Accepted lsscsi 0.28-0.1 (source) into unstable

[Matthias Klose]

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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 08:22:04 +0100
Source: lsscsi
Binary: lsscsi
Architecture: source
Version: 0.28-0.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Matt Taggart 
Changed-By: Matthias Klose 
Description:
 lsscsi - list all SCSI devices (or hosts) currently on system
Closes: 867868 875846
Changes:
 lsscsi (0.28-0.1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * New upstream version. Closes: #875846.
   * debian/patches/lsscsi-Fix-truncation-of-128-bit-wwn.patch: fix lsscsi
 truncating 128-bit wwns (Closes: #867868) (LP: #1636467).
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[Erik Lundin]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 

Changed-By: Erik Lundin 
Description:
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development
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runtime
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runtime
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development
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- runtime
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framework - development
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- runtime
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Accepted icewm 1.4.3.0~pre-20171204-2 (source) into experimental

[Eduard Bloch]

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Source: icewm
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Version: 1.4.3.0~pre-20171204-2
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Eduard Bloch <bl...@debian.org>
Changed-By: Eduard Bloch <bl...@debian.org>
Description:
 icewm  - wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager
 icewm-common - wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager
 icewm-experimental - wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager
 icewm-lite - wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager
Changes:
 icewm (1.4.3.0~pre-20171204-2) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   * Patch and actually build fix: Back to PIXBUF as default image loader, the
 new PNG+XPM is not sufficient
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Re: ISO download difficult

[Jonas Meurer]

Am 05.12.2017 um 05:34 schrieb Paul Wise:
> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I've never managed to get d-i to find firmware I've put on a USB
>> myself, and always resorted to this approach. I never got around to
>> reading the source to figure out where it expects to look (nor to
>> improve the docs etc.)
> 
> The docs say to dump firmware files or packages on a USB stick:
> 
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en
> 
> To prepare a USB stick (or other medium like a hard drive partition,
> or floppy disk), the firmware files or packages must be placed in
> either the root directory or a directory named /firmware of the file
> system on the medium. The recommended file system to use is FAT as
> that is most certain to be supported during the early stages of the
> installation.

Last time I tried, neither of those worked. But I was too busy back then
to further investigate or report a bug and went with the full non-free iso.

Cheers
 jonas




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Accepted gcc-5-cross 29 (source) into unstable

[Matthias Klose]

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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Paul Wise]

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 04.12.2017 19:03, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> yes, I also agree this would work and be better than the status-quo.
>> however I'm inclined to believe doing this and adding a fourth repo,
>> non-free-firmware (additionally to main, contrib and non-free) would
>> be even better and also not need a GR.

I agree that having subsets of non-free would be useful for folks who
don't need all of it, but they should be subset components like
non-free/firmware rather than top-level components like
non-free-firmware.

> I like that this *finally* gets some traction. I have floated a GR
> before but people seem to be reluctant to have yet another vote.

I don't think we need a GR to do sub-setting of archive components,
just dak coders.

> I guess the question from my side is if the list of archive components
> in §5 of the Social Contract is supposed to be exhaustive or not. I.e.
> if we need to change that or not. If we don't need to: yay. (Maybe
> because we editorially consider firmware not to be software or something.)

If we go with the subset approach I suggest the firmware packages
would still be in the non-free/contrib "areas" and still be in the
pool/non-free directory on our mirrors but would also be mentioned in
the non-free/firmware/*/Packages files, which would be the firmware
subset of the non-free component.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

[Paul Wise]

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

> Yes, I've never managed to get d-i to find firmware I've put on a USB
> myself, and always resorted to this approach. I never got around to
> reading the source to figure out where it expects to look (nor to
> improve the docs etc.)

The docs say to dump firmware files or packages on a USB stick:

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en

To prepare a USB stick (or other medium like a hard drive partition,
or floppy disk), the firmware files or packages must be placed in
either the root directory or a directory named /firmware of the file
system on the medium. The recommended file system to use is FAT as
that is most certain to be supported during the early stages of the
installation.

The wiki documentation for this doesn't mention the root directory, so
perhaps this has been improved in recent releases:

https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_during_the_installation

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 09:45:33AM +0800, Yao Wei wrote:
> About alternatives, I found it difficult to buy a brand-new laptop with
> 802.11ac wifi chip which is available on the market.  All of them
> requires firmware or even non-free Linux modules.  
All wifi chips use firmware so this is a bad argument.

> My 2 cent is, we can distribute ISOs without non-free things, but we
> need an add-on pack to put into the USB flash drive for non-free network
> drivers
Please no.

-- 
WBR, wRAR


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[Jeremy Bicha]

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libgpod-cil-dev
Architecture: source
Version: 0.8.3-11
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian QA Group 
Changed-By: Jeremy Bicha 
Description:
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 libgpod-cil-dev - CLI bindings for libgpod -- development files
 libgpod-common - common files for libgpod
 libgpod-dev - development files for libgpod
 libgpod-doc - documentation for libgpod
 libgpod4   - library to read and write songs and artwork to an iPod
 python-gpod - Python bindings for libgpod
Closes: 628194
Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed: 789472
Changes:
 libgpod (0.8.3-11) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * QA upload.
   * debian/control: Update according to pkgconfig files
 - Have libpod-cil-dev depend on libgtk2.0-cil-dev
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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Marco d'Itri]

On Dec 04, Michael Lustfield  wrote:

> As long as I avoid Nvidia, I usually have excellent luck finding systems
> (specifically laptops) that work well without anything from non-free. With
> servers, I usually need something for the networking drivers but nothing else.
Looks like you are confused. Your computers are still full of 
proprietary software: you just lack a way to update it.

-- 
ciao,
Marco


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Accepted ruby-nenv 0.3.0-1 (source all) into unstable

[VDR dai]

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Changed-By: HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) 
Description:
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Changes:
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 .
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   [ HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) ]
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   [ Cédric Boutillier ]
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Closes: 858909 877344
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 python-mne (0.15.2+dfsg-1) unstable; urgency=medium
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[James Valleroy]

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Changed-By: James Valleroy 
Description:
 plinth - web front end for administering every aspect of a FreedomBox
Changes:
 plinth (0.18.0) unstable; urgency=low
 .
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 .
   [ Joseph Nuthalapati ]
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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Yao Wei]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 06:49:05PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 11:41:34PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > There are alternatives?
> 
> always.
> 
> 
> -- 
> cheers,
>   Holger

About alternatives, I found it difficult to buy a brand-new laptop with
802.11ac wifi chip which is available on the market.  All of them
requires firmware or even non-free Linux modules.  I asked MediaTeK
people with such issue when I had a job interview, and they replied that
they want to respect their shareholders. *sighs*

Everyone argues that firmware should be non-free and should be not
included in the ISO, but if the firmware is not able to sideload, it
means the firmware is not changable, and in most of the case we don't
have source code for it.  I believe it is the worse scenario than having
a non-free blob, which we can still have security updates.

My 2 cent is, we can distribute ISOs without non-free things, but we
need an add-on pack to put into the USB flash drive for non-free network
drivers, and we categorize the add-on not part of Debian.  We also have
to improve the website to point out, that "In most of the case non-free
drivers are required for your computer hardware to work", and point the
user to the add-on.

I hope my idea can balance our priorities of both the free software and
the users, and not give up one of them to achieve the other.

Yao Wei


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[Alf Gaida]

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Re: Should tasks be considered harmful?

[Paul Wise]

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:

> No, not really.  I want the installation to end up with a *more*
> predictable set of packages.  Attempting to do any sort of harware based
> package selection will result in less predictability.

Understood.

> Imagine a Debian user trying to assist another Debian user.  If
> you can't even establish a package set baseline, then where do you
> start?

There is already the possibility of different package sets, people can
install different desktops or even no desktop using d-i. They can also
add or remove packages after the installation is complete.

> No, I definitely don't want some magic guessing of what packages I need.
> I want the default install to include a large enough set of packages
> supporting as many use cases as reasonable.  If there are more than one
> alternative package providing a given service, then the default should
> be the one supporting most use cases.  At least if there is little or no
> doubt. Which I believe covers the wicd vs NM case.

That seems reasonable, I guess you should then file a bug against any
tasks that depend on wicd and ask them to switch to NM, but see Jonas'
response.

OTOH the number of use-cases supported by Debian is high.
Does everyone need to access NTFS/HFS+ filesystems?
Does everyone need to access iOS devices?
Does everyone need to interact with LEGO devices?
Does everyone need the app for firing foam missile launchers?

> Hardware detection during installation will also fail for common use
> cases like plugging in a USB modem after installation.  My example had a
> built-in modem, but it could just as well be an external one.

isenkram was primarily developed for the use-case of plugging in
devices and then getting the appropriate software installed and the
device working, my suggestion of adding isenkram to the installer was
primarily so that devices plugged in at install time will always work
on first boot. So isenkram could be both in the installer and in the
installed system.

> And even if this example was related to hardware enablement, that is
> only part of the problem.  Replacing any core system package with
> something other users won't consider "default" is going to cause
> confusion. I guess the definition of "core system package" is something
> which can be discussed.  But it is a fact that all the DEs come with
> their own set of system daemons, libraries and tools.  Take it to the
> extreme and you end up with the kernel being the only shared package
> between two different DE installations.

Debian hasn't yet defined any immutable "standard systems", it might
be interesting to do that and put them in ostree like Endless are
doing:

https://debconf17.debconf.org/talks/41/

That would require some repacking of "apps" .deb files into Flatpaks.

https://debconf17.debconf.org/talks/59/

It is definitely true that each desktop reinvents a lot of wheels, but
some things (like libsecret or gnome-shell or GTK+ or Qt) are shared
between some of them.

> I just realized that this might appear as if I am opposing choice.  That
> is not my intention.  What I am trying to say is that I found the
> results of the task selection confusing, because it wasn't clear to me
> that I was actually choosing a different Debian derivative by selecting
> one of the desktop tasks.  If you are going to continue to provide these
> variants, then it would have been better (for me at least) if every task
> was packaged as a separate installer image.

The Debian installer doesn't install any Debian derivatives (like
Ubuntu), it only installs subsets of the whole of Debian, but I assume
that "subset" is what you meant by "derivative".

To a small extent the different tasks are already packaged as
different installer images, there is an Xfce installer CD.

> This would also reduce the number of necessary questions during install.

This is probably a good thing for new users.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Russell Stuart]

On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 21:01 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> I end up needing non-free firmware on most bare metal systems, but
> nothing else from non-free.  I never remember how to include it at
> installation time.  And I don't want us to gloss over the fact that
> it is non-free and therefore not part of the official Debian system.

Yes, that is the core issue, isn't it?  In this corner case we are
being used as a pipe to carry a non-free blob from the manufacturer to
hardware.  That blob isn't part of Debian, any more than a bittorrent
stream is part of ComCast.  Yet both of us are being forced to carry
stuff we find obnoxious.

Luckily for Comcast they will work perfectly fine without the content
they would to charge more for.  All they have to do is convince the
politicians to let them do it.

We aren't so fortunate.  If we want to use Debian as a tool to educate
people on what free software is about, they have to be able to install
the thing.  That means we must swallow our pride and allow non-free
blobs for network drivers, GPU's, mass storage and what not onto our
install media.  So we fine ourselves in a catch 22 - if we want to
promote DFSG to the masses, we must break the DFSG for our very own
install media.  Worse, we must get permission from ourselves to do
this, and it seems we aren't as easily to manipulate as some
politicians.  Or maybe we are, because we already do distribute non
DFSG images.

Personally, I find the cognitive dissonance created hard reason about,
let alone swallow.  It seems like the DFSG contains it's own antidote. 
If true the DFSG needs to change to accommodate this corner case,
otherwise it will remain a festering auto immune disease we pick at for
eternity.

That doesn't seem like an impossible ask given the pipe analogy.  The
DFSG is ultimately about letting anyone start with Debian, and build
something new from it as easily as we can.  If we can
acknowledge Debian packages can serve as a mere communication channel
for blobs of data without compromising the "as easily as we can" bit,
then we have a way forward.

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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Alf Gaida]

On 05.12.2017 00:11, Adam Borowski wrote:
> How exactly firmware is not software?
> We may take a concession and offer non-free or parts of non-free more
> prominently (as it's needed on modern x86, all wifi cards I've seen, etc),
> but let's not declare that non-software.
>
> Thus, until the situation improves:
> * let's make the non-free iso download more obvious
> * explain why it's bad.  No quotes from Stallman -- they're opaque to most
>   users, quotes from Linus would be better.
>
> On the other hand, there's only 297 non-free packages in Debian, thus I
> don't see a benefit in splitting that further.  Most of it is firmware or
> docs with unmodifiable parts anyway.
>
>
> Meow!
And that's exactly the point - non-free is non-free is non-free. And
will ever be. So - there is nothing like 'good' non-free versus 'bad'
non-free. For which reason ever (sources not available, license things,
etc. pp.) all non-free things will be non-free. There is no distinction
- and it will be sufficient to put some firmware on an iso and name that
iso 'non-free'  - with all the things said above. The only real question
in this context is: Is that piece of non-free software distributable or
not? If so, it might be shipped.

This step will help some free software also a lot - best example is the
radeon driver - the driver is free and usable, but depend on a non-free
firmware. And i also see no bad things in delivering two images - the
free and the non-free one - it would be nuts to put away the efforts
that was needed to create the free ones. And for a stronger user
experience there should be a script remove-non-free on the iso - the
script or better the command should be promoted too:

apt purge $(vrms -s)

Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13

[Theodore Ts'o]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 05:56:45PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Theodore Ts'o writes ("Re: recommends for apparmor in newest 
> linux-image-4.13"):
> > [something about] security-weenies
> 
> IMO this language is completely inappropriate in any formal Debian
> context.

The second definition from http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/weenie

2) In the context of program development and among the "hackerdom"
that Raymond chronicles, the term weenie can be ascribed
respectfully to someone who is highly knowledgeable, intensely
committed to, or even just employed on a particular endeavor or in
a particular operating system culture. For example, a "UNIX
weenie" may mean someone who is an expert at using or modifying
UNIX . But, depending on the context, it could also mean a "UNIX
bigot."

> (I have to disclose an interest: I have a PhD in computer security, so
> maybe I am one of these "weenies"?)

Given that I served on the Security Area Directorate of the IETF for
close to ten years, the term could also be used to describe me.  But
as I said, if it's too hard for *me* to figure out how to make SELinux
work on my development laptop, perhaps folks would insist that I turn
in my security weenie union card...

I don't consider it offensive, just I don't consider the term "hacker"
to be offensive.

- Ted

Accepted ruby-multi-xml 0.6.0-1 (source) into unstable

[Cédric Boutillier]

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[Sascha Steinbiss]

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[Daniel Kahn Gillmor]

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Maintainer: Debian GnuPG Maintainers 
Changed-By: Daniel Kahn Gillmor 
Description:
 libgpgme-dev - GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy (development files)
 libgpgme11 - GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy (library)
 libgpgmepp-dev - C++ and Qt bindings for GPGME (development files)
 libgpgmepp-doc - C++ and Qt bindings for GPGME (documentation for developers)
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 libqgpgme7 - library for GPGME integration with Qt
 python-gpg - Python interface to the GPGME GnuPG encryption library (Python 2)
 python3-gpg - Python interface to the GPGME GnuPG encryption library (Python 3)
Closes: 866555 872368
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 gpgme1.0 (1.9.0-8) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * clean up wrap-and-sort
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[Alf Gaida]

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[Alf Gaida]

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[Abou Al Montacir]

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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Adam Borowski]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 11:46:37PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Dec 04, Russ Allbery  wrote:
> 
> > +1.  I think firmware is something conceptually different than non-free
> > software in general, and it would be good to give users a simple way to
> > choose to enable non-free firmware without enabling other non-free
> > software.
> Me too.
> Mostly everybody believed this until at some point we had "editorial" 
> changes to the Social Contract.

How exactly firmware is not software?

We may take a concession and offer non-free or parts of non-free more
prominently (as it's needed on modern x86, all wifi cards I've seen, etc),
but let's not declare that non-software.

Thus, until the situation improves:
* let's make the non-free iso download more obvious
* explain why it's bad.  No quotes from Stallman -- they're opaque to most
  users, quotes from Linus would be better.

On the other hand, there's only 297 non-free packages in Debian, thus I
don't see a benefit in splitting that further.  Most of it is firmware or
docs with unmodifiable parts anyway.


Meow!
-- 
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ 14:13 < icenowy[m]> are they hot enough? ;-)
⣾⠁⢰⠒⠀⣿⡁ 14:17 < icenowy[m]> I think now in Europe it should be winter? Let
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ the BPi warm you ;-)
⠈⠳⣄ 14:17 <@KotCzarny> yeah, i have a pc to warm me ;)

Accepted lxqt-openssh-askpass 0.12.0-2 (source) into unstable

[Alf Gaida]

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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Michael Lustfield]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 23:41:34 +0500
Andrey Rahmatullin  wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:34:05AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > For the discoverability, I would be quite comfortable with putting both
> > the free and the non-free download links prominantly on the page with the
> > non-free link going to or closely tied with a page that discusses the
> > issues, explains why we have this installer even though we don't really
> > want to, and maybe links to the FSF Respects Your Freedom pages to suggest
> > a hardware alternative.  
> There are alternatives?

As long as I avoid Nvidia, I usually have excellent luck finding systems
(specifically laptops) that work well without anything from non-free. With
servers, I usually need something for the networking drivers but nothing else.

-- 
Michael Lustfield

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Marco d'Itri]

On Dec 04, Russ Allbery  wrote:

> +1.  I think firmware is something conceptually different than non-free
> software in general, and it would be good to give users a simple way to
> choose to enable non-free firmware without enabling other non-free
> software.
Me too.
Mostly everybody believed this until at some point we had "editorial" 
changes to the Social Contract.

-- 
ciao,
Marco


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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 11:18:21PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
> I guess the question from my side is if the list of archive components
> in §5 of the Social Contract is supposed to be exhaustive or not. I.e.
> if we need to change that or not. If we don't need to: yay. (Maybe
> because we editorially consider firmware not to be software or something.)

hm, I think I'm standing somewhat corrected or shaky now, maybe this
*needs* a GR indeed. Then, my previous wording left room for the
interpretation that a GR would or could be good... ;)

> Is that something the secretary could tell us? :P

I believe so, yes.


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Accepted jasperreports 6.2.2-4 (source) into unstable

[Emmanuel Bourg]

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Accepted gnustep-sqlclient 1.8.1-3 (source) into unstable

[Yavor Doganov]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian GNUstep maintainers 

Changed-By: Yavor Doganov 
Description:
 libsqlclient-dev - SQL client library for GNUstep (development files)
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 .
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Accepted ruby-roxml 4.0.0-1 (source) into unstable

[Cédric Boutillier]

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 .
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Accepted python-numpy 1:1.13.3-2 (source) into unstable

[Mattia Rizzolo]

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Version: 1:1.13.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Sandro Tosi 
Changed-By: Mattia Rizzolo 
Description:
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languag
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 python-numpy-doc - NumPy documentation
 python3-numpy - Fast array facility to the Python 3 language
 python3-numpy-dbg - Fast array facility to the Python 3 language (debug 
extension)
Closes: 883457
Changes:
 python-numpy (1:1.13.3-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Team upload.
   * Remove unneeded debian/docs and debian/dirs.
   * debian/control:
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Accepted lxqt-notificationd 0.12.0-2 (source) into unstable

[Alf Gaida]

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Maintainer: LXQt Packaging Team 
Changed-By: Alf Gaida 
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Accepted maven-debian-helper 2.2.8 (source) into unstable

[Christopher Hoskin]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers 

Changed-By: Christopher Hoskin 
Description:
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Closes: 826410 883239
Changes:
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 .
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   * Fix file-contains-trailing-whitespace in changelog and rules
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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Philipp Kern]

On 04.12.2017 19:03, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 05:36:30PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)"):
>>> Myself, I would prefer us to keep both the free-software-only ISO and
>>> the non-free ISO with firmware and other things needed to get typical
>>> modern hardware running, and improve the discoverability of the
>>> latter. I think we can do that without having to have a GR to change
>>> the Social Contract or the DFSG.
>> Yes.
> yes, I also agree this would work and be better than the status-quo.
> however I'm inclined to believe doing this and adding a fourth repo,
> non-free-firmware (additionally to main, contrib and non-free) would
> be even better and also not need a GR.

I like that this *finally* gets some traction. I have floated a GR
before but people seem to be reluctant to have yet another vote.

I guess the question from my side is if the list of archive components
in §5 of the Social Contract is supposed to be exhaustive or not. I.e.
if we need to change that or not. If we don't need to: yay. (Maybe
because we editorially consider firmware not to be software or something.)

Is that something the secretary could tell us? :P

Kind regards and thanks
Philipp Kern



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Bug#883538: ITP: libmsnumpress -- numerical compression in mass spectrometry data

[Filippo Rusconi]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Filippo Rusconi 

* Package name: libmsnumpress
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Johan Teleman et al 
* URL : https://github.com/ms-numpress/ms-numpress  
* License : (Apache-2.0)
  Programming Lang: (C++)
  Description : numerical compression in mass spectrometry data

 Implementations of two compression schemes for numeric data from mass
 spectrometers.
 .
 The library provides implementations of 3 different algorithms, 1 designed to
 compress first order smooth data like retention time or M/Z arrays, and 2 for
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Accepted qtractor 0.8.5-1 (source) into unstable

[Jaromír Mikeš]

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[Alf Gaida]

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Re: ISO download difficult

[Debian/GNU]

On 12/04/2017 04:41 PM, eamanu15 . wrote:
>>3- if yes, let the user decide:
>>
>> "Your network card/wifi adapter needs non-free spftware to operate. You
>> may choose to keep this install 100% free software, in which case you
>> will have no network connection until you plug-in a supported adapter,
>> or to install the non-free software required to drive your adapter. What
>> do you prefer?
>>[] stay free (no network)
>>[] use network (install non-free software)"
>>
> +1

there's also the (already mentioned) use case where one network adapter
(e.g. the wired one) will work fine, but you need non-free firmware for
another adapter (wifi).
while this will successfully bootstrap the system to a point where the
user can launch a browser and duckduckgo why their wifi is not working
(as long as they stay wired) and eventually fix it, i think it is still
a kind of "bummer" experience for a *new* user, likely to turn them away.

which might turn the questions into something like:
 [] stay free (no wifi)
 [] enable all network devices (install non-free software)

(these are only meant to replace your suggestion in specific situtations)

gfdsamr
IOhannes



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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Ben Hutchings]

On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 10:34 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Holger Levsen  writes:
> 
> > yes, I also agree this would work and be better than the status-quo.
> > however I'm inclined to believe doing this and adding a fourth repo,
> > non-free-firmware (additionally to main, contrib and non-free) would be
> > even better and also not need a GR.
> 
> +1.  I think firmware is something conceptually different than non-free
> software in general, and it would be good to give users a simple way to
> choose to enable non-free firmware without enabling other non-free
> software.
> 
> For the discoverability, I would be quite comfortable with putting both
> the free and the non-free download links prominantly on the page with the
> non-free link going to or closely tied with a page that discusses the
> issues, explains why we have this installer even though we don't really
> want to, and maybe links to the FSF Respects Your Freedom pages to suggest
> a hardware alternative.

+1.  I end up needing non-free firmware on most bare metal systems, but
nothing else from non-free.  I never remember how to include it at
installation time.  And I don't want us to gloss over the fact that it
is non-free and therefore not part of the official Debian system.

Ben.

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Ben Hutchings
Lowery's Law:
If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway.



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Accepted python-characteristic 14.3.0-2 (source) into unstable

[Matthias Klose]

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[Alf Gaida]

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[Alf Gaida]

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Accepted kwave 17.08.3-1 (source) into unstable

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Accepted kfilemetadata 4:4.14.3-2 (source) into unstable

[Pino Toscano]

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Re: ISO download difficult

[Sean Whitton]

Hello,

On Mon, Dec 04 2017, Thibaut Paumard wrote:

> I vote for:
>1- putting the non-free firmware on all our images,

This seems more controversial than it needs to be, and misses an
opportunity for us to express our values.

Why are you against maintaining the fullly free images alongside those
with non-free firmware?  The issue is that the latter are hidden, not
that there's anything much wrong with the former.

-- 
Sean Whitton


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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Geert Stappers]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 08:21:21PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:34:05AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> >Holger Levsen  writes:
> >
> >>yes, I also agree this would work and be better than the status-quo.
> >>however I'm inclined to believe doing this and adding a fourth repo,
> >>non-free-firmware (additionally to main, contrib and non-free) would be
> >>even better and also not need a GR.
> >
> >+1.  I think firmware is something conceptually different than non-free
> >software in general, and it would be good to give users a simple way to
> >choose to enable non-free firmware without enabling other non-free
> >software.
> 
> I agree with Lars, Ian, Holger and Russ. (\o/)

+1

> I should now put my effort where my mouth is, and work on drafting
> proposals for the necessary website changes. (That's probably the area I
> can best contribute to right now; I'm less sure of the technical issues
> involved with a fourth repo. But I'd enjoy to learn if anyone feels like
> discussing them here!).

I have put some effort on http://stappers.it/ra303/
to solve the problem of getting non-free firmware
without adding 'non-free' to apt sources.


> >For the discoverability, I would be quite comfortable with putting both
> >the free and the non-free download links prominantly on the page with the
> >non-free link going to or closely tied with a page that discusses the
> >issues, explains why we have this installer even though we don't really
> >want to, and maybe links to the FSF Respects Your Freedom pages to suggest
> >a hardware alternative.
> 
> Agreed. I would like to be open to the idea that we hosted a page like
> that FSF one ourselves, but I think linking to the FSF's work is a good
> interim solution (perhaps long term one, maybe we will never get around
> to writing our own).
> 


Groeten
Geert Stappers
-- 
Leven en laten leven

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Jonas Meurer]

Am 04.12.2017 um 19:03 schrieb Holger Levsen:
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 05:36:30PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)"):
>>> Myself, I would prefer us to keep both the free-software-only ISO and
>>> the non-free ISO with firmware and other things needed to get typical
>>> modern hardware running, and improve the discoverability of the
>>> latter. I think we can do that without having to have a GR to change
>>> the Social Contract or the DFSG.
>> Yes.
>  
> yes, I also agree this would work and be better than the status-quo.
> however I'm inclined to believe doing this and adding a fourth repo,
> non-free-firmware (additionally to main, contrib and non-free) would
> be even better and also not need a GR.

+1

Cheers
 jonas



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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:34:05AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:

Holger Levsen  writes:


yes, I also agree this would work and be better than the status-quo.
however I'm inclined to believe doing this and adding a fourth repo,
non-free-firmware (additionally to main, contrib and non-free) would be
even better and also not need a GR.


+1.  I think firmware is something conceptually different than non-free
software in general, and it would be good to give users a simple way to
choose to enable non-free firmware without enabling other non-free
software.


I agree with Lars, Ian, Holger and Russ. (\o/)

I should now put my effort where my mouth is, and work on drafting
proposals for the necessary website changes. (That's probably the area I
can best contribute to right now; I'm less sure of the technical issues
involved with a fourth repo. But I'd enjoy to learn if anyone feels like
discussing them here!).


For the discoverability, I would be quite comfortable with putting both
the free and the non-free download links prominantly on the page with the
non-free link going to or closely tied with a page that discusses the
issues, explains why we have this installer even though we don't really
want to, and maybe links to the FSF Respects Your Freedom pages to suggest
a hardware alternative.


Agreed. I would like to be open to the idea that we hosted a page like
that FSF one ourselves, but I think linking to the FSF's work is a good
interim solution (perhaps long term one, maybe we will never get around
to writing our own).

--

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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
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Accepted buildbot-slave 0.8.12-2 (source) into unstable

[Matthias Klose]

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[Matthias Klose]

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[Alf Gaida]

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Accepted lbdb 0.45.3 (source all amd64) into unstable

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[Matthias Klose]

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[Pino Toscano]

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[Alf Gaida]

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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 06:49:05PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > There are alternatives?
> 
> always.
Non-x86, I assume.

-- 
WBR, wRAR


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Accepted liborcus 0.13.1-3 (source amd64 all) into experimental, experimental

[Rene Engelhard]

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Accepted wireshark 2.4.3-1 (source) into unstable

[Balint Reczey]

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Balint Reczey 
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Description:
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 libwiretap-dev - network packet capture library -- development files
 libwiretap7 - network packet capture library -- shared library
 libwscodecs1 - network packet dissection codecs library -- shared library
 libwsutil-dev - network packet dissection utilities library -- development 
files
 libwsutil8 - network packet dissection utilities library -- shared library
 tshark - network traffic analyzer - console version
 wireshark  - network traffic analyzer - meta-package
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 wireshark-dev - network traffic analyzer - development tools
 wireshark-doc - network traffic analyzer - documentation
 wireshark-gtk - network traffic analyzer - GTK+ version
 wireshark-qt - network traffic analyzer - Qt version
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 wireshark (2.4.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Show version info instead of just "Git Rev Unknown from unknown"
   * New upstream release
 - release notes:
   https://www.wireshark.org/docs/relnotes/wireshark-2.4.3.html
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[Alf Gaida]

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[Jaromír Mikeš]

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Description:
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Closes: 883478
Changes:
 ste-plugins (0.0.2-6) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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   * Bump Standards.
   * Vcs - use git instead of cgit.
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Accepted libspring-java 4.3.13-1 (source) into unstable

[Emmanuel Bourg]

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Version: 4.3.13-1
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers 

Changed-By: Emmanuel Bourg 
Description:
 libspring-aop-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - AOP
 libspring-beans-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - Beans
 libspring-context-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - Context
 libspring-context-support-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - 
Context Support
 libspring-core-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - Core
 libspring-expression-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - 
Expression language
 libspring-instrument-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - 
Instrumentation
 libspring-jdbc-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - JDBC tools
 libspring-jms-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - JMS tools
 libspring-messaging-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - Messaging 
tools
 libspring-orm-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - ORM tools
 libspring-oxm-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - Object/XML 
Mapping
 libspring-test-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - Test helpers
 libspring-transaction-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - 
transaction
 libspring-web-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - Web
 libspring-web-portlet-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - Portlet 
MVC
 libspring-web-servlet-java - modular Java/J2EE application framework - Web 
Portlet
Changes:
 libspring-java (4.3.13-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Team upload.
   * New upstream release
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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 11:41:34PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> There are alternatives?

always.


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Russ Allbery]

Andrey Rahmatullin  writes:
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:34:05AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:

>> For the discoverability, I would be quite comfortable with putting both
>> the free and the non-free download links prominantly on the page with
>> the non-free link going to or closely tied with a page that discusses
>> the issues, explains why we have this installer even though we don't
>> really want to, and maybe links to the FSF Respects Your Freedom pages
>> to suggest a hardware alternative.

> There are alternatives?

There are a few vendors who produce hardware with free firmware and try to
get rid of as much non-free code as possible.  The actual processors for
Intel-class systems still have issues, but it's a lot closer, and some of
those systems are ARM.

https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom

(Warning: The FSF is doing a membership drive with annoying pop-up
Javascript right now, for those who don't have Javascript disabled.)

-- 
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)   

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:34:05AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> For the discoverability, I would be quite comfortable with putting both
> the free and the non-free download links prominantly on the page with the
> non-free link going to or closely tied with a page that discusses the
> issues, explains why we have this installer even though we don't really
> want to, and maybe links to the FSF Respects Your Freedom pages to suggest
> a hardware alternative.
There are alternatives?

-- 
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Accepted libreoffice 1:6.0.0~beta1-2 (source) into experimental

[Rene Engelhard]

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Accepted icewm 1.4.3.0~pre-20171204-1 (source) into experimental

[Eduard Bloch]

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Urgency: low
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Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

[Russ Allbery]

Holger Levsen  writes:

> yes, I also agree this would work and be better than the status-quo.
> however I'm inclined to believe doing this and adding a fourth repo,
> non-free-firmware (additionally to main, contrib and non-free) would be
> even better and also not need a GR.

+1.  I think firmware is something conceptually different than non-free
software in general, and it would be good to give users a simple way to
choose to enable non-free firmware without enabling other non-free
software.

For the discoverability, I would be quite comfortable with putting both
the free and the non-free download links prominantly on the page with the
non-free link going to or closely tied with a page that discusses the
issues, explains why we have this installer even though we don't really
want to, and maybe links to the FSF Respects Your Freedom pages to suggest
a hardware alternative.

-- 
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)   

Accepted dtkwidget 2.0.5.2-2 (source) into unstable

[Boyuan Yang]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Deepin Packaging Team 

Changed-By: Boyuan Yang <073p...@gmail.com>
Description:
 libdtkwidget-dev - Deepin Tool Kit Widget library (development files)
 libdtkwidget2 - Deepin Tool Kit Widget library
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[Cédric Boutillier]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 

Changed-By: Cédric Boutillier 
Description:
 ruby-toml  - TOML Parser library for Ruby
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 ruby-toml (0.2.0-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Team upload
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   * https for Homepage
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Accepted r-bioc-variantannotation 1.24.2-1 (source) into unstable

[Andreas Tille]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging Team 

Changed-By: Andreas Tille 
Description:
 r-bioc-variantannotation - BioConductor annotation of genetic variants
Closes: 882362
Changes:
 r-bioc-variantannotation (1.24.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium
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Bug#883510: ITP: r-cran-recipes -- GNU R preprocessing tools to create design matrices

[Andreas Tille]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andreas Tille 

* Package name: r-cran-recipes
  Version : 0.1.0
  Upstream Author : Max Kuhn 
* URL : https://cran.r-project.org/package=recipes
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: GNU R
  Description : GNU R preprocessing tools to create design matrices
 This GNU R package provides an extensible framework to create and
 preprocess design matrices. Recipes consist of one or more data
 manipulation and analysis "steps". Statistical parameters for the steps
 can be estimated from an initial data set and then applied to other data
 sets. The resulting design matrices can then be used as inputs into
 statistical or machine learning models.


Remark: This package is the last precondition to upgrade r-cran-caret to
its latest upstream version.  It will be maintained by the Debian Science
team at
   https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-science/packages/r-cran-recipes.git

Accepted php-file-iterator 1.4.5-1 (source) into unstable

[David Prévot]

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   [ Sebastian Bergmann ]
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   [ David Prévot ]
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