Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-16 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi Charles,

Quoting Charles Plessy (2014-07-16 02:58:58)
 viewed from the opposite side of the chain, I have the impression that in
 most cases where I receive a report that package X does not build on
 architecture Y, it is a pure waste of time, since that package has no user
 base on that architecture.

while that package might have no user base, it might be required to build other
source packages on that architecture. You can easily check whether this is the
case by doing:

curl --silent http://bootstrap.debian.net/importance_metric_all.txt \
| awk '$1 == src:$yoursrcpkgname { print $3; }'

The number that is printed is the amount of other source packages which need
$yoursrcpkgname to be buildable so that they can be built on Debian sid amd64.
The file is regenerated daily.

So if you feel wookey becomes too eager you can tell him that not only do the
binary packages that $yoursrcpkgname builds have no users but it also is likely
not needed to build more source packages.

cheers, josch


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Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-16 Thread Vincent Bernat
 ❦ 16 juillet 2014 09:58 +0900, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org :

 Patch systems have a high importance in Debian because we accumulate patches
 that have little relevance for Upstream and the software's users.  One of the
 solution is to standardise the patch systems, but another solution is to stop
 producing patches that have no practical impact for the users.

What about patches that have a practical impact for the users, like
solving an important or a security bug?
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Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-16 Thread Mathieu Parent (Debian)
Hi,

2014-07-16 3:36 GMT+02:00 Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org:
 Hi!

[...]
 Such warning might have made sense iff:

   - the new formats had been uncontroversial,

There is no such thing as being uncontroversial in Debian. There is
always somebody nitpicking when gaining hundred features and losing
one.

That's why we have some cdbs packages, dh7, dh7.
That's why we don't require Vcs-* fields.
That's why we still have some packages using dpatch
...

Oh, and I don't talk about systemd. Did I?

Mathieu Parent


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Bug#754932: RFP: tiptop -- display hardware performance counters for Linux tasks

2014-07-16 Thread Török Edwin
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

--- Please fill out the fields below. ---

   Package name: tiptop
Version: 2.2
Upstream Author: Erven Rohou erven.ro...@inria.fr
URL: http://tiptop.gforge.inria.fr/
License: GPLv2
Description: (from the website and README)

Tiptop is a performance monitoring tool for Linux.  It provides a
dynamic real-time view of the tasks running in the system. Tiptop is
very similar to the top utility, but most of the information displayed
comes from hardware counters.

Features:
No root privilege needed
No patch to OS
No module to load
No need to instrument applications
No need to even restart applications
Any event supported by the hardware
some predefined: instructions, cycles, LLC misses (easy)
any hardware supported event (slightly harder)
Live mode and batch mode
Configure file to define counters and screens
Pretty much like top


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Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Emmanuel,

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:19:53AM +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
 
 Ok, but could you say it nicely please? I just came across this info and
 brought it on the list for discussion because it'll impact us at some
 point.
 ...

Thanks for the information.  I perceived in line with your intention.

Kind regards

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Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Wed, 16 Jul 2014, Guillem Jover wrote:
 The only reason for that warning right now is to pester people into
 either switching, which they should be doing out of their own
 volition anyway because people think the new formats are really
 superior and help them. Or so that people set it explicitly to 1.0
 just to shut up the warning, and then we have some kind of stats of
 how many people have been pestered… Which I think is the wrong way
 about trying to get people to switch.

You see it only from a negative side, sure there are a few people who
consider this message as pestering them but it really filled the role
of the missing lintian warning for all people who create source packages
from scratch and/or who take over old packages and use the lintian output
as their todo list.

Certainly that without this message the adoption rate of the new formats
would not have been so good as it has been (which despite some of the
critics, is probably one the best adoption rate for such wide scale opt-in
changes in the Debian history).

So to sum it up, I'm OK for dropping that message but only if lintian gets
the corresponding tag raised to a warning level and IMO it still makes
sense in the long term for dpkg-source to abort if debian/source/format is
missing, precisely because the historical default no longer matches
Debian's desired default.

Cheers,
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Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
On 15/07/2014 23:55, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Am 15.07.2014 23:08, schrieb Emmanuel Bourg:
 This was expected but now it's effective, Java 9 no longer supports
 source/target level 1.5:

 http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk9-dev/2014-July/000972.html

 So if you update a package and see these settings please bump them to 1.6.

 It might be interesting to add a Lintian warning when a jar with the
 class format = 49 is detected, that would mean the package was compiled
 with a target = 1.5 and will probably fail to build with Java 9.
 No. Don't do it. This is complete bullshit for Debian at this point.  We are
 trying to prepare a release, working on a possible update to Java 8, and we
 don't have the resources to work on Java 9 at this time.

 You seem to have your own agenda, but it doesn't seem to match Debian's 
 agenda.

I think that is unfair statement against Emmanuel (especially when
adding d-d  d-r to the cc list).

I sponsored a lot of packages for Emmanuel. He has been doing an
impressive work
in the Java team [1]. He has been doing most of the maintenance work in
the team over the past year and
Debian would be a better (technical) place if we had 10 clones of Emmanuel.

OpenJDK being a key package in the Java world, it is only fair for him
(to try) to be involved in its packaging
and to make sure we are as good and fast as some other distros. I think
that is his agenda.
If he is willing to work on the packaging of 9, so be it. AFAIK, he is a
volunteer and it was never on the table
to perform this work for Jessie.

By the way, I think you should relax about Emmanuel. He just has been
trying to help you with OpenJDK 8 packaging
when it was stuck.
Even if you disagree with his initial approach, he wasn't trying to
undermine your work on this package.
And please, stop using his ecj mistake to blame him. That is unfair
compared to all the work he has done.

Cheers,
Sylvestre
[1] https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=ebo...@apache.org
Btw, I wish we had to way to list all of his contributions.


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Aw: Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Steffen Möller


 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 um 09:50 Uhr
 Von: Sylvestre Ledru sylves...@debian.org
 An: Matthias Klose d...@debian.org, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org, 
 Debian Java debian-j...@lists.debian.org
 Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian 
 Release debian-rele...@lists.debian.org
 Betreff: Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

 On 15/07/2014 23:55, Matthias Klose wrote:
  Am 15.07.2014 23:08, schrieb Emmanuel Bourg:
  This was expected but now it's effective, Java 9 no longer supports
  source/target level 1.5:
 
  http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk9-dev/2014-July/000972.html
 
  So if you update a package and see these settings please bump them to 1.6.
 
  It might be interesting to add a Lintian warning when a jar with the
  class format = 49 is detected, that would mean the package was compiled
  with a target = 1.5 and will probably fail to build with Java 9.
  No. Don't do it. This is complete bullshit for Debian at this point.  We are
  trying to prepare a release, working on a possible update to Java 8, and we
  don't have the resources to work on Java 9 at this time.
 
  You seem to have your own agenda, but it doesn't seem to match Debian's 
  agenda.
 
 I think that is unfair statement against Emmanuel (especially when
 adding d-d  d-r to the cc list).

+1, shocking.

Steffen


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Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-13 13:17:24 +0200, Arno Töll wrote:
 Unfortunately it turns out, that /a lot/ of people use aptitude
 --purge-unused safe-upgrade, or the apt equivalent apt-get
 dist-upgrade --purge which causes dpkg to purge the user's
 configuration, in particular enabled modules, during the upgrade
 because apache2.2-common disappears in that step. [...]

Is there any reason why apt-get/aptitude removes the config files
just after the package is removed, and not at the end of the upgrade
process? IMHO, doing the later is safer and would solve this problem
with Apache.

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Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-14 08:53:22 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
 But I normally use apt-get --purge dist-upgrade both to upgrade
 across distros and to stay within one distro (or sid), because
 otherwise I get issues:
 
 * Running upgrade before dist-upgrade sometimes doesn't get the
   dependencies right
 
 * Running dist-upgrade without --purge will keep packages in 'rc'
   state around, which a later APT call will not even recognise;
   you need to manually dpkg --purge pkg1 pkg2 ... to get rid
   of them

I do that too. I haven't seen any official documentation saying that
this is a bad thing to do.

Purging packages in 'rc' state later is not really an option, as I
sometimes want to keep the config files of some particular packages
that have been removed... unless APT can differentiate packages that
have manually been removed and those that have automatically been
removed during a dist-upgrade.

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Bug#754947: ITP: tiptop -- performance monitoring tool for Linux

2014-07-16 Thread Tomasz Buchert
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Tomasz Buchert tomasz.buch...@inria.fr

  Package name: tiptop
  Version :  2.2
  Upstream Author :  Erven Rohou
  URL : http://tiptop.gforge.inria.fr/
  License : GPL2
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : performance monitoring tool for Linux

Tiptop is a performance monitoring tool for Linux. It provides
a dynamic real-time view of the tasks running in the system.
Tiptop is very similar to the top utility, but most of the information
displayed comes from hardware counters.

The package is quite simple, I intend to work on it alone.
There is RFP for tiptop: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-
bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754932

Cheers,
Tomasz Buchert


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say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks,

how comes that network-manager-strongswan has been dropped
from testing? This package is extremely important for road-
warrior setups using IPsec.


Regards
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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, July 16, 2014 12:17, Harald Dunkel wrote:
 how comes that network-manager-strongswan has been dropped
 from testing? This package is extremely important for road-
 warrior setups using IPsec.

You can find that out for any package on the PTS:
https://packages.qa.debian.org/n/network-manager-strongswan.html

As it turns out, this package got removed because it has an unfixed
release critical bug (which interestingly enough you yourself reported).
When this bug is fixed, the package will transition back to testing.


Cheers,
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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On 16/07/14 11:17, Harald Dunkel wrote:
 how comes that network-manager-strongswan has been dropped
 from testing?

https://packages.qa.debian.org/n/network-manager-strongswan.html says:

network-manager-strongswan (source, i386, amd64, armel, armhf, mips,
mipsel, powerpc, s390x) has new bugs!
Updating network-manager-strongswan introduces new bugs: #741415.
Not considered

That bug might seem familiar to you in particular, since it appears you
opened it :-)

If the change you proposed works correctly, an NMU seems appropriate.

S


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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Thijs,

On 07/16/14 12:35, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
 
 As it turns out, this package got removed because it has an unfixed
 release critical bug (which interestingly enough you yourself reported).
 When this bug is fixed, the package will transition back to testing.
 

Of course I know that I reported this bug (without grave).

Did you notice that the bug report also shows how to _fix_
the problem?


Regards
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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, July 16, 2014 13:05, Harald Dunkel wrote:
 On 07/16/14 12:35, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
 As it turns out, this package got removed because it has an unfixed
 release critical bug (which interestingly enough you yourself reported).
 When this bug is fixed, the package will transition back to testing.

 Of course I know that I reported this bug (without grave).

 Did you notice that the bug report also shows how to _fix_
 the problem?

It doesn't really seem relevant whether I noticed that, as I do not use
strongswan and do not have the expertise to work with this package. Have
you tried contacting the maintainer?


Cheers,
Thijs


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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Simon,

On 07/16/14 12:36, Simon McVittie wrote:
 
 If the change you proposed works correctly, an NMU seems appropriate.
 

I am using the fix in a private package since I
created the bug report. Seems to work fine (using
strongswan 5.x).

I have appended a diff to the bug report. Hope
this helps.


Regards
Harri


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Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-16 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi!

On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 11:41:25 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 On 2014-07-13 13:17:24 +0200, Arno Töll wrote:
  Unfortunately it turns out, that /a lot/ of people use aptitude
  --purge-unused safe-upgrade, or the apt equivalent apt-get
  dist-upgrade --purge which causes dpkg to purge the user's
  configuration, in particular enabled modules, during the upgrade
  because apache2.2-common disappears in that step. [...]
 
 Is there any reason why apt-get/aptitude removes the config files
 just after the package is removed, and not at the end of the upgrade
 process? IMHO, doing the later is safer and would solve this problem
 with Apache.

It just calls dpkg with --purge. Something that would also fix this
issue (among other upgrade problems) is using dpkg “transactions”:

  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579790#82

Thanks,
Guillem


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Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:26:30PM -0500, Jeff Epler wrote:
 actually used by current versions of apt. (ideally you'd just go sha256,
 but iirc it's the md5sum that is used in practice, even today.  but
 please find that thread, don't trust my summary)

- apt-get --print-uris defaults to MD5 by default as there at least were
  clients expecting exactly that. jigdo given in the bugreport leading
  to this default for the time being (#576420). If that is still the
  case, who knows? In the last iteration the thread mysteriously died
  after I mentioned that we need someone who checks… If you don't like
  the default: -o Acquire::ForceHash=hash you wanna force  Still up
  for takers of course, but I am not holding my breath…
- pdiffs index is a SHA1-only fileformat at the moment
- Description-md5 is not security related, it just needed for mapping,
  so using something stronger would be non-sense. Something weaker
  would equally work, but that might be a way to ugly transition.
- apt-get source uses MD5 at the moment in all released versions,
  I guess other clients might as well as the fieldname is super handy…
  (and for us it is also an abi-breaking change)
- the rest uses the first hash it can find out of SHA512, 256, 1 and
  MD5 (checking in the order given here, not the order presented in the
  file). Check for yourself if you really care at which point which one
  was added… –– modulo all the bugs included of course.

The later two change in the yet-to-be finished version currently
residing in experimental in so far as that 'source' stops relying on the
Files field alone and that certain cases in the code will do an
all-known hashes comparison instead of best-only (it's difficult to
explain which ones these are without expecting a good understanding of
how files are acquired by apt, so I go with a each time we can do it
for free which is surprisingly often 'thanks' to our architecture).


Best regards

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Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 06:25:47PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
 Description-md5 794.3 KiB   11.9%

Needed to provide a mapping as versions change a lot more often than
descriptions do; also, historically, Translation-* were outside of the
control of ftpmasters (at least, that is what history digging told me).
It is also relatively new in the Packages file, which leads me to:

With a slight change in semantic we could drop the field from the
Packages file again anyhow: At the moment it is the MD5sum of the long
description. If it isn't present the clients are expected to calculate
it for themselves (well, this was required to work with Translation-*
before we moved long descriptions to Translation-en, so very new clients
might not know about that). So if we change this to MD5sum of whatever
is in the description field (short or long), we could drop it from the
Packages file and clients will again calculate this themselves to look
stuff up with it in the Translation files (where this field came from).

I haven't tested, but that should work without any change in apt (okay,
apt-ftparchive needs to be patched), so first stop for someone wanting
to drive this is probably dak - takers? Other servers and maybe clients
need to be adapted, but that could be done rather uncoordinated as there
is usually just one server creating both Packages and Translation-*
files, so it will have the same semantic interpretation and clients
either take what they get or already implicitely have the whatever is
in the field semantic.

(sidenote: see my other mail for the non-existent security implications
of using md5 here if you care)


 Description 463.4 KiB7.0%

ftpmaster's actually wanted to drop that in their final implementation
of the long description splitout. We got the short description back as
it wasn't part of the initial plan and clients didn't liked that (=
apt-cache search would segfault for example), beside that I prefer to
have at least a short description around in any case. I think if we drop
one of them, it should be the -md5 field as it isn't as compressible as
human-readable text… (not to mention quite useless for a human).


 SHA256 1463.8 KiB   22.0%
 SHA1938.9 KiB   14.1%
 MD5sum  752.4 KiB   11.3%

I *guess* the most painless drop would be SHA1. Entirely dropping it
from the archive means changing the pdiff infrastructure though.
Someone ought to check that claim…

Dropping MD5 will break some scripts parsing apt output. I personally
hate breaking users, so any takers to check/fix that at least Debian
tools do not break? Entirely dropping would be easy after this is done
(modulo Description-md5 of course, but see there).

Adding/Changing to SHA512 in the indexes is probably close to useless,
in the Release file the benefit is probably not worthwhile, but it is
here if need would arise. I have some hope that with apt/experimental we
will be able to add new hashsums with less pain (aka: no abibreak), too,
but that just as a sidenote.


 [other fields - present hopefully only for comparison proposes]

For the rest it is hopefully clear why we can't drop them, even though
I kinda like the idea of dropping dependencies… would make installing
stuff so much simpler… ;)


 Format changes ala base-whatever, \0, …

Changing the format is _*EXTREMELY*_ painful. It is also nice to have
a textfile you can work with easily… If you want to improve, this
improvement should be factored into a compression algorithm so that not
every parser in the universe needs to be rewritten… (one of apts
testcases uses 'rev' as a compression algorithm.  You just need to set
some options, advertise the availability in the Release file and you are
good to go…)


Best regards

David Kalnischkies


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Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:36:32AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 On 2014-07-14 08:53:22 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
  But I normally use apt-get --purge dist-upgrade both to upgrade
  across distros and to stay within one distro (or sid), because
  otherwise I get issues:
  
  * Running upgrade before dist-upgrade sometimes doesn't get the
dependencies right

Revolutionary idea: Report a bug, so that it can be worked out as this
is how thousands of users who are capable of reading release notes will
upgrade and you don't want them to run into the same problems you ran
into, do you? Bonuspoints if you can fix it on way or the other, too.


  * Running dist-upgrade without --purge will keep packages in 'rc'
state around, which a later APT call will not even recognise;
you need to manually dpkg --purge pkg1 pkg2 ... to get rid
of them

Looks like your upgrade process isn't working as you expect, as you are
still stuck with oldoldstable…


 I do that too. I haven't seen any official documentation saying that
 this is a bad thing to do.

aptitude actively warns against it as highlighted in this thread.
Official documentation also doesn't say that running 'rm -rf
--no-preserve-root /' is a bad thing, but you seem to not run it anyway.
In fact, official documentation says exactly how you should perform an
upgrade, so it says you at least what is a good thing and you can
predict from that that other ways may be less good.


 Purging packages in 'rc' state later is not really an option, as I
 sometimes want to keep the config files of some particular packages
 that have been removed... unless APT can differentiate packages that
 have manually been removed and those that have automatically been
 removed during a dist-upgrade.

I don't understand. apt isn't going on a configuration file killing
spree if you don't tell it to do that (and I am not sure how I would
tell it to do that even if I wanted it…), but well, no, there is no
difference between a package being removed with 'remove' and a package
being removed thanks to dependencies (like Conflicts) as this is rather
arbitrary difference. Installing a different MTA is probably as much
a sentient decision as removing an MTA - and you have agreed to all
these actions, so they have your official blessing…

apt-get btw doesn't do an automatic remove in dist-upgrade by default,
so none of the removes you see are in fact any more automatic than the
installation of new packages - it is simply needed and part of the job
description of a package manager. We have a apt-get autoremove for
removing packages apt things might not be needed anymore. aptitude does
run it by default.


Best regards

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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Riku Voipio
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 01:05:26PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
 Hi Thijs,
 
 On 07/16/14 12:35, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
  As it turns out, this package got removed because it has an unfixed
  release critical bug (which interestingly enough you yourself reported).
  When this bug is fixed, the package will transition back to testing.

 Of course I know that I reported this bug (without grave).
 
 Did you notice that the bug report also shows how to _fix_
 the problem?

This a side-effect from Debian's policy that discourages fixing bugs in
other maintainers packages via NMUs. Somehow, it is felt better to
remove packages from testing than possibly offending the maintainer with
an unwarranted NMU.

Since you seem to know the software well, and it is important for you,
perhaps you can take over maintainence of the package? The current maintainer
doesn't seem to be active (no upload since 2012..). Alternatively the
package could be maintained by the strongswan team?

Riku


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Re: [Pkg-swan-devel] say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Romain Francoise
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 03:40:13PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
 Since you seem to know the software well, and it is important for you,
 perhaps you can take over maintainence of the package? The current
 maintainer doesn't seem to be active (no upload since 2012..).
 Alternatively the package could be maintained by the strongswan team?

The strongswan team appears to have only two active members at the
moment, Yves-Alexis and I, and I have no interest in maintaining
network-manager-strongswan as I don't use network-manager myself.

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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Riku,

On Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014, Riku Voipio wrote:
 This a side-effect from Debian's policy that discourages fixing bugs in
 other maintainers packages via NMUs. Somehow, it is felt better to
 remove packages from testing than possibly offending the maintainer with
 an unwarranted NMU.

Huh, as I see it, this has changed and a.) NMUs to fix RC bugs are generally 
very much encouraged and b.) NMUs to fix other bugs are also perceived much 
better nowadays than in some old days.

Especially if the NMU is properly done (eg documented in the BTS, uploaded to 
DELAYED-foo, etc) I've hardly seen any complaints in recent years.


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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/16/14 15:17, Holger Levsen wrote:
 
 Especially if the NMU is properly done (eg documented in the BTS, uploaded to 
 DELAYED-foo, etc) I've hardly seen any complaints in recent years.
 

Surely I could have done better in providing a clean
fix to #741415, making it more easy for the Debian folks
to create an NMU. Sorry. I have included a real patch
in the bug report today.

I also tried to set the patch tag, but its not clear if
this succeeded.


Hope this helps
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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Riku, Holger,

Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org (2014-07-16):
 On Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014, Riku Voipio wrote:
  This a side-effect from Debian's policy that discourages fixing bugs in
  other maintainers packages via NMUs. Somehow, it is felt better to
  remove packages from testing than possibly offending the maintainer with
  an unwarranted NMU.
 
 Huh, as I see it, this has changed and a.) NMUs to fix RC bugs are generally 
 very much encouraged and b.) NMUs to fix other bugs are also perceived much 
 better nowadays than in some old days.
 
 Especially if the NMU is properly done (eg documented in the BTS, uploaded to 
 DELAYED-foo, etc) I've hardly seen any complaints in recent years.

I'd like to echo Holger's opinion. Back in ~2005 when I first started
contributing, it seemed (at least from a newcomer point of view) that
package ownership was a very important concept. Nowadays it seems
(almost?) everybody loves getting fixes in ones packages.

Part of the idea of getting packages removed early is trying to avoid
keeping cruft in testing, but also getting users to notice early when
packages aren't in shape, which can trigger their getting interested
in contributing (be it in one-shot or mid/long-term modes).

Mraw,
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Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 02:23:34PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote:
 With a slight change in semantic we could drop the field from the
 Packages file again anyhow: At the moment it is the MD5sum of the long
 description. If it isn't present the clients are expected to calculate
 it for themselves (well, this was required to work with Translation-*
 before we moved long descriptions to Translation-en, so very new clients
 might not know about that). So if we change this to MD5sum of whatever
 is in the description field (short or long), we could drop it from the
 Packages file and clients will again calculate this themselves to look
 stuff up with it in the Translation files (where this field came from).

FTR: This has an obvious sideeffect though: If (lets say) foo/sid has
feature x and advertises it in the long description (but short didn't
change), while foo/stable didn't have it, it is undefined which
description will be shown, it could be any – but it will be only one,
the other is 'discarded' as duplicate.

Never happens with stable/single archives of course which I was thinking
of, but in sid you would see it relatively often. Multiply this with
'outdated' translations still being shown as current. (Did I mention
that I dislike feature lists in descriptions as they are always out of
date even without that?)

You could mix and match it of course, like dropping it for stable as
long descriptions aren't going to change there, so that short would be
identifier enough, but well…


Best regards

David Kalnischkies


P.S.: version number doesn't work here nicely, as experimental/security
do not have translated descriptions, but can piggyback on them this way.
Which is the historical reason for this alltogether, as they were first
not in the archive and then just file imports (which they still might or
might not be, I have no idea – and my last speculation in a train ended
in the previous mail - I blame the broken air condition…)


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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/16/2014 10:06 PM, Harald Dunkel wrote:
 On 07/16/14 15:17, Holger Levsen wrote:

 Especially if the NMU is properly done (eg documented in the BTS, uploaded 
 to 
 DELAYED-foo, etc) I've hardly seen any complaints in recent years.

 
 Surely I could have done better in providing a clean
 fix to #741415, making it more easy for the Debian folks
 to create an NMU. Sorry. I have included a real patch
 in the bug report today.
 
 I also tried to set the patch tag, but its not clear if
 this succeeded.
 
 
 Hope this helps
 Harri

Hi,

To try to kill your frustration, I have sponsored the upload of your fix
to the delayed/10 queue. If everything goes well, then in 15 days,
network-manager-strongswan will be back in Jessie.

BTW, it feels weird that the package build-depends on debhelper when it
really is using CDBS. The debian/copyright is also quite wrong, as it
doesn't include the copyright notice for the GPL v2 (and I believe
that's mandatory, right?). Not commenting on the fact that it's still
using the format 1.0 without debian/source/format file, etc. In other
words, I agree that this package is in the need for a bit more care.

I hope this helps,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)


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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-07-16, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
 BTW, it feels weird that the package build-depends on debhelper when it
 really is using CDBS. The debian/copyright is also quite wrong, as it

If you use cdbs' debhelper module (which runs the various dh_foo
commands), you need to ensure debhelper is available.

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Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi Jakub,

On Mon, Jul 14, 2014, at 18:25, Jakub Wilk wrote:
 Food for thought:
 Which fields take up most space in Packages.xz[0]?

I am still lost - what problem are we trying to solve here?
Could we at least define it to see if the problem exists?

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Re: libjpeg-turbo transition

2014-07-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi Mike

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014, at 09:33, Mike Gabriel wrote:
   Please also consider filing a
   transition bug to help us (the release team) get an overview of the
   affected packages at your earliest convenience.
 
  If someone else could take this over before August, that will be much
  appreciated. I won't be able to make it before then...
 
  I can take care of those things about the releases. I can also help with
  the packages, merging the work already done in Ubuntu into git, etc.
 
 Great! Go ahead then. I will join in again when I am back from VAC  
 (2nd Aug 2014).

Done.

Feel free to discuss the transition plan in #754988.

I will be working on updated libjpeg-turbo packages next week.

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Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org writes:
 On Mon, Jul 14, 2014, at 18:25, Jakub Wilk wrote:

 Food for thought:
 Which fields take up most space in Packages.xz[0]?

 I am still lost - what problem are we trying to solve here?
 Could we at least define it to see if the problem exists?

I'm fairly sure Jakub's message was in response to the recent discussion
about small Node.js packages and the frequent complaints that we should
not introduce small packages into the archive because it bloats our
metadata.

Reducing the size of Packages.xz by 11% or 22% would leave room for quite
a lot of small packages while not making the problem any worse than it is
today.

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Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-16 Thread Bálint Réczey
2014-07-15 21:39 GMT+02:00 Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org:
 On 2014-07-15 16:00, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

 Martin Zobel-Helas dixit:

 Furthermore, we will change the people.debian.org web-service such that
 only HTTPS connections will be supported (unencrypted requests will be
 redirected).

 […]

 Take it as a heads-up to maybe move stuff elsewhere, if it needs http
 (e.g. APT repos work well via http since they use PGP for signatures).

 Actually, this will break most DDs’ APT repositories because
 apt-transport-https is usually not installed.


 Pointing machines to a non-mirrored SPoF running on donated project
 resources was bound to be not such a great idea anyway.
Which place would be better for hosting DD's APT repositories? I had
the impression that p.d.o were the usual place for them and it served
quite well.
I would also be interested in keeping plain HTTP to not break
repositories (including mine :-)).

Somehow Steve's question regarding the rationale behind disabling HTTP
got cut out from email responses so let me raise it again:
Why is it important to disable HTTP?
Could it be kept enabled for APT repositories following some special
directory structure like http://p.d.o/~user/ppa/* ?

2014-07-14 0:19 GMT+02:00 Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org:
 Hi Martin,

 On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:13:10PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
 Furthermore, we will change the people.debian.org web-service such that
 only HTTPS connections will be supported (unencrypted requests will be
 redirected).

 Could you elaborate on why people.d.o will enforce https?  If http
 connections are still allowed, this doesn't provide any protection from a
 MITM attack for most users; and the contents of people.d.o are not generally
 security sensitive.  Is this part of a broader effort by DSA to increase use
 of https by default as a deterrent to large-scale traffic sniffing?


Cheers,
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Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014, at 19:28, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org writes:
  On Mon, Jul 14, 2014, at 18:25, Jakub Wilk wrote:
 
  Food for thought:
  Which fields take up most space in Packages.xz[0]?
 
  I am still lost - what problem are we trying to solve here?
  Could we at least define it to see if the problem exists?
 
 I'm fairly sure Jakub's message was in response to the recent discussion
 about small Node.js packages and the frequent complaints that we should
 not introduce small packages into the archive because it bloats our
 metadata.
 
 Reducing the size of Packages.xz by 11% or 22% would leave room for quite
 a lot of small packages while not making the problem any worse than it is
 today.

Ok, that makes much more sense now. Still is the main problem the
download
size or the size on the disk (I can guess that it can be a problem on
embedded
archs). Or both?

Dropping md5+sha1 or even introducing sha-224 instead of sha-256 would
help
in this case.

Having the fallback mechanism leaves open door for stripping+downgrade
attacks
anyway.

Switching to an optimized binary format isn't an option? But I guess it
won't
be probably that much better than a good compression algorithm.

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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-16 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 16/07/14 03:06, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
 I didn't see this yet in the thread, so:
 https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/libressls_prng_is_unsafe_on_linux

What's most interesting is that someone spent such effort to look for
this;  that there are so many eyes now on both the original OpenSSL and
the new LibreSSL code.  Both projects ought to benefit from this.

This was a real, but totally contrived issue with many preconditions:

* initial 'grandparent' process initialises LibreSSL's PRNG, then forks
* first-forked process does not use the PRNG yet, but forks again
* grandparent uses the PRNG for things and then exits, freeing up the
pid to be re-used
* second-forked 'grandchild' process might coincidentally get the same
pid as its grandparent
* grandchild uses the PRNG for things;  LibreSSL would not realise it
has forked if the pid is the same, so does not reseed - PRNG output
would be repeated from what the grandparent got before it exited -
possibly having security impact


The other major concern was about scary entropy-gathering code,
implemented in LibreSSL Portable for Linux as a last resort for when
/dev/urandom can't be read.  I agree that it's too risky, or:  too
difficult to prove safe and robust in any conceivable situation.
Debian's major OpenSSL bug was able to happen undetected for a while out
of similar circumstances.

A compile-time ifdef already allows to disable this fallback code and
raise SIGKILL instead, crashing the calling process.  As part of the
LibreSSL port to GNU/kFreeBSD and Hurd I would actually have asked that
we do this anyway in Debian, at least for those platforms.

It seems extreme, but the point is that something must be wrong on the
system if we get to the fallback code - /dev/urandom missing from a
chroot, or fd's exhausted, and the kernel not having a reliable sysctl
interface like OpenBSD's to get random bytes in the first place.

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Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Thomas Goirand 

 On 07/15/2014 09:42 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
  I am not a big fan of the 3.0 (quilt) format because it imposes a patch 
  system.
  In particular, this format does not make much sense when managing the source
  package with Git.
 
 I'm not sure I'm following you. I do use git for packaging, and I have
 no problem at all with format 3.0 (quilt). I was resisting to progress
 and reluctant to get out of my comfort zone at first, but now I like it.
 What is it that bothers/annoy you exactly?

I can't speak for Plessy, but the entire concept of using a different,
much more limited patch system on top of git is just.. weird.  It makes
absolutely no sense to dumb down all the rich metadata you have in your
git repository to something that's possible to express using quilt.

It's busywork that has very little value for anybody and a
not-insignificant cost.

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Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:

 I can't speak for Plessy, but the entire concept of using a different,
 much more limited patch system on top of git is just.. weird.  It makes
 absolutely no sense to dumb down all the rich metadata you have in your
 git repository to something that's possible to express using quilt.

 It's busywork that has very little value for anybody and a
 not-insignificant cost.

I used to feel this way, but have been slowly converting my own packages
over to use gbp pq.

The thing that made me change my mind was that I increasingly want to
share the patches, as clearly-defined, separate, upstreamable units, with
packages for other distributions and with upstream.

While it's possible to maintain artifacts in Git as used normally that
accomplish that end (such as by maintaining multiple topic branches), it's
actually quite complex and irritating, and those artifacts aren't then
exposed in the packaging system, and hence aren't readily available in
patch-tracker (when it's working).  I'm uninterested in quilt per se, and
am happy not to have to use it any longer, but the debian/patches *format*
is very nice for this purpose.  It exposes, as a packaging artifact,
high-quality, separated patches that can be considered and upstreamed
individually.  And now that there are good tools for managing those
artifacts without giving up the general usability of Git, I've been
convinced it's worth the additional effort.

It's still more work than just merging Git branches and using
single-debian-patch, so I'm not sure if I'll ever get to the point where I
do this with all of my packages.  But it has more merits than I saw
initially.

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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes:

 What's most interesting is that someone spent such effort to look for
 this; that there are so many eyes now on both the original OpenSSL and
 the new LibreSSL code.  Both projects ought to benefit from this.

Yes.

 This was a real, but totally contrived issue with many preconditions:

 * initial 'grandparent' process initialises LibreSSL's PRNG, then forks
 * first-forked process does not use the PRNG yet, but forks again
 * grandparent uses the PRNG for things and then exits, freeing up the
 pid to be re-used
 * second-forked 'grandchild' process might coincidentally get the same
 pid as its grandparent
 * grandchild uses the PRNG for things;  LibreSSL would not realise it
 has forked if the pid is the same, so does not reseed - PRNG output
 would be repeated from what the grandparent got before it exited -
 possibly having security impact

While in general I agree with you and other analysts that this bug is very
difficult to exploit, it's worth mentioning here that attacking binaries
by controlling PID numbers is a known attack with known proofs of concept.
If you have local access to the same system, you can force children to
have predictable PIDs with some degree of success by quickly forking while
doing something that delays the process whose child PID you want to
control.  There has been some talk of implementing PID randomization
precisely to make this attack harder.

 The other major concern was about scary entropy-gathering code,
 implemented in LibreSSL Portable for Linux as a last resort for when
 /dev/urandom can't be read.  I agree that it's too risky, or:  too
 difficult to prove safe and robust in any conceivable situation.
 Debian's major OpenSSL bug was able to happen undetected for a while out
 of similar circumstances.

 A compile-time ifdef already allows to disable this fallback code and
 raise SIGKILL instead, crashing the calling process.  As part of the
 LibreSSL port to GNU/kFreeBSD and Hurd I would actually have asked that
 we do this anyway in Debian, at least for those platforms.

 It seems extreme, but the point is that something must be wrong on the
 system if we get to the fallback code - /dev/urandom missing from a
 chroot, or fd's exhausted, and the kernel not having a reliable sysctl
 interface like OpenBSD's to get random bytes in the first place.

It would be nice to have a reliable kernel interface for getting
randomness rather than relying on proper chroot configuration.  I'm not
sure sysctl should be that mechanism, but I'm quite sympathetic to the
LibreSSL developers here.  Relying on a device being present in a chroot
seems rather dubious.

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Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 19:50 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:
 2014-07-15 21:39 GMT+02:00 Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org:
  On 2014-07-15 16:00, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
 
  Martin Zobel-Helas dixit:
 
  Furthermore, we will change the people.debian.org web-service such that
  only HTTPS connections will be supported (unencrypted requests will be
  redirected).
 
  […]
 
  Take it as a heads-up to maybe move stuff elsewhere, if it needs http
  (e.g. APT repos work well via http since they use PGP for signatures).
 
  Actually, this will break most DDs’ APT repositories because
  apt-transport-https is usually not installed.
 
 
  Pointing machines to a non-mirrored SPoF running on donated project
  resources was bound to be not such a great idea anyway.
 Which place would be better for hosting DD's APT repositories? I had
 the impression that p.d.o were the usual place for them and it served
 quite well.
 I would also be interested in keeping plain HTTP to not break
 repositories (including mine :-)).

I would have thought it was possible to configure this redirection to be
conditional on the User-Agent string.

But also, perhaps apt should start recommending apt-transport-https.

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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 12:47 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes:
[...]
  It seems extreme, but the point is that something must be wrong on the
  system if we get to the fallback code - /dev/urandom missing from a
  chroot, or fd's exhausted, and the kernel not having a reliable sysctl
  interface like OpenBSD's to get random bytes in the first place.
 
 It would be nice to have a reliable kernel interface for getting
 randomness rather than relying on proper chroot configuration.

There is such an interface.  It happens to be a char device.  Expecting
administrators to create /dev/urandom in a chroot is no more
unreasonable than expecting them to create /dev/null or /dev/zero.

 I'm not
 sure sysctl should be that mechanism, but I'm quite sympathetic to the
 LibreSSL developers here.  Relying on a device being present in a chroot
 seems rather dubious.

Less so than blundering on without entropy.

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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-16 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi!

On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 19:54:38 +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
 The other major concern was about scary entropy-gathering code,
 implemented in LibreSSL Portable for Linux as a last resort for when
 /dev/urandom can't be read.  I agree that it's too risky, or:  too
 difficult to prove safe and robust in any conceivable situation.
 Debian's major OpenSSL bug was able to happen undetected for a while out
 of similar circumstances.
 
 A compile-time ifdef already allows to disable this fallback code and
 raise SIGKILL instead, crashing the calling process.  As part of the
 LibreSSL port to GNU/kFreeBSD and Hurd I would actually have asked that
 we do this anyway in Debian, at least for those platforms.

kFreeBSD does have a supported sysctl for this: CTL_KERN KERN_ARND.
(As does NetBSD which has two, KERN_URND and KERN_ARND.)

Thanks,
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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
 On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 12:47 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:

 It would be nice to have a reliable kernel interface for getting
 randomness rather than relying on proper chroot configuration.

 There is such an interface.  It happens to be a char device.  Expecting
 administrators to create /dev/urandom in a chroot is no more
 unreasonable than expecting them to create /dev/null or /dev/zero.

I'm not a big fan of that either.  :)  Also, I think it's relatively rare
for a library to require those devices exist for secure behavior, although
perhaps I'm just not knowledgable in this area.

 I'm not sure sysctl should be that mechanism, but I'm quite sympathetic
 to the LibreSSL developers here.  Relying on a device being present in
 a chroot seems rather dubious.

 Less so than blundering on without entropy.

Oh, certainly.  I'm in favor of aborting in libssl if /dev/urandom isn't
available.  But it bothers me that one could get to that point.  It seems
like an easy mistake for someone to make, and it seems somehow unclean to
require access to a char device for randomness.

I'm sure I'll get over it, but I do agree with the feeling that a lot more
can go wrong when trying to open a character device than with some of the
other approaches suggested.

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Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Miguel Landaeta
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 09:50:46AM +0200, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
 
 I think that is unfair statement against Emmanuel (especially when
 adding d-d  d-r to the cc list).

Totally agree with Sylvestre on this.
I also have sponsored many packages for Emmanuel in the Java team.

Frankly, I don't get the hostility level reached with this OpenJDK
packaging contribution attempt.

It's totally normal to have technical disagreements, especially on a
non-trivial packages like that one. What I really dislike is to
see epithets like bullshit or own agenda in a technical
discussion.

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Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Banck

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 05:32:32PM -0300, Miguel Landaeta wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 09:50:46AM +0200, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
  
  I think that is unfair statement against Emmanuel (especially when
  adding d-d  d-r to the cc list).
 
 Totally agree with Sylvestre on this.
 I also have sponsored many packages for Emmanuel in the Java team.
 
 Frankly, I don't get the hostility level reached with this OpenJDK
 packaging contribution attempt.

I think it is just because Germany became football/soccer world
champion recently and Matthias hates football, so he is a bit grumpy
right now.

At least, that's my educated guess.


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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-16 Thread Steven Chamberlain
(This may seem a little off-topic for the ITP but please bear with me...)

On 16/07/14 21:13, Guillem Jover wrote:
 kFreeBSD does have a supported sysctl for this: CTL_KERN KERN_ARND.
 (As does NetBSD which has two, KERN_URND and KERN_ARND.)

Actually yes, we would certainly want to use that.  But is there any
conceivable way it could fail?  (sysctl calls can return an error code).
 What could we do then?

We'd need to figure this out if we want the prospective libressl package
to build on GNU/kFreeBSD on Hurd.  Currently it won't build, because it
needs either a kernel-specific getentropy implementation, or arc4random.

libbsd's arc4random.c, I'm guessing was based on older OpenSSH Portable
sources.  If reading /dev/urandom fails, it uses only gettimeofday,
getpid, and uninitialised bytes from the stack (as a seed to the PRNG).

LibreSSL Portable on Linux has the new, scary fallback mechanism
instead, more comprehensive, but I honestly don't like that approach.
It's too difficult to estimate how much entropy it could really gather,
or potential failure cases.  And we wouldn't even know when the fallback
was being used.

Native OpenBSD would actually raise SIGKILL if their sysctl fails.
(Their cvsweb is down - quoting inline from arc4random.c instead) :

 _rs_stir(void)
   [...]
   if (getentropy(rnd, sizeof rnd) == -1)
   raise(SIGKILL);

libevent's arc4stir is different again;  it's defined to return an int,
with -1 indicating a failure of all attempts to seed:
* from /dev/urandom
* from /proc/sys/kernel/random/uuid
* using a kernel-specific sysctl

These arc4random implementations also differ in which stream cipher they
use also (RC4 originally, ChaCha20 in newer OpenBSD code).

As a result of all this mess, I think we should be looking to converge
on a single arc4random implementation, in a place such as libbsd, but
make sure it is up to the task first.

If arc4random is available and LDFLAGS include -lbsd, LibreSSL Portable
will actually use it instead of the bundled implementation.  I'm
guessing OpenSSH Portable would do this too (I can see it being tested
for by ./configure in the buildd log).

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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-16 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Oh, and note that OpenSSH Portable uses RAND_bytes from libssl to seed
its arc4random implementation.

So AFAICT if you were to link OpenSSH Portable against LibreSSL
Portable, it would get really crazy:

/dev/urandom or sysctl or scary fallback -
LibreSSL Portable getentropy -
LibreSSL Portable arc4random.c (ChaCha-20) -
LibreSSL RAND_bytes -
OpenSSH Portable arc4random.c (ChaCha-20) -
OpenSSH

with the stream cipher, seeding and stirring all happening twice.

So I really like the idea of both getting an arc4random implementation
from one place, such as libbsd.

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Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen

Hi all,

We're now at the point where we want to flip the default init system for
Jessie on Linux. A lot of systems have already switched over to systemd
as their init system [0] and the package received a fair amount of
testing and integration work over the last couple of months. This makes
us pretty confident that not too much will break when we flip the
default. To ensure we have enough time to fix any of the rarer problems
people are likely to encounter, we should proceed with the switch as
soon as possible.

The sysvinit package in wheezy is marked as an essential package. Simply
removing the Essential flag from the sysvinit package and adding it to
the systemd-sysv package is not sufficient if we want to make the switch
within one release cycle.

Thankfully, Steve Langasek already did the groundwork to make the switch
within one release cycle possible. The contents of the sysvinit package
were moved into a new sysvinit-core package and the sysvinit package was
changed to simply become a meta package depending on an ORed list of
alternative init systems [1]. Switching the default would be as simple
as changing the order of the dependencies and adjusting the priorities
of affected packages.

Unfortunately this approach has some downsides. Most importantly it
treats new installations the same as upgrades as it switches all systems
to systemd forcefully removing the /sbin/init binary provided by
sysvinit along with it. In case of an upgrade we want to provide
additional safety measures though.

So we are proposing the following scheme:

a/ Upload a new init package. This is a new, essential package that
will replace sysvinit as the package that ensures your system has an
init system. We want to build this binary package from a package which
is not tied to an actual init system, so we chose the
init-system-helpers source package. Patch for init-system-helpers is
available at [2].

b/ Demote sysvinit to Priority: optional and install an extra copy of
the sysvinit binary into /lib/sysvinit/ so you can recover if your
system fails to boot with systemd. This can be achieved by booting with
init=/lib/sysvinit/init on the kernel command line. Patch for sysvinit
is available at [3].

c/ Upload a new version of the init package which does the actual switch
and changes the order via Pre-Depends: systemd-sysv |
sysvinit-core. Diff[4]

d/ Adjust the priorities of systemd and systemd-sysv.

Assuming there are no major objections to this approach, we are going to
start with this process next week.

New installations
=
The new init package will ensure that systemd-sysv is installed as
default init on Linux and by demoting the priority of sysvinit and
sysvinit-core to optional those packages will not be installed anymore.

Dist upgrades
=
On upgrades, the old, essential sysvinit package will be replaced by the
new, non-essential sysvinit package which pulls in the new init
package which in turn makes sure systemd-sysv is installed.

The sysvinit package in Jessie will be kept as a transitional and
recovery package which facilitates a smooth upgrade. It provides a
safety net which will let you boot with sysvinit via the aforementioned
kernel command line argument in case your system fails to boot with
systemd. We also have a patch for grub [5] which will make this even
more straightforward. The SysV compat tools provided by systemd-sysv
(/sbin/reboot,runlevel,telinit,etc) are able to talk to sysvinit as PID
1, making this a seamless experience.

Opting out of the switch

If users want to opt out of the switch, they can install the
sysvinit-core package which will satisfy the dependency of the init
package.

[0]: https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=systemd
[1]: https://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sysvinit/news/20131227T39Z.html
[2]: 
http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/init-system-helper-step1.diff
[3]: http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/sysvinit.diff
[4]: 
http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/init-system-helper-step2.diff
[5]: http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/grub2.diff

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Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi,

Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:
 So we are proposing the following scheme:

 a/ Upload a new init package. This is a new, essential package that
 will replace sysvinit as the package that ensures your system has an
 init system. We want to build this binary package from a package which
 is not tied to an actual init system, so we chose the
 init-system-helpers source package. Patch for init-system-helpers is
 available at [2].

Would it be possible to have init not be essential while we are
already changing things? There are valid use cases for init-less
systems, for example chroot environments.

invoke-rc.d and update-rc.d would probably still have to be in a
essential package, but not an entire init system.

 b/ Demote sysvinit to Priority: optional and install an extra copy of
 the sysvinit binary into /lib/sysvinit/ so you can recover if your
 system fails to boot with systemd. This can be achieved by booting with
 init=/lib/sysvinit/init on the kernel command line. Patch for sysvinit
 is available at [3].

On kfreebsd, init would then depend on an optional package as we don't
support arch-specific priorities. That is (IIRC) a policy violation, but
do any practical problems arise from this?

 c/ Upload a new version of the init package which does the actual switch
 and changes the order via Pre-Depends: systemd-sysv |
 sysvinit-core. Diff[4]

Why do a, and c, in two steps?

 d/ Adjust the priorities of systemd and systemd-sysv.

Ansgar


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Re: NMUing generally

2014-07-16 Thread Wookey
+++ Holger Levsen [2014-07-16 15:17 +0200]:
 Hi Riku,
 
 On Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014, Riku Voipio wrote:
  This a side-effect from Debian's policy that discourages fixing bugs in
  other maintainers packages via NMUs. Somehow, it is felt better to
  remove packages from testing than possibly offending the maintainer with
  an unwarranted NMU.
 
 Huh, as I see it, this has changed and a.) NMUs to fix RC bugs are generally 
 very much encouraged and b.) NMUs to fix other bugs are also perceived much 
 better nowadays than in some old days.
 
 Especially if the NMU is properly done (eg documented in the BTS, uploaded to 
 DELAYED-foo, etc) I've hardly seen any complaints in recent years.

Mostly. I've done a pile recently (40+) (largely autoconf-update bugs)
and only had one instance of outright hostility, a few queries, a few
pre-empting uploads by the maintainer, and a couple of 'thanks, please
upload ASAP'. The majority just went through with no explicit
response. That was almost all packages that have had a bug filed for
between 5 years and a couple of months, where an NMU seems
unarguable. So that does mean we are down to less than 2% obnoxious
maintainers :-)

I'm now getting on to ones where I file a new NMU bug along with the
delayed upload, and that feels a bit 'pushier'. We'll see how that
goes. I still feel like I need to make excuses for not filing a bug,
waiting a couple of weeks and _then_ doing an NMU, which of course is
a great way of adding a pile of fairly pointless delay.

BTW is there a reason why nmudiff doesn't actually do the upload, as
well as filing the bug? It's very easy to forget the upload and thus
confuse the maintainer by saying 'I have uploaded foo to delayed/X'
when in fact you've not.

It could easily enough run dupload or dput at the end...

I do think there is plenty more room for soialising more NMUing. There
are piles of bugs in the archive that mostly just need uploading, and
many packages with a backlog of minor bugs, or packaging that frankly
just needs updating. But a lot of this quickly gets into 'updating'
and 'de-crufting' rather than simply minimally-bug-fixing. I suspect
that would see more pushback if one did much of it.

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Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:06:06 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:

  Especially if the NMU is properly done (eg documented in the BTS, uploaded 
  to 
  DELAYED-foo, etc) I've hardly seen any complaints in recent years.
 Surely I could have done better in providing a clean
 fix to #741415, making it more easy for the Debian folks
 to create an NMU. Sorry. I have included a real patch
 in the bug report today.

I think the reason was more that the bug was reported without a
severity, i.e. at severity normal, and only later and not long ago
raised to grave by someone else. So it hasn't caught the attention of
people looking at RC bugs yet.

Anyway, problem solved with the NMU :)
 

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Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.07.2014 23:42, schrieb Ansgar Burchardt:

 c/ Upload a new version of the init package which does the actual switch
 and changes the order via Pre-Depends: systemd-sysv |
 sysvinit-core. Diff[4]
 
 Why do a, and c, in two steps?

We want to have the safety measures in place before making the actual
switch.
The changes to sysvinit in b/ require the new init package though [3],
so we split that step into two.

Michael

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Re: Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-16 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Some sites (I mean, deployments) like to use a caching proxy, especially
if many machines use the same resource, and/or bandwidth is scarce.  Or
even just one machine accessing the same resource often.  Maybe this
won't apply to anything particular on people.d.o, but certainly a lot of
websites are breaking this recently by becoming HTTPS-only.

In the case of people.d.o I guess most issues will arise from clients
not having HTTPS support at all, or not being willing/able to follow a
redirect.

I'm curious to know the rationale for shutting down HTTP access, because
if it is to generally protect web browsers doing web-based login and
using cookies, that would typically be covered by HSTS.  And the
privacy-concious may be using the HTTPS Everywhere add-on.

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Re: Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-16 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Hi,

 Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org writes:
 And since BSD and GNU software are unable
 to link against each other, [...]

Oops, I should have said there that BSD software *if now linking
against LibreSSL* couldn't link with GNU software any more.

On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:32:40 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 I'm not sure that I understand your argument.  In fact, this seems like a
 rather strong argument *against* using LibreSSL.

It is, and yet I hope that's some reassurance that packaging LibreSSL
would not be harmful - if only certain packages are able to use it at
all due to licensing - and still fewer packages are allowed to link
against those packages in turn.  The effect of licensing makes the
problem of conflicting symbols much less likely to happen.

Potential (someday) users of packaged libressl libraries may tend to be
non-GPL, or BSD-specific, leaf packages.  Some ideas:
* openssh
* nginx, lighttpd, stud
* postfix or simpler MTAs
* some basic FTPDs
* bare-bones 'fetch'-type utilities
* some of GNU/kFreeBSD's freebsd-utils, such as geom
* things that people build on their own systems
* embedded systems

Using LibreSSL in something like libcurl is where it would be most at
risk of symbols clashing with OpenSSL when linked with other things, but
that seemingly should never happen due to licensing (too much software
would be excluded from using it, for libcurl to switch).

 In the world in which BSD software is linked with LibreSSL and the license
 exceptions have not been changed to allow OpenSSL-derived software, now
 (due to the way that Debian applies this rule transitively) GPL software
 can't link against BSD-licensed libraries that link with LibreSSL

Yes, exactly this.

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Re: Bug#754513: ITP: libressl -- SSL library, forked from OpenSSL

2014-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 13:17 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
  On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 12:47 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 
  It would be nice to have a reliable kernel interface for getting
  randomness rather than relying on proper chroot configuration.
 
  There is such an interface.  It happens to be a char device.  Expecting
  administrators to create /dev/urandom in a chroot is no more
  unreasonable than expecting them to create /dev/null or /dev/zero.
 
 I'm not a big fan of that either.  :)  Also, I think it's relatively rare
 for a library to require those devices exist for secure behavior, although
 perhaps I'm just not knowledgable in this area.

Since Linux 2.6.29, you get 128 random bits at each execve(), which you
can access like this:

/* BEGIN */
#include stdio.h
#include sys/auxv.h

#ifndef AT_RANDOM
#define AT_RANDOM 25
#endif

int main(void)
{
unsigned int *bits = (unsigned int *)getauxval(AT_RANDOM);

if (bits) {
printf(%08x%08x%08x%08x\n, bits[0], bits[1], bits[2], bits[3]);
return 0;
} else {
fprintf(stderr, no random bits available\n);
return 1;
}
}
/* END */

This is wanted to support things like stack protection in the C runtime,
which really can't depend on /dev/urandom.

I'm not sure 128 bits are enough in general, though they are still
better than pid and time.  And every child process that doesn't execve()
shares them with its parent (a much worse problem than the LibreSSL
bug).

I can only assume that many libraries still fail-unsafe in the absence
of /dev/urandom.  They should at least mix in the AT_RANDOM bits.

  I'm not sure sysctl should be that mechanism, but I'm quite sympathetic
  to the LibreSSL developers here.  Relying on a device being present in
  a chroot seems rather dubious.
 
  Less so than blundering on without entropy.
 
 Oh, certainly.  I'm in favor of aborting in libssl if /dev/urandom isn't
 available.  But it bothers me that one could get to that point.  It seems
 like an easy mistake for someone to make, and it seems somehow unclean to
 require access to a char device for randomness.
 
 I'm sure I'll get over it, but I do agree with the feeling that a lot more
 can go wrong when trying to open a character device than with some of the
 other approaches suggested.

Given that no alternative mechanism exists in Linux today, even if a
simpler mechanism was added tomorrow a general purpose library will have
to be prepared to fall back to the char device.  And it is really not
that difficult to use, so I don't see much need to add that simpler
mechanism.

Ben.

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Re: Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-16 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:43:17PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
 Some sites (I mean, deployments) like to use a caching proxy, especially
 if many machines use the same resource, and/or bandwidth is scarce.  Or
 even just one machine accessing the same resource often.  Maybe this
 won't apply to anything particular on people.d.o, but certainly a lot of
 websites are breaking this recently by becoming HTTPS-only.

Unfortunately, many of these proxies are broken.  The Squid version in
wheezy doesn't support HTTP/1.1, so trying to use chunked encoding or
100 Continue (which is required for certain applications[0]) simply
doesn't work.  And simply not working is one of the best failure cases
for broken proxies.  Using HTTPS ensures that the broken proxy problem
is gone.

 I'm curious to know the rationale for shutting down HTTP access, because
 if it is to generally protect web browsers doing web-based login and
 using cookies, that would typically be covered by HSTS.  And the
 privacy-concious may be using the HTTPS Everywhere add-on.

I can't speak for DSA here, but I some of the reasons that I went
HTTPS-only is that certificates are relatively cheap, pervasive
monitoring is not going away, crypto is so cheap computationally on most
platforms that there's no reason not to, and broken proxies suck.

[0] Git pushes over HTTP with Kerberos, among many others.

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Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 23:22 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
[...]
 New installations
 =
 The new init package will ensure that systemd-sysv is installed as
 default init on Linux and by demoting the priority of sysvinit and
 sysvinit-core to optional those packages will not be installed anymore.
[...]

Since sysvinit-core will conflict with a package of priority standard (I
assume that's what systemd-sysv will be upgraded to), its priority
should be extra on Linux.  (Also, it should actually have a Conflicts
header.)  But I don't know whether dak allows priority to vary
per-architecture.

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Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 17.07.2014 02:31, schrieb Ben Hutchings:
 On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 23:22 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
 [...]
 New installations
 =
 The new init package will ensure that systemd-sysv is installed as
 default init on Linux and by demoting the priority of sysvinit and
 sysvinit-core to optional those packages will not be installed anymore.
 [...]
 
 Since sysvinit-core will conflict with a package of priority standard (I
 assume that's what systemd-sysv will be upgraded to), its priority
 should be extra on Linux.

We are planning to update the priority of systemd and systemd-sysv to
required and demoting sysvinit and sysvinit-core to optional.
I'll amend the patch for sysvinit accordingly.

  (Also, it should actually have a Conflicts
 header.) 

You mean something like [1]?

 But I don't know whether dak allows priority to vary
 per-architecture.

That is not possible, see also Ansgars reply [2]. That means on
kfreebsd/hurd the init package would depend on a priority: optional
package. We are aware that this is a policy violation but it is unclear
if any actual problems arise from that. So input on that is appreciated.


Michael


[1]
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/sysvinit;a=commitdiff;h=5f276405bf288173f276d791cfb06e236919a6b6
[2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/07/msg00612.html

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Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-16 13:46:12 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 11:41:25 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
  On 2014-07-13 13:17:24 +0200, Arno Töll wrote:
   Unfortunately it turns out, that /a lot/ of people use aptitude
   --purge-unused safe-upgrade, or the apt equivalent apt-get
   dist-upgrade --purge which causes dpkg to purge the user's
   configuration, in particular enabled modules, during the upgrade
   because apache2.2-common disappears in that step. [...]
  
  Is there any reason why apt-get/aptitude removes the config files
  just after the package is removed, and not at the end of the upgrade
  process? IMHO, doing the later is safer and would solve this problem
  with Apache.
 
 It just calls dpkg with --purge.

But what I meant is that it could do 2 passes: one without --purge,
and a second one with --purge on the removed packages. Or...

 Something that would also fix this issue (among other upgrade
 problems) is using dpkg “transactions”:
 
   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579790#82

Yes!

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Re: nmudiff enhancements (was: NMUing generally)

2014-07-16 Thread Christian Hofstaedtler
* Wookey woo...@wookware.org [140716 23:48]:
 BTW is there a reason why nmudiff doesn't actually do the upload, as
 well as filing the bug? It's very easy to forget the upload and thus
 confuse the maintainer by saying 'I have uploaded foo to delayed/X'
 when in fact you've not.
 
 It could easily enough run dupload or dput at the end...

I suspect it would also be beneficial if nmudiff would query the
LowNMU list and possibly lower the delay.

 I do think there is plenty more room for soialising more NMUing. There
 are piles of bugs in the archive that mostly just need uploading, and
 many packages with a backlog of minor bugs, or packaging that frankly
 just needs updating. But a lot of this quickly gets into 'updating'
 and 'de-crufting' rather than simply minimally-bug-fixing. I suspect
 that would see more pushback if one did much of it.

Maybe these things need to happen in teams, basically sets of people
agreeing on the same packaging principles (i.e. we all use gbp and
single-debian-patch and dh and ...) and everybody sharing the same
goals could work on the team packages in collab-maint.

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Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-16 14:28:00 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:36:32AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
  I do that too. I haven't seen any official documentation saying that
  this is a bad thing to do.
 
 aptitude actively warns against it as highlighted in this thread.

Wrong! I purge removed packages almost all the time with aptitude,
and I've never seen any warning!

 Official documentation also doesn't say that running 'rm -rf
 --no-preserve-root /' is a bad thing,

Silly comparison. 'rm -rf --no-preserve-root /' does what it does:
remove everything. When I purge packages, I just expect config
files to be purged, not break the system!

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Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-16 Thread Christian Hofstaedtler
Hi Arno,

* Arno Töll a...@debian.org [140713 13:25]:
 [..]
 
 To summarize the bug reports: The problem is, that Apache package
 maintainers at that time decided, that third party modules shall depend
 on apache2.2-common, by guaranteeing ABIs remain stable as long as the
 package name does not change. [..] Unfortunately,
 apache2.2-common also contains conffiles and configuration file handling
 in postinst/postrm ...
 
 I spent a lot of time to properly transition to a new state with
 conffiles/configuration separated from ABI handling, and this works well
 enough for regular updates by now.
 
 Unfortunately it turns out, that /a lot/ of people use aptitude
 --purge-unused safe-upgrade, or the apt equivalent apt-get
 dist-upgrade --purge which causes dpkg to purge the user's
 configuration, in particular enabled modules, during the upgrade because
 apache2.2-common disappears in that step. Those people end up with
 effects as described in the bugs outlined above, for example with
 incomplete installations because our maintainer scripts had no chance to
 properly detect the state of the /etc/apache2 directory before the upgrade.
 
 This gives us three possibilities which all have unwanted side effects
 (unless you come up with an idea that all of us makes happy). I'm
 writing to this list in hope that someone has a very smart idea to make
 everyone happy, or express your support for either alternative to give
 us some insights what people think would be the best alternative.
 
 * Ignore the problem, and refer to the manpage of aptitude without
 proper fix etc. which clearly says THIS OPTION CAN CAUSE DATA LOSS! DO
 NOT USE IT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. The bad news is, we
 can't tell this before it's too late, such as in a NEWS file - and we
 know, everybody reads release notes too, right?
 
I'm expressing support for this, and/or your second option.
Any non-trivial setup will need config changes anyway, and any sane
person already uses version control for /etc + config management for
such setups.

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Re: Solutions for the Apache upgrade hell

2014-07-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-07-17 03:21:28 +0200, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote:
 * Arno Töll a...@debian.org [140713 13:25]:
  * Ignore the problem, and refer to the manpage of aptitude without
  proper fix etc. which clearly says THIS OPTION CAN CAUSE DATA LOSS! DO
  NOT USE IT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. The bad news is, we
  can't tell this before it's too late, such as in a NEWS file - and we
  know, everybody reads release notes too, right?
  
 I'm expressing support for this, and/or your second option.
 Any non-trivial setup will need config changes anyway, and any sane
 person already uses version control for /etc + config management for
 such setups.

Actually the problem is not the data loss. The problem is the upgrade
failure.

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Bug#755033: ITP: ropemode -- helper for using rope refactoring library in IDEs

2014-07-16 Thread Arnaud Fontaine
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Arnaud Fontaine ar...@debian.org

* Package name: ropemode
  Version : 0.2
  Upstream Author : Ali Gholami Rudi
* URL : http://rope.sf.net/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Helper for using rope refactoring library in IDEs

This package includes common parts of ropemacs and ropevim and is
required to package ropemacs = 0.7. It will be maintained as part of
Debian Python Modules Team.

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Bug#755035: ITP: rt-app -- Test application which simulates a real-time periodic load

2014-07-16 Thread Wookey
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Wookey woo...@debian.org

* Package name: rt-app
  Version : 0.2_alpha
  Upstream Author : Giacomo Bagnoli g.bagn...@asidev.com
* URL : https://github.com/gbagnoli/rt-app
* License : GPL2
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Test application which simulates a real-time periodic load

 rt-app is a test application that starts multiple periodic threads in
 order to simulate a real-time periodic load. It supports the
 SCHED_OTHER/SCHED_FIFO/SCHED_RR kernel mechanisms as well as the
 AQuoSA framework and SCHED_DEADLINE.
 
 It can be run with a simple command-line config, or a more complex
 set of tasks/threads configured in a (json) config file. 
 


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Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Tobias Frost
On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 03:05 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Am 17.07.2014 02:31, schrieb Ben Hutchings:
  On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 23:22 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
  [...]
  New installations
  =
  The new init package will ensure that systemd-sysv is installed as
  default init on Linux and by demoting the priority of sysvinit and
  sysvinit-core to optional those packages will not be installed anymore.
  [...]
  
  Since sysvinit-core will conflict with a package of priority standard (I
  assume that's what systemd-sysv will be upgraded to), its priority
  should be extra on Linux.
 
 We are planning to update the priority of systemd and systemd-sysv to
 required and demoting sysvinit and sysvinit-core to optional.
 I'll amend the patch for sysvinit accordingly.

What are the reasons behind are you going for required and not standard?

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Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Tobias Frost 

 On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 03:05 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
  We are planning to update the priority of systemd and systemd-sysv to
  required and demoting sysvinit and sysvinit-core to optional.
  I'll amend the patch for sysvinit accordingly.
 
 What are the reasons behind are you going for required and not standard?

A Priority: required package (init) isn't allowed to depend on something
with Priority: standard per policy.

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Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ansgar Burchardt 

 Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:
  So we are proposing the following scheme:
 
  a/ Upload a new init package. This is a new, essential package that
  will replace sysvinit as the package that ensures your system has an
  init system. We want to build this binary package from a package which
  is not tied to an actual init system, so we chose the
  init-system-helpers source package. Patch for init-system-helpers is
  available at [2].
 
 Would it be possible to have init not be essential while we are
 already changing things? There are valid use cases for init-less
 systems, for example chroot environments.

At least some packages do assume that binaries like /sbin/runlevel
exist, so dropping Essential: yes would mean a larger cleanup of the
archive.  I'm not opposed to that as such, but I'm not sure we need to
entangle that into this change?

(In most cases, I think people should be using containers and not
chroots, in which case you might want an init, but that's a somewhat
separate discussion.)

[...]

 On kfreebsd, init would then depend on an optional package as we don't
 support arch-specific priorities. That is (IIRC) a policy violation, but
 do any practical problems arise from this?

It would be useful to have a comment from one of the debootstrap
maintainers about this, I think.  That's the only one I can think of
that actually cares much.

Would it be hard to add support for per-arch priorities to dak?

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Accepted felix-framework 4.4.0-1 (source all)

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Accepted gnome-user-docs 3.12.2-1 (source all)

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Accepted pcp 3.9.8 (source i386 all)

2014-07-16 Thread Nathan Scott
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Source: pcp
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Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 3.9.8
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: PCP Development Team p...@oss.sgi.com
Changed-By: Nathan Scott nath...@debian.org
Description: 
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headers
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headers
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 pcp- System level performance monitoring and performance management
 pcp-conf   - Performance Co-Pilot runtime configuration
 pcp-doc- Documentation and tutorial for the Performance Co-Pilot
 pcp-gui- Visualisation tools for the Performance Co-Pilot toolkit
 pcp-import-collectl2pcp - Tool for importing data from collectl into PCP 
archive logs
 pcp-import-iostat2pcp - Tool for importing data from iostat into PCP archive 
logs
 pcp-import-mrtg2pcp - Tool for importing data from MRTG into PCP archive logs
 pcp-import-sar2pcp - Tool for importing data from sar into PCP archive logs
 pcp-import-sheet2pcp - Tool for importing data from a spreadsheet into PCP 
archive logs
 pcp-manager - Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) manager daemon
 pcp-testsuite - Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) Test Suite
 pcp-webapi - Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) web API service
 python-pcp - Performance Co-Pilot Python PMAPI module
Closes: 754929
Changes: 
 pcp (3.9.8) unstable; urgency=low
 .
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Accepted babl 0.1.10-2 (source all amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Matteo F. Vescovi
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Version: 0.1.10-2
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Matteo F. Vescovi mfvesc...@gmail.com
Changed-By: Matteo F. Vescovi mfvesc...@gmail.com
Description:
 libbabl-0.1-0 - Dynamic, any to any, pixel format conversion library
 libbabl-0.1-0-dbg - Dynamic, any to any, pixel format conversion library 
(debugging s
 libbabl-dev - Dynamic, any to any, pixel format conversion library (development
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Closes: 754905
Changes:
 babl (0.1.10-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * debian/: dh-autoreconf usage added
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Accepted erlang-ibrowse 4.1.1-1 (source amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Philipp Huebner
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Description:
 erlang-ibrowse - HTTP client written in erlang
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 .
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Accepted gcc-snapshot 20140715-1 (source amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Matthias Klose
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Description:
 gcc-snapshot - A SNAPSHOT of the GNU Compiler Collection
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Accepted gnome-bluetooth 3.12.0-5 (source amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Andreas Henriksson
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Source: gnome-bluetooth
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 3.12.0-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian GNOME Maintainers 
pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Andreas Henriksson andr...@fatal.se
Description:
 gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 - Introspection data for GnomeBluetooth
 gnome-bluetooth - GNOME Bluetooth tools
 libgnome-bluetooth-dev - GNOME Bluetooth tools - support library development 
files
 libgnome-bluetooth13 - GNOME Bluetooth tools - support library
Closes: 754924
Changes:
 gnome-bluetooth (3.12.0-5) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Emilio Pozuelo Monfort ]
   * Let gnome-bluetooth break gnome-shell ( 3.12).
 The private library libgnome-bluetooth-applet.so got removed and
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 is upgraded when gnome-bluetooth is. Closes: #754924.
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Accepted pymacs 0.25-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Arnaud Fontaine
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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 18:56:58 +0900
Source: pymacs
Binary: pymacs
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.25-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Arnaud Fontaine ar...@debian.org
Changed-By: Arnaud Fontaine ar...@debian.org
Description:
 pymacs - interface between Emacs Lisp and Python
Closes: 490489 565173 616970 673219 689464
Changes:
 pymacs (0.25-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release. Closes: #673219.
   * d/control:
 + Update Homepage field.
 + Take over maintainership with previous maintainer ACK.
 + Add Python Modules Team to Uploaders and corresponding Vcs-* fields.
 + Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.5.
   - d/copyright: Switch to machine-readable format.
 + Add missing X-Python-Version.
 + Add ${misc:Depends} to Depends (lintian).
 + Use python-all rather than python-dev (no extension being built).
   * d/source/format: Added and now using 3.0 (quilt).
   * d/pymacs.postinst,d/pymacs.prerm: Dropped (empty).
   * d/emacs_startup: Dropped (not used).
   * d/rules:
 + Switch to dh.
   - d/control,d/compat: Require debhelper = 8.
 + Use pybuild.
   - d/control: Add Build-Depends against dh-python.
   * debian/watch: Update download URL.
   * Follow Debian Emacs Policy:
 + d/emacsen-compat: Set emacsen-common compat level to 0.
 + d/control: Depends on emacsen-common = 2.0.8.
 + d/emacsen-startup: Properly set up load-path. Thanks to Darren
   Hoo. Closes: #565173.
 + d/emacsen-install: Use symlinks rather than copying *.el and do not
   delete them after byte-compilation (required for the help
   system). Thanks to Kevin Ryde. Closes: #689464.
   * d/patches/upstream_changelog.patch: Imported ChangeLog from upstream Git.
 .
 pymacs (0.23-1.2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Convert to dh_python2. (Closes: #616970)
 .
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 .
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Accepted bucardo 5.1.0-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Meskes
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Nicholas Jefferson nicho...@pythonic.com.au
Changed-By: Michael Meskes mes...@debian.org
Description:
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Accepted autoradio 2.8.2-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Andrea Capriotti
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Andrea Capriotti capri...@debian.org
Changed-By: Andrea Capriotti capri...@debian.org
Description: 
 autoradio  - radio automation software
Closes: 572927
Changes: 
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 .
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Accepted autoradio 2.8.2-3 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Andrea Capriotti
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Andrea Capriotti capri...@debian.org
Changed-By: Andrea Capriotti capri...@debian.org
Description:
 autoradio  - radio automation software
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted hy 0.10.0-2 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
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Version: 0.10.0-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Tianon Gravi admwig...@gmail.com
Changed-By: Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org
Description:
 hy - Lisp (s-expression) based frontend to Python (metapackage)
 python-hy  - Lisp (s-expression) based frontend to Python
 python3-hy - Lisp (s-expression) based frontend to Python 3
Closes: 731059
Changes:
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 .
   * Add CC0 to debian/copyright, even though they explicitly don't hold
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 .
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 .
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Accepted autoradio 2.8.2-2 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Andrea Capriotti
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Andrea Capriotti capri...@debian.org
Changed-By: Andrea Capriotti capri...@debian.org
Description:
 autoradio  - radio automation software
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted systempreferences.app 1.2.0-1 (source amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Yavor Doganov
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:31:03 +0300
Source: systempreferences.app
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systempreferences.app-dbg
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.2.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian GNUstep maintainers 
pkg-gnustep-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Yavor Doganov ya...@gnu.org
Description:
 libpreferencepanes-dev - GNUstep preferences library - development files
 libpreferencepanes1 - GNUstep preferences library - runtime library
 systempreferences.app - GNUstep preferences application
 systempreferences.app-dbg - GNUstep preferences application - debugging symbols
Closes: 749793
Changes:
 systempreferences.app (1.2.0-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release:
 - Compatible with current GNUstep libraries (Closes: #749793).
   * debian/source/format: Switch to 3.0 (quilt).
   * debian/compat: Set to 9.
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 (systempreferences.app-dbg): New packages.  Split the library as
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 (Vcs-Arch): Replace with Vcs-Git and Vcs-Browser.
 (Standards-Version): Claim compliance with 3.9.5 as of this release.
   * debian/rules: Update for modern dh.  Enable hardening.
   * debian/README.source: Delete.
   * debian/manpages:
   * debian/systempreferences.app.install:
   * debian/libpreferencepanes-dev.install:
   * debian/libpreferencepanes1.install:
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   * debian/SystemPreferences.desktop: Add Keywords field.
   * debian/copyright: Switch to format 1.0.
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Accepted python-dbusmock 0.10.3-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Martin Pitt
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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:32:03 +0200
Source: python-dbusmock
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Architecture: source all
Version: 0.10.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 
python-modules-t...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Martin Pitt mp...@debian.org
Description:
 python-dbusmock - mock D-Bus objects for tests (Python 2)
 python3-dbusmock - mock D-Bus objects for tests (Python 3)
Changes:
 python-dbusmock (0.10.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release:
 - Fix TestCLI.test_template_system test with upower 0.99. (LP: #1330037)
 - ofono template: Support adding a second modem with AddModem().
   (LP: #1340590)
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Accepted redmine 2.5.2-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
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Version: 2.5.2-1
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Jérémy Lal kapo...@melix.org
Changed-By: Ondřej Surý ond...@debian.org
Description:
 redmine- flexible project management web application
 redmine-mysql - metapackage providing MySQL dependencies for Redmine
 redmine-pgsql - metapackage providing PostgreSQL dependencies for Redmine
 redmine-sqlite - metapackage providing sqlite dependencies for Redmine
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted gtk-sharp3 2.99.3-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-07-16 Thread Mirco Bauer
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 21:23:28 +0200
Source: gtk-sharp3
Binary: gtk-sharp3 gtk-sharp3-examples gtk-sharp3-gapi libatk3.0-cil 
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Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 2.99.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian CLI Libraries Team 
pkg-cli-libs-t...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Mirco Bauer mee...@debian.org
Description:
 gtk-sharp3 - GTK# 3.0 suite, CLI bindings for GTK+
 gtk-sharp3-examples - sample applications for the GTK# 3.0 toolkit
 gtk-sharp3-gapi - C source parser and C# code generator for GObject based APIs
 libatk3.0-cil - CLI binding for the ATK accessibility toolkit
 libcairo1.10-cil - CLI binding for Cairo
 libgdk3.0-cil - CLI binding for GDK 3
 libgdk3.0-cil-dev - CLI binding for GDK 3
 libgio3.0-cil - CLI binding for the GIO libraries 2.24
 libgio3.0-cil-dev - CLI binding for GIO 2.24
 libglib3.0-cil - CLI binding for the GLib library of C routines
 libglib3.0-cil-dev - CLI binding for the GLib utility library 2.12
 libgtk-dotnet3.0-cil - GTK.NET library
 libgtk-dotnet3.0-cil-dev - GTK.NET library - development files
 libgtk3.0-cil - CLI binding for the GTK+ 3.0 toolkit
 libgtk3.0-cil-dev - CLI binding for the GTK+ toolkit 3.0
 libmono-profiler-gui-thread-check - Mono profiler library to debug GUI 
threading issues
 libpango3.0-cil - CLI binding for Pango
 monodoc-gtk3.0-manual - compiled XML documentation for GTK# 3.0
Changes:
 gtk-sharp3 (2.99.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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   * refreshed pkg-config_library_paths.patch and updated for gdk-sharp-3.0.pc
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Accepted libguestfs 1:1.26.5-2 (source amd64 all)

2014-07-16 Thread Hilko Bengen
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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:48:58 +0200
Source: libguestfs
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python-guestfs python3-guestfs libguestfs-perl libguestfs-ocaml 
libguestfs-ocaml-dev erlang-guestfs libguestfs-java ruby-guestfs 
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golang-guestfs-dev
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 1:1.26.5-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Hilko Bengen ben...@debian.org
Changed-By: Hilko Bengen ben...@debian.org
Description:
 erlang-guestfs - guest disk image management system - Erlang bindings
 gir1.2-guestfs-1.0 - guest disk image management system - GObject 
introspection files
 golang-guestfs-dev - guest disk image management system - Golang bindings
 guestfsd   - Daemon to access to guest virtual machine through virtio serial
 libguestfs-dev - guest disk image management system - development headers
 libguestfs-gfs2 - guest disk image management system - GFS2 support
 libguestfs-gobject-1.0-0 - guest disk image management system - GObject 
bindings
 libguestfs-gobject-dev - guest disk image management system - GObject 
development headers
 libguestfs-hfsplus - guest disk image management system - HFS+ support
 libguestfs-java - guest disk image management system - Java bindings
 libguestfs-jfs - guest disk image management system - JFS support
 libguestfs-nilfs - guest disk image management system - NILFS v2 support
 libguestfs-ocaml - guest disk image management system - OCaml bindings
 libguestfs-ocaml-dev - guest disk image management system - OCaml development 
files
 libguestfs-perl - guest disk image management system - Perl bindings
 libguestfs-reiserfs - guest disk image management system - ReiserFS support
 libguestfs-rescue - guest disk image management system - virt-rescue 
enhancements
 libguestfs-rsync - guest disk image management system - rsync support
 libguestfs-tools - guest disk image management system - tools
 libguestfs-xfs - guest disk image management system - XFS support
 libguestfs-zfs - guest disk image management system - ZFS support
 libguestfs0 - guest disk image management system - shared library
 libguestfs0-dbg - guest disk image management system - debug symbols
 lua-guestfs - guest disk image management system - Lua bindings
 python-guestfs - guest disk image management system - Python bindings
 python3-guestfs - guest disk image management system - Python 3 bindings
 ruby-guestfs - guest disk image management system - Ruby bindings
Closes: 752017 754615
Changes:
 libguestfs (1:1.26.5-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Don't attempt to run make quickcheck on all architectures. (Closes:
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   * Fixed the code that extracts dependencies from
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Accepted birdfont 0.41-1 (source amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Hideki Yamane
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Fonts Task Force pkg-fonts-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Hideki Yamane henr...@debian.org
Description:
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Changes:
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Accepted findutils 4.5.13-1 (source i386)

2014-07-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
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Version: 4.5.13-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Andreas Metzler ametz...@debian.org
Changed-By: Andreas Metzler ametz...@debian.org
Description:
 findutils  - utilities for finding files--find, xargs
 locate - maintain and query an index of a directory tree
Changes:
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 .
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   * Add Breaks for sendmail, see Bug#724772.
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Accepted libapache-poi-java 3.10-2 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
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Source: libapache-poi-java
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Architecture: source all
Version: 3.10-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers 
pkg-java-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org
Description:
 libapache-poi-java - Apache POI - Java API for Microsoft Documents
 libapache-poi-java-doc - Apache POI - Java API for Microsoft Documents 
(Documentation)
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Accepted boinc 7.4.8+dfsg-2exp1 (source all amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:50:27 +0200
Source: boinc
Binary: boinc boinc-nvidia-cuda boinc-amd-opencl boinc-client boinc-manager 
boinc-dev libboinc-app-dev libboinc-app7 libboinc7 boinc-server-maker 
boinc-app-examples boinc-dbg boinc-server-dbg boinc-cgi-stripchart
Architecture: source all amd64
Version: 7.4.8+dfsg-2exp1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian BOINC Maintainers pkg-boinc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Gianfranco Costamagna costamagnagianfra...@yahoo.it
Description:
 boinc  - metapackage for the BOINC client and the manager
 boinc-amd-opencl - metapackage for AMD/ATI OpenCL-savvy BOINC client and 
manager
 boinc-app-examples - example binaries for BOINC servers
 boinc-cgi-stripchart - CGI script for plotting basic statistical graphs
 boinc-client - core client for the BOINC distributed computing infrastructure
 boinc-dbg  - debugging symbols for BOINC binaries
 boinc-dev  - development files to build applications for BOINC projects
 boinc-manager - GUI to control and monitor the BOINC core client
 boinc-nvidia-cuda - metapackage for CUDA-savvy BOINC client and manager
 boinc-server-dbg - debugging symbols for BOINC server binaries
 boinc-server-maker - BOINC server applications and data files
 libboinc-app-dev - development files to build applications for BOINC projects
 libboinc-app7 - libraries for BOINC's scientific applications
 libboinc7  - libraries of BOINC the client depends on
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted libdevel-repl-perl 1.003026-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread gregor herrmann
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Version: 1.003026-1
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Perl Group pkg-perl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org
Description:
 libdevel-repl-perl - module for building a modern Perl interactive shell
Changes:
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 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Strip trailing slash from metacpan URLs.
   * Install new CONTRIBUTING file.
   * Drop patch add-whatis, merged upstream.
   * Update build dependencies. And lower debhelper compat level, since
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   * debian/rules: drop override which removed empty manpages which were
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   * Update years of packaging copyright.
   * Declare compliance with Debian Policy 3.9.5.
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Accepted libdancer-perl 1.3126+dfsg-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread gregor herrmann
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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 17:15:29 +0200
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Version: 1.3126+dfsg-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Perl Group pkg-perl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org
Description:
 libdancer-perl - effortless web application framework
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted libfailures-perl 0.004-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread gregor herrmann
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Version: 0.004-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Perl Group pkg-perl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org
Description:
 libfailures-perl - minimalist exception hierarchy generator
Changes:
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 .
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   * New upstream release.
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Accepted cyrus-imapd-2.4 2.4.17+caldav~beta9-10 (source amd64 all)

2014-07-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
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Source: cyrus-imapd-2.4
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cyrus-admin-2.4 cyrus-murder-2.4 cyrus-replication-2.4 cyrus-nntpd-2.4 
cyrus-caldav-2.4 cyrus-clients-2.4 cyrus-dev-2.4 cyrus-common 
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libcyrus-imap-perl
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 2.4.17+caldav~beta9-10
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Cyrus Team 
pkg-cyrus-imapd-debian-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Ondřej Surý ond...@debian.org
Description:
 cyrus-admin - Cyrus mail system - administration tools (metapackage)
 cyrus-admin-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - administration tools
 cyrus-caldav - Cyrus mail system - CalDAV and CardDAV support (metapackage)
 cyrus-caldav-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - CalDAV and CardDAV support
 cyrus-clients - Cyrus mail system - test clients (metapackage)
 cyrus-clients-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - test clients
 cyrus-common - Cyrus mail system - common files
 cyrus-common-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - common files
 cyrus-dev  - Cyrus mail system - developer files (metapackage)
 cyrus-dev-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - developer files
 cyrus-doc  - Cyrus mail system - documentation files (metapackage)
 cyrus-doc-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - documentation files
 cyrus-imapd - Cyrus mail system - IMAP support (metapackage)
 cyrus-imapd-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - IMAP support
 cyrus-murder - Cyrus mail system - proxies and aggregator (metapackage)
 cyrus-murder-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - proxies and aggregator
 cyrus-nntpd - Cyrus mail system - NNTP support (metapackage)
 cyrus-nntpd-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - NNTP support
 cyrus-pop3d - Cyrus mail system - POP3 support (metapackage)
 cyrus-pop3d-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - POP3 support
 cyrus-replication - Cyrus mail system - replication (metapackage)
 cyrus-replication-2.4 - Cyrus mail system - replication
 libcyrus-imap-perl - Interface to Cyrus imap client imclient library 
(metapackage)
 libcyrus-imap-perl24 - Interface to Cyrus imap client imclient library
Closes: 754786
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted liblog-contextual-perl 0.006004-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread gregor herrmann
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Version: 0.006004-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Perl Group pkg-perl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org
Description:
 liblog-contextual-perl - module for simple contextual logging
Changes:
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 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Strip trailing slash from metacpan URLs.
   * Drop manpage-has-bad-whatis-entry.patch; fixed upstream.
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Accepted nagios-plugins-rabbitmq 1:1.2.0-2 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Cyril Bouthors
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Maintainer: Cyril Bouthors cy...@boutho.rs
Changed-By: Cyril Bouthors cy...@bouthors.org
Description:
 nagios-plugins-rabbitmq - Set of Nagios checks useful for monitoring a 
RabbitMQ server
Closes: 749232
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted pgbouncer 1.5.4-6 (source amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Christoph Berg
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Version: 1.5.4-6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian PostgreSQL Maintainers 
pkg-postgresql-pub...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Christoph Berg m...@debian.org
Description:
 pgbouncer  - lightweight connection pooler for PostgreSQL
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted boinc 7.4.8+dfsg-2 (source all amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:22:31 +0200
Source: boinc
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Version: 7.4.8+dfsg-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian BOINC Maintainers pkg-boinc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Gianfranco Costamagna costamagnagianfra...@yahoo.it
Description:
 boinc  - metapackage for the BOINC client and the manager
 boinc-amd-opencl - metapackage for AMD/ATI OpenCL-savvy BOINC client and 
manager
 boinc-client - core client for the BOINC distributed computing infrastructure
 boinc-dbg  - debugging symbols for BOINC binaries
 boinc-dev  - development files to build applications for BOINC projects
 boinc-manager - GUI to control and monitor the BOINC core client
 boinc-nvidia-cuda - metapackage for CUDA-savvy BOINC client and manager
 libboinc-app-dev - development files to build applications for BOINC projects
 libboinc-app7 - libraries for BOINC's scientific applications
 libboinc7  - libraries of BOINC the client depends on
Changes:
 boinc (7.4.8+dfsg-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Steffen Moeller ]
   * Move ati and nvidia libraries from depends to suggests,
 avoiding the removals from testing at each xorg transition.
 .
   [ Gianfranco Costamagna ]
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   * Add some cuda suggestions, to help both ubuntu and debian users
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Accepted libio-socket-ip-perl 0.31-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
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Version: 0.31-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Perl Group pkg-perl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Salvatore Bonaccorso car...@debian.org
Description:
 libio-socket-ip-perl - module for using IPv4 and IPv6 sockets in a 
protocol-independent
Closes: 749212
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 .
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Accepted gnustep-performance 0.5.0-1 (source amd64)

2014-07-16 Thread Yavor Doganov
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 19:57:58 +0300
Source: gnustep-performance
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 0.5.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian GNUstep maintainers 
pkg-gnustep-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Yavor Doganov ya...@gnu.org
Description:
 libperformance-dev - GNUstep performance library (development files)
 libperformance0.5 - GNUstep performance library (runtime library)
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Closes: 753092
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Accepted libinline-c-perl 0.58-1 (source all)

2014-07-16 Thread gregor herrmann
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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:53:02 +0200
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Perl Group pkg-perl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org
Description:
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Closes: 754564
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 .
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