[UDD] Suspected problem of upload_history importer

2013-06-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

when doing my usual inspection of Debian Met packages under

  http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/bio#ampliconnoise

I stumbled upon the fact that for instance the package ampliconnoise is
featuring an uploader but the following package aragorn does not.  The
information boils down to the changed_by field inside the upload_history
table.  When checking UDD for both packages I get


udd= SELECT version, date, changed_by, maintainer from upload_history where 
source in ('aragorn', 'ampliconnoise') ;
 version |  date  |  changed_by  |  
  maintainer
-++--+--
 1.22-2  | 2011-05-03 22:04:09+00 | Steffen Moeller moel...@debian.org | 
Debian Med Packaging Team debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org
 1.25-1  | 2011-08-21 19:02:23+00 | Tim Booth tbo...@ceh.ac.uk | 
Debian Med Packaging Team debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org
(2 rows)


which is obviously missing the information for package aragorn.  This is
definitely no singular case because when looking at the link above there
are several random packages without showing any name mentioned inside
() behind the Debian Med Packaging Team maintainer but usually should.

Before I might dive deeper into this problem:  Is there any known trouble
with the importer for upload_history data that might lead to the fact that
not all packages are mentioned inside this table?

Kind regards

 Andreas.


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Re: [UDD] Suspected problem of upload_history importer

2013-06-13 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 13/06/13 at 09:46 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
 Hi,
 
 when doing my usual inspection of Debian Met packages under
 
   http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/bio#ampliconnoise
 
 I stumbled upon the fact that for instance the package ampliconnoise is
 featuring an uploader but the following package aragorn does not.  The
 information boils down to the changed_by field inside the upload_history
 table.  When checking UDD for both packages I get
 
 
 udd= SELECT version, date, changed_by, maintainer from upload_history where 
 source in ('aragorn', 'ampliconnoise') ;
  version |  date  |  changed_by  |
 maintainer
 -++--+--
  1.22-2  | 2011-05-03 22:04:09+00 | Steffen Moeller moel...@debian.org | 
 Debian Med Packaging Team debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org
  1.25-1  | 2011-08-21 19:02:23+00 | Tim Booth tbo...@ceh.ac.uk | 
 Debian Med Packaging Team debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org
 (2 rows)
 
 
 which is obviously missing the information for package aragorn.  This is
 definitely no singular case because when looking at the link above there
 are several random packages without showing any name mentioned inside
 () behind the Debian Med Packaging Team maintainer but usually should.
 
 Before I might dive deeper into this problem:  Is there any known trouble
 with the importer for upload_history data that might lead to the fact that
 not all packages are mentioned inside this table?

The upload_history is broken since I don't have a way to access
debian-devel-changes@ archives from UDD since master moved to
new-master.

In order to clarify that this importer is broken, I've just removed all
data in the upload_history table.

This has been discussed multiple times with DSA, but no solution has
been found yet.

This is tracked in #702085.

Lucas


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Re: [UDD] Suspected problem of upload_history importer

2013-06-13 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, 

On Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 10:29:33 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 On 13/06/13 at 09:46 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
 
 The upload_history is broken since I don't have a way to access
 debian-devel-changes@ archives from UDD since master moved to
 new-master.
 
 In order to clarify that this importer is broken, I've just removed all
 data in the upload_history table.
 
 This has been discussed multiple times with DSA, but no solution has
 been found yet.
 
 This is tracked in #702085.

you have also been told to work out a solution with ftp-master.

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Re: [UDD] Suspected problem of upload_history importer

2013-06-13 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 13/06/13 at 10:39 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 On Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 10:29:33 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
  On 13/06/13 at 09:46 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
  
  The upload_history is broken since I don't have a way to access
  debian-devel-changes@ archives from UDD since master moved to
  new-master.
  
  In order to clarify that this importer is broken, I've just removed all
  data in the upload_history table.
  
  This has been discussed multiple times with DSA, but no solution has
  been found yet.
  
  This is tracked in #702085.
 
 you have also been told to work out a solution with ftp-master.

The main discussions about this topic happened on March 2nd and March
28th on #debian-admin.

On March 2nd, I was asked to discuss with ftp-masters what needed to be
done on the dak side to provide historical data. I did that the same day
on #debian-ftp, and then sent
https://lists.debian.org/debian-dak/2013/03/msg0.html, which was
never answered.

On March 28th, I re-raised the topic on #debian-admin. Sligthly edited
log (to remove unrelated conversations) follows:
03/28/13 16:15:50 lucas One thing that is still broken is UDD's importer for 
history of uploads. that works by parsing debian-devel-changes@ archives. We 
would need a way to bring those archives from master to ullmann.
03/28/13 20:55:46@luca lucas: how did that work before master was moved?
03/28/13 20:57:10 lucas luca: the archives were processed locally, and the 
resulting files were downloaded over HTTP
03/28/13 20:57:24 lucas what broke that was the lack of httpd on master 
(which I understand)
03/28/13 20:58:29@luca so master could push them to ullmann?
03/28/13 21:19:44@zobel lucas: what is the status of the dak export of that 
needed information from ftp-master to udd?
03/28/13 21:20:01@zobel or do i mix up something here?
03/28/13 21:20:24 lucas zobel: no progress AFAIK
03/28/13 21:20:26 Ganneff no you dont, but as noone has put any work into it, 
the status is same like last time
03/28/13 21:21:19 lucas luca: master could push them, or, if you provided a 
script to sync them using a specific ssh key pair, that would work too
03/28/13 21:21:27 Ganneff üatches welcome, of course
03/28/13 21:21:39@luca lucas: however it seems that the arrangement is for 
dak to provide these?
03/28/13 21:21:51@luca lucas: rather than exporting from master
03/28/13 21:21:57 lucas luca: I don't have time to work on dak
03/28/13 21:21:58@luca lucas: based on what i just read
03/28/13 21:22:09 lucas luca: it seems that it won't happen if nobody has 
time to work on dak
03/28/13 21:22:15 Ganneff luca: someone needs to write the code. the export 
is easy, we just have to get the historical data into dak once.
03/28/13 21:22:29 Ganneff (and a new table in the db, but thats even simpler)
03/28/13 21:22:34 lucas luca: otoh, the code already exists and was 
functional to get that info from the mail archives
03/28/13 21:22:51 lucas luca: (the code for UDD)
03/28/13 21:23:55 lucas luca: so I think that a good compromise is to fix UDD 
ASAP by pushing or rsyncing the archives to ullmann, and switch to dak if the 
change happens there
03/28/13 21:29:43@luca seems like we need some master data management and an 
enterprise service bus ...
03/28/13 21:30:33@zobel lucas: so you need a script that parses mail on 
master, right?
03/28/13 21:30:47@zobel and import that data to udd?
03/28/13 21:30:50@luca dak - email - aggregator - website - wget - 
database seems more prone to data loss (emails do get lost) than dak - 
database - view - etl - table - database - udd
03/28/13 21:31:43 lucas zobel: not necessarily. I think that the easier would 
be to do all the processing on ullmann
03/28/13 21:32:00 lucas zobel: that is, push archives to ullmann. or even 
autosshfs them
03/28/13 21:32:40@zobel maybe Ganneff can add a mail address on ullman in dak 
config to be notified?
03/28/13 21:32:59@zobel baeh, i don't like that idea.
03/28/13 21:33:15 lucas can ullmann receive mail?
03/28/13 21:35:09@luca looks like zobel has this topic well in hand
03/28/13 21:35:28@zobel no.
03/28/13 21:35:40 lucas what's easier for you?
03/28/13 21:35:41@zobel i am currently debugging, where 25G are lost on 
beach.d.o
03/28/13 21:35:43@luca okay, then what are we doing?
03/28/13 21:35:53@luca well, this doesn't need solving this minute
03/28/13 21:35:59@zobel it needs.
03/28/13 21:36:07@zobel 630M left 
03/28/13 21:36:09@zobel only
03/28/13 21:36:17@luca my 'this' is udd
03/28/13 21:36:44@luca the dak-udd problem needs a solution that everyone 
agrees to
03/28/13 21:36:58@luca am i facilitating this conversation or you?
03/28/13 21:37:02@luca let me know, either way
03/28/13 21:37:05@luca no rush
03/28/13 21:37:20 Ganneff that would be generate in dak i think. i dislike 
the mail thing, but it would work.
03/28/13 21:37:32 Ganneff and would be easy, but then udd needs to receive 
those mails
03/28/13 21:37:52@zobel lucas: could you work out with Ganneff or ansgar how 
the 

Re: [PET / UDD] Missing teams in vcs table in UDD which should be covered by PET

2013-06-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Ansgar,

ping?
Please let me know if you need any additional information.

Kind regards

  Andreas.

On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 02:23:47PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
 On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 11:31:54 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
 
  I tried to use some PET information from UDD and checked for the existing 
  teams:
  
  udd=# SELECT team from vcs group by team;
team   
  -
   pkg-perl
   pkg-games
   pkg-ruby-extras
   debichem
   pkg-ocaml-maint
   pkg-multimedia
   pkg-osm
  
  
  When looking at the PET page[1] a lot more teams are listed.
 
 AFAIK, UDD takes the PET data from the PET postgresql database, and
 this database contains only / is only used by PET3; i.e. all teams
 using or having used PET(1) or PET2 won't be there.
 
  So it seems [1] is outdated. 
  [1] http://pet.alioth.debian.org/
 
 That's a safe bet :)
 
  Is it possible to support all these teams in PET database and can I provide 
  any
  additional information to let this happen?
 
 That's a question for Ansgar ...
  
 
 Cheers,
 gregor
 
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