Re: testing live-helper_1.0~a9-1

2007-05-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I am using debootstrap 0.3.3.3 on a Debian Lenny system.

 well, that's a debootstrap issue, not related to live-helper.

 Although you are free to use debootstrap, I stronly recommend
 cdebootstrap for one reason: it has less bugs and is actively maintained
 (debootstrap is on 'NMU if you think there is a problem'-only mode).

 One other anoying bug of debootstrap is, that it doesn't create the
 right device set in /dev; e.g. one cannot compile the bash package in it
 (not that this is here of importance, but I just mentioned it anyway).


I tested it again with the latest cdebootstrap from unstable, and with that 
one it seems to work fine. It now finds the 'testing' suite. Also, 
the 'quickreboot' now works as expected.

J.Neuhoff
 

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Re: testing live-helper_1.0~a9-1

2007-05-11 Thread Daniel Baumann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am using debootstrap 0.3.3.3 on a Debian Lenny system.

well, that's a debootstrap issue, not related to live-helper.

Although you are free to use debootstrap, I stronly recommend
cdebootstrap for one reason: it has less bugs and is actively maintained
(debootstrap is on 'NMU if you think there is a problem'-only mode).

One other anoying bug of debootstrap is, that it doesn't create the
right device set in /dev; e.g. one cannot compile the bash package in it
(not that this is here of importance, but I just mentioned it anyway).

 How excactly do I make it towork with live-initramfs? Are we talking abount 
 the 'nopersistent' option when starting up the live Debian from USB?

I was talking about quickreboot. You can use live-initramfs by setting
LH_INITRAMFS to 'live-initramfs' in config/common, and, because it's
stuck in the NEW queue, copy /usr/share/exampes/live.sources.list to
config/chroot_sources/live.{build,image}.

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Re: testing live-helper_1.0~a9-1

2007-05-11 Thread Marco Amadori
Alle venerdì 11 maggio 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
  You should copy it to the / (root) of a partition that resides on a
  block device, and casper (and hence live-initramfs) should take care of
  resync on reboot or when you call casper-snapshot with the resync
  string that will be added on boot in /etc/casper.conf. (only if booted
  with the persitent boot param).

 Hmm, all I could find about this in the 'man casper-snapshot' was this:

  -r, --resync-stringSTRING
   internally used on resyncs.


Look at my suggestion above, I meant in my poor english that you should boot 
your system once with the snapshot in the system, then look at the resync 
string that will be created by casper on /etc/casper.conf. Then you can pass 
it to casper-snapshot.

The syntax of the string is: SNAP=${snap_mount}:${snapdev}:${snapfile}

Where mount=/home or /root typically, snapdev something like /dev/sda1 for 
usb, and snapfile something like casper-sn.cpio.gz

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Re: testing live-helper_1.0~a9-1

2007-05-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have tested the make-live again for '--binary usb-hdd' and '--filesystem 
 squashfs' and its looks quite promising. 

thanks :)

 I have made the following observations:
 
 - make-live only works for 'etch'. It won't find the 'testing' nor the 
 'lenny' 
 suites.

it works for me here, what errors do you get (both lenny or testing)?
what version of cdebootstrap or debootstrap are you using?

 - make-live creates an incomplete binary for the 'sid', there were no vmlinuz 
 nor initrd.img in the '/debian-live/binay'

sid is currently completely broken (not realted to debian-live):

15:58:13  panthera sid was never broken on so many points as it is now
15:58:43  panthera libsasl (fixed now), cdebootstrap (fixed too),
e2fsutils (fixed as well),
15:59:06  panthera and now dpkg is fucked; not speaking of that i
should prepare that l-m-e-2.6 uploads RSN

 - For casper, the option 'quickreboot' has no effect. After a 'sudo reboot', 
 the system always prompts the user to remove a CD-ROM or USB drive and then 
 hit enter.

I've not tried it with casper, but with live-initramfs it just works.

 Also, I was wondering whether there is an easy solution for making the 'cow' 
 branch of the unionfs, which the Debian Live uses, persistent without having 
 to use another 'casper-rw' partition on the USB stick, and without having to 
 do a shutdown/reboot. I tried '/sbin/casper-snapshot' and copied the 
 resulting 'mnt/casper-snapshot/casper-sn.cpio.gz' to '/live_media', so 
 perhaps these steps can be written up as a script for a daily crontab?

i think that is a good idea. unfortunately, i'm not yet that cached up
to the snapshotting/persistency functionality, but i will think of it
when i'll come to it soon.

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Re: testing live-helper_1.0~a9-1

2007-05-10 Thread Marco Amadori
Alle giovedì 10 maggio 2007, Daniel Baumann ha scritto:

  - For casper, the option 'quickreboot' has no effect. After a 'sudo
  reboot', the system always prompts the user to remove a CD-ROM or USB
  drive and then hit enter.

 I've not tried it with casper, but with live-initramfs it just works.

Strange, what you changed here, Daniel ?

  Also, I was wondering whether there is an easy solution for making the
  'cow' branch of the unionfs, which the Debian Live uses, persistent
  without having to use another 'casper-rw' partition on the USB stick, and
  without having to do a shutdown/reboot. I tried '/sbin/casper-snapshot'
  and copied the resulting 'mnt/casper-snapshot/casper-sn.cpio.gz' to
  '/live_media', so perhaps these steps can be written up as a script for a
  daily crontab?

You should copy it to the / (root) of a partition that resides on a block 
device, and casper (and hence live-initramfs) should take care of resync on 
reboot or when you call casper-snapshot with the resync string that will be 
added on boot in /etc/casper.conf. (only if booted with the persitent boot 
param).

 i think that is a good idea. unfortunately, i'm not yet that cached up
 to the snapshotting/persistency functionality, but i will think of it
 when i'll come to it soon.

As a crontab you could just call casper-snapshot with the correct resync 
string or with right parameters.


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Re: testing live-helper_1.0~a9-1

2007-05-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
Marco Amadori wrote:
 Strange, what you changed here, Daniel ?

Nothing directly on the quickreboot thing, and also I can't actually
imagine anything having an influence on this.

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Re: testing live-helper_1.0~a9-1

2007-05-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 it works for me here, what errors do you get (both lenny or testing)?
 what version of cdebootstrap or debootstrap are you using?

The error message is:
E: Unknown suite lenny

I am using debootstrap 0.3.3.3 on a Debian Lenny system.

 - For casper, the option 'quickreboot' has no effect. After a 'sudo 
reboot', 
 the system always prompts the user to remove a CD-ROM or USB drive and then 
 hit enter.

I've not tried it with casper, but with live-initramfs it just works.

How excactly do I make it towork with live-initramfs? Are we talking abount 
the 'nopersistent' option when starting up the live Debian from USB?

J.Neuhoff

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Re: testing live-helper_1.0~a9-1

2007-05-10 Thread Mathieu GELI

The error message is:
E: Unknown suite lenny

I am using debootstrap 0.3.3.3 on a Debian Lenny system.


any good reason not to use cdebootstrap ?
(it works fine with 0.3.19)

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