Re: swap partition in Flash drives

2007-07-12 Thread Jordi Pujol 
First, sorry I can not answer continuing the thread of the conversation 
because these last days has been problems on the Internet at International 
level and I dont have received all the messages about this theme.

Referring to what we are speaking, 
I believe that what we treat is to install an Operating System for the people 
that travels, and works in different computers, we should do them know that 
an OS does not start if has not a minimum of hardware. and the RAM memory is 
critical for the system. And the swap space supplies a replacement with 
little RAM memory. The user could decide about if the computers where he 
works needs swapping.
Likewise I believe that we should dissuade the installation of complete System 
persistence, because each change in the file system is written to disk, And 
in FLASH that is slow and also can burn the life of the memory.

Jordi Pujol

A Dimecres, 11 de Juliol de 2007 15:43, Jordi Pujol va escriure:
 Hello,

 I have written the howto for Custom Installing a Debian Live in any drive,

 Thanks to Ben Armstrong for doing some style and consistence corrections in
 that howto, I acknowledge myself some lack of fluency writting and
 explaining in the English language,

 But I disagree with you technically, Ben, when you said that a swap
 partition is not necessary on an USB flash drive,

 If the computer has enough memory, the swap partition will not be used,

 But if the computer has 128MB of RAM or less, the OS will not start and the
 user has no solution to solve this failure.

 The swap memory is to prevent this case, and to give the user a possibility
 to work in all situations,

 in schools or some cyber-cafe ?(correct word for me) is common to save
 installing old or less powerful equipment, a Pentium 200 and 128MB of RAM,
 and the Live Operating Systems should work there.

 And also I have read some articles giving more than thousand years of live
 for an USB pendrive been written several times a day.

 What do you think ?

 Best regards,

 Jordi Pujol

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Re: swap partition in Flash drives

2007-07-11 Thread Ben Armstrong 
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:43:40 +0200
Jordi Pujol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But I disagree with you technically, Ben, when you said that a swap partition 
 is not necessary on an USB flash drive,
 
 If the computer has enough memory, the swap partition will not be used, 
 
 But if the computer has 128MB of RAM or less, the OS will not start and the 
 user has no solution to solve this failure.

Unfortunate, but I don't think recommending the user take action that would
bring about the rapid death of their USB drive is an acceptable alternative.

 And also I have read some articles giving more than thousand years of live 
 for 
 an USB pendrive been written several times a day.

Several times a day is not at all accurate when you're talking about a low
memory system using swap.

Don't take my word for it.  Google:

flash drive swap

Tell me what you find.

Ben
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