Re: Recent DJB package GLibC problems

2002-12-23 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 03:32:07PM -0600, Jon Marler wrote:
 To all users of the official QMail and Ucspi-tcp Debian source packages:
 
 I am aware of the recent libc6 problems, and appreciate your bug reports and input.
 
 I am currently analyzing what the best course of action to take is.  I am
 worried that if I make a quick patch to the DJB packages, that libc6 may be
 changed again, breaking the DJB packages again, which would require the change
 to be backed out.
 
 I will most likely be using the patch provided by: Jurriaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to fix both packages, once I have confirmed that the libc6 change is permanent.
  Is anyone able to confirm if this recent libc6 change will be permanent?  If
 so, as of which Debian package release was this change made permanent?  (So I
 can correctly change the Depends: entry for the DJB source packages.)

Eh?  You don't understand the issue correctly.  If you use errno.h
(which is hopefully the fix you're talking about) then it will behave
correctly; old glibc, new glibc, whatever.

The change may be backed down for compatibility reasons, if we can get
it to work (dubious) but that's no excuse for not doing it the right
way.

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MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer


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Re: Recent DJB package GLibC problems

2002-12-23 Thread Jon Marler
Quoting Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Eh?  You don't understand the issue correctly.  If you use errno.h
 (which is hopefully the fix you're talking about) then it will behave
 correctly; old glibc, new glibc, whatever.
 
 The change may be backed down for compatibility reasons, if we can get
 it to work (dubious) but that's no excuse for not doing it the right
 way.

I agree that it should be fixed the right way.  Once I can confirm that changing
the QMail source will fix the problem, and not introduce any other bugs, I'll
make the change and upload.  I just didn't want to jump in too soon and make the
wrong fix.  If this was affecting stable, I would be more inclined to make a
quicker change.

Cheers!

Jon


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Re: Recent DJB package GLibC problems

2002-12-23 Thread Jon Marler
To all users of the official QMail and Ucspi-tcp Debian source packages:

I am aware of the recent libc6 problems, and appreciate your bug reports and 
input.

I am currently analyzing what the best course of action to take is.  I am
worried that if I make a quick patch to the DJB packages, that libc6 may be
changed again, breaking the DJB packages again, which would require the change
to be backed out.

I will most likely be using the patch provided by: Jurriaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to fix both packages, once I have confirmed that the libc6 change is permanent.
 Is anyone able to confirm if this recent libc6 change will be permanent?  If
so, as of which Debian package release was this change made permanent?  (So I
can correctly change the Depends: entry for the DJB source packages.)

I have asked Garrit Pape, the maintainer of the un-official packages, what his
thoughts are as well.

Bugs in reference:
   174005 - Ucspi-tcp-src
   174045 - Qmail-src

If anyone has any questions, please let me know.

Cheers!

Jon
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Re: Recent DJB package GLibC problems

2002-12-23 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 03:32:07PM -0600, Jon Marler wrote:
 To all users of the official QMail and Ucspi-tcp Debian source packages:
 
 I am aware of the recent libc6 problems, and appreciate your bug reports and 
 input.
 
 I am currently analyzing what the best course of action to take is.  I am
 worried that if I make a quick patch to the DJB packages, that libc6 may be
 changed again, breaking the DJB packages again, which would require the change
 to be backed out.
 
 I will most likely be using the patch provided by: Jurriaan [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]
 to fix both packages, once I have confirmed that the libc6 change is 
 permanent.
  Is anyone able to confirm if this recent libc6 change will be permanent?  If
 so, as of which Debian package release was this change made permanent?  (So I
 can correctly change the Depends: entry for the DJB source packages.)

Eh?  You don't understand the issue correctly.  If you use errno.h
(which is hopefully the fix you're talking about) then it will behave
correctly; old glibc, new glibc, whatever.

The change may be backed down for compatibility reasons, if we can get
it to work (dubious) but that's no excuse for not doing it the right
way.

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Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer




Re: Recent DJB package GLibC problems

2002-12-23 Thread Jon Marler
Quoting Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Eh?  You don't understand the issue correctly.  If you use errno.h
 (which is hopefully the fix you're talking about) then it will behave
 correctly; old glibc, new glibc, whatever.
 
 The change may be backed down for compatibility reasons, if we can get
 it to work (dubious) but that's no excuse for not doing it the right
 way.

I agree that it should be fixed the right way.  Once I can confirm that changing
the QMail source will fix the problem, and not introduce any other bugs, I'll
make the change and upload.  I just didn't want to jump in too soon and make the
wrong fix.  If this was affecting stable, I would be more inclined to make a
quicker change.

Cheers!

Jon


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Re: Recent DJB package GLibC problems

2002-12-23 Thread Petr Bal
Dne po 23. of December 2002 22:32 Jon Marler napsal(a):
 To all users of the official QMail and Ucspi-tcp Debian source packages:

 I am aware of the recent libc6 problems, and appreciate your bug reports
 and input.

 I am currently analyzing what the best course of action to take is.  I am
 worried that if I make a quick patch to the DJB packages, that libc6 may be
 changed again, breaking the DJB packages again, which would require the
 change to be backed out.

 I will most likely be using the patch provided by: Jurriaan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to fix both packages, once I have confirmed that the
 libc6 change is permanent. Is anyone able to confirm if this recent libc6
 change will be permanent?  If so, as of which Debian package release was
 this change made permanent?  (So I can correctly change the Depends: entry
 for the DJB source packages.)

Please add conflict with old qmail to libc6 package too. Think about this:
On update you get new libc6 and qmail-src. libc6 is updated, qmail-src is
updated but old qmail package is in the system. You can build and
install new qmail deb from qmail-src (by build-qmail) but you probably
can't be forced to do it right now. This can lead to big problem.

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