Re: Proposal: switch default desktop to xfce

2013-10-25 Thread Jukka Ruohonen 
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 07:56:20PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 I do see quite an amount of ignorance and pushing regarding adoption of 
 systemd and GNOME. I fully accept that it may be difficult to agree on a way 
 forward? but currently I get the impression that any neither GNOME nor 
 systemd 
 upstream actually cares about agreement with all involved parties. systemd 
 developers are not even willing to accept patches to make systemd portable.

Indeed. And given the train wreck of contemporary Gnome, I fully welcome the
discussion on alternative default desktops. Some people are keen to rule out
the stakeholder issues, but a fact on the so-called agenda remains.

- Jukka.


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Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-02 Thread Jukka Ruohonen 
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 05:39:05PM -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
 When I said peripheral I meant in the sense that none of the Depends are
 used by anything else beyond R. I know it is not small -- there are now
 4400 R packages on CRAN, and we have about 150 of those in Debian.

I think it must be asked: what is the rationale of trying to re-package
those for Debian? CRAN works.

- Jukka.


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