Re: It's practical to dump an image to a Pendrive ?
Jordi Pujol wrote: [...] Here is a first version of that manual, I supose we'll put that in the Debian Wiki, and wrote that in this format, Installing manually is complete with GRUB as boot manager and KDE as desktop, Perhaps should complete some aspects, regarding other desktops or other boot managers, but the starting idea is exposed, How can I create a new wiki page for that article ? Register and log into the wiki - instructions are in the About page[1]. Go to the Live section[2]. Find a suitable page to link to your article and edit it to add a new link, eg [DebianLive/MyNewArticle] ''My new article about pen drives.'' Save the page and follow the new link to create the new page. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/About [2] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive -- Chris. ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: It's practical to dump an image to a Pendrive ?
A Dimecres, 11 de Juliol de 2007 09:49, Chris Lale va escriure: Jordi Pujol wrote: [...] Here is a first version of that manual, I supose we'll put that in the Debian Wiki, and wrote that in this format, Installing manually is complete with GRUB as boot manager and KDE as desktop, Perhaps should complete some aspects, regarding other desktops or other boot managers, but the starting idea is exposed, How can I create a new wiki page for that article ? Register and log into the wiki - instructions are in the About page[1]. Go to the Live section[2]. Find a suitable page to link to your article and edit it to add a new link, eg [DebianLive/MyNewArticle] ''My new article about pen drives.'' Save the page and follow the new link to create the new page. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/About [2] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive Thanks, the new page is: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Custom_Install ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: It's practical to dump an image to a Pendrive ?
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:21:26 +0200 Jordi Pujol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Custom_Install Consider also that if you use the -rw support instead of -sn (snapshot), he flash drive is added to the union and so is constantly read from and written to. This scheme may be suitable for a hard disc, but is not so good on a flash drive for two reasons: 1. the limited write lifespan I mentioned before 2. it is slow: when you use a snapshot, you avoid accessing the flash drive except when the system boots and shuts down For flash we recommend -sn and use casper-snapshot (live-snapshot if you are using live-initramfs). The custom install instructions might be better structured into two variants: - hard disc (includes swap, uses -rw) - flash drive (no swap, uses -sn) So why don't you try out this variant and update the wiki accordingly? Ben -- ,-. nSLUGhttp://www.nslug.ns.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] \`' Debian http://www.debian.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] ` [ gpg 395C F3A4 35D3 D247 1387 2D9E 5A94 F3CA 0B27 13C8 ] [ pgp 7F DA 09 4B BA 2C 0D E0 1B B1 31 ED C6 A9 39 4F ] ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
It's practical to dump an image to a Pendrive ?
Hello, About testing the procedure described in DebianLive/Howto/USB, working from a Debian GNU/Linux system, I have downloaded the image USB for the KDE desktop and I have dumped it to the PenDrive using the dd command. Inconvenient, - As it was predicted, the complete formatting of the Pendrive is produced - the Pendrive starts syslinux but then this does not find the files of kernel and ramdisk. To start is necessary do a syslinux reinstall. - Some versions of Windows are capable of recognize only the first partition of the Pendrive, the other partitions cannot be shared with Windows, and here is where the user should save their documents. - Casper gives errors of synchronization with the Pendrive, cannot write or read some sectors, the operating system does not work correctly. After that unsuccessful experience, I have downloaded the ISO and installed manually the files, create the following partitions on the Pendrive 1- vfat, to store user documents and share with other operating systems 2- ext3, with label home-rw 3- ext3 or vfat, containing the system files 4- swap, copy manually, from the ISO package, the system files and install the boot manager, Observe that this operating system works without problems, does not give errors of synchronization and shares the documents with the user of Windows. Conclusion, - The USB image is valid only for certain models of Pendrive, in some models produces an incorrect file system - is not practical to dump an image to the first partition of the Pendrive, the user should be able to choose the partition of installation and do an advanced formatting of the Pendrive. (as if was a procedure of installation of a real Debian). It's necessary a more accurate installation procedure for an USB Pendrive, meanwhile a manual install gives good results, I wrote an article about this experience in: http://gilug.org/?q=node/301 It's in Catalan language, I supose latin origined language speakers should not have problems to understand, A question : There is an article for a manual installation of the Debian Live system files on USB ? if not, I could translate that article to English as a first try to create one, Best Regards, Jordi Pujol ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: It's practical to dump an image to a Pendrive ?
I would appreciate a translation to English regarding the manual installation of the Debian Live system. This is an area I have been working on (and struggling with) also. Thanks for your contribution. desNotes On 7/10/07, Jordi Pujol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, About testing the procedure described in DebianLive/Howto/USB, working from a Debian GNU/Linux system, I have downloaded the image USB for the KDE desktop and I have dumped it to the PenDrive using the dd command. Inconvenient, - As it was predicted, the complete formatting of the Pendrive is produced - the Pendrive starts syslinux but then this does not find the files of kernel and ramdisk. To start is necessary do a syslinux reinstall. - Some versions of Windows are capable of recognize only the first partition of the Pendrive, the other partitions cannot be shared with Windows, and here is where the user should save their documents. - Casper gives errors of synchronization with the Pendrive, cannot write or read some sectors, the operating system does not work correctly. After that unsuccessful experience, I have downloaded the ISO and installed manually the files, create the following partitions on the Pendrive 1- vfat, to store user documents and share with other operating systems 2- ext3, with label home-rw 3- ext3 or vfat, containing the system files 4- swap, copy manually, from the ISO package, the system files and install the boot manager, Observe that this operating system works without problems, does not give errors of synchronization and shares the documents with the user of Windows. Conclusion, - The USB image is valid only for certain models of Pendrive, in some models produces an incorrect file system - is not practical to dump an image to the first partition of the Pendrive, the user should be able to choose the partition of installation and do an advanced formatting of the Pendrive. (as if was a procedure of installation of a real Debian). It's necessary a more accurate installation procedure for an USB Pendrive, meanwhile a manual install gives good results, I wrote an article about this experience in: http://gilug.org/?q=node/301 It's in Catalan language, I supose latin origined language speakers should not have problems to understand, A question : There is an article for a manual installation of the Debian Live system files on USB ? if not, I could translate that article to English as a first try to create one, Best Regards, Jordi Pujol ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: It's practical to dump an image to a Pendrive ?
A Dimarts, 10 de Juliol de 2007 17:01, Michael Fisher va escriure: I would appreciate a translation to English regarding the manual installation of the Debian Live system. This is an area I have been working on (and struggling with) also. Here is a first version of that manual, I supose we'll put that in the Debian Wiki, and wrote that in this format, Installing manually is complete with GRUB as boot manager and KDE as desktop, Perhaps should complete some aspects, regarding other desktops or other boot managers, but the starting idea is exposed, How can I create a new wiki page for that article ? Best Regards, Jordi Pujol Thanks for your contribution. desNotes On 7/10/07, Jordi Pujol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, About testing the procedure described in DebianLive/Howto/USB, working from a Debian GNU/Linux system, I have downloaded the image USB for the KDE desktop and I have dumped it to the PenDrive using the dd command. Inconvenient, - As it was predicted, the complete formatting of the Pendrive is produced - the Pendrive starts syslinux but then this does not find the files of kernel and ramdisk. To start is necessary do a syslinux reinstall. - Some versions of Windows are capable of recognize only the first partition of the Pendrive, the other partitions cannot be shared with Windows, and here is where the user should save their documents. - Casper gives errors of synchronization with the Pendrive, cannot write or read some sectors, the operating system does not work correctly. After that unsuccessful experience, I have downloaded the ISO and installed manually the files, create the following partitions on the Pendrive 1- vfat, to store user documents and share with other operating systems 2- ext3, with label home-rw 3- ext3 or vfat, containing the system files 4- swap, copy manually, from the ISO package, the system files and install the boot manager, Observe that this operating system works without problems, does not give errors of synchronization and shares the documents with the user of Windows. Conclusion, - The USB image is valid only for certain models of Pendrive, in some models produces an incorrect file system - is not practical to dump an image to the first partition of the Pendrive, the user should be able to choose the partition of installation and do an advanced formatting of the Pendrive. (as if was a procedure of installation of a real Debian). It's necessary a more accurate installation procedure for an USB Pendrive, meanwhile a manual install gives good results, I wrote an article about this experience in: http://gilug.org/?q=node/301 It's in Catalan language, I supose latin origined language speakers should not have problems to understand, A question : There is an article for a manual installation of the Debian Live system files on USB ? if not, I could translate that article to English as a first try to create one, Best Regards, Jordi Pujol ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel debian live usb pendrive-debian-wiki.txt.tar.bz2 Description: application/tbz ___ Debian-live-devel mailing list Debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
