Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Am 28.06.22 um 22:15 schrieb julien.pu...@gmail.com: Le mardi 28 juin 2022 à 22:08 +0200, Bastian Venthur a écrit : Wild guess: were your new uploads _*source-only*_ ? Good point! I totally forgot about that :) Thanks, Bastian -- Dr. Bastian Venthur https://venthur.de Debian Developer venthur at debian org
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 22:23 +0200, Paul Gevers wrote: > There are patches to support throw away binaries, but as far as I'm > aware they haven't been merged and I don't know the status of the > patches. That won't remove the need for binary uploads, but it would > remove the need for a re-upload. The patches for discarding NEW binaries have been merged in 2020 but the configuration to enable discarding NEW binaries wasn't enabled. https://salsa.debian.org/ftp-team/dak/-/merge_requests/184 -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Hi On 28-06-2022 22:17, Scott Talbert wrote: All uploads need to be source-only (since bullseye?). To be more correct, all package that are intended to migrate to testing need to be source-only. However, in the review process of NEW binaries, the upload still needs to contain all (and one arch) binaries for the ftp-master to review. There are patches to support throw away binaries, but as far as I'm aware they haven't been merged and I don't know the status of the patches. That won't remove the need for binary uploads, but it would remove the need for a re-upload. Paul OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Le mardi 28 juin 2022 à 16:17 -0400, Scott Talbert a écrit : > On Tue, 28 Jun 2022, julien.pu...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Wild guess: were your new uploads _*source-only*_ ? > > I looked at a couple of them and they were (source all) so that does > appear to be the problem. All uploads need to be source-only (since > bullseye?). Except uploads to NEW... which isn't 100% logical in my opinion. Cheers, J.Puydt
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022, julien.pu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, sorry I didn't follow the conversation but it seems that all my Python packages are still not migrating to testing and I don't really understand how to fix it. The error I see consistently in my Python packages is: > Issues preventing migration: > Not built on buildd: arch all binaries uploaded by venthur, a new > source-only upload is needed to allow migration I've re-uploaded all packages a few days ago, but the error is still the same. Wild guess: were your new uploads _*source-only*_ ? I looked at a couple of them and they were (source all) so that does appear to be the problem. All uploads need to be source-only (since bullseye?). Scott
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Le mardi 28 juin 2022 à 22:08 +0200, Bastian Venthur a écrit : > Hi, > > sorry I didn't follow the conversation but it seems that all my > Python > packages are still not migrating to testing and I don't really > understand how to fix it. The error I see consistently in my Python > packages is: > > > Issues preventing migration: > > Not built on buildd: arch all binaries uploaded by venthur, a new > > source-only upload is needed to allow migration > > I've re-uploaded all packages a few days ago, but the error is still > the same. Wild guess: were your new uploads _*source-only*_ ? Cheers, J.Puydt
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Hi, sorry I didn't follow the conversation but it seems that all my Python packages are still not migrating to testing and I don't really understand how to fix it. The error I see consistently in my Python packages is: > Issues preventing migration: > Not built on buildd: arch all binaries uploaded by venthur, a new > source-only upload is needed to allow migration I've re-uploaded all packages a few days ago, but the error is still the same. So is there a way to fix this on my and or is this a problem somewhere else and I just need to wait? Cheers, Bastian Am 24.05.22 um 20:07 schrieb M. Zhou: I wonder why an irrelevant package suddenly triggered autoremoval of a very large portion of packages from testing. https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/autoremovals.cgi Searched for keyword nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470, and I got 68866 entries. There must be something wrong. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470 Looking at the bug report of the package itself, and it does not look like glibc package is made broken by it. Any idea? -- Dr. Bastian Venthur https://venthur.de Debian Developer venthur at debian org
Re: Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 01:03:11PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > 2022, മേയ് 28 8:42:22 PM IST, Thomas Goirand ൽ എഴുതി > >On 5/27/22 09:48, Paul Gevers wrote: > >> Patches welcome. Code is here: > >> https://salsa.debian.org/release-team/release-tools/-/blob/master/mailer/mail_autoremovals.pl > >> > > > >IMO, if nobody has time to do it, the person who designed the tool should > >take care of fixing it. Instead of sending 536 mail, it should be sending a > >single mail with 536 entries in it... And it's not the first time I'm > >writing this. > > If we don't have volunteers, may be we can fund this? Thanks for opening issue on the corresponding repo. > I also got 1000s of emails from js team. > I think this is a horribly broken design with very high impact on > contributors. Some just don't contribute in js team because of high volume > emails. I unsubbed off js-team ML a couple of months ago due to similar reasons. I was getting more than 100 emails per day, and it would blow up to a few 100s when there was a mass bug filing/autorm going. I do, however contribute to JS team sometimes. > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/grow-your-ideas/-/issues/36 -- Best, Nilesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
2022, മേയ് 28 8:42:22 PM IST, Thomas Goirand ൽ എഴുതി >On 5/27/22 09:26, Andreas Tille wrote: >> Am Thu, May 26, 2022 at 08:47:20AM +0200 schrieb Nilesh Patra: >>> Would it be possible to manually remove this item from the list that >>> generates >>> autoremovals? >> >> ... or generate a blacklist of packages that should not trigger those >> removals. >> >> The autoremoval warnings are pretty helpful in general but if I'm forced to >> mass >> remove this subject from my mailbox I might loose other sensible autoremoval >> warnings. > >In general, it's massively spamming me, just it should be spamming you as well >(well, anyone maintaining a large amount of packages). > >I recieved 536 mails (2 days ago)... > >On 5/27/22 09:48, Paul Gevers wrote: >> Patches welcome. Code is here: >> https://salsa.debian.org/release-team/release-tools/-/blob/master/mailer/mail_autoremovals.pl >> > >IMO, if nobody has time to do it, the person who designed the tool should take >care of fixing it. Instead of sending 536 mail, it should be sending a single >mail with 536 entries in it... And it's not the first time I'm writing this. If we don't have volunteers, may be we can fund this? I also got 1000s of emails from js team. I think this is a horribly broken design with very high impact on contributors. Some just don't contribute in js team because of high volume emails. https://salsa.debian.org/debian/grow-your-ideas/-/issues/36 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
On 5/27/22 09:26, Andreas Tille wrote: Am Thu, May 26, 2022 at 08:47:20AM +0200 schrieb Nilesh Patra: Would it be possible to manually remove this item from the list that generates autoremovals? ... or generate a blacklist of packages that should not trigger those removals. The autoremoval warnings are pretty helpful in general but if I'm forced to mass remove this subject from my mailbox I might loose other sensible autoremoval warnings. In general, it's massively spamming me, just it should be spamming you as well (well, anyone maintaining a large amount of packages). I recieved 536 mails (2 days ago)... On 5/27/22 09:48, Paul Gevers wrote: > Patches welcome. Code is here: > https://salsa.debian.org/release-team/release-tools/-/blob/master/mailer/mail_autoremovals.pl IMO, if nobody has time to do it, the person who designed the tool should take care of fixing it. Instead of sending 536 mail, it should be sending a single mail with 536 entries in it... And it's not the first time I'm writing this. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Hi all, On 27-05-2022 09:42, Julien Puydt wrote: ... or generate a blacklist of packages that should not trigger those removals. That exists: key packages. Or the removal watcher could have a cap on the number of warnings it sends per sensible period of time. If it exceeds this number, it sends a special warning that something is amiss to debian-devel, so we still get to know something is going wrong. Patches welcome. Code is here: https://salsa.debian.org/release-team/release-tools/-/blob/master/mailer/mail_autoremovals.pl Paul OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Hi Le ven. 27 mai 2022 à 09:27, Andreas Tille a écrit : > Am Thu, May 26, 2022 at 08:47:20AM +0200 schrieb Nilesh Patra: > > Would it be possible to manually remove this item from the list that > generates > > autoremovals? > > ... or generate a blacklist of packages that should not trigger those > removals. > > The autoremoval warnings are pretty helpful in general but if I'm forced > to mass > remove this subject from my mailbox I might loose other sensible > autoremoval > warnings. > Or the removal watcher could have a cap on the number of warnings it sends per sensible period of time. If it exceeds this number, it sends a special warning that something is amiss to debian-devel, so we still get to know something is going wrong. One message to say "I was supposed to send 31415 warnings today" is definitely better than 31415 false-positive warnings... Cheers, J.Puydt >
Re: Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Am Thu, May 26, 2022 at 08:47:20AM +0200 schrieb Nilesh Patra: > Would it be possible to manually remove this item from the list that generates > autoremovals? ... or generate a blacklist of packages that should not trigger those removals. The autoremoval warnings are pretty helpful in general but if I'm forced to mass remove this subject from my mailbox I might loose other sensible autoremoval warnings. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Re: Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Would it be possible to manually remove this item from the list that generates autoremovals?This is creating an insane amount of noise and emails too.--Best,NileshOn 26/05/22, 12:11 pm Timo Lindfors wrote: On 5/24/22 21:34, Paul Gevers wrote: > https://bugs.debian.org/1011268 (but apparently my first assumption > was wrong and it's another bug, most likely Simon was right. Thanks for the link. I was quite puzzled this morning when I saw several removals messages. I guess I should just wait and hope that the removals don't actually happen. -Timo
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Le jeudi 26 mai 2022 à 09:32 +0300, Timo Lindfors a écrit : > > On 5/24/22 21:34, Paul Gevers wrote: > > https://bugs.debian.org/1011268 (but apparently my first assumption > > was wrong and it's another bug, most likely Simon was right. > > Thanks for the link. I was quite puzzled this morning when I saw > several removals messages. Several is an understatement... it's pouring in. Perhaps the autoremoval watch could *STOP* sending mails until the problem is fixed?! Cheers, J.Puydt
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
On 5/24/22 21:34, Paul Gevers wrote: https://bugs.debian.org/1011268 (but apparently my first assumption was wrong and it's another bug, most likely Simon was right. Thanks for the link. I was quite puzzled this morning when I saw several removals messages. I guess I should just wait and hope that the removals don't actually happen. -Timo
Re: questionable massive auto-removal: buggy deps nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470
Hi, On 24-05-2022 20:07, M. Zhou wrote: I wonder why an irrelevant package suddenly triggered autoremoval of a very large portion of packages from testing. https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/autoremovals.cgi Searched for keyword nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470, and I got 68866 entries. There must be something wrong. https://bugs.debian.org/1011268 (but apparently my first assumption was wrong and it's another bug, most likely Simon was right. Paul OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
