).   
People have been investing their time to try and keep this software up  
to date with the constantly evolving Debian guidelines and gcc  
compiler versions.  Casually tossing out it on a single request seems  
to merit a little more justification than simply the date of an intent- 
to-orphan request and a popularity metric.  If there is some  
fundamental problem with the source code or packaging that can not be  
fixed with an NMU it should be documented.


And there are users.  But if there is some minimal number of users  
below which Debian must not support a package, I would like to point  
out the historical and academic value of this package, which embodies  
John Vlissides' Unidraw framework and the InterViews toolkit from  
Stanford University.  These have inspired the design of a good number  
of intellectually derivative works such as Qt, Java Swing, and the  
Eclipse GEF framework.  And having that simple and easy-to-use binary  
copy of idraw available on a Unix distribution is somewhat akin to  
keeping ed or vi available as well.


If there is anything I can do to help with the re-instatement of  
ivtools in the Debian distribution please let me know.  I would point  
out that the latest release (ivtools-1.2.8) upgraded the source to be  
compatible with Ubuntu 9.10 and gcc-4.4.


Scott Johnston
http://www.ivtools.org






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