Processed: Re: Bug#558989: dash reverses the established logic of test -nt -ot (and maybe others)
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: severity 558989 important Bug #558989 [dash] dash reverses the established logic of test -nt -ot (and maybe others) Severity set to 'important' from 'grave' tags 558989 + wontfix Bug #558989 [dash] dash reverses the established logic of test -nt -ot (and maybe others) Added tag(s) wontfix. quit Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#558989: dash reverses the established logic of test -nt -ot (and maybe others)
severity 558989 important tags 558989 + wontfix quit On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 12:43:44PM +1030, Ron wrote: Dash should not implement -nt at all if it wants to be strict about things that aren't POSIX. If it is going to implement non standard things from other sources, then it absolutely should not be inventing entirely new behaviours for them from whole cloth, let alone completely reversing the logic of existing long established code. Hi, here's upstream's opinion on this http://www.mail-archive.com/d...@vger.kernel.org/msg00208.html I don't think we should make a Debian-specific change for that, hence I mark the bug wontfix. Thanks, Gerrit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#558989: dash reverses the established logic of test -nt -ot (and maybe others)
Package: dash Version: 0.5.5.1-3 Severity: grave Justification: doing the opposite of what people asked for could do _anything_ Dash should not implement -nt at all if it wants to be strict about things that aren't POSIX. If it is going to implement non standard things from other sources, then it absolutely should not be inventing entirely new behaviours for them from whole cloth, let alone completely reversing the logic of existing long established code. Doing that could easily introduce any of the scenarios defined for a 'critical' bug, but I don't want to get all handwavy about the severity, I just think this is an RC issue that should be fixed for squeeze (but it's not really a -policy thing else I'd have probably just made it 'serious'). $ bash $ test /bin/ls -nt no-such-file || echo oh ffs :( $ /usr/bin/test /bin/ls -nt no-such-file || echo oh ffs :( $ dash $ test /bin/ls -nt no-such-file || echo oh ffs :( oh ffs :( Now imagine that's checking something important to the integrity of the system ... Please fix this. Even if it's just to remove -nt entirely and have such scripts _obviously_ break rather than silently doing the exact opposite of what they always have in the past. People who've had systems running Debian for years deserve more from us than this. Thanks, Ron -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.31-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages dash depends on: ii debianutils 3.2.2 Miscellaneous utilities specific t hi dpkg 1.15.3.1 Debian package management system ii libc6 2.10.1-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries dash recommends no packages. dash suggests no packages. -- debconf information excluded -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
