Re: Mousepad Not Saving Prefs
On Mon, 18 May 2015 17:52:47 +0200 Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se wrote: On Mon, 2015-05-18 at 11:31 -0400, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: Hi list, I'm running Debian Stretch/testing (updated daily). I use Xfce4 and Mousepad as my GUI text editor. It seems that Mousepad is no longer saving my preferences. [...] Any ideas on how to investigate this? Looks like mousepad uses dconf for settings, so it could be a problem with that. I've been unable to figure out why this is happening. I've tried to investigate myself, but I don't know anything about the dconf system. I've filed a bug report. pgptbjUcOqpm2.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: diferença entre sh e ./
Boa Noite , eu fiz os testes que o @listeiro propôs e realmente ficou bem esclarecido , essa questão das Shells Obrigado a todos ! Em 23 de maio de 2015 03:20, Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Tenho a proposta de um exercício se você topar e tiver um tempo. Experimenta apagar a primeira linha com she-bang do script (deixar a linha em branco) e põe ele prá rodar: 1) com ./script 1) com sh script 2) com sh ./script 3) com bash script 4) com bash ./script Depois você elimina a permissão de escrita com um chmod -x script e refazestes testes, executando. Depois você digita sh no prompt e aperta enter prá entrar no dash e refaz os testes. A variável $PATH de seu ambiente terminal possui vários diretórios de arquivos binários para a execução. Diretórios como /bin /usr/bin e se você for root também terá /sbin e /usr/sbin e outros como /usr/local/bin podem entrar nessa lista. Para confirmar basta você executar um echo $PATH e irá ver como está sua variável PATH de busca de caminhos de execução. Agora se você adicionar no seu $PATH um caminho para seu diretório /home/usuario (supondo seu usuário ter o nome de usuario), então o script rodará sem o ./ para você. Ele rodará que nem um ls, que não precisa de um /bin/ls prá rodar como o script precisa de um ./script para rodar. Não é recomendado colocar na variável PATH o diretório home por questões de segurança (até onde sei, pelo que aprendi). Continue executando comandos dentro de home com ./ Em Sat, 23 May 2015 00:04:40 -0300 Tiago Pigazao piga...@gmail.com escreveu: então independente do que for usado na execução sh ou ./ ele de certa forma não vai considerar aquele sha-bang do inicio #!bin/bash ? Em 22 de maio de 2015 23:34, Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Olá. sh é um link em /bin/sh. No Debiian aponta para /bin/dash. Dash é uma implementação do Almqvist Shell (ash) para o Debian. É shell diferente do Bash. ./ executa o script com shell do ambiente Dash entende as coisas diferentes do que Bash entende. São como que linguagens de scripts diferentes. Por isso é que há uma orientação prá se escrever scripts que funcionem não apenas com bash ou zsh, mas com csh, ksh, dash e muitos outros. No caso do if há dois comandos prá serem usados junto com ele chamado expr e test. Uma versão do seu script para Dash seria: #!/bin/sh for var in $(seq 100) ; do if test $(expr $var % 2) -eq 0 then echo $var fi ; done Em Fri, 22 May 2015 23:04:25 -0300 Tiago Pigazao piga...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa noite Pessoal alguem sabe, qual é a diferença de se executar um shell script com sh ou com ./ ? estou com o seguinte cenário.. tenho um script com permissão de execução ok , ao executar com sh ele não funciona (da problema na linha do if), agora se executar com ./ funciona ok... segue script abaixo : #!/bin/bash for var in $(seq 100) ; do if (( $var % 2 == 0 )) then echo $var fi ; done -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/887903.3626...@smtp234.mail.gq1.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/983881.16648...@smtp233.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: CLI download interface/tool for Google Images?
On 05/23/2015 09:55 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se writes: I have seen a couple of different scripts that scrape the image search, for example: https://github.com/tytek2012/givemepics That didn't work, and the style of the program including the documentation tells me it isn't mature in more than one sense of the word... Feel free to mature it and show us what you call a mature piece of code. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5560fd59.1000...@rktmb.org
Re: [OT] 2 dhcp server on same lan
Eike Lantzsch wrote: DHCP failover on a small network does not seem to be worth the effort, except for training purposes. Exactly that is why this thread was very informative for me. Just for kicks (training) I was trying for a while to set up two dhcp servers on my network. One OpenBSD on a router and the other on Debian arm isc-dhcp-server on a cubietruck. Training is almost always worth the effort as long as something is learned in the process. One sends sync messages and the other connects to ip-ports - duh! The philosophy of OpenBSD dhcp seems to be really wide area networks not being on the same premises and isc-dhcp seems to be better fitted for LAN. Now I know that my endeavours are futile. They were not futile. You learned something from them. Therefore the effort had good value. The synchronization between two OpenBSD dhcp servers and the failover isc-dhcp-server are essentially different and do not work together. Either 2 * isc-dhcp-server (which is available for OpenBSD as a package) or 2 * OpenBSD dhcp servers (which does not exist for the armv7l cubietruck) = need another machine or maquinita. Even better you shared your experience with the mailing list and allowed me to learn something too. I am completely unfamiliar with the OpenBSD dhcp daemon but now I know a little more about it. (I use the ISC dhcp software.) Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Postfix comportement étrange
Le 23/05/2015 18:47, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit : Le 23/05/15 à 14:03, Samuel debian-user-french-2...@ingescom.com a écrit : S Je ne vois pas comment utiliser username_field pour récupérer et S l'alias et le user dans 2 tables différentes. S S Si j'ai bien compris que c'est à ce niveau qu'il faut intervenir. Probable, je connais pas ta structure de table, tu dois écrire une requete sql qui sorte login ou alias dans un seul champ, et tu utilise cette requete dans postfix, sans toucher aux requetes déjà écrites pour dovecot. On est bien d'accord, c'est dans postfix qu'il faut agir ... intervenir dans dovecot complique la chose. Si t'es pas à l'aise avec des if dans le select, tu peux indiquer 2 requetes dans ta conf postfix cle = mysql:/path/to/recup_users.cf, mysql:/path/to/recup_alias.cf et tu regarde la doc pour la syntaxe de ces fichier cf, c'est du genre user = xxx password = xxx hosts = xxx dbname = xxx query = SELECT champ FROM table WHERE autreChamp = '%s' Le %s dépend de cle (ça peut être une adresse, un domaine, suivant le contexte), ce que tu doit remonter dépend aussi du contexte. C'est ce que j'ai utilisé : accéder directement au contenu de la table quota via pré-sélection dans table users et forwards : smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_recipient_access mysql:check_quota ... check_quota_query = select if(bytes'12582912', '552 5.2.2 Quota exceeded (mailbox for user is full)', 'PERMIT') from quota where email = '%u@%d' or email=(select destination from forwards where source='%u@%d') Et c'est vrai que cette rustine fonctionne bien ... mais sur une Jessie, dans le fichier /etc/dovecot/conf.d/90-quota.conf, il est mentionné cette page qui concerne l'utilisation du service quota-status pour postfix : https://sys4.de/de/blog/2013/04/08/postfix-dovecot-mailbox-quota/ Cette page donne cette commande pour interroger ce service (port 12340) depuis postfix : smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:12340 Mon problème est que cette commande envoie en variable l'alias en valeur finale (qui n'existe pas dans la table quota de postfix - unknown user) et non pas le user final (après mapping de l'alias). Ma question était donc de savoir comment interroger un service via cette commande de postfix en choississant sa variable à envoyer. Je n'arrive pas à lier le check_policy_service inet à une requête SQL, ni même comment passer une variable en valeur. La rustine employée fonctionne bien, mais je me demandais comment faire fonctionner la méthode telle que conseillée dans les fichiers de conf sur Jessie ... Merci. Samuel. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5560bf4a.5080...@ingescom.com
Re: KVM switch: DVI-D, DVI-I or vga?
On 05/23/2015 07:30 AM, German wrote: I am shopping locally here for a good KVM switch. For now, I am not even sure what type should I get. What are advantages to have DVI instead of VGA interface? Are there any justifications in price? VGA KVM is about $20, where is DVI is $100. If money is no object, DVI KVM is better than VGA? Thanks for all info you can share. I run and work on many different makes and models of PC-compatible computers. VGA and PS/2 are the lowest-common-denominator interfaces -- especially for servers, retail point of sale, and business desktops. So, I have an 8-port KVM with VGA and PS/2 connectors, and a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to match. I use various PS/2-to-USB, DVI-I-to-VGA, DisplayPort-to-VGA, etc., adapters at the computer end of the KVM cables. I don't use USB or microphones through the KVM. I use a passive line-level mixer for speakers. Determining compatibility before making a purchase is tough. Hardware tends to be identified by product manufacturer name and model number, while software (device drivers) tends to be identified by chip manufacturer name and part number. After searching and reading whatever you can, you will need to buy a KVM, plug it in, and find out for yourself. Make sure you buy the KVM through a vendor that will allow you to use it for a week or two, and return it if you don't like it. I went through several KVM's before finding one (IOGEAR GCS78) that worked reliably with Windows and Linux, and put the hotkeys where they didn't interfere with other applications (notably games). David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5560c468.1010...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El día 20 de mayo de 2015, 17:23, CZOMCA czo...@gmail.com escribió: Saludos a todos: A mi tampoco me arranca después de instalar el 8.0 y veo que el hilo creado anteriormente se ha quedado parado. Puedo añadir que aunque con el 7.8 también tenia nouveau, lo he sustituido por el driver de nvidia y tampoco arranca. He instalado MATE en vez de Gnome y tampoco arranca Tampoco me arranca un DVD con Ubuntu 15.04 Pero si arranca y funciona con Gnome en recovery mode. ¿Alguien sabría decirme algo al respecto? Es posible que se esté atascando en la inicialización de algún dispositivo o en el chequeo de los discos. Si esperas un tiempo largo y no arranca, en el próximo reinicio en en modo recovery podrás intentar ver los logs del proceso de inicio anterior con el comando: journalctl -b -1 S2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGw=rhilk1pp+wix3b2n48j5ws7s5bxc_htfo3e+8k1_uxo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Jessie LVM2 et LUKS, problème pour activer le TRIM.
Hello, Adrien Dewulf a écrit : Merci pour le lien. J'ai déjà réalisé la configuration qu'il présent. Mais quand j'exécute # fstrim -v /home fstrim: /home: the discard operation is not supported Et avec fstrim -v / ? As tu bien mis les issue/allow-discards pour cette partition? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGKqBrmCA7=n_JjNDmCNvhL+gFJzhBHeu7Qx=eymcnfacxm...@mail.gmail.com
test if fan is working
hello, How can I test if my fan is working in Debian?, thanks, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1432411314.3937272.276553953.0ae38...@webmail.messagingengine.com
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El día 23 de mayo de 2015, 22:13, CZOMCA czo...@gmail.com escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 19:19 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:25:47 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Es decir, que puedes estar trabajando normalmente con gnome-shell sin problemas ¿es así? Si es así, ya no se trata de un problema de gnome-shell ni de la gráfica ni del kernel, hay que averiguar por qué no se carga el gestor de sesiones (GDM) al iniciar. Bien, pues inicia en modo rescate y accede a una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell, vete a una consola y como root ejecuta journalctl -b log.txt y sube a www.pastebin.com el archivo completo (lo tendrás en /root/ log.txt). Saludos, -- Camaleón Ya esta. El usuario es czomca1. Que te sea leve. Saludos Si arrancas en modo rescate no se produce la situación de error, por lo que no vas a ver nada. haz como te comenté en un mensaje anterior. Arranca de forma que se produzca el fallo, reinicia y mira a ver el log de la sesión anterior con journalctl -b -1 S2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGw=rHj3iqfwjjC=vqz47qoscra823lgw8oftwwvjzj_ihu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problem Running Application with Alias
Petter Adsen wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:36:31 -0400
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
This is an obvious thing that jumps out at me, this line should be:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mopac:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
as LD_LIBRARY_PATH is meant to contain directories where shared
libraries can be found, not an executable binary.
I have a small comment concerning the syntax. I am sure you are
correct about the problem. But both of those assume that
$LD_LIBRARY_PATH already exists in the environment. If it does then
fine. Let me use foo as a stand-in for the explanation.
$ foo=/bar
$ foo=/opt/somepath:$foo
$ echo $foo
/opt/somepath:/bar
But if it does not exist then it leaves the environment variable with
a hanging colon at the end.
$ unset foo
$ foo=/opt/somepath:$foo
$ echo $foo
/opt/somepath:
That is bad and actually has been argued is a security consideration
in other paths such as PATH.
To avoid that the following shell syntax is typically used.
$ foo=/bar
$ foo=/opt/somepath${foo+:$foo}
$ echo $foo
/opt/somepath:/bar
$ unset foo
$ foo=/opt/somepath${foo+:$foo}
$ echo $foo
/opt/somepath
Or to append to the end of the path put the colon on the other side.
$ foo=/bar
$ foo=${foo+$foo:}/opt/somepath
$ echo $foo
/bar:/opt/somepath
$ unset foo
$ foo=${foo+$foo:}/opt/somepath
$ echo $foo
/opt/somepath
The dash documentation on this standard shell feature is:
${parameter:+word}Use Alternative Value. If parameter is unset or
null, null is substituted; otherwise, the expansion
of word is substituted.
In the parameter expansions shown previously, use of the colon in the
format results in a test for a parameter that is unset or null; omission
of the colon results in a test for a parameter that is only unset.
The form without the colon is correct for path handling so that it
maintains the state in the case that the variable was already set to
an empty value indicating the current working directory.
$ foo=
$ foo=${foo+$foo:}/opt/somepath
$ echo $foo
:/opt/somepath
Note however that an empty path indicating using the current working
directory is almost never desirable. In the case of LD_LIBRARY_PATH
one would never want to have it set to an empty value.
Bob
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Re: test if fan is working
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 01:01:54PM -0700, Anil Duggirala wrote: hello, How can I test if my fan is working in Debian?, thanks, I've installed the xsensors package. It continually reports the RPM of three fans. Would this do? Haines Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523201614.gd30...@engels.historicalmaterialism.info
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 22:20 +0200, fernando sainz escribió: El día 23 de mayo de 2015, 22:13, CZOMCA czo...@gmail.com escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 19:19 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:25:47 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Es decir, que puedes estar trabajando normalmente con gnome-shell sin problemas ¿es así? Si es así, ya no se trata de un problema de gnome-shell ni de la gráfica ni del kernel, hay que averiguar por qué no se carga el gestor de sesiones (GDM) al iniciar. Bien, pues inicia en modo rescate y accede a una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell, vete a una consola y como root ejecuta journalctl -b log.txt y sube a www.pastebin.com el archivo completo (lo tendrás en /root/ log.txt). Saludos, -- Camaleón Ya esta. El usuario es czomca1. Que te sea leve. Saludos Si arrancas en modo rescate no se produce la situación de error, por lo que no vas a ver nada. haz como te comenté en un mensaje anterior. Arranca de forma que se produzca el fallo, reinicia y mira a ver el log de la sesión anterior con journalctl -b -1 S2. Lo siento porque lo hago como tu dices, pero al dar comando que tu dices responde que la dirección -1 no puede ser asignada. Es verdad que el listado corresponde a la última entrada, o sea a la recovery mode, pero con tu comando no se obtiene la anterior. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1432414707.3429.2.camel@Mortadelo
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
Hola. Lo que voy a comentar me sucedió en testing, así que no se si aplica a este caso, pero quizás tes sirve de guía. El 23/05/15 a las 16:28, CZOMCA escibió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 22:20 +0200, fernando sainz escribió: El día 23 de mayo de 2015, 22:13, CZOMCA czo...@gmail.com escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 19:19 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:25:47 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Es decir, que puedes estar trabajando normalmente con gnome-shell sin problemas ¿es así? Si es así, ya no se trata de un problema de gnome-shell ni de la gráfica ni del kernel, hay que averiguar por qué no se carga el gestor de sesiones (GDM) al iniciar. Bien, pues inicia en modo rescate y accede a una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell, vete a una consola y como root ejecuta journalctl -b log.txt y sube a www.pastebin.com el archivo completo (lo tendrás en /root/ log.txt). Saludos, -- Camaleón Ya esta. El usuario es czomca1. Que te sea leve. Saludos Si arrancas en modo rescate no se produce la situación de error, por lo que no vas a ver nada. haz como te comenté en un mensaje anterior. Arranca de forma que se produzca el fallo, reinicia y mira a ver el log de la sesión anterior con journalctl -b -1 S2. Lo siento porque lo hago como tu dices, pero al dar comando que tu dices responde que la dirección -1 no puede ser asignada. Es verdad que el listado corresponde a la última entrada, o sea a la recovery mode, pero con tu comando no se obtiene la anterior. En una de las actualizaciones comenzó a fallar todo lo que fuera gnome (shell o clásico), sin embargo podía entrar con plasma de kde. Al día siguiente, ayer, cuando iba determinado a resolver el problema ya no arrancaba ni con kde, pero al igual que tu si podía entrar en modo recovery. Quiero hacer notar que en mi caso, aún cuando no veía nada, podía acceder a los terminales con cntl + alt + Fn y aunque no veía podía emitir comandos para hacer reboot y cosas así. Luego se me ocurrió instalar en modo recovery LXDE y así me funcionó. Navegando un poco por la red encontré un viejo bug relacionado con los gráficos intel y el kernel por lo que decidí instalar el kernel 3.16.0-4 y se solucionó. En realidad no se que le paso al kernel anterior (3.10-2). Espero que puedas solucionarlo. Saludos. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5560ef61.9010...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El día 23 de mayo de 2015, 23:14, CZOMCA czo...@gmail.com escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 22:20 +0200, fernando sainz escribió: El día 23 de mayo de 2015, 22:13, CZOMCA czo...@gmail.com escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 19:19 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:25:47 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Es decir, que puedes estar trabajando normalmente con gnome-shell sin problemas ¿es así? Si es así, ya no se trata de un problema de gnome-shell ni de la gráfica ni del kernel, hay que averiguar por qué no se carga el gestor de sesiones (GDM) al iniciar. Bien, pues inicia en modo rescate y accede a una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell, vete a una consola y como root ejecuta journalctl -b log.txt y sube a www.pastebin.com el archivo completo (lo tendrás en /root/ log.txt). Saludos, -- Camaleón Ya esta. El usuario es czomca1. Que te sea leve. Saludos Si arrancas en modo rescate no se produce la situación de error, por lo que no vas a ver nada. haz como te comenté en un mensaje anterior. Arranca de forma que se produzca el fallo, reinicia y mira a ver el log de la sesión anterior con journalctl -b -1 S2. He utilizado la opción --list-boots y resulta que solo hay un boot, el cero que corresponde a la entrada en recovery mode. Con este metodo no se puede ver el log de la sesion anterior. Saludos. Vale, hay que configurar el sistema para que guarde logs. mira el man de: JOURNALD.CONF(5) y el fichero /etc/systemd/journald.conf S2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGw=rHgQtbMUorWZMj-MQMj2F2KNe305sk=4TSe8AGA_=kg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian
On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:04:55 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). Going to abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be very portable in the next year or two. Two questions to begin: 1. Many laptops seem to only be able to turn off Secure Boot through the OS, Windows 8.x, or so I've researched. However, I've read some makes (Asus, Lenovo, Dell and HP) can do it directly through BIOS without needing to boot Windows? True? Any others? I don't have a laptop myself (don't like them), but every one I've seen so far has had a switch to disable Secure Boot in the BIOS. AFAIK, that switch is mandatory to adhere to the Built For Windows 8 MS program, although it is only optional for the coming Windows 10 program. That might be something to watch out for. I've read about that, but right now until W10 in its final form is release, nobody really knows for sure. Well, yes and no. We *do* know that the status has changed from mandatory to optional, but whether hardware manufacturers will actually remove the ability to turn Secure Boot off remains to be seen. Yes. I read that. Wonder what Microsoft has up its sleeve? Maybe, this is indicative of W10 being even more insecure than previous Windows' OSes. If this is going to become a real problem or not, we will just have to wait and see. 2. How UEFI compatible is Debian Wheezy? What I'm running on the Desktop. Or is Jessie the better choice. Or something else entirely? Except Ubuntu variants (Hate it!). I don't want to run in Legacy mode for future compatibility. I won't be installing a desktop, just a window manager. Probably Openbox. You can find details here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch03s06.html.en#UEFI Yes, I read that during my initial research. I believe the Canonical people have put some effort into becoming fully Secure Boot-compliant, but if you do not like them, then that is not an option. There are also others (RedHat?) but I can't remember who. That compatibility comes from the Linux manufacturer buying a Microsoft Secure Boot key which Canonical and RH have. SUSE, too, I think. Don't know how much that costs them. I prefer not to have Linux under Microsoft's thumb that way. I absolutely agree. I have no problems with turning Secure Boot off and leaving it off. It's just that I fear that in the future one won't be able to turn it off. And that will really throw a wrench in the Linux community. We'll see. The Linux Foundation is also examining the possibility of obtaining a key that can be used to sign images for distributions (free of charge), and there is also work being done on signing a shim that will launch a real bootloader. As the Perl people lovingly remind us, there's more than one way to do it :) Where there's a will, there's a way I suppose. Although, instead of a patch or shim, the threat of a class action lawsuit by Linux developers might be more effective. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523124610.3b20e...@debian7.boseck208.net
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 19:19 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:25:47 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Es decir, que puedes estar trabajando normalmente con gnome-shell sin problemas ¿es así? Si es así, ya no se trata de un problema de gnome-shell ni de la gráfica ni del kernel, hay que averiguar por qué no se carga el gestor de sesiones (GDM) al iniciar. Bien, pues inicia en modo rescate y accede a una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell, vete a una consola y como root ejecuta journalctl -b log.txt y sube a www.pastebin.com el archivo completo (lo tendrás en /root/ log.txt). Saludos, -- Camaleón Ya esta. El usuario es czomca1. Que te sea leve. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1432411981.3457.2.camel@Mortadelo
Re: NAS con WD MyCloud
buenas tardes yo uso un iomega de 1TB y mi fstab es el siguiente //10.10.10.104/Movies /home/eddroot/PUBLICO/VIDEOS cifs username=admin,password=X,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0 //10.10.10.104/Pictures /home/eddroot/PUBLICO/FOTOS cifs username=admin,password=X,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0 //10.10.10.104/Documents /home/eddroot/PUBLICO/DOCUMENTOS cifs username=admin,password=X,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0 //10.10.10.104/Music /home/eddroot/PUBLICO/MUSICAS cifs username=admin,password=X,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0 //10.10.10.104/Backups /home/eddroot/PUBLICO/RESPALDOS cifs username=admin,password=XX,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777 0 0 BASICAMENTE //IPNAS/NOMBREDELRECUROSCOMPARTIDO (RUTA DONDE QUIERE COLOCARLO DEBE EXISTIR LA CARPETA EN SO) FILE SYSTEM USUARIO PASSWORD PERMISOS 0 0 instala samba y cifs-utils por ultimo como root mount -a para forzar que monte los fs Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd El 22 de mayo de 2015, 13:57, Juan jawif...@gmail.com escribió: El 22/05/2015 a las 14:55, Gerardo Diez García escribió: http://web.mit.edu/rhel-doc/4/RH-DOCS/rhel-rg-es-4/s1-nfs-server-export.html - para compartir por NFS http://web.mit.edu/rhel-doc/4/RH-DOCS/rhel-rg-es-4/s1-nfs-client-config.html - para los clientes (es la página que abre pinchando Siguiente en el enlace anterior, pero por si acaso) Son links para Red Hat / Fedora / Centos, por eso no se si me van a servir. Los vi ayer, son los primeros que aparecen al buscar en español, pero como no son especificos de Debian, no sabía si me sirven. Ya que puedes usar ssh. Lo mismo hasta te interesa usar ssh para montar las carpetas http://blockdeubuntu.blogspot.com.es/2010/07/como-montar-carpetas-remotamente-con.html Este es el proximo paso. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/555f74f9.8090...@gmail.com
Re: Fwd: rc.local and systemd
Rainer Dorsch wrote: Nevertheless I am still wondering why it has the failed status, rc.local has an hard exit 0 return code (?) : Look at the first line of /etc/rc.local script. rd@nanette:/etc$ cat rc.local #!/bin/sh -e The set -e ^^ here is what sets the -e flag for the shell. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 22:20 +0200, fernando sainz escribió: El día 23 de mayo de 2015, 22:13, CZOMCA czo...@gmail.com escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 19:19 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:25:47 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Es decir, que puedes estar trabajando normalmente con gnome-shell sin problemas ¿es así? Si es así, ya no se trata de un problema de gnome-shell ni de la gráfica ni del kernel, hay que averiguar por qué no se carga el gestor de sesiones (GDM) al iniciar. Bien, pues inicia en modo rescate y accede a una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell, vete a una consola y como root ejecuta journalctl -b log.txt y sube a www.pastebin.com el archivo completo (lo tendrás en /root/ log.txt). Saludos, -- Camaleón Ya esta. El usuario es czomca1. Que te sea leve. Saludos Si arrancas en modo rescate no se produce la situación de error, por lo que no vas a ver nada. haz como te comenté en un mensaje anterior. Arranca de forma que se produzca el fallo, reinicia y mira a ver el log de la sesión anterior con journalctl -b -1 S2. He utilizado la opción --list-boots y resulta que solo hay un boot, el cero que corresponde a la entrada en recovery mode. Con este metodo no se puede ver el log de la sesion anterior. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1432415659.3442.2.camel@Mortadelo
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El 23/05/15 a las 16:44, CZOMCA escibió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 22:20 +0200, fernando sainz escribió: El día 23 de mayo de 2015, 22:13, CZOMCA czo...@gmail.com escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 19:19 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:25:47 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Es decir, que puedes estar trabajando normalmente con gnome-shell sin problemas ¿es así? Si es así, ya no se trata de un problema de gnome-shell ni de la gráfica ni del kernel, hay que averiguar por qué no se carga el gestor de sesiones (GDM) al iniciar. Bien, pues inicia en modo rescate y accede a una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell, vete a una consola y como root ejecuta journalctl -b log.txt y sube a www.pastebin.com el archivo completo (lo tendrás en /root/ log.txt). Saludos, -- Camaleón Ya esta. El usuario es czomca1. Que te sea leve. Saludos Si arrancas en modo rescate no se produce la situación de error, por lo que no vas a ver nada. haz como te comenté en un mensaje anterior. Arranca de forma que se produzca el fallo, reinicia y mira a ver el log de la sesión anterior con journalctl -b -1 S2. He utilizado la opción --list-boots y resulta que solo hay un boot, el cero que corresponde a la entrada en recovery mode. Con este metodo no se puede ver el log de la sesion anterior. Saludos. Disculpapero ¿no puedes ejecutar el viejo #cat /var/log/syslog? A mi todavía me funciona, de hecho cuando tenía el problema lo ejecuté redireccionando la salida a otro archivo en mi /home, así como lo hice con el log Xorg.0.log. Claro lo tuve que hacer a ciegas y luego en modo recovery vi la salida. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5560f3dd.3060...@gmail.com
Re: CLI download interface/tool for Google Images?
Mihamina Rakotomandimby mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org writes: Feel free to mature it and show us what you call a mature piece of code. I don't have to show a lamer like you anything. The reason I call it immature as a program is that it outputs it logo using Unicode chars for no reason (especially not recommended for a CLI program); it output strings one char at a time which is irritating and absolutely not called for in this type of application the reason for which is speed and convenience; it creates a directory with the name tmp instead of using the input data to make a name; it doesn't work; and, it has the following line in the documentation: gmp hot chicks drinking beer. *plonk* -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87617izwxu@debian.uxu
Re: KVM switch: DVI-D, DVI-I or vga?
On 05/23/2015 12:26 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: There is, in my opinion, a significant difference in visual quality between the digital and analog display feeds. I have one machine that can do dual-head. The primary display feed starts as analog DVI-I, is adapted to VGA, goes into the VGA KVM, and then goes into the VGA port of a consumer 22 LED LCD monitor. The secondary display feed starts as DisplayPort (digital), is converted to VGA, and then goes into the VGA port of an older 22 LCD monitor: 1. The primary image looks pretty good for desktop/ server stuff, but shows its shortcomings with LCD monitor test images: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ 2. The secondary image is not as good as the primary, and the flourescent backlight causes nasty flickering on some of the test images. 3. The motherboard and secondary monitor both have DVI-D ports. If I change the secondary display feed to DVI-D (digital), I don't see *any* difference in the image quality (including flickering). 4. Changing the secondary display feed back to analog, I don't see *any* difference. I can only conclude that there is no difference in image quality between analog and digital display feeds. But, there is a big difference in analog (VGA) vs. digital (DVI) KVM product offerings and prices: 1. My IOGEAR 8-port VGA PS/2 KVM with cables (analog) is $159 on Amazon. 2. For comparison with the digital product, the 8-port VGA KVMP (adds PS/2 or USB connectivity and two shared USB ports) is $364 with cables. 3. The DVI KVMP is $679. While USB or PS/2 connectivity is nice, USB to PS/2 adapters are only $14 each. I don't want or need shared USB peripherals. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5561110a.8060...@holgerdanske.com
Re: test if fan is working
Ive installed the xsensors package as well, it only shows me 2 temperature readings, temp1 and core 0, cant see any rpm (Im running lxde). Is there a way for me to manually turn the fan on? thanks, On Sat, May 23, 2015, at 01:16 PM, Haines Brown wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 01:01:54PM -0700, Anil Duggirala wrote: hello, How can I test if my fan is working in Debian?, thanks, I've installed the xsensors package. It continually reports the RPM of three fans. Would this do? Haines Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523201614.gd30...@engels.historicalmaterialism.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1432425565.3982839.276634817.57c2e...@webmail.messagingengine.com
Jessie LVM2 et LUKS, problème pour activer le TRIM.
Hello, Pour le fstrim sur la racine c'est le même résultat, je le fais sur mon /home parce que c'est cette partition qui est full. Par-contre, si tu pouvais détailler un peu plus le issue/allow-discards. J'ai repris le details des configuration que j'ai effectué dans le premier mail. Merci Addew On 23 May 2015 21:48, Gaël gag...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Adrien Dewulf a écrit : Merci pour le lien. J'ai déjà réalisé la configuration qu'il présent. Mais quand j'exécute # fstrim -v /home fstrim: /home: the discard operation is not supported Et avec fstrim -v / ? As tu bien mis les issue/allow-discards pour cette partition? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cagkqbrmca7n_jjndmcnvhl+gfjzhbheu7qxeymcnfacxm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: sistema operacional Debian linux
Thiago Zoroastro disse: ...Software livre não é para ser gratuito, pois se fosse não seria livrepara ganhar dinheiro com isto... Esta fala é um tiro no pé. A liberdade zero da FSL diz que: - A liberdade de executar o programa como você desejar, para qualquer propósito (liberdade 0). Ora, seu eu não posso ou não quero comprar um SL comercial, como posso executa-lo? Você não fornece sem receber o pagamento. Então, esta fala é um tiro no pé porque fere a liberdade zero.Ou seu conceito está errado, ou sua fala está errada ... as coisas não podem estar corretas. Obs. eu sei que o código é aberto, mas de nada adianta isso, se não posso compra-lo para executar e satisfazer a liberdade zero. I De: Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org; lipehdez...@gmail.com Enviadas: Sábado, 23 de Maio de 2015 10:17 Assunto: Re: sistema operacional Debian linux Eai Felipe, Debian é chamado de 'sistema operacional universal', e a vasto conteúdo acerca disso dificulta responder sem que lance mão das fontes sendo muito mais fácil dispor o que você quer. De alguma forma ou outra o que é gerado pelo Debian está mais próximo das pessoas que imaginam. Ao meu ver, o Debian é uma variante do sistema operacional Gnu/Linux, mas Gnu e Linux são ao mesmo tempo coisas distintas do Debian como 'oranizações independentes e autônomas'. Software livre não é para ser gratuito, pois se fosse não seria lvire para ganhar dinheiro com isto. As pessoas pagam o quê, quando e quanto querem. Software livre é uma multiplicidade de comunidades, arquiteturas e iniciativas interdependentes, que se ajudam o desenvolvem software com direitos autorais rígidos, mas pelo Copyleft. Quer dizer que não é domínio público, mas sim que os proprietários dão autorização prévia a outros potenciais autores interferirem, corrigirem, melhorarem e atualizarem os softwares, com liberdade. E Debian é uma organização mundial de pessoas que se associam meio que voluntariamente para desenvolver software livre. A Google é uma empresa que utiliza algo derivado disto, seja com uma parte advindo do Debian ou não. O sistema Android é linux, e o AppStore (ou PlayStore ou GooglePlay) é uma derivação do Central de Programas do Ubuntu. O Ubuntu é um sistema operacional derivado do Debian, e o sistema para computadores da Google é derivado do Ubuntu, sendo assim, provavelmente utiliza pacotes .deb (de Debian). Acho que a partir dessa introdução e contextualização pode ser que você possa estar um pouco mais situado. Espero que tenha lhe ajudado. Att. On 22-05-2015 22:00, Felipe Soares wrote: ola , sei que é um sistema de suporte do Debian , mais estou fazendo um trabalho sobre oque é e como funcional esse mesmo sistema , como usa-lo e quais suas vantagens poderia me ajudar dizendo algo sobre o sistema Debian linux? qualquer informação sera bem vinda agradeço sua atenção desde já. ass: Felipe Curso : Redes de Computadores -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55607deb.2030...@bol.com.br
Re: problema al instalar hp laserjet 1020 en debian jessie
Usando el el programa hp-setup del hplip pude instalarla y funciona bien. El problema q tengo ahora es referente al error q me dices pues cuando la comparto la impresora se pone en pausa en cups y no quiere nada. Como inicializo la impresora? El 22/05/2015 10:52, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 22 May 2015 16:17:45 +0200, Billy Yeffry Fernández Rodríguez escribió: (ese html...) Efectivamente, tengo problemas al instalarla. En si los drivers oficiales no funcionan, ni los gutenprint. E seguido el siguiente tutorial: https://wiki.debian.org/Instalar_HP_LaserJet_1020 Por aquí¹ recomiendan el driver foo2zjs-z1. pero cada vez que trato de instalar el paquete foomatic-filters, parece que no es compatible con el cups-filters, asi que si lo instalo, me borra el cups y sus dependencias completamente. Manda la salida completa del mensaje que recibes cuando intentas instalar ese paquete pero quizá sólo necesites tener instalado uno de los dos (si tienes CUPS, cups-filter). Aun asi, logro compilar el driver e instalarlo, y luego nuevamente instalo cups, efectivamente el driver nuevo esta en la lista, pero tampoco me funciona. A ver si me sugieren que hacer. Son cosas distintas y necesitas ambas (instalación del controlador y los filtros) para que la impresora pueda funcionar con CUPS. De todas formas, como parece que se ha instalado bien, mira a ver si no aparece como detenida en CUPS, algunas veces si dan error al imprimir la política de CUPS es dejarlas paradas y hay que iniciarlas. ¹http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1020 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.05.22.14.52...@gmail.com
Re: Boot menu entries
On 05/22/2015 04:56 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 22 May 2015 at 16:24:29 -0500, Emil Payne wrote: On 05/22/2015 03:24 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: $ uname -r 3.9-1-amd64 Don't remove the running kernel nor the latest kernel. Remove all of the others. Bob BTW What is the linux-header? Is that just to compile my own? Do I need to keep these? You are full of questions but very short on saying whether the advice you have been given answers your needs, Delete headers packages too. You put them there and should know whether you need them. As far as I know, I never put them there. I've had to reinstall Debian a few times lately and it kept adding new entries to the boot menu. This is my latest: $ update-grub2 Generating grub.cfg ... Found background image: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 No volume groups found done I'm a home user and know enough to be able to do some technical things, but sometimes I don't know everything that they do. I try to study the stuff on the web but there is too much conflicting info. Right now the boot menu is more manageable so I'll leave it at that. Thanks everyone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5561290b.2060...@yahoo.com
OT curiosidad maquinas virtuales
buenas noches comunidad les escribo por que se me ocurrio una idea un poco tonta para algunos pero es solo cuestión si es factible de realizar, supongamos que tengo un disco particionado con windows y linux en dual boot, la pregunta es las siguiente ¿desde una maquina virtual puedo levantar el sistema operativo de la otra partición? Edward Villarroel: @Agentedd
Re: sistema operacional Debian linux
Por exemplo, a antiga Conectiva e a RedHat como está hoje enquadrariam-se como? Em Sun, 24 May 2015 00:36:49 + (UTC) Luiz L. Marins luizlmar...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Thiago Zoroastro disse: ...Software livre não é para ser gratuito, pois se fosse não seria livrepara ganhar dinheiro com isto... Esta fala é um tiro no pé. A liberdade zero da FSL diz que: - A liberdade de executar o programa como você desejar, para qualquer propósito (liberdade 0). Ora, seu eu não posso ou não quero comprar um SL comercial, como posso executa-lo? Você não fornece sem receber o pagamento. Então, esta fala é um tiro no pé porque fere a liberdade zero.Ou seu conceito está errado, ou sua fala está errada ... as coisas não podem estar corretas. Obs. eu sei que o código é aberto, mas de nada adianta isso, se não posso compra-lo para executar e satisfazer a liberdade zero. I De: Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org; lipehdez...@gmail.com Enviadas: Sábado, 23 de Maio de 2015 10:17 Assunto: Re: sistema operacional Debian linux Eai Felipe, Debian é chamado de 'sistema operacional universal', e a vasto conteúdo acerca disso dificulta responder sem que lance mão das fontes sendo muito mais fácil dispor o que você quer. De alguma forma ou outra o que é gerado pelo Debian está mais próximo das pessoas que imaginam. Ao meu ver, o Debian é uma variante do sistema operacional Gnu/Linux, mas Gnu e Linux são ao mesmo tempo coisas distintas do Debian como 'oranizações independentes e autônomas'. Software livre não é para ser gratuito, pois se fosse não seria lvire para ganhar dinheiro com isto. As pessoas pagam o quê, quando e quanto querem. Software livre é uma multiplicidade de comunidades, arquiteturas e iniciativas interdependentes, que se ajudam o desenvolvem software com direitos autorais rígidos, mas pelo Copyleft. Quer dizer que não é domínio público, mas sim que os proprietários dão autorização prévia a outros potenciais autores interferirem, corrigirem, melhorarem e atualizarem os softwares, com liberdade. E Debian é uma organização mundial de pessoas que se associam meio que voluntariamente para desenvolver software livre. A Google é uma empresa que utiliza algo derivado disto, seja com uma parte advindo do Debian ou não. O sistema Android é linux, e o AppStore (ou PlayStore ou GooglePlay) é uma derivação do Central de Programas do Ubuntu. O Ubuntu é um sistema operacional derivado do Debian, e o sistema para computadores da Google é derivado do Ubuntu, sendo assim, provavelmente utiliza pacotes .deb (de Debian). Acho que a partir dessa introdução e contextualização pode ser que você possa estar um pouco mais situado. Espero que tenha lhe ajudado. Att. On 22-05-2015 22:00, Felipe Soares wrote: ola , sei que é um sistema de suporte do Debian , mais estou fazendo um trabalho sobre oque é e como funcional esse mesmo sistema , como usa-lo e quais suas vantagens poderia me ajudar dizendo algo sobre o sistema Debian linux? qualquer informação sera bem vinda agradeço sua atenção desde já. ass: Felipe Curso : Redes de Computadores -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/812897.57585...@smtp239.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: diferença entre sh e ./
Tenho a proposta de um exercício se você topar e tiver um tempo. Experimenta apagar a primeira linha com she-bang do script (deixar a linha em branco) e põe ele prá rodar: 1) com ./script 1) com sh script 2) com sh ./script 3) com bash script 4) com bash ./script Depois você elimina a permissão de escrita com um chmod -x script e refazestes testes, executando. Depois você digita sh no prompt e aperta enter prá entrar no dash e refaz os testes. A variável $PATH de seu ambiente terminal possui vários diretórios de arquivos binários para a execução. Diretórios como /bin /usr/bin e se você for root também terá /sbin e /usr/sbin e outros como /usr/local/bin podem entrar nessa lista. Para confirmar basta você executar um echo $PATH e irá ver como está sua variável PATH de busca de caminhos de execução. Agora se você adicionar no seu $PATH um caminho para seu diretório /home/usuario (supondo seu usuário ter o nome de usuario), então o script rodará sem o ./ para você. Ele rodará que nem um ls, que não precisa de um /bin/ls prá rodar como o script precisa de um ./script para rodar. Não é recomendado colocar na variável PATH o diretório home por questões de segurança (até onde sei, pelo que aprendi). Continue executando comandos dentro de home com ./ Em Sat, 23 May 2015 00:04:40 -0300 Tiago Pigazao piga...@gmail.com escreveu: então independente do que for usado na execução sh ou ./ ele de certa forma não vai considerar aquele sha-bang do inicio #!bin/bash ? Em 22 de maio de 2015 23:34, Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Olá. sh é um link em /bin/sh. No Debiian aponta para /bin/dash. Dash é uma implementação do Almqvist Shell (ash) para o Debian. É shell diferente do Bash. ./ executa o script com shell do ambiente Dash entende as coisas diferentes do que Bash entende. São como que linguagens de scripts diferentes. Por isso é que há uma orientação prá se escrever scripts que funcionem não apenas com bash ou zsh, mas com csh, ksh, dash e muitos outros. No caso do if há dois comandos prá serem usados junto com ele chamado expr e test. Uma versão do seu script para Dash seria: #!/bin/sh for var in $(seq 100) ; do if test $(expr $var % 2) -eq 0 then echo $var fi ; done Em Fri, 22 May 2015 23:04:25 -0300 Tiago Pigazao piga...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa noite Pessoal alguem sabe, qual é a diferença de se executar um shell script com sh ou com ./ ? estou com o seguinte cenário.. tenho um script com permissão de execução ok , ao executar com sh ele não funciona (da problema na linha do if), agora se executar com ./ funciona ok... segue script abaixo : #!/bin/bash for var in $(seq 100) ; do if (( $var % 2 == 0 )) then echo $var fi ; done -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/887903.3626...@smtp234.mail.gq1.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/983881.16648...@smtp233.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: discuss debian 's attitude to ppa
On 05/23/2015 08:58 AM, mudongliang wrote: Yesterday I installed the LMDE(Linux Mint based Debian Jessie),which is a rolling release issued by Linux Mint! The installation is of no question! But when I want to install openyoudao from ppa , it returns me not support ppa! So I search it ! Although I don't find some real proof , but I can see one thing ! Maybe debian will not support ppa , because in the talk of Neil McGovern, he says some weakness of ppa! And from the development of Debian , ppa's development seems to be not able to ensure its stablity! What's your opinion? mudongliang I don't know what openyoudao is but when running Debian it is highly recommended not to mix repositories with Ubuntu or other linux distributions. In your case you are not even running Debian but only Debian based Mint (as far as I know though LMDE is Debian compatible in the repository level). That said you can try to install the .deb package with other ways (for example using gdebi) but the main drawback (apart from any inconsistencies already mentioned) is that the package won't be updated with the rest of the system because apt/synaptic will not be able to do this. Regards Dalios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55602015.3030...@eumx.net
Re: discuss debian 's attitude to ppa
On 05/23/2015 03:28 PM, Petter Adsen wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 15:13:33 +0800 mudongliang mudonglianga...@hotmail.com wrote: On 05/23/2015 02:37 PM, Dalios wrote: That said you can try to install the .deb package with other ways (for example using gdebi) but the main drawback (apart from any inconsistencies already mentioned) is that the package won't be updated with the rest of the system because apt/synaptic will not be able to do this. At last , I want to talk about the future of ppa in Debian! Even the leader has said the weakness of ppa! Maybe Debian will not use ppa! Maybe LMDE is just a hint! Isn't it!? mudongliang The major problem with using a ppa is that the software has not been vetted by the Debian project. It could contain malware or other security problems, and the maintainer of the ppa can suddenly decide to drop support of it, leaving you with a package that does not receive updates. You need to consider whether you trust the person running the ppa to not introduce weaknesses to your system. With the Debian repositories, there is a system in place to handle all of this. Adding a foreign repository _can_ make you vulnerable. You just don't know. I think Debian is a distribution which focuses security and stablity. So maybe it should help these interesting ,useful,meaning project import into Debian project! Things out of control may be a bomb I think! Sometimes, you should not rely on the users to classify the problem of application in ppa! The users may only know its function ,but not its details ,or dependency! Maybe it has many vulnerablities for attacker to hack! Maybe it is a virus! There is also the matter of dependencies, if the repository you are using is not intended for your exact distribution. It's not a matter of not supporting ppas, it's a matter of not recommending them. You can always add the repository to sources.list and add the key manually. I have to confess what you said! The user who write list file for his/her system may know much about this software or be an experienced user of Debian! mudongliang -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu436-smtp226ffc9680d09ccf2eb18f4bc...@phx.gbl
Jessie LVM2 et LUKS, problème pour activer le TRIM.
Bonjour à tous, Je désire activer le trim sur mon système (j'avais pu l'activer sous Wheezy et sur le même ordi), j'utilise Debian Jessie 3.16.0-4-amd64 depuis qu'il est passé en stable. J'ai suivi les étapes de l'installateur et j'ai choisis l'option LVM avec encryption. J'ai zapper l'histoire des trims (n'ayant du le faire qu'une fois il y a longtemps). Maintenant mon disque est plein(ici ce trouve mon problème). Je rencontre des difficultés pour libéré de la mémoire. Mon SDD ne faisant que 64 GO. Je mets ici le lien du site ou j'ai lu le tout: http://ward.vandewege.net/blog/2014/12/debian-jessie-trim-on-lvm-on-luks-on-ssd/ Je mis ici en dessous les informations que j'ai. Cordialement et merci à ceux qui pourront m'aider. Addew -- 1. J'ai éditer /etc/defaut/grub Ca ressemblait à ca: entre d'autres lignes GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= Maintenant ressemble à ca: Avec cette ligne comme modèle: cryptdevice=/dev/sdaX:vg_name:discard GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=cryptdevice=/dev/sda5:monordi-vg:discard GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=cryptdevice=/dev/sda5:monordi-vg:discard Je n'ai pas la certitude non-plus que sda-5 soit le volume LUKS, mais je l'ai vu dans mapper. -- fstrim n'est pas supporté. root@monordi:/#fstrim -v /home fstrim: /home: the discard operation is not supported -- Mon cryptab root@monordi:/# cat /etc/crypttab # target UUID Device key file options sda5_crypt UUID=54000-0045-d457-a5774-124452405ea13c none luks,discard -- mon dev/mapper root@monordi:/# ls dev/mapper/ monordi--vg-home monordi--vg-root monordi--vg-swap_1 control sda5_crypt -- J'ai déjà édité le fichier /etc/lvm/lvm.conf issue_discards = 1 - Après ca je fais un root@monordi:/# update-initramfs -u -k all update-initramfs: /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64 has been altered. update-initramfs: Cannot update. Override with -t option. - Cette commande ne donne pas de retour clair, le prompt disparait un moment et revient. mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` - La commande: dmsetup table, m'a un temps retourné un allow-discard. Mais il a disparu du retour de la commande... -
Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian
Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). Going to abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be very portable in the next year or two. Two questions to begin: 1. Many laptops seem to only be able to turn off Secure Boot through the OS, Windows 8.x, or so I've researched. However, I've read some makes (Asus, Lenovo, Dell and HP) can do it directly through BIOS without needing to boot Windows? True? Any others? 2. How UEFI compatible is Debian Wheezy? What I'm running on the Desktop. Or is Jessie the better choice. Or something else entirely? Except Ubuntu variants (Hate it!). I don't want to run in Legacy mode for future compatibility. I won't be installing a desktop, just a window manager. Probably Openbox. Thanks. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150522235314.7e56f...@debian7.boseck208.net
Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian
Patrick Bartek writes: 2. How UEFI compatible is Debian Wheezy? What I'm running on the Desktop. Or is Jessie the better choice. Or something else entirely? Except Ubuntu variants (Hate it!). I don't want to run in Legacy mode for future compatibility. I won't be installing a desktop, just a window manager. Probably Openbox. Then get Acer C720 Chromebook (with 4 GB of RAM) and install a bigger SSD to it. Everything works in Debian Jessie once you upgrade kernel to a newer version. Boots in a few seconds and no need to pay tax to MS or have UEFI hassles. -- Juha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21856.10009.878066.943...@tutpro.com
Re: discuss debian 's attitude to ppa
On 05/23/2015 02:37 PM, Dalios wrote: On 05/23/2015 08:58 AM, mudongliang wrote: Yesterday I installed the LMDE(Linux Mint based Debian Jessie),which is a rolling release issued by Linux Mint! The installation is of no question! But when I want to install openyoudao from ppa , it returns me not support ppa! So I search it ! Although I don't find some real proof , but I can see one thing ! Maybe debian will not support ppa , because in the talk of Neil McGovern, he says some weakness of ppa! And from the development of Debian , ppa's development seems to be not able to ensure its stablity! What's your opinion? mudongliang I don't know what openyoudao is but when running Debian it is highly First , openyoudao is an open source project on the github! The designer says we can use ppa to install it! recommended not to mix repositories with Ubuntu or other linux distributions. In your case you are not even running Debian but only Debian based Mint (as far as I know though LMDE is Debian compatible in the repository level). Second , I run Debian Jessie on my desktop! It can install software from ppa! I forget to note it! I'm sorry! That said you can try to install the .deb package with other ways (for example using gdebi) but the main drawback (apart from any inconsistencies already mentioned) is that the package won't be updated with the rest of the system because apt/synaptic will not be able to do this. At last , I want to talk about the future of ppa in Debian! Even the leader has said the weakness of ppa! Maybe Debian will not use ppa! Maybe LMDE is just a hint! Isn't it!? mudongliang Regards Dalios -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu436-smtp1673c3dc5c236cf3f042690bc...@phx.gbl
Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian
On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). Going to abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be very portable in the next year or two. Two questions to begin: 1. Many laptops seem to only be able to turn off Secure Boot through the OS, Windows 8.x, or so I've researched. However, I've read some makes (Asus, Lenovo, Dell and HP) can do it directly through BIOS without needing to boot Windows? True? Any others? I don't have a laptop myself (don't like them), but every one I've seen so far has had a switch to disable Secure Boot in the BIOS. AFAIK, that switch is mandatory to adhere to the Built For Windows 8 MS program, although it is only optional for the coming Windows 10 program. That might be something to watch out for. If this is going to become a real problem or not, we will just have to wait and see. 2. How UEFI compatible is Debian Wheezy? What I'm running on the Desktop. Or is Jessie the better choice. Or something else entirely? Except Ubuntu variants (Hate it!). I don't want to run in Legacy mode for future compatibility. I won't be installing a desktop, just a window manager. Probably Openbox. You can find details here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch03s06.html.en#UEFI I believe the Canonical people have put some effort into becoming fully Secure Boot-compliant, but if you do not like them, then that is not an option. There are also others (RedHat?) but I can't remember who. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpuU4SQ3PZja.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: discuss debian 's attitude to ppa
On Sat, 23 May 2015 15:13:33 +0800 mudongliang mudonglianga...@hotmail.com wrote: On 05/23/2015 02:37 PM, Dalios wrote: That said you can try to install the .deb package with other ways (for example using gdebi) but the main drawback (apart from any inconsistencies already mentioned) is that the package won't be updated with the rest of the system because apt/synaptic will not be able to do this. At last , I want to talk about the future of ppa in Debian! Even the leader has said the weakness of ppa! Maybe Debian will not use ppa! Maybe LMDE is just a hint! Isn't it!? mudongliang The major problem with using a ppa is that the software has not been vetted by the Debian project. It could contain malware or other security problems, and the maintainer of the ppa can suddenly decide to drop support of it, leaving you with a package that does not receive updates. You need to consider whether you trust the person running the ppa to not introduce weaknesses to your system. With the Debian repositories, there is a system in place to handle all of this. Adding a foreign repository _can_ make you vulnerable. You just don't know. There is also the matter of dependencies, if the repository you are using is not intended for your exact distribution. It's not a matter of not supporting ppas, it's a matter of not recommending them. You can always add the repository to sources.list and add the key manually. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgp_YwpMnryWH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: discuss debian 's attitude to ppa
On Sat, 23 May 2015 16:28:19 +0800 mudongliang mudonglianga...@hotmail.com wrote: On 05/23/2015 03:28 PM, Petter Adsen wrote: The major problem with using a ppa is that the software has not been vetted by the Debian project. It could contain malware or other security problems, and the maintainer of the ppa can suddenly decide to drop support of it, leaving you with a package that does not receive updates. You need to consider whether you trust the person running the ppa to not introduce weaknesses to your system. With the Debian repositories, there is a system in place to handle all of this. Adding a foreign repository _can_ make you vulnerable. You just don't know. I think Debian is a distribution which focuses security and stablity. So maybe it should help these interesting ,useful,meaning project import into Debian project! If you want to get the package adopted by Debian, there is nothing to stop you from offering to maintain it yourself. Somebody needs to take on the responsibility of building the package for Debian, and provide updates and fixes. In the Debian community, this happens within a framework. Everyone is free to contribute and suggest packages for adoption, but it is still dependent on someone actually taking responsibility for the package in question. I have no idea what the package you are talking about is, but if there is a significant need for it, I suggest you go through the appropriate channels to have it adopted. There is probably information on how to do this on the wiki, I'm just too lazy to check. (OK, I checked ;) Read this: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html That is a guide on building/maintaining Debian packages. You should also take a look at: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html And read this if you want the package to actually be adopted: https://wiki.debian.org/SponsorChecklist If there are other things you need to know about, I hope someone else will speak up, as I know little about this. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpNthwaDET34.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [OT] Generar Reportes/Documentación
El día 22 de mayo de 2015, 18:20, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus arad...@gmail.com escribió: Podrías probar con pandoc a XML (bien formado) y de ahí con ConTeXt pasar a pdf sin el HTML. Aunque para saber mejor que usar sería bueno saber cual es tu entrada en pandoc. Si es desde Writer puedes sacar el pdf directamente sin tanto engorro. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caacnk7anctdizxaqvuhjuzju7xnmkra-35wknnpst08ip+1...@mail.gmail.com Tambien puedes usar jasperreports, metes todo en una base de datos, y generas los reportes con un pequeño programa en java. si te interesa te puedo pasar algunos códigos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAG799-pja1LpOVw7VBXVAA77VEWO6o9-=iespjwfytesakq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: FreeBSD ou Linux
Le 2015-05-23 15:26, Qassem Debian a écrit : Bonjour, Je veux installer Debian,sur un Dell E5450,avec un noyau FreeBSD mais seulement j'hésite un peu...je ne sais pas si l'administration d'une Debian GNU/kFreeBSD est identique à celle d'une Debian avec noyau Linux.Quel est le shell par défaut? Les outils d'administrations sont-ils les mêmes que ceux offerts par le noyau Linux?... Quelqu'un voudrait bien m'aider à faire un choix éclairé? Bonjour, Si tu veux tester FreeBSD, teste directement la distribution source, la version FreeBSD de Debian ayant été abandonnée lors du passage à Jessie. My 2cts. D.S.
Re: Jessie LVM2 et LUKS, problème pour activer le TRIM.
Hello, J'ai le même schéma (luks + lvm) que toi, je n'ai rien configuré au niveau de grub. Je pense que tout est ok niveau configuration. Pour recréer l'initram tu peux tenter un dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 ++ Le 23 mai 2015 11:57, Adrien Dewulf addew...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Je désire activer le trim sur mon système (j'avais pu l'activer sous Wheezy et sur le même ordi), j'utilise Debian Jessie 3.16.0-4-amd64 depuis qu'il est passé en stable. J'ai suivi les étapes de l'installateur et j'ai choisis l'option LVM avec encryption. J'ai zapper l'histoire des trims (n'ayant du le faire qu'une fois il y a longtemps). Maintenant mon disque est plein(ici ce trouve mon problème). Je rencontre des difficultés pour libéré de la mémoire. Mon SDD ne faisant que 64 GO. Je mets ici le lien du site ou j'ai lu le tout: http://ward.vandewege.net/blog/2014/12/debian-jessie-trim-on-lvm-on-luks-on-ssd/ Je mis ici en dessous les informations que j'ai. Cordialement et merci à ceux qui pourront m'aider. Addew -- 1. J'ai éditer /etc/defaut/grub Ca ressemblait à ca: entre d'autres lignes GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= Maintenant ressemble à ca: Avec cette ligne comme modèle: cryptdevice=/dev/sdaX:vg_name:discard GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=cryptdevice=/dev/sda5:monordi-vg:discard GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=cryptdevice=/dev/sda5:monordi-vg:discard Je n'ai pas la certitude non-plus que sda-5 soit le volume LUKS, mais je l'ai vu dans mapper. -- fstrim n'est pas supporté. root@monordi:/#fstrim -v /home fstrim: /home: the discard operation is not supported -- Mon cryptab root@monordi:/# cat /etc/crypttab # target UUID Device key file options sda5_crypt UUID=54000-0045-d457-a5774-124452405ea13c none luks,discard -- mon dev/mapper root@monordi:/# ls dev/mapper/ monordi--vg-home monordi--vg-root monordi--vg-swap_1 control sda5_crypt -- J'ai déjà édité le fichier /etc/lvm/lvm.conf issue_discards = 1 - Après ca je fais un root@monordi:/# update-initramfs -u -k all update-initramfs: /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64 has been altered. update-initramfs: Cannot update. Override with -t option. - Cette commande ne donne pas de retour clair, le prompt disparait un moment et revient. mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` - La commande: dmsetup table, m'a un temps retourné un allow-discard. Mais il a disparu du retour de la commande... - -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADJ1h1TFXsXxYhMiyE=zzeura1rcyzbypfcxnj_8rftgwqv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problems getting started with QtQuick and QtCreator
On Sat, 2015-05-23 at 08:24 +0300, Jarle Aase wrote: Hi all, Sorry for the noise. I started trying more of the suggestions in different forum threads regarding this problem, and aptitude install qtdeclarative5-dev solved it. That sounds like a dependency problem, be sure to file a bug so others won't have the same problem! -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Postfix comportement étrange
Le 23/05/2015 01:30, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :
Le 21/05/15 à 15:24, Samuel debian-user-french-2...@ingescom.com a écrit :
S C'est ce que j'avais mis en place (en changeant la requête user_query de
S dovecot)
Ah ben non, faut que tu crée une nouvelle requete pour cet usage de
check_policy_service sans
casser les requêtes existantes, sinon évidemment dovecot va utiliser cette
requete modifiée
pour trouver les users et ça va remonter les alias aussi et évidemment créer
d'autre problèmes.
Le problème est que la table quota est gérée par dovecot (ajout
suppression de champ etc ...) et que le fichier de conf lié à cette
table quota est très sommaire et ne permet, à priori, pas de
personnaliser les requêtes (rien vu en ce sens sur
http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Quota/Dict) :
connect = host=10.40.30.1 dbname=mail user=test password=test
map {
pattern = priv/quota/storage
table = quota
username_field = email
value_field = bytes
}
map {
pattern = priv/quota/messages
table = quota
username_field = email
value_field = messages
}
Je ne vois pas comment utiliser username_field pour récupérer et
l'alias et le user dans 2 tables différentes.
Si j'ai bien compris que c'est à ce niveau qu'il faut intervenir.
Samuel.
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Re: discuss debian 's attitude to ppa
Hi. On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:28:55 +0200 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 15:13:33 +0800 mudongliang mudonglianga...@hotmail.com wrote: On 05/23/2015 02:37 PM, Dalios wrote: That said you can try to install the .deb package with other ways (for example using gdebi) but the main drawback (apart from any inconsistencies already mentioned) is that the package won't be updated with the rest of the system because apt/synaptic will not be able to do this. At last , I want to talk about the future of ppa in Debian! Even the leader has said the weakness of ppa! Maybe Debian will not use ppa! Maybe LMDE is just a hint! Isn't it!? mudongliang The major problem with using a ppa is that the software has not been vetted by the Debian project. It could contain malware or other security problems, and the maintainer of the ppa can suddenly decide to drop support of it, leaving you with a package that does not receive updates. You need to consider whether you trust the person running the ppa to not introduce weaknesses to your system. With the Debian repositories, there is a system in place to handle all of this. Adding a foreign repository _can_ make you vulnerable. You just don't know. There is also the matter of dependencies, if the repository you are using is not intended for your exact distribution. It's not a matter of not supporting ppas, it's a matter of not recommending them. You can always add the repository to sources.list and add the key manually. I'd like to add something to your excellent points. $ wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/justzx2011/openyoudao-v0.4/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openyoudao/openyoudao_0.4-1_amd64.deb ... $ lintian openyoudao_0.4-1_amd64.deb | wc -l 48 Whoever packaged this software did abysmally bad job. I doubt that this package would be accepted in Debian archive in the current shape. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523150447.b354e66df21b4c91d1d4e...@gmail.com
RE: Problem Running Application with Alias
-Original Message- From: Petter Adsen [mailto:pet...@synth.no] Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 9:47 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Problem Running Application with Alias On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:36:31 -0400 Sephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net wrote: VI am running Wheezy (v-7.8.0) in a VM and have encountered rather a strange problem .with an application, MOPAC (a well established quantum chemistry program). The application is installed in /opt/mopac (required by the executable) and, in order to execute the program the following is an entry in the user .bashrc: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH This is an obvious thing that jumps out at me, this line should be: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mopac:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH as LD_LIBRARY_PATH is meant to contain directories where shared libraries can be found, not an executable binary. In this case, I expect that the shared libraries will not be found, since the loader will look for them in a _directory named_ MOPAC2012.exe, not /opt/mopac. export LD_LIBRARY_PATH alias mopac='/opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe' The permissions for /opt/mopac are: drwxrwxrwx (I should note at this point that this works flawlessly in my production machine.) Maybe there are copies of the libraries in another directory that the loader searches, or /opt/mopac is listed in /etc/ld.so.conf. comp@inga:~$ /opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe /opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe: error while loading shared libraries: libiomp5.so: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory The workaround is to copy the argument to /opt/mopac, run the executable for the calculation, and then transfer the results to the working directory. This is most inconvenient and I would really appreciate a solution to the problem. Try fixing the line that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH, or adding /opt/mopac to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig to update the cache. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. Well, that was a red-faced forehead slapper. The solution, or rather the problem, was staring me in the face and I faled to comprehend. Thanks very much for your reply! Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/00dc01d09562$af8113b0$0e833b10$@mol...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Jessie LVM2 et LUKS, problème pour activer le TRIM.
Hello, Merci, le dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 a du bien fonctionné puisque je n'ai pas de retour d'erreur quand j’exécute le # update-initramfs -u -k all. C'est manifestement le mkinitramfs qui a posé un problème. Je viens de le tester. Est ce que quand tu exécutes # dmsetup table tu as un allow-discard qui apparaît dans le retour ? Merci. Le 23 mai 2015 12:43, Sylvain Tgz tarjaiz...@gmail.com a écrit : Hello, J'ai le même schéma (luks + lvm) que toi, je n'ai rien configuré au niveau de grub. Je pense que tout est ok niveau configuration. Pour recréer l'initram tu peux tenter un dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 ++ Le 23 mai 2015 11:57, Adrien Dewulf addew...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Je désire activer le trim sur mon système (j'avais pu l'activer sous Wheezy et sur le même ordi), j'utilise Debian Jessie 3.16.0-4-amd64 depuis qu'il est passé en stable. J'ai suivi les étapes de l'installateur et j'ai choisis l'option LVM avec encryption. J'ai zapper l'histoire des trims (n'ayant du le faire qu'une fois il y a longtemps). Maintenant mon disque est plein(ici ce trouve mon problème). Je rencontre des difficultés pour libéré de la mémoire. Mon SDD ne faisant que 64 GO. Je mets ici le lien du site ou j'ai lu le tout: http://ward.vandewege.net/blog/2014/12/debian-jessie-trim-on-lvm-on-luks-on-ssd/ Je mis ici en dessous les informations que j'ai. Cordialement et merci à ceux qui pourront m'aider. Addew -- 1. J'ai éditer /etc/defaut/grub Ca ressemblait à ca: entre d'autres lignes GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= Maintenant ressemble à ca: Avec cette ligne comme modèle: cryptdevice=/dev/sdaX:vg_name:discard GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=cryptdevice=/dev/sda5:monordi-vg:discard GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=cryptdevice=/dev/sda5:monordi-vg:discard Je n'ai pas la certitude non-plus que sda-5 soit le volume LUKS, mais je l'ai vu dans mapper. -- fstrim n'est pas supporté. root@monordi:/#fstrim -v /home fstrim: /home: the discard operation is not supported -- Mon cryptab root@monordi:/# cat /etc/crypttab # target UUID Device key file options sda5_crypt UUID=54000-0045-d457-a5774-124452405ea13c none luks,discard -- mon dev/mapper root@monordi:/# ls dev/mapper/ monordi--vg-home monordi--vg-root monordi--vg-swap_1 control sda5_crypt -- J'ai déjà édité le fichier /etc/lvm/lvm.conf issue_discards = 1 - Après ca je fais un root@monordi:/# update-initramfs -u -k all update-initramfs: /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64 has been altered. update-initramfs: Cannot update. Override with -t option. - Cette commande ne donne pas de retour clair, le prompt disparait un moment et revient. mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` - La commande: dmsetup table, m'a un temps retourné un allow-discard. Mais il a disparu du retour de la commande... - -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cadj1h1tfxsxxyhmiyezzeura1rcyzbypfcxnj_8rftgwqv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Jessie LVM2 et LUKS, problème pour activer le TRIM.
Hello ! Adrien: Bonjour à tous, Je désire activer le trim sur mon système Si tu parles un peu anglais, c'est grave bien expliqué ici : http://blog.neutrino.es/2013/howto-properly-activate-trim-for-your-ssd-on-linux-fstrim-lvm-and-dmcrypt/ tcho! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGKqBr=sw3g_i_l5idb8owsojconkm8y0bmwvpoh4qadxlo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: sistema operacional Debian linux
Eai Felipe, Debian é chamado de 'sistema operacional universal', e a vasto conteúdo acerca disso dificulta responder sem que lance mão das fontes sendo muito mais fácil dispor o que você quer. De alguma forma ou outra o que é gerado pelo Debian está mais próximo das pessoas que imaginam. Ao meu ver, o Debian é uma variante do sistema operacional Gnu/Linux, mas Gnu e Linux são ao mesmo tempo coisas distintas do Debian como 'oranizações independentes e autônomas'. Software livre não é para ser gratuito, pois se fosse não seria lvire para ganhar dinheiro com isto. As pessoas pagam o quê, quando e quanto querem. Software livre é uma multiplicidade de comunidades, arquiteturas e iniciativas interdependentes, que se ajudam o desenvolvem software com direitos autorais rígidos, mas pelo Copyleft. Quer dizer que não é domínio público, mas sim que os proprietários dão autorização prévia a outros potenciais autores interferirem, corrigirem, melhorarem e atualizarem os softwares, com liberdade. E Debian é uma organização mundial de pessoas que se associam meio que voluntariamente para desenvolver software livre. A Google é uma empresa que utiliza algo derivado disto, seja com uma parte advindo do Debian ou não. O sistema Android é linux, e o AppStore (ou PlayStore ou GooglePlay) é uma derivação do Central de Programas do Ubuntu. O Ubuntu é um sistema operacional derivado do Debian, e o sistema para computadores da Google é derivado do Ubuntu, sendo assim, provavelmente utiliza pacotes .deb (de Debian). Acho que a partir dessa introdução e contextualização pode ser que você possa estar um pouco mais situado. Espero que tenha lhe ajudado. Att. On 22-05-2015 22:00, Felipe Soares wrote: ola , sei que é um sistema de suporte do Debian , mais estou fazendo um trabalho sobre oque é e como funcional esse mesmo sistema , como usa-lo e quais suas vantagens poderia me ajudar dizendo algo sobre o sistema Debian linux? qualquer informação sera bem vinda agradeço sua atenção desde já. ass: Felipe Curso : Redes de Computadores -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55607deb.2030...@bol.com.br
Problem Running Application with Alias
VI am running Wheezy (v-7.8.0) in a VM and have encountered rather a strange problem .with an application, MOPAC (a well established quantum chemistry program). The application is installed in /opt/mopac (required by the executable) and, in order to execute the program the following is an entry in the user .bashrc: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH export LD_LIBRARY_PATH alias mopac='/opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe' The permissions for /opt/mopac are: drwxrwxrwx (I should note at this point that this works flawlessly in my production machine.) Now, for the problem, the alias or MOPAC2012.exe work only if evoked in /opt/mopac! If, I attempt running the alias in /home/comp (the user), for instance, I get: comp@inga:~$ mopac /opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe: error while loading shared libraries: libiomp5.so: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory Alternately, if I try to run with the ful path to the executabe I get: comp@inga:~$ /opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe /opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe: error while loading shared libraries: libiomp5.so: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory The workaround is to copy the argument to /opt/mopac, run the executable for the calculation, and then transfer the results to the working directory. This is most inconvenient and I would really appreciate a solution to the problem. Thanks iin advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528(c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5560825f.1030...@sbcglobal.net
Testing - login screen and console very dark
At some point during the recent slew of updates in testing I noticed that one of my four systems began exhibiting a strange behavior. When I log out from a desktop session to the greeter or switch to a console screen, the display is so dark I can hardly see its content. I would point out that the first time the login screen is seen after boot it shines at normal brightness. The affected system is a Lenovo Thinkpad T520i, the only system among my 4 machines running the AMD64 kernel. Fortunately it has screen brightness control built into the hardware, so remedying the dim screens is easy enough. I recall having to fiddle with screen brightness on in the DE (Xfce) more than once in the past as versions of the power manager changed. But, in those cases, the login screen and console screen brightness were not affected. The other odd effect I see is that using the screen brightness keys when at the login screen or on the console doesn't step the brightness. The first touch of the brightness control takes brightness all the way to 100%. Once logged in, the brightness control is properly granular. One more oddity about brightness control on the system is that the new power manager plugin for the Xfce panel behaves as I would expect -- except that, if it is sitting in the notification area instead of out on the panel, use of the mouse scrollwheel with the cursor positioned over the power icon does not control screen brightness. This latter issue might well be attributed to the plugin itself, but is the issue of login screen and console screen brightness not a function of non-DE components? There are many, many reports online of people having problems with display brightness recently, but none that I have read seems at all a close match to my situation. Could someone here steer me toward documentation or testing methods that could help me resolve the issue of login screen and console brightness? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/556089bb.7030...@comcast.net
Re: discuss debian 's attitude to ppa
Hi, On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 01:58:16PM +0800, mudongliang wrote: Yesterday I installed the LMDE(Linux Mint based Debian Jessie),which is a rolling release issued by Linux Mint! LMDE is based on Debian but not exactly a Debian. It's Linux Mint. The installation is of no question! But when I want to install openyoudao from ppa , it returns me not support ppa! So I search it ! Although I don't find some real proof , but I can see one thing ! Maybe debian will not support ppa , PPA created by Debian and based on Debian will be supported but that still has not been created. Random PPA style archive is not supported although some binaries may work. because in the talk of Neil McGovern, he says some weakness of ppa! And from the development of Debian , ppa's development seems to be not able to ensure its stablity! I do not know what you are talking about, but I thought Neil is pushing to create PPA asa paert of service. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523124316.GA19222@goofy.local
FreeBSD ou Linux
Bonjour, Je veux installer Debian,sur un Dell E5450,avec un noyau FreeBSD mais seulement j'hésite un peu...je ne sais pas si l'administration d'une Debian GNU/kFreeBSD est identique à celle d'une Debian avec noyau Linux.Quel est le shell par défaut? Les outils d'administrations sont-ils les mêmes que ceux offerts par le noyau Linux?... Quelqu'un voudrait bien m'aider à faire un choix éclairé?
Re: Problem Running Application with Alias
On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:36:31 -0400 Sephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net wrote: VI am running Wheezy (v-7.8.0) in a VM and have encountered rather a strange problem .with an application, MOPAC (a well established quantum chemistry program). The application is installed in /opt/mopac (required by the executable) and, in order to execute the program the following is an entry in the user .bashrc: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH This is an obvious thing that jumps out at me, this line should be: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mopac:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH as LD_LIBRARY_PATH is meant to contain directories where shared libraries can be found, not an executable binary. In this case, I expect that the shared libraries will not be found, since the loader will look for them in a _directory named_ MOPAC2012.exe, not /opt/mopac. export LD_LIBRARY_PATH alias mopac='/opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe' The permissions for /opt/mopac are: drwxrwxrwx (I should note at this point that this works flawlessly in my production machine.) Maybe there are copies of the libraries in another directory that the loader searches, or /opt/mopac is listed in /etc/ld.so.conf. comp@inga:~$ /opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe /opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe: error while loading shared libraries: libiomp5.so: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory The workaround is to copy the argument to /opt/mopac, run the executable for the calculation, and then transfer the results to the working directory. This is most inconvenient and I would really appreciate a solution to the problem. Try fixing the line that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH, or adding /opt/mopac to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig to update the cache. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpW4CMFvGwOJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: KVM switch: DVI-D, DVI-I or vga?
On Sat, 23 May 2015 10:30:33 -0400 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I am shopping locally here for a good KVM switch. For now, I am not even sure what type should I get. What are advantages to have DVI instead of VGA interface? Are there any justifications in price? VGA KVM is about $20, where is DVI is $100. If money is no object, DVI KVM is better than VGA? Thanks for all info you can share. DVI-D = digital, DVI-I = digital + analog, VGA = analog. One thing to be aware of is that you *might* get issues with HDCP (DRM) when using DVI. Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvi Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgppN8viIhVsL.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
udev hwdb question
In followup to the question I asked about a Logitech mouse a couple of days ago; I can add a file in /etc/udev/hwdb.d and remap a binding as such: KEYBOARD_KEY_70007=back But where can I find a list of what I can map them _to_ (ie, the back in this example)? Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgp9aZHEZ5x03.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: udev hwdb question
On Sat, 2015-05-23 at 16:38 +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: In followup to the question I asked about a Logitech mouse a couple of days ago; I can add a file in /etc/udev/hwdb.d and remap a binding as such: KEYBOARD_KEY_70007=back But where can I find a list of what I can map them _to_ (ie, the back in this example)? Petter I think that is /usr/include/linux/input.h but in lowercase and without the KEY_ prefix. I haven't tried it myself though. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: KVM switch: DVI-D, DVI-I or vga?
On Sat, 23 May 2015 11:17:18 -0400 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 16:53:37 +0200 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 10:30:33 -0400 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I am shopping locally here for a good KVM switch. For now, I am not even sure what type should I get. What are advantages to have DVI instead of VGA interface? Are there any justifications in price? VGA KVM is about $20, where is DVI is $100. If money is no object, DVI KVM is better than VGA? Thanks for all info you can share. DVI-D = digital, DVI-I = digital + analog, VGA = analog. Most of the monitors are DVI-D, right? Now, my attention was caught by DVI-I KVM because of affordable price. Do I need some sort of adapter for DVI-D monitor? How much it is usually running at? Or DVI-I will fit DVI-D output? Thanks Well, all you really need to know is in the link I gave you :) For the connectors, see this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface#Connector AFAIK, a DVI-D connector/cable can be plugged into both DVI-D and DVI-I ports, but a DVI-I cable carries extra (analog) signals, so it has extra pins that won't fit in a DVI-D port. A DVI-I KVM will carry both the digital and the analog signal, so you can use a DVI-D cable to connect it to a DVI-D screen - it just won't carry the analog signal, which you wouldn't need or be able to use anyway. You can see illustrations of the connectors in the above link - I really advice you to read it, since it thoroughly explains everything you may need to know. I also remember seeing a quick and dirty rundown of the differences on the nVidia site, you will find it if you search for it. The above link is far more exhaustive, though. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgp1gyePahadw.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El Sat, 23 May 2015 17:22:34 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: El vie, 22-05-2015 a las 13:34 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) 2. Que vaya todo bien. ¿Quieres la copia de algún archivo o que haga alguna prueba? Si va todo bien (sería extraño) ya pensamos qué hacer :-) Todo va bien y he estado haciendo cosas un rato, como por ejemplo: la obtencion de los datos hw que te daré mas adelante. Caray, pues sí que es raro que no arranque directamente y sí lo haga desde línea de comandos. Así a bote pronto no te sabría decir qué diferencia podría haber entre una situación y la otra como para evitar que el sistema se cargue normalmente. En esta maquina (la que no arranca Debian 8 ni Ubuntu 15.04) han corrido perfectamente bien hasta ahora todas las versiones de Debian (de hecho, ahora mismo estoy usando la 7.8) y todas las de Ubuntu (al menos hasta la 14.04). Hay gente que culpa a nouveau, pero tambien esta en D-7.8. Lo nuevo es systemd. ¿Se podria eliminar y sustituir por SysV para probar?. Digo con probabilidades de que no se maten entre ellos. Sí, es posible pero mira, no te lo recomiendo. Nos vamos a tener que tragar systemd nos guste o no así que si algo no funciona mejor que ignorarlo es informar y que lo arreglen. Comparto contigo que nouveau no debería ser el culpable (y de hecho, si te ha iniciado gnome-shell con nouveau parece indicar que no lo es). Cierto es que gnome-shell ahora pide que el driver gráfico tenga soporte para EGL y no sé en qué estado se encontrará nouveau con esa característica (no olvidemos que nouveau es un desarrollo de ingeniería inversa ya que nvidia no proporciona código fuente alguno por lo que todo lo hacen a ciegas y pisando terreno pantanoso por eso los drivers propietarios de nvidia son bastante mejores que los de código abierto). En estos dias he estado con una maquina Medion parecida a esta, en la que corren perfectamente D-8 y U-15.04. Los datos hw son: Proc. Intel Pentium G630 @2.70Ghz 1600Mhz VGA Intel 2nd generation core processor PCI Intel 6 Series/C200 Chipset. Los datos de la que falla (HP) son: Proc. AMD Athlon II X2 250 processor 800Mhz. VGA nVidia C61 GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 PCI nVidia MCP61 La mayoría de las tarjetas gráficas de Intel no dan problemas porque disponen de controladores de código abierto pero eso sí, su rendimiento deja bastante que desear para según qué tareas. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.05.23.16.14...@gmail.com
Re: Postfix comportement étrange
Le 23/05/15 à 14:03, Samuel debian-user-french-2...@ingescom.com a écrit : S Je ne vois pas comment utiliser username_field pour récupérer et S l'alias et le user dans 2 tables différentes. S S Si j'ai bien compris que c'est à ce niveau qu'il faut intervenir. Probable, je connais pas ta structure de table, tu dois écrire une requete sql qui sorte login ou alias dans un seul champ, et tu utilise cette requete dans postfix, sans toucher aux requetes déjà écrites pour dovecot. Si t'es pas à l'aise avec des if dans le select, tu peux indiquer 2 requetes dans ta conf postfix cle = mysql:/path/to/recup_users.cf, mysql:/path/to/recup_alias.cf et tu regarde la doc pour la syntaxe de ces fichier cf, c'est du genre user = xxx password = xxx hosts = xxx dbname = xxx query = SELECT champ FROM table WHERE autreChamp = '%s' Le %s dépend de cle (ça peut être une adresse, un domaine, suivant le contexte), ce que tu doit remonter dépend aussi du contexte. -- Daniel J'aurais aimé être publicitaire pour faire dire des conneries aux vedettes. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523114713.5d013da6@mfssd
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 16:42 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 18:32:39 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 16:14 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 17:22:34 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Caray, pues sí que es raro que no arranque directamente y sí lo haga desde línea de comandos. Así a bote pronto no te sabría decir qué diferencia podría haber entre una situación y la otra como para evitar que el sistema se cargue normalmente. A ver, me parece que no me he explicado bien. Con recovery mode llego hasta el modo grafico: pantalla de seleccion de usuarios.. Hay una parada intermedia en la que se podria entrar en modo texto, pero con Ctrl-D continua hasta el final. Entonces ¿aún no has podido iniciar con GNOME classic, cerrar la sesión e intentar de nuevo con gnome-shell? Ya me parecía raro que funcionara :-) Perdona, pero hay algo en lo que no te entiendo: mi secuencia ha sido la siguiente: 1. Arranco con recovery mode. 2. Cuando aparece la pregunta de usuario+password, le doy Ctrl-D y continua la carga hasta que aparece la pantalla de entrada grafica en la que esta mi nombre de cuenta. 3. Aparte de poner la pwd, selecciono el modo que quiera: predeterminado, gnome, gnome-classic y un 4º que no funciona. Entro y trabajo un rato, para ver que no se vuelve a quedar colgado-tv. 4. Puedo apagar o salir de sesion y volver a entrar con un modo diferente, sin problemas. Podrias decirme modo guia-burros, o sea al estilo americano, que quieres exactamente que haga. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1432400535.3425.24.camel@Mortadelo
Re: FreeBSD ou Linux
Le 23/05/15 à 16:13, David S. ml+deb...@davidsanchez.fr a écrit : DS Bonjour, DS DS Je veux installer Debian,sur un Dell E5450,avec un noyau FreeBSD mais seulement j'hésite DS un peu...je ne sais pas si l'administration d'une Debian GNU/kFreeBSD est identique à DS celle d'une Debian avec noyau Linux.Quel est le shell par défaut? Les outils DS d'administrations sont-ils les mêmes que ceux offerts par le noyau Linux?... DS DS Quelqu'un voudrait bien m'aider à faire un choix éclairé? DS DS Bonjour, DS DS Si tu veux tester FreeBSD, teste directement la distribution source, la DS version FreeBSD de Debian ayant été abandonnée lors du passage à Jessie. Et la question n'est pas tellement celle du shell (tu peux mettre bash ou zsh ou celui que tu veux), mais bien de tous les outils d'administration. Tu vas retrouver la plupart des outils gnu (ps co), mais parfois avec des options que tu as l'habitude d'utiliser qui changent un peu, et surtout une organisation assez différente (système de ports vs packets, filesystem efficace mais évidemment avec des outils spécifiques, gestion des services qui change aussi, etc). Ça dépend aussi si c'est pour du desktop ou du serveur. J'étais tenté à une époque (surtout pour ZFS et le never reboot), pour des serveurs, mais je veux avoir la même chose sur mon desktop (pour avoir une conf de test locale identique). Ayant un peu regardé ça et testé une install sur une partition libre j'ai réalisé que ça me prendrait bcp de temps pour arriver à maîtriser ça autant que linux pour un desktop (la gestion des périphériques est nettement plus compliqué par manque de pilotes dispo en standard, configurer un chipset wifi ou un scanner peut demander pas mal d'efforts, mais c'était y'a plusieurs années, ça a sûrement évolué depuis). J'en avais conclu qu'il valait mieux pour moi investir ça dans l'amélioration de ma compréhension d'un linux (avec nettement plus de docs dispo). La solution aurait pu être de passer les serveurs en BSD et en virtualiser un sur mon desktop linux, mais ça impose quand même de maîtriser les deux, j'ai eu la flemme et manqué de temps. Mais tu peux tester simplement avec un multiboot en dégageant une petite partition primaire pour démarrer un BSD avec éventuellement le reste sous LVM si t'as besoin de plus de place. Et raconte nous ensuite ;-) -- Daniel Je bois pour oublier que je suis un ivrogne. Alphonse Allais -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523122128.68a1f0a2@mfssd
Running Debian with only 213MB Ram?
Hi all. On my old laptop I chose Openobex as window manager because Gnome is too heavy for it. I get though: $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 213207 5 4 23111 -/+ buffers/cache: 73140 Swap: 952 0952 with just Openobex and Emacs and a couple of terminal emulators running, not else. Do you think that is too little? Then maybe I should gave up hoping to use Debian on that machine, and look for - if any exists - other systems? Another thing: reading an old post of mine on Linux Debian Users mailing list, some years ago, the above command would show 216 as total Memory. Is it possibile that it's decreased since then?? Thanks for any help, Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87oalbnyf4@gmail.com
Re: Running Debian with only 213MB Ram?
Hi. On Sat, 23 May 2015 14:47:27 + Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. On my old laptop I chose Openobex as window manager because Gnome is too heavy for it. I get though: $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 213207 5 4 23111 -/+ buffers/cache: 73140 Swap: 952 0952 with just Openobex and Emacs and a couple of terminal emulators running, not else. Do you think that is too little? Your 'free -m' result cleary show that you have 140M free memory. I.e. 65% of your memory is free. Moreover, you managed to avoid using the swap. An excellent result, if you ask me. Also, see [1]. And BTW, it's openbox, not Openobex :) Then maybe I should gave up hoping to use Debian on that machine, and look for - if any exists - other systems? Why would you choose to do so? As long as overall performance satisfies you - there's no need to change anything. Another thing: reading an old post of mine on Linux Debian Users mailing list, some years ago, the above command would show 216 as total Memory. Is it possibile that it's decreased since then?? I have no idea of e-mail you're talking about, so no help from me here, sorry. [1] http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523180744.b3d03601dee04322a2acc...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El vie, 22-05-2015 a las 13:34 +, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 21 May 2015 19:27:27 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: No voy a tener acceso al ordenador que da los problemas en un par de dias, por lo que me gustaria concretar un poco mas la prueba. Se trata de llegar a la caratula de selección de usuarios, cambiar gnome-classic por predeterminado y entrar. Puede ocurrir: 1. Que se descontrole: Te contaré lo que ocurre y si puedo hacer algo para retomar el control. ¿Algo mas? Si, si es posible me interesa los siguientes datos: 1/ El archivo de registro completo que tienes en /var/log/syslog, el .greeter.0 que está dentro del directorio /var/log/gdm3 y por si acaso, el /var/log/Xorg.0.log. 2/ Si al iniciar la sesión aparece en la pantalla texto, el que sea, una foto. 2. Que vaya todo bien. ¿Quieres la copia de algún archivo o que haga alguna prueba? Si va todo bien (sería extraño) ya pensamos qué hacer :-) Todo va bien y he estado haciendo cosas un rato, como por ejemplo: la obtencion de los datos hw que te daré mas adelante. En esta maquina (la que no arranca Debian 8 ni Ubuntu 15.04) han corrido perfectamente bien hasta ahora todas las versiones de Debian (de hecho, ahora mismo estoy usando la 7.8) y todas las de Ubuntu (al menos hasta la 14.04). Hay gente que culpa a nouveau, pero tambien esta en D-7.8. Lo nuevo es systemd. ¿Se podria eliminar y sustituir por SysV para probar?. Digo con probabilidades de que no se maten entre ellos. En estos dias he estado con una maquina Medion parecida a esta, en la que corren perfectamente D-8 y U-15.04. Los datos hw son: Proc. Intel Pentium G630 @2.70Ghz 1600Mhz VGA Intel 2nd generation core processor PCI Intel 6 Series/C200 Chipset. Los datos de la que falla (HP) son: Proc. AMD Athlon II X2 250 processor 800Mhz. VGA nVidia C61 GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 PCI nVidia MCP61 Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1432394554.3449.13.camel@Mortadelo
Re: Testing - login screen and console very dark
On 05/23/2015 10:07 AM, Jape Person wrote: At some point during the recent slew of updates in testing I noticed that one of my four systems began exhibiting a strange behavior. When I log out from a desktop session to the greeter or switch to a console screen, the display is so dark I can hardly see its content. I would point out that the first time the login screen is seen after boot it shines at normal brightness. The affected system is a Lenovo Thinkpad T520i, the only system among my 4 machines running the AMD64 kernel. Fortunately it has screen brightness control built into the hardware, so remedying the dim screens is easy enough. I recall having to fiddle with screen brightness on in the DE (Xfce) more than once in the past as versions of the power manager changed. But, in those cases, the login screen and console screen brightness were not affected. The other odd effect I see is that using the screen brightness keys when at the login screen or on the console doesn't step the brightness. The first touch of the brightness control takes brightness all the way to 100%. Once logged in, the brightness control is properly granular. One more oddity about brightness control on the system is that the new power manager plugin for the Xfce panel behaves as I would expect -- except that, if it is sitting in the notification area instead of out on the panel, use of the mouse scrollwheel with the cursor positioned over the power icon does not control screen brightness. This latter issue might well be attributed to the plugin itself, but is the issue of login screen and console screen brightness not a function of non-DE components? There are many, many reports online of people having problems with display brightness recently, but none that I have read seems at all a close match to my situation. Could someone here steer me toward documentation or testing methods that could help me resolve the issue of login screen and console brightness? Thanks! Additional Information: Once the first use of the brightness key has brightened the login screen or the console screen, the control becomes granular when decreasing or increasing screen brightness. Each time a brightness control keypress is made with a console screen visible, a ^@ appears on the command line or prompt line in addition to the change in screen brightness. The initial adjustment to screen brightness has to be performed separately on the login screen and one of the console screens. (Obviously, I think, making the adjustment on one console screen affects all console screens.) If I adjust the brightness on a console screen, then switch to the login screen, then switch back to the console screen, the console screen has become dimmed again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55609d08.9000...@comcast.net
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El Sat, 23 May 2015 18:32:39 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 16:14 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 17:22:34 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Caray, pues sí que es raro que no arranque directamente y sí lo haga desde línea de comandos. Así a bote pronto no te sabría decir qué diferencia podría haber entre una situación y la otra como para evitar que el sistema se cargue normalmente. A ver, me parece que no me he explicado bien. Con recovery mode llego hasta el modo grafico: pantalla de seleccion de usuarios.. Hay una parada intermedia en la que se podria entrar en modo texto, pero con Ctrl-D continua hasta el final. Entonces ¿aún no has podido iniciar con GNOME classic, cerrar la sesión e intentar de nuevo con gnome-shell? Ya me parecía raro que funcionara :-) Sí, es posible pero mira, no te lo recomiendo. Nos vamos a tener que tragar systemd nos guste o no así que si algo no funciona mejor que ignorarlo es informar y que lo arreglen. Comparto contigo que nouveau no debería ser el culpable (y de hecho, si te ha iniciado gnome-shell con nouveau parece indicar que no lo es). Cierto es que gnome-shell ahora pide que el driver gráfico tenga soporte para EGL y no sé en qué estado se encontrará nouveau con esa característica (no olvidemos que nouveau es un desarrollo de ingeniería inversa ya que nvidia no proporciona código fuente alguno por lo que todo lo hacen a ciegas y pisando terreno pantanoso por eso los drivers propietarios de nvidia son bastante mejores que los de código abierto). Creo recordar haber intentado instalar el driver propietario (nvidia-legacy-304xx driver) pero sin ningun exito. Es mas, con un rato de trabajo, se queda colgado con la pantalla tipo tv-desincronizada. Jolines qué de problemas... ¿y con el driver de nvidia podías iniciar con gnome-shell? En fin, mejor sigamos con la prueba que está pendiente a ver qué sucede. Supongo que como la des/instalación la hice con Synaptic quizas quedase algo del paquete nouveau; ¿podria desmontarse todo lo dependiente de xserver-xorg-video-nouveau?¿quizas con aptitude?¿como seria el comando? No te adelantes, aún no sabemos qué falla. Por cierto: tampoco arranca archlinux (la version ultima 2015-05-01) pero si LinuxMint 17.1 que usa el kernel 3.13.0-37. Yo no creo que el kernel sea el problema, por lo que ido comentando simplemente es gnome-shell la que te esté dando guerra :-/ Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.05.23.16.42...@gmail.com
Fwd: Melhor alternativa de Backup para x empresas.
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Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:02:15 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 16:42 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) Entonces ¿aún no has podido iniciar con GNOME classic, cerrar la sesión e intentar de nuevo con gnome-shell? Ya me parecía raro que funcionara :-) Perdona, pero hay algo en lo que no te entiendo: mi secuencia ha sido la siguiente: 1. Arranco con recovery mode. 2. Cuando aparece la pregunta de usuario+password, le doy Ctrl-D y continua la carga hasta que aparece la pantalla de entrada grafica en la que esta mi nombre de cuenta. 3. Aparte de poner la pwd, selecciono el modo que quiera: predeterminado, gnome, gnome-classic y un 4º que no funciona. Entro y trabajo un rato, para ver que no se vuelve a quedar colgado-tv. 4. Puedo apagar o salir de sesion y volver a entrar con un modo diferente, sin problemas. Podrias decirme modo guia-burros, o sea al estilo americano, que quieres exactamente que haga. Se trata de saber si puedes o no iniciar en una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell. Antes has dicho que con gnome-classic accedes sin problemas, vale, pero ¿y con gnome-shell? ¿Qué sucede cuando seleccionas gnome-shell (gnome) cuando estás en el paso 3/? ¿Puedes iniciar sesión y trabajar con normalidad? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.05.23.17.14...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 17:14 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:02:15 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 16:42 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) Entonces ¿aún no has podido iniciar con GNOME classic, cerrar la sesión e intentar de nuevo con gnome-shell? Ya me parecía raro que funcionara :-) Perdona, pero hay algo en lo que no te entiendo: mi secuencia ha sido la siguiente: 1. Arranco con recovery mode. 2. Cuando aparece la pregunta de usuario+password, le doy Ctrl-D y continua la carga hasta que aparece la pantalla de entrada grafica en la que esta mi nombre de cuenta. 3. Aparte de poner la pwd, selecciono el modo que quiera: predeterminado, gnome, gnome-classic y un 4º que no funciona. Entro y trabajo un rato, para ver que no se vuelve a quedar colgado-tv. 4. Puedo apagar o salir de sesion y volver a entrar con un modo diferente, sin problemas. Podrias decirme modo guia-burros, o sea al estilo americano, que quieres exactamente que haga. Se trata de saber si puedes o no iniciar en una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell. Antes has dicho que con gnome-classic accedes sin problemas, vale, pero ¿y con gnome-shell? ¿Qué sucede cuando seleccionas gnome-shell (gnome) cuando estás en el paso 3/? ¿Puedes iniciar sesión y trabajar con normalidad? Si. Cuando arranco y llego por primera vez a la pantalla de entrada, puedo seleccionar predeterminado, gnome (los dos son el mismo) o gnome-classic. Entre en el que entre, puedo acabar sesion y volver a entrar desde otro modo distinto al anterior sin problemas. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1432401947.3425.29.camel@Mortadelo
KVM switch: DVI-D, DVI-I or vga?
Hi list, I am shopping locally here for a good KVM switch. For now, I am not even sure what type should I get. What are advantages to have DVI instead of VGA interface? Are there any justifications in price? VGA KVM is about $20, where is DVI is $100. If money is no object, DVI KVM is better than VGA? Thanks for all info you can share. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523103033.473c5...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: FreeBSD ou Linux
Le Sat, 23 May 2015 16:13:08 +0200, David S. ml+deb...@davidsanchez.fr a écrit : Le 2015-05-23 15:26, Qassem Debian a écrit : Bonjour, Je veux installer Debian,sur un Dell E5450,avec un noyau FreeBSD mais seulement j'hésite un peu...je ne sais pas si l'administration d'une Debian GNU/kFreeBSD est identique à celle d'une Debian avec noyau Linux.Quel est le shell par défaut? Les outils d'administrations sont-ils les mêmes que ceux offerts par le noyau Linux?... Quelqu'un voudrait bien m'aider à faire un choix éclairé? Bonjour, Si tu veux tester FreeBSD, teste directement la distribution source, la version FreeBSD de Debian ayant été abandonnée lors du passage à Jessie. My 2cts. D.S. bonjour, j'ai un petit faible pour puffy ( OpenBSD ) ... slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523164844.377470b2.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
Re: KVM switch: DVI-D, DVI-I or vga?
On Sat, 23 May 2015 16:53:37 +0200 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 10:30:33 -0400 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I am shopping locally here for a good KVM switch. For now, I am not even sure what type should I get. What are advantages to have DVI instead of VGA interface? Are there any justifications in price? VGA KVM is about $20, where is DVI is $100. If money is no object, DVI KVM is better than VGA? Thanks for all info you can share. DVI-D = digital, DVI-I = digital + analog, VGA = analog. Most of the monitors are DVI-D, right? Now, my attention was caught by DVI-I KVM because of affordable price. Do I need some sort of adapter for DVI-D monitor? How much it is usually running at? Or DVI-I will fit DVI-D output? Thanks One thing to be aware of is that you *might* get issues with HDCP (DRM) when using DVI. Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvi Petter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523111718.186e4...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: Jessie LVM2 et LUKS, problème pour activer le TRIM.
Merci pour le lien. J'ai déjà réalisé la configuration qu'il présent. Mais quand j'exécute # fstrim -v /home fstrim: /home: the discard operation is not supported Le 23 mai 2015 13:31, Gaël gag...@gmail.com a écrit : Hello ! Adrien: Bonjour à tous, Je désire activer le trim sur mon système Si tu parles un peu anglais, c'est grave bien expliqué ici : http://blog.neutrino.es/2013/howto-properly-activate-trim-for-your-ssd-on-linux-fstrim-lvm-and-dmcrypt/ tcho! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cagkqbrsw3g_i_l5idb8owsojconkm8y0bmwvpoh4qadxlo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 16:14 +, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 23 May 2015 17:22:34 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: Caray, pues sí que es raro que no arranque directamente y sí lo haga desde línea de comandos. Así a bote pronto no te sabría decir qué diferencia podría haber entre una situación y la otra como para evitar que el sistema se cargue normalmente. A ver, me parece que no me he explicado bien. Con recovery mode llego hasta el modo grafico: pantalla de seleccion de usuarios.. Hay una parada intermedia en la que se podria entrar en modo texto, pero con Ctrl-D continua hasta el final. Sí, es posible pero mira, no te lo recomiendo. Nos vamos a tener que tragar systemd nos guste o no así que si algo no funciona mejor que ignorarlo es informar y que lo arreglen. Comparto contigo que nouveau no debería ser el culpable (y de hecho, si te ha iniciado gnome-shell con nouveau parece indicar que no lo es). Cierto es que gnome-shell ahora pide que el driver gráfico tenga soporte para EGL y no sé en qué estado se encontrará nouveau con esa característica (no olvidemos que nouveau es un desarrollo de ingeniería inversa ya que nvidia no proporciona código fuente alguno por lo que todo lo hacen a ciegas y pisando terreno pantanoso por eso los drivers propietarios de nvidia son bastante mejores que los de código abierto). Creo recordar haber intentado instalar el driver propietario (nvidia-legacy-304xx driver) pero sin ningun exito. Es mas, con un rato de trabajo, se queda colgado con la pantalla tipo tv-desincronizada. Supongo que como la des/instalación la hice con Synaptic quizas quedase algo del paquete nouveau; ¿podria desmontarse todo lo dependiente de xserver-xorg-video-nouveau?¿quizas con aptitude?¿como seria el comando? Por cierto: tampoco arranca archlinux (la version ultima 2015-05-01) pero si LinuxMint 17.1 que usa el kernel 3.13.0-37. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1432398759.3425.13.camel@Mortadelo
Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian
On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). Going to abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be very portable in the next year or two. Two questions to begin: 1. Many laptops seem to only be able to turn off Secure Boot through the OS, Windows 8.x, or so I've researched. However, I've read some makes (Asus, Lenovo, Dell and HP) can do it directly through BIOS without needing to boot Windows? True? Any others? I don't have a laptop myself (don't like them), but every one I've seen so far has had a switch to disable Secure Boot in the BIOS. AFAIK, that switch is mandatory to adhere to the Built For Windows 8 MS program, although it is only optional for the coming Windows 10 program. That might be something to watch out for. I've read about that, but right now until W10 in its final form is release, nobody really knows for sure. If this is going to become a real problem or not, we will just have to wait and see. 2. How UEFI compatible is Debian Wheezy? What I'm running on the Desktop. Or is Jessie the better choice. Or something else entirely? Except Ubuntu variants (Hate it!). I don't want to run in Legacy mode for future compatibility. I won't be installing a desktop, just a window manager. Probably Openbox. You can find details here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch03s06.html.en#UEFI Yes, I read that during my initial research. I believe the Canonical people have put some effort into becoming fully Secure Boot-compliant, but if you do not like them, then that is not an option. There are also others (RedHat?) but I can't remember who. That compatibility comes from the Linux manufacturer buying a Microsoft Secure Boot key which Canonical and RH have. SUSE, too, I think. Don't know how much that costs them. I prefer not to have Linux under Microsoft's thumb that way. I have no problems with turning Secure Boot off and leaving it off. It's just that I fear that in the future one won't be able to turn it off. And that will really throw a wrench in the Linux community. We'll see. Thanks for your input. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523090455.73d0c...@debian7.boseck208.net
Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian
On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:04:55 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). Going to abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be very portable in the next year or two. Two questions to begin: 1. Many laptops seem to only be able to turn off Secure Boot through the OS, Windows 8.x, or so I've researched. However, I've read some makes (Asus, Lenovo, Dell and HP) can do it directly through BIOS without needing to boot Windows? True? Any others? I don't have a laptop myself (don't like them), but every one I've seen so far has had a switch to disable Secure Boot in the BIOS. AFAIK, that switch is mandatory to adhere to the Built For Windows 8 MS program, although it is only optional for the coming Windows 10 program. That might be something to watch out for. I've read about that, but right now until W10 in its final form is release, nobody really knows for sure. Well, yes and no. We *do* know that the status has changed from mandatory to optional, but whether hardware manufacturers will actually remove the ability to turn Secure Boot off remains to be seen. If this is going to become a real problem or not, we will just have to wait and see. 2. How UEFI compatible is Debian Wheezy? What I'm running on the Desktop. Or is Jessie the better choice. Or something else entirely? Except Ubuntu variants (Hate it!). I don't want to run in Legacy mode for future compatibility. I won't be installing a desktop, just a window manager. Probably Openbox. You can find details here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch03s06.html.en#UEFI Yes, I read that during my initial research. I believe the Canonical people have put some effort into becoming fully Secure Boot-compliant, but if you do not like them, then that is not an option. There are also others (RedHat?) but I can't remember who. That compatibility comes from the Linux manufacturer buying a Microsoft Secure Boot key which Canonical and RH have. SUSE, too, I think. Don't know how much that costs them. I prefer not to have Linux under Microsoft's thumb that way. I absolutely agree. I have no problems with turning Secure Boot off and leaving it off. It's just that I fear that in the future one won't be able to turn it off. And that will really throw a wrench in the Linux community. We'll see. The Linux Foundation is also examining the possibility of obtaining a key that can be used to sign images for distributions (free of charge), and there is also work being done on signing a shim that will launch a real bootloader. As the Perl people lovingly remind us, there's more than one way to do it :) Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpWNbZuGkvwx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
CLI download interface/tool for Google Images?
I like to use Google Images as a way to get images but I don't like the interface which involves looking at hundreds of tiny thumbs and clicking on numerous links to download a single image. I wonder, did anyone do a tool so you can just type, e.g. $ google-img-dl -s 1024x768 -n 100 jungle to download the 100 first jungle hits that are of size 1024x768? Then you can use whatever software to examine the material and decide what to use and what to discard. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87vbfjyzvy@debian.uxu
Re: Query about possible impact of leap second on Debian Linux
Bret Busby wrote: And, with Debian 6 LTS, in /etc/apt/sources.list, I have, apart from the commented out lines, deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free deb http://http.debian.net/debian squeeze-lts main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian squeeze-lts main contrib non-free I am only commenting for the archive to confirm that those should be good. Here are references for those reading later and wish to check for updated information. https://wiki.debian.org/LTS https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: CLI download interface/tool for Google Images?
On Sat, 2015-05-23 at 19:20 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: I like to use Google Images as a way to get images but I don't like the interface which involves looking at hundreds of tiny thumbs and clicking on numerous links to download a single image. I wonder, did anyone do a tool so you can just type, e.g. $ google-img-dl -s 1024x768 -n 100 jungle to download the 100 first jungle hits that are of size 1024x768? Then you can use whatever software to examine the material and decide what to use and what to discard. I have seen a couple of different scripts that scrape the image search, for example: https://github.com/tytek2012/givemepics I haven't tried it myself though, and do be careful when trying random scripts found on the web :) If that doesn't work, I don't think it can be too hard to write something form scratch, either scraping the results or using Googles APIs? HTH, -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Boot menu entries
Lisi Reisz wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: The newest latest kernel installed is on the bottom. Not here. I have the oldest on the bottom. lisi@Tux-II:~$ dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-* linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16-0.bpo.2-amd64 linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16-0.bpo.3-amd64 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 lisi@Tux-II:~$ I got caught by version sorting lexicographical! Good catch! I had the same two with 3.2 and 3.16 too but didn't see it because for me those were buried in the middle. I guess I could have used the ls --sort=version sort to sort the order first. Just because I am pedantic try this: $ dpkg -S $(ls -v /boot/vmlinuz-*) linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.39-2-amd64 linux-image-3.0.0-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-2-amd64 linux-image-3.1.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.1.0-1-amd64 linux-image-3.2.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-1-amd64 linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-amd64 linux-image-3.2.0-3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-3-amd64 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-image-3.8-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8-2-amd64 linux-image-3.9-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9-1-amd64 linux-image-3.10-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-1-amd64 linux-image-3.10-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-2-amd64 linux-image-3.10-3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-3-amd64 linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 linux-image-4.0.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-4.0.0-1-amd64 The docs on ls -v are: ‘-v’ ‘--sort=version’ Sort by version name and number, lowest first. It behaves like a default sort, except that each sequence of decimal digits is treated numerically as an index/version number. :-) Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: CLI download interface/tool for Google Images?
Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se writes: I have seen a couple of different scripts that scrape the image search, for example: https://github.com/tytek2012/givemepics That didn't work, and the style of the program including the documentation tells me it isn't mature in more than one sense of the word... If that doesn't work, I don't think it can be too hard to write something form scratch, either scraping the results or using Googles APIs? If you do it, please tell me :) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87fv6nyvh8@debian.uxu
Re: Fwd: rc.local and systemd
Hi Michael, thanks for your prompt reply. Am Montag, 18. Mai 2015, 22:21:42 schrieb Michael Biebl: Am 18.05.2015 um 22:01 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: root@nanette:~# systemctl status rc-local.service ● rc-local.service - /etc/rc.local Compatibility Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service; static) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2015-05-18 14:29:04 CEST; 7h ago May 18 14:29:02 nanette rc.local[741]: Loaded 750 prior measurements May 18 14:29:04 nanette rc.local[741]: Error opening terminal: unknown. May 18 14:29:04 nanette rc.local[741]: RAPL device for cpu 0 May 18 14:29:04 nanette rc.local[741]: RAPL device for cpu 0 May 18 14:29:04 nanette rc.local[741]: RAPL device for cpu 0 May 18 14:29:04 nanette systemd[1]: rc-local.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1 May 18 14:29:04 nanette systemd[1]: Failed to start /etc/rc.local Compatibility. May 18 14:29:04 nanette systemd[1]: Unit rc-local.service entered failed state. root@nanette:~# So, as you can see, /etc/rc.local *is* run. As you can also see, powertop exits with a non-zero return code. Since /etc/rc.local uses set -e, your script exits at this point and the service is marked as failed. Everything working as expected from the systemd side. Hmmseems that systemd does not define the TERM variable. Defining that at least makes powertop performing the expected settings. Nevertheless I am still wondering why it has the failed status, rc.local has an hard exit 0 return code (?) : rd@nanette:/etc$ diff -u rc.local~ rc.local --- rc.local~ 2015-01-31 15:34:33.044782111 +0100 +++ rc.local2015-05-23 14:27:42.043875921 +0200 @@ -11,6 +11,6 @@ # # By default this script does nothing. -powertop --auto-tune +TERM=vt100 powertop --auto-tune exit 0 rd@nanette:/etc$ systemctl status rc-local.service ● rc-local.service - /etc/rc.local Compatibility Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service; static) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sat 2015-05-23 12:26:46 CEST; 8h ago Process: 795 ExecStart=/etc/rc.local start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) rd@nanette:/etc$ cat rc.local #!/bin/sh -e # # rc.local # # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. # Make sure that the script will exit 0 on success or any other # value on error. # # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution # bits. # # By default this script does nothing. TERM=vt100 powertop --auto-tune exit 0 rd@nanette:/etc$ Thanks, Rainer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2566366.HTGLlFCDbi@nanette
Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi
El Sat, 23 May 2015 19:25:47 +0200, CZOMCA escribió: El sáb, 23-05-2015 a las 17:14 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) Podrias decirme modo guia-burros, o sea al estilo americano, que quieres exactamente que haga. Se trata de saber si puedes o no iniciar en una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell. Antes has dicho que con gnome-classic accedes sin problemas, vale, pero ¿y con gnome-shell? ¿Qué sucede cuando seleccionas gnome-shell (gnome) cuando estás en el paso 3/? ¿Puedes iniciar sesión y trabajar con normalidad? Si. Cuando arranco y llego por primera vez a la pantalla de entrada, puedo seleccionar predeterminado, gnome (los dos son el mismo) o gnome-classic. Entre en el que entre, puedo acabar sesion y volver a entrar desde otro modo distinto al anterior sin problemas. Es decir, que puedes estar trabajando normalmente con gnome-shell sin problemas ¿es así? Si es así, ya no se trata de un problema de gnome-shell ni de la gráfica ni del kernel, hay que averiguar por qué no se carga el gestor de sesiones (GDM) al iniciar. Bien, pues inicia en modo rescate y accede a una sesión gráfica con gnome- shell, vete a una consola y como root ejecuta journalctl -b log.txt y sube a www.pastebin.com el archivo completo (lo tendrás en /root/ log.txt). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.05.23.19.19...@gmail.com
Re: Fwd: rc.local and systemd
Am 23.05.2015 um 20:56 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: Am Montag, 18. Mai 2015, 22:21:42 schrieb Michael Biebl: As you can also see, powertop exits with a non-zero return code. Since /etc/rc.local uses set -e, your script exits at this point and the service is marked as failed. .. Hmmseems that systemd does not define the TERM variable. Defining that at least makes powertop performing the expected settings. Nevertheless I am still wondering why it has the failed status, rc.local has an hard exit 0 return code (?) : The exit 0 is useless since, as already explained, the script use set -e. If a command returns a non-zero exit status, the script will stop at this point and return that exit status. Which means you'll never reach exit 0 in such a case. From help set -e Exit immediately if a command exits with a non-zero status. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: KVM switch: DVI-D, DVI-I or vga?
On Sat, 23 May 2015 11:18:16 -0700 David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 05/23/2015 07:30 AM, German wrote: I am shopping locally here for a good KVM switch. For now, I am not even sure what type should I get. What are advantages to have DVI instead of VGA interface? Are there any justifications in price? VGA KVM is about $20, where is DVI is $100. If money is no object, DVI KVM is better than VGA? Thanks for all info you can share. I run and work on many different makes and models of PC-compatible computers. VGA and PS/2 are the lowest-common-denominator interfaces -- especially for servers, retail point of sale, and business desktops. So, I have an 8-port KVM with VGA and PS/2 connectors, and a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to match. I use various PS/2-to-USB, DVI-I-to-VGA, DisplayPort-to-VGA, etc., adapters at the computer end of the KVM cables. I don't use USB or microphones through the KVM. I use a passive line-level mixer for speakers. Determining compatibility before making a purchase is tough. Hardware tends to be identified by product manufacturer name and model number, while software (device drivers) tends to be identified by chip manufacturer name and part number. After searching and reading whatever you can, you will need to buy a KVM, plug it in, and find out for yourself. Make sure you buy the KVM through a vendor that will allow you to use it for a week or two, and return it if you don't like it. I went through several KVM's before finding one (IOGEAR GCS78) that worked reliably with Windows and Linux, and put the hotkeys where they didn't interfere with other applications (notably games). David Thanks for your thoughts, David. You have mentioned adapters. So it makes sense to use for instance vga-to-dvi adapter? How about the quality of this connection? Is this worth it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150523143852.167fa...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: KVM switch: DVI-D, DVI-I or vga?
On 05/23/2015 11:38 AM, German wrote: So it makes sense to use for instance vga-to-dvi adapter? How about the quality of this connection? Is this worth it? My DVI-I-to-VGA adapter came with my Intel motherboard and seems to work without problems or visual artifacts (signal degradation). I suspect that it is a passive device that simply wires through the right pins and/or sockets for the analog signal path. I assume there are VGA-to-DVI-I adapters, but I haven't had the need and don't own one. A key specification for devices that pass analog video is the bandwidth -- the higher the better. That shouldn't be a problem today, but... As for quality and worth, that's up to you to measure and decide. As with the KVM, researching adapters can be tough and the only way to find out for sure is to buy one and try it. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5560d208.7070...@holgerdanske.com
Re: KVM switch: DVI-D, DVI-I or vga?
German wrote: I am shopping locally here for a good KVM switch. For now, I am not even sure what type should I get. What are advantages to have DVI instead of VGA interface? Are there any justifications in price? VGA KVM is about $20, where is DVI is $100. If money is no object, DVI KVM is better than VGA? Thanks for all info you can share. There is, in my opinion, a significant difference in visual quality between the digital and analog display feeds. For me I might not pay $100 for a digital KVM but I also would not give up my digital display feed for an analog KVM one either. Analog was okay for lower resolution CRT analog monitors. Higher resolution LCD monitors really look a lot better with a digital feel than with an analog feed. Feeding a large high resolution LCD monitor with an analog VGA feed in my opinion really looks terrible. There are dynamic artifacts. It's awful. My advice is to try it yourself. Try two tests side by side. One being an analog feed of your display and the other being a digital feed of your display. It's a brain thing and maybe for your brain you will look at it and go, I don't see anything significant there. If so that is great. Don't spend any money on it. On the other hand you may be like me and find the analog feed to the LCD monitor to be really pretty annoying. You should try it and see how it works for you. Another possibility is that a lot of monitors have both an analog VGA and a digital DVI input and can switch between them using the monitor's on screen display. You could plug the KVM into the analog VGA for some light use but still use the digital DVI for your main work and enjoy the full quality resolution there. Just an idea. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
No sound at boot
I have a decent setup with an ASUS ROG motherboard (overkill for Linux, I know). I was tooling along nicely, when, after an update (back when Jessie was Testing), sound quit working at boot. Of course, the first thing I tried was root@persephone:~# modprobe snd-hda-intel and that got me sound again. However, I have to run it manually after every boot. What steps do I need to take to get it to load at boot again? Re-Installing ALSA does nothing, of course, and I guess I have no Google skills, because all I can find with Google is advice to reinstall ALSA. MArk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/556153a7.8080...@allums.top
Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian
On Sat, 23 May 2015 12:46:10 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:04:55 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: I've read about that, but right now until W10 in its final form is release, nobody really knows for sure. Well, yes and no. We *do* know that the status has changed from mandatory to optional, but whether hardware manufacturers will actually remove the ability to turn Secure Boot off remains to be seen. Yes. I read that. Wonder what Microsoft has up its sleeve? If I were to guess, this is in preparation for at some point in the future requiring Secure Boot to be used, without the ability to turn it off. You know, think of the children!. Maybe, this is indicative of W10 being even more insecure than previous Windows' OSes. Secure Boot itself is not actually such a bad idea, in some circumstances it might be nice to have a fully signed chain. IMHO. In itself, it should help to make Windows *more* secure, but this is hardly the right place for that particular discussion. Nor do I care :) I have no problems with turning Secure Boot off and leaving it off. It's just that I fear that in the future one won't be able to turn it off. And that will really throw a wrench in the Linux community. We'll see. The Linux Foundation is also examining the possibility of obtaining a key that can be used to sign images for distributions (free of charge), and there is also work being done on signing a shim that will launch a real bootloader. As the Perl people lovingly remind us, there's more than one way to do it :) Where there's a will, there's a way I suppose. Although, instead of a patch or shim, the threat of a class action lawsuit by Linux developers might be more effective. Hardware manufacturers will have to take into account the fact that there are a large number of people and organizations that run their machines without Windows, so I don't think there will be a lack of machines that can turn Secure Boot off in the near future. But will it become something to watch out for when buying new hardware? Most certainly, at least for a period of time. I have a sneaking suspicion that it might become a bigger problem for laptop users than for desktop users, although I'm unable to back that up. For those of us who prefer to build their own machines, I think it will be much less of a problem. The cleanest option would probably be to allow the owner of the machine to install his/her own keys in the firmware, and sign the boot image with those. And we still have legacy mode. For now. In my view, a solution for Linux that doesn't work for our BSD brethren and other people would not be good enough - we shouldn't settle for it. I remember all too well how hard it was to get Linux (or BSD, for that matter) up and running with new hardware back in the day, and I don't want a return to that state of things. There may very well be another Linus quietly tinkering away at something that might become the Next Big Thing out there, and it would be a shame if we were to limit hardware to not make that possible. I am also not sure MS really _wants_ to lock Linux/others out of the playing field. If they do, I assume the murmurs of class-action and anti-competition would rise in pitch, and someone might do something that could *really* hurt them. They really should work with the community to come up with a solution that works for everyone before someone forces them to. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgppYMaPIKOqg.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Re: Problem Running Application with Alias
On Sat, 23 May 2015 14:28:54 -0600 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Petter Adsen wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:36:31 -0400 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mopac/MOPAC2012.exe:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH This is an obvious thing that jumps out at me, this line should be: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/mopac:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH as LD_LIBRARY_PATH is meant to contain directories where shared libraries can be found, not an executable binary. I have a small comment concerning the syntax. I am sure you are correct about the problem. But both of those assume that $LD_LIBRARY_PATH already exists in the environment. If it does then fine. Let me use foo as a stand-in for the explanation. $ foo=/bar $ foo=/opt/somepath:$foo $ echo $foo /opt/somepath:/bar But if it does not exist then it leaves the environment variable with a hanging colon at the end. Oooops, sorry. Another thing I should have mentioned last night, but I was getting really tired: On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:36:31 -0400 Sephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The permissions for /opt/mopac are: drwxrwxrwx ^ In this case, adding /opt/mopac to /etc/ld.so.conf without first fixing up the permissions is probably not a good idea either. The shell expansion I must admit I didn't even think about. Thanks, Bob. Petter PS: What _are_ the security implications of having a PATH set to /foo/bar:? -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpgrT8pCQ5QT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: No sound at boot
On Sat, 23 May 2015 23:29:27 -0500 Mark Allums m...@allums.top wrote: I have a decent setup with an ASUS ROG motherboard (overkill for Linux, I know). I was tooling along nicely, when, after an update (back when Jessie was Testing), sound quit working at boot. Of course, the first thing I tried was root@persephone:~# modprobe snd-hda-intel and that got me sound again. However, I have to run it manually after every boot. What steps do I need to take to get it to load at boot again? Re-Installing ALSA does nothing, of course, and I guess I have no Google skills, because all I can find with Google is advice to reinstall ALSA. Take a look in /etc/modules-load.d - you can add a file called, say, sound.conf there with the contents: snd-hda-intel That should load that module on boot. I haven't tested it, as I've never had the need to force a module to load in recent years, but it should work. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpUtt6KP1gke.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
