Re: RFC: Roadmap to Lenny, or announcing Lenny Beta 1 RSN
Daniel Baumann wrote: Chris Lamb wrote: * Syslinux bootup issue - the boot template is displayed with the Debian logo but the the text is cut off: Press F1 for help, or ENTER to we spoke very shortly about it on debconf; it's an issue in qemu, aurelien was going to look at syslinux if the solution is obvious (don't heard back from him, so I assume it is not) I've filed this as #496869 against bochsbios on advice from Aurelien. The issue can apparently affect real BIOS implementations too, so a fix in syslinux might be preferable; but I have no idea. Perhaps we could move discussion of this issue to that bug to keep the maintainer (and aurel32) in the loop. 2. I've had a report of this issue appearing on a first generation Santa Rosa (Intel-based) MacBook, with and without the refit bootloader. [..] Are these the same issue, or should this MacBook issue be investigated seperately? i think this is most probably a different issue, yes. Okay. I've asked the reporter to try a Webconverger disk (as it uses GRUB). If this works, I will file a bug report and talk to upstream. I've also mailed Julien Blache as he is rumoured to be knowledgable about MacBook issues. Presumably d-i would also break on these machines? From a cursory glance, our syslinux configuration is not so different. (Expect a short delay on this, as I am now on VAC for a few days) Regards, -- Chris Lamb, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 0x634F9A20 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: RFC: Roadmap to Lenny, or announcing Lenny Beta 1 RSN
Chris Lamb wrote: Perhaps we could move discussion of this issue to that bug to keep the maintainer (and aurel32) in the loop. sure; thank you. Presumably d-i would also break on these machines? From a cursory glance, our syslinux configuration is not so different. sure. it's the same syslinux, so it fails everywhere. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: RFC: Roadmap to Lenny, or announcing Lenny Beta 1 RSN
Chris Lamb wrote: Here are a list of issues affecting Debian Live that I think should be fixed or investigated before Lenny. I forgot: * Syslinux bootup issue - the boot template is displayed with the Debian logo but the the text is cut off: Press F1 for help, or ENTER to It should, obviously, append boot: and allow the user to press enter or enter parameters, etc. I don't know the full details and this may actually be two issues, but: 1. I can easily reproduce this with Qemu. Simply waiting about 60 seconds results in the boot menu appearing. I have heard of other workarounds (including setting a high screen resolution) which do not cause the symptoms to appear. IIRC KiBi and aurel32 were discussing this issue and were blaming a change in Qemu, however: 2. I've had a report of this issue appearing on a first generation Santa Rosa (Intel-based) MacBook, with and without the refit bootloader. Waiting does not seem to do anything, but Qemu's concept of time doesn't seem to correlate with the real world anyway. Are these the same issue, or should this MacBook issue be investigated seperately? Regards, -- Chris Lamb, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 0x634F9A20 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: RFC: Roadmap to Lenny, or announcing Lenny Beta 1 RSN
Chris Lamb wrote: * Syslinux bootup issue - the boot template is displayed with the Debian logo but the the text is cut off: Press F1 for help, or ENTER to It should, obviously, append boot: and allow the user to press enter or enter parameters, etc. I don't know the full details and this may actually be two issues, but: 1. I can easily reproduce this with Qemu. Simply waiting about 60 seconds results in the boot menu appearing. I have heard of other workarounds (including setting a high screen resolution) which do not cause the symptoms to appear. IIRC KiBi and aurel32 were discussing this issue and were blaming a change in Qemu, however: we spoke very shortly about it on debconf; it's an issue in qemu, aurelien was going to look at syslinux if the solution is obvious (don't heard back from him, so I assume it is not), iirc his last-resort solution would be to revert the change in qemu which broke it (he already identified the offending line at that time). also, i should inform hpa about it, eventually he has a solution for syslinux itself. 2. I've had a report of this issue appearing on a first generation Santa Rosa (Intel-based) MacBook, with and without the refit bootloader. Waiting does not seem to do anything, but Qemu's concept of time doesn't seem to correlate with the real world anyway. Are these the same issue, or should this MacBook issue be investigated seperately? i think this is most probably a different issue, yes. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: RFC: Roadmap to Lenny, or announcing Lenny Beta 1 RSN
Chris Lamb wrote: * Syslinux bootup issue - the boot template is displayed with the Debian logo but the the text is cut off: Press F1 for help, or ENTER to It should, obviously, append boot: and allow the user to press enter or enter parameters, etc. FWIW, I used the freshly downloaded Live CD to boot up in a real system, aka no virtualization, and it worked exactly as it should have. Full message with the complete or ENTER to boot: I can test this in VirtualBox if you like, to see if other virtualization software aside from Qemu has this problem. Just let me know - I would be happy to help out. Cheers, Luke Seubert P.S. My compliments - the live XFCE CD worked beautifully. It ran fine, and it also ran very quickly for a Live CD. Only sidux is comparable for speed of the various Live CDs I have tried lately. ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: RFC: Roadmap to Lenny, or announcing Lenny Beta 1 RSN
Hi Chris, Chris Lamb wrote: 1. I can easily reproduce this with Qemu. Simply waiting about 60 seconds results in the boot menu appearing. I have heard of other workarounds (including setting a high screen resolution) which do not cause the symptoms to appear. This is causing me a real problem in autotesting. Its why there is an initial long pause in the autotesting videos. The only reliable work around I found was to wait 100 seconds. I tried anything to reliably eliminate this problem - higher resolutions etc. If I do not set this pause qemu will crash the vnc server. http://git.debian.org/?p=debian-live/autotesting.git;a=blob;f=video-qemu-booting-iso.sh (Line 123) Its worth noting that I found webconverger - with its grub menu does not appear to suffer from this problem. So perhaps the Macbook could be tested against webconverger ? BMS ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: RFC: Roadmap to Lenny, or announcing Lenny Beta 1 RSN
Does disabling the splash screen help? I've only encountered this on Debian Live with QEMU, not with other live CDs or on a real machine. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Brendan Sleight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, Chris Lamb wrote: 1. I can easily reproduce this with Qemu. Simply waiting about 60 seconds results in the boot menu appearing. I have heard of other workarounds (including setting a high screen resolution) which do not cause the symptoms to appear. This is causing me a real problem in autotesting. Its why there is an initial long pause in the autotesting videos. The only reliable work around I found was to wait 100 seconds. I tried anything to reliably eliminate this problem - higher resolutions etc. If I do not set this pause qemu will crash the vnc server. http://git.debian.org/?p=debian-live/autotesting.git;a=blob;f=video-qemu-booting-iso.sh (Line 123) Its worth noting that I found webconverger - with its grub menu does not appear to suffer from this problem. So perhaps the Macbook could be tested against webconverger ? BMS ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: RFC: Roadmap to Lenny, or announcing Lenny Beta 1 RSN
Daniel Baumann wrote: For Debian Live, I'm propose the following roadmap: Looks all good. If I'm missing something, please directly add it there (or reply to this mail explaining it if you think it needs to be discussed first). Here are a list of issues affecting Debian Live that I think should be fixed or investigated before Lenny. Ignoring the live-installer entry, they all affect packages out of our direct control. * live-installer not installing with some d-i options -- I didn't hear about this until today (and have not seen it with my tests). Daniel, could you file a bug for this with the details you know, even if you don't have exact reproducing steps? * 2.6.26 -- KiBi did a *great* job with aufs/2.6.25 issues (#493184) and this particular issue is closed and migrated to lenny. However, I think we will need to test this and related things with 2.6.26 when that is forced into testing (ETA today or tomorrow). * apt (#495321) -- This is actually a cosmetic bug but it makes live-magic image builds really ugly - we log the build by default to avoid tagging bugs with moreinfo. I had a go at hacking this on the weekend, but I don't know really anything low-level about apt or terminals. Regards, -- Chris Lamb, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 0x634F9A20 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
Re: RFC: Roadmap to Lenny, or announcing Lenny Beta 1 RSN
Chris Lamb wrote: Here are a list of issues affecting Debian Live that I think should be fixed or investigated before Lenny. Ignoring the live-installer entry, they all affect packages out of our direct control. Thanks Chris from bringing these to attention. * live-installer not installing with some d-i options -- I didn't hear about this until today (and have not seen it with my tests). Daniel, could you file a bug for this with the details you know, even if you don't have exact reproducing steps? i will do so, however, i would like to run a test tomorrow or on thursday to actually debug the problem before and see if i can fix it directly, or, then at least provide the most accurate information possible for the bug report. * 2.6.26 -- KiBi did a *great* job with aufs/2.6.25 issues (#493184) ack. thanks a lot, again, kibi. and this particular issue is closed and migrated to lenny. However, I think we will need to test this and related things with 2.6.26 when that is forced into testing (ETA today or tomorrow). yep. i'll also make sure that we have snapshot images with .26 as soon as it has migrated, for the broader audience. * apt (#495321) -- This is actually a cosmetic bug but it makes live-magic image builds really ugly - we log the build by default to avoid tagging bugs with moreinfo. I had a go at hacking this on the weekend, but I don't know really anything low-level about apt or terminals. I hope we can persuade otavio to have a look at it too. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ ___ debian-live-devel mailing list debian-live-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debian-live-devel
