Re: Installing Etch on Sun Ultra 2

2007-12-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 01:27:58AM +0100,
 Yannick Palanque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 27 lines which said:

 I have a Sun Ultra (Enterprise) 2 and I would like to install Etch
 on it.

It should work.

 I'm sure I will need TFP, ok.

TFTP, yes.

 Whose is the best for Etch, a UltraSparc II and a beginner? I think
 of DHCP.

Certainly (RARP and BOOTP are historic.)

 The PC from which I'll send the boot image is connected to a router.
 I think I'll need to connect it directly to the Sun station? Am I
 wrong?

Partly. Things are simpler when the server and your Sun are on the
same network (there is absolutely no need to be directly connected,
but I'm not sure of what you mean by that). But DHCP can be relayed by
some routers (for a Cisco/IOS, see
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6350/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00804412bf.html).


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Re: Installing Etch on Sun Ultra 2

2007-12-06 Thread Yannick Palanque
Thank you for your answers. ;-)

2007-12-06T11:39:04+0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  The PC from which I'll send the boot image is connected to a router.
  I think I'll need to connect it directly to the Sun station? Am I
  wrong?
 
 Partly. Things are simpler when the server and your Sun are on the
 same network (there is absolutely no need to be directly connected,
 but I'm not sure of what you mean by that).

Here is a schematic, I think it'll be clearer.

+--+
| Cable Modem  |
+--+---+
   |
   |
   |
+--+---+ 
|Router| +--+
+--+--+--+--+--+ + Sun Ultra 2  +--+ s
   |  |  +--+  | e
   |  || r
   |  |  +--+  | i
   |  +--+ATHLON+--+ a
+--+---+ +--+l
|   Pentium 4  |
+--+

By connect directly, I mean connecting the Athlon and the Sun by
Ethernet without the intermediary of the router...

But DHCP can be relayed by
some routers

...because I don't think mine can do that.


Cordially,
Yannick Palanque


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Re: Installing Etch on Sun Ultra 2

2007-12-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 03:26:38PM +0100,
 Yannick Palanque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 47 lines which said:

 Here is a schematic, I think it'll be clearer.

The Sun seems connected only by a serial cable? It has no Ethernet
card? In that case, I believe it's over, I do not think the Sparc can
boot over a serial line.

 By connect directly, I mean connecting the Athlon and the Sun by
 Ethernet without the intermediary of the router...

Sorry, but this sentence does not seem to match the diagram. You mean
the Pentium, not the Athlon? Which one is the DHCP server?
 
 But DHCP can be relayed by some routers
 
 ...because I don't think mine can do that.

Therefore, installing the Sparc on the same Ethernet as the DHCP
server is the only solution.


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Re: Installing Etch on Sun Ultra 2

2007-12-06 Thread Yannick Palanque
2007-12-06T15:51:36+0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The Sun seems connected only by a serial cable? It has no Ethernet
 card?

Yes it has, I didn't draw the cable because it isn't connected yet, but
the Sun has an Ethernet card, see the + at his left... :-°

  By connect directly, I mean connecting the Athlon and the Sun by
  Ethernet without the intermediary of the router...
 
 Sorry, but this sentence does not seem to match the diagram. You mean
 the Pentium, not the Athlon? Which one is the DHCP server?

Yes, I mean the Athlon. Currently, the only DHCP server is the router.

I'm sure I make not myself clear.
If you speak french, as I believe, maybe I could clarify my thoughts in
private, so this list would only receive the interesting part of this
conversation.

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Re: Installing Etch on Sun Ultra 2

2007-12-06 Thread Peter Rohrer
Am Donnerstag, 6. Dezember 2007 17:07 schrieb Yannick Palanque:
 2007-12-06T15:51:36+0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   By connect directly, I mean connecting the Athlon and the Sun
   by Ethernet without the intermediary of the router...
 
  Sorry, but this sentence does not seem to match the diagram. You
  mean the Pentium, not the Athlon? Which one is the DHCP server?

 Yes, I mean the Athlon. Currently, the only DHCP server is the
 router.

In a perfect World, you would be able to set up the DHCP server on the 
router in a way it serves the Ultra 2 with all needed Information (IP, 
Network, Netmask, default gateway, IP of the TFTP Bootserver). 
Unfortunately, this is most likely not the case.
So I would set up DHCP on the computer you also use for TFTP file 
serving. If you want to be on the save side, connect this computer 
directly to the Sun (You may need a crossed Ethernetcable). After the 
Sun has bootet and you are in the installer, you can connect the the 
sun directly to the router.
You could also disable the DHCP-Server on the router and connect both 
the Sun and the PC with the DHCP/TFTP-Server to the router. Consumer 
class routers often only route between the internet and a built-in 
switch, so all ports on the Lan-side are on the same switch.

Have Fun

Peter


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