Re: apt-proxy usage
On 4/5/07, Philippe MONROUX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Internet is expensive in my paradise (perhaps it's the reason it is). So before I begin to fetch packages... Is it possible to use my apt-proxy. I mean ii apt-proxy 1.9.35-0.3 Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder Something like (if zandette is the name of my localhost): , | # $LIVE_MIRROR_BUILD: set the mirror to fetch packages from | LIVE_MIRROR_BUILD=deb http://zandette:/debian etch main contrib non-free | | # $LIVE_MIRROR_BUILD_SECURITY: set the security mirror to fetch packages from | LIVE_MIRROR_BUILD_SECURITY=http://zandette:/security etch/updates main contrib non-free | | # $LIVE_MIRROR_IMAGE: set the mirror which ends up in the image | LIVE_MIRROR_IMAGE=http://ftp.debian.org/debian/; | | # $LIVE_MIRROR_IMAGE_SECURITY: set the security mirror which ends up in the image | LIVE_MIRROR_IMAGE_SECURITY=http://security.debian.org/; ` Yes, definitely. I have to use the same a lot as here in Australia internet isn't expensive but just slow - downloading two or three hundred megs for every Live CD I make isn't exactly my idea of fun. And a question about software to install. If I want xorg, wmaker, iceweasel,emacs21-nox in a list. I presume I have to create (for example) : /root/debian-live/config/chroot_localpackageslists/LivePackageList with : , | emacs21-nox | x11-core | wmaker | iceweasel ` and in /root/debian-live/config/chroot : , | # $LIVE_PACKAGES: set the packages to install | LIVE_PACKAGES= | | # $LIVE_PACKAGES_LISTS: set the package list to install | LIVE_PACKAGES_LISTS=/root/debian-live/config/chroot_localpackageslists/LivePackageList ` AFAIK anything that gets placed in chroot_localpackageslists is included, you don't need to edit any other config file. -- Andrew Donnellan ajdlinuxATgmailDOTcom (primary)ajdlinuxATexemailDOTcomDOTau (secure) http://andrewdonnellan.com http://ajdlinux.wordpress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] hkp://subkeys.pgp.net 0x5D4C0C58 http://linux.org.auhttp://debian.org Get free rewards - http://ezyrewards.com/?id=23484 Spammers only === [EMAIL PROTECTED] === ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: the right place
Bonjour, Eric Crastes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit : Hi Philippe Live-Package is not developped any more !! You must use Live-helper now : http://archive.daniel-baumann.ch/debian/packages/live-helper/ it's not already in the Debian Package list, but it work ... If need advise in french ;-) you can contact me directly OK. Merci -- ph ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: apt-proxy usage
Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to use the same a lot as here in Australia internet isn't expensive but just slow - downloading two or three hundred megs for every Live CD I make isn't exactly my idea of fun. Another solution is to keep your own copy of the Debian archive somewhere on your local network. My brother has a cronjob that updates a local copy when he should be sleeping. The binary i386 archive changes about 200-300Mb a day apparently, but the initial download is obviously rather steep. -- Chris Lamb, Cambridgeshire, UK GPG: 0x634F9A20 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: apt-proxy usage
Hello With live-helper, in the configuration file common, you have a parameter : # $LH_CACHE: control if downloaded packages should be cached # (Default: enabled) LH_CACHE=enabled So downloaded package stay on your hard drive. So when you create an image, if it need a package already in the cache, it will not download it again !! Only if a new version exist or you need a new package. ericc On 4/5/07, Chris Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to use the same a lot as here in Australia internet isn't expensive but just slow - downloading two or three hundred megs for every Live CD I make isn't exactly my idea of fun. Another solution is to keep your own copy of the Debian archive somewhere on your local network. My brother has a cronjob that updates a local copy when he should be sleeping. The binary i386 archive changes about 200-300Mb a day apparently, but the initial download is obviously rather steep. -- Chris Lamb, Cambridgeshire, UK GPG: 0x634F9A20 ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: apt-proxy usage
Bonjour, Eric Crastes [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ?crit : With live-helper, in the configuration file common, you have a parameter : # $LH_CACHE: control if downloaded packages should be cached # (Default: enabled) LH_CACHE=enabled So downloaded package stay on your hard drive. So when you create an image, if it need a package already in the cache, it will not download it again !! Only if a new version exist or you need a new package. OK. It seems to be the good solution. Because to create a local mirror...we have to download it before ! Thanks -- Philippe Monroux 55.3W -21.5S http://perso.orange.fr/zigomaths/ http://www.gral.re ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: apt-proxy usage
Eric Crastes wrote: So downloaded package stay on your hard drive. So when you create an image, if it need a package already in the cache, it will not download it again !! Only if a new version exist or you need a new package. right, and the cache is self cleaning (with apt-get autoclean). -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Persistant Cows
I was wondering... Does anyone have a good solution for keeping changes to a Debian Live system persistent? I see that Casper offers a few options, the most tempting being a casper-rw partition on the USB stick that I use to boot Debian. The only problem is that it is flash storage and may not deal well with being written to all the time. I tried to create a jffs2 partition and add that to the unionfs manually (unionctl / --add /mnt/root/cow unionctl / --mode /cow ro); the problem here is that a reasonably big jffs2 file system is rather slow - too slow to be really useful. Eventually, I will probably try to procure an HD based USB drive, but in the meantime, I am a bit puzzled. Has anybody found a good way to work around this while keeping the whole system portable? Thanks, ~Juergen signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Persistant Cows
http://wiki.flimzy.com/index.php/Debian_on_USB I am using this system on 2 production LVS routers now, and on my home router... it still has room for improvement, but it seems to work pretty well :) On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 19:41 +0200, Lluís Gras wrote: I was wondering... Does anyone have a good solution for keeping changes to a Debian Live system persistent? I see that Casper offers a few options, the most tempting being a casper-rw partition on the USB stick that I use to boot Debian. The only problem is that it is flash storage and may not deal well with being written to all the time. I tried to create a jffs2 partition and add that to the unionfs manually (unionctl / --add /mnt/root/cow unionctl / --mode /cow ro); the problem here is that a reasonably big jffs2 file system is rather slow - too slow to be really useful. Eventually, I will probably try to procure an HD based USB drive, but in the meantime, I am a bit puzzled. Has anybody found a good way to work around this while keeping the whole system portable? Thanks, ~Juergen I've been working with similar setup, but with ext2 partition in usb stick, whithout journaling there are few writes to device. It's an option ;-) ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Persistant Cows
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:30:31PM +0200, Marco Amadori wrote: Alle 19:31, gioved?? 5 aprile 2007, Juergen Fiedler ha scritto: I was wondering... Does anyone have a good solution for keeping changes to a Debian Live system persistent? I see that Casper offers a few options, the most tempting being a casper-rw partition on the USB stick that I use to boot Debian. Use casper-sn, so a snapshot, it will write only once per session, at reboot, resyncing the whole /cow onto it. Doesn't that one work by copying the files from the snapshot to /cow? I'm working with some systems that aren't too generously equipped with RAM, so I don't want to put more stuff on the ramdisk than necessary. Thanks, ~Juergen signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: Persistant Cows
I've been working with similar setup, but with ext2 partition in usb stick, whithout journaling there are few writes to device. Also mount with noatime! Otherwise any read is also a write! Otherwise, yes, if you don't have swap and /var/tmp and /var/log and /tmp and swap using the flash there aren't going to be that many writes under normal use. Plus modern flash can take many more writes than the old stuff (except the cheapo read-only stuff that can only take a dozen writes or so) and incorporates wear-leveling under the covers. It's an option ;-) I'll give it a shot. Worst case, I'll have an excuse to get a new USB drive. CyberGuys has a very nive one for less than $20 :) Get several, and rsync the primary to the backups regularly so when the primary dies you won't be too sad. rsync -av --delete is a good way to duplicate while minimizing writes. One interesting note- while most flash devices wear out by surprise, there are some premium ones that measure wear and can be queried as to their remaining life! ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
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