bluetooth (Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Mittwoch, 17. Juli 2013, Samuel Thibault wrote:
[PA]
 It's getting pulled through various packages.

same with bluetooth

  If you don't like it, uninstall it.
 It becomes more and more difficult to do it.

same with bluetooth
 
I don't use bluetooth, I don't want the bluetooth stack installed but yet I do 
see how this is a sensible thing to install with the default desktop. Same 
with PA I'd say.


cheers,
Holger





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Re: bluetooth (Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Levsen, le Wed 17 Jul 2013 12:04:24 +0200, a écrit :
 On Mittwoch, 17. Juli 2013, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 [PA]
  It's getting pulled through various packages.
 
 same with bluetooth
 
   If you don't like it, uninstall it.
  It becomes more and more difficult to do it.
 
 same with bluetooth
  
 I don't use bluetooth, I don't want the bluetooth stack installed but yet I 
 do 
 see how this is a sensible thing to install with the default desktop.

The difference is that bluetooth does not come in the way of what I am
already using.

Samuel


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Re: bluetooth (Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-07-17, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:
 same with bluetooth
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 see how this is a sensible thing to install with the default desktop. Same=
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 with PA I'd say.

especially both of them. They're needed when you want to use a bluetooth
headset in an easy way.

/Sune
 - who also likes being able to adjust the volume of different
   applications


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Re: bluetooth (Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread Mark Symonds

Broadcom is in serious need of a full-frontal attack.  

Everyone should check for them before buying hardware, 
And if you 'dmidecode | grep -i broadcom' gives or says anything,
spend your money elsewhere.  

Or take it back to the store -  and tell them why.  
(Proprietary, crap Broadcom chips) 

We should not buy anything with Broadcom chips.  Ever.  
We paid for this hardware, only to be sabotaged by their firmtware.  

Mark 



On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:04 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:

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 On Mittwoch, 17. Juli 2013, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 [PA]
 It's getting pulled through various packages.
 
 same with bluetooth
 
 If you don't like it, uninstall it.
 It becomes more and more difficult to do it.
 
 same with bluetooth
 
 I don't use bluetooth, I don't want the bluetooth stack installed but yet I 
 do 
 see how this is a sensible thing to install with the default desktop. Same 
 with PA I'd say.
 
 
 cheers,
   Holger
 
 
 



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Re: bluetooth (Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:46AM -0700, Mark Symonds wrote:
 
 Broadcom is in serious need of a full-frontal attack.  
 
 Everyone should check for them before buying hardware, 
 And if you 'dmidecode | grep -i broadcom' gives or says anything,
 spend your money elsewhere.  
 
 Or take it back to the store -  and tell them why.  
 (Proprietary, crap Broadcom chips) 
 
 We should not buy anything with Broadcom chips.  Ever.  
 We paid for this hardware, only to be sabotaged by their firmtware.

Are there any bluetooth-equipped laptops that fit that criteria? Most of them
run some Broadcom chip or other for bluetooth, to my knowledge.

In any case, non-wifi Broadcom things are actually pretty workable -- my Ideapad
Y410's ethernet controller is a Broadcom, running using the tg3 kernel module
that is included in the Linux kernel by default.

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Kind regards,
Loong Jin


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