Re: a command with a long list of options

2015-09-16 Thread rlharris
On Wed, September 16, 2015 12:33 am, p...@aztec.co.za wrote:
> enscript() { command enscript --verbose --media=letter -2 --landscape
> --borders --header='$n|A.D. $D{%Y.%m.%d}|$* gmt | Page $% of $=' $@
> }

I cut and pasted the above definition into ~/.bashrc and then restarted
the machine to ensure that .bashrc was being read.  But the only response
I get is:

$ enscript howto.enscript
AFM: scanning path...
AFM: reading font map "/usr/share/enscript/afm/font.map"
processing file ""...

What did I do wrong?

RLH







Re: a command with a long list of options

2015-09-16 Thread Dr. Volker Thieme
CONFIGURATION FILES
   Enscript reads configuration information from the following sources (in 
this  order):  command  line  options,
   environment variable ENSCRIPT, user's personal configuration file 
($HOME/.enscriptrc), site configuration file
   (/etc/enscriptsite.cfg) and system's global configuration file 
(/etc/enscript.cfg).


One solution:

> ENSCRIPT= —verbose —media=letter -2 —landscape —borders ….

The personal configuration resides in ~/.enscriptrc and NOT in ~/.enscript.cfg. 
esncript.cfg is the global config and resides in /etc/enscript.cfg

Regards!



> On 16 Sep 2015, at 08:04, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> 
> On Wed, September 16, 2015 12:33 am, p...@aztec.co.za wrote:
>> enscript() { command enscript --verbose --media=letter -2 --landscape
>> --borders --header='$n|A.D. $D{%Y.%m.%d}|$* gmt | Page $% of $=' $@
>> }
> 
> I cut and pasted the above definition into ~/.bashrc and then restarted
> the machine to ensure that .bashrc was being read.  But the only response
> I get is:
> 
> $ enscript howto.enscript
> AFM: scanning path...
> AFM: reading font map "/usr/share/enscript/afm/font.map"
> processing file ""...
> 
> What did I do wrong?
> 
> RLH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: a command with a long list of options

2015-09-16 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> enscript --verbose --media=letter -2 --landscape --borders --header='$n|A.D. 
> $D{%Y.%m.%d}|$* gmt | Page $% of $=' filename
> ...
> can I define in bash an alias or something

The job is somewhat too big for a bash alias.
But there is the old concept of a shell script.

Use your favorite text editor to open a file in your
$HOME directory. E.g.:

  vi ~/my_enscript

Write as first line the address of the program that shall
interpret your script. Prepend it by "#!" :

  #!/bin/bash

Then write your command line, replacing the filename by "$1"

  enscript --verbose --media=letter -2 --landscape --borders \
   --header='$n|A.D. $D{%Y.%m.%d}|$* gmt | Page $% of $=' \
   "$1"

(I split the long line by backslashes for better readbility.)

Store the file and leave the editor.
Back in the shell give the file x-permission for its owner:

  chmod o+x ~/my_enscript

To run your script with file "filename", execute in the shell

  ~/my_enscript filename

"$1" in the script will get replaced by the first argument of your
command line. I.e by "filename".


Have a look at your shell variable $PATH. It tells a list of
directories where scripts and programs are looked up if their
name contains no "/".

  echo $PATH

might put out something like

  /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/home/thomas/bin

So if i would put "my_script" into /home/thomas/bin then it would
be found by bash without the leading "~/":

  my_enscript filename


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



Why "Midori" web browser is not there in Debian 8 jessie?

2015-09-16 Thread muntasimulhaque
Hi,
I couldn't find the package "midori" in Debian 8 jessie. I searched in Debian 
Packages archive, and found that Midori web browser was there in Squeeze, 
Wheezy, and it's here in Sid; but not in jessie. Why midori is not available 
for jessie?

With thanks,
Muntasim Ul Haque


Re: a command with a long list of options

2015-09-16 Thread rlharris
On Wed, September 16, 2015 1:33 am, p...@aztec.co.za wrote:
> Bleh, try to enclose the $@ at end of line with quotes, ie.
>
> "$@"
>
> Also, you don't need to restart the machine.  You can reread the .bashrc
> file with:
>
> . ~/.bashrc

So I did, but I get the error message:

$ enscript howto.enscript
enscript:/home/rlh/.enscriptrc:4: illegal option: --verbose

I need to look at this in the morning.  Goodnight, all.

RLH





Re: a command with a long list of options

2015-09-16 Thread Dr. Volker Thieme
The file is ~/.enscriptrc without a dot.. :-) 

Regards!



> On 16 Sep 2015, at 08:49, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> 
> On Wed, September 16, 2015 1:26 am, Dr. Volker Thieme wrote:
>> Enscript reads configuration information from the following sources (in
>> this  order):  command  line  options, environment variable ENSCRIPT,
>> user's personal configuration file ($HOME/.enscriptrc), site
>> configuration file (/etc/enscriptsite.cfg) and system's global
>> configuration file (/etc/enscript.cfg).
> ...
>> The personal configuration resides in ~/.enscriptrc and NOT in
>> ~/.enscript.cfg. esncript.cfg is the global config and resides in
>> /etc/enscript.cfg
> 
> Forgive me; it is way past my bedtime, and I did not catch the "...rc".
> 
> But when I changed the name of .enscript.cfg to .enscript.rc and tried to
> print a simple text file "howto.enscript", I get the error:
> 
> $ enscript howto.enscript
> enscript:/home/rlh/.enscriptrc:4: illegal option: --verbose
> bash: --header=$n|A.D. $D{%Y.%m.%d}|$* gmt | Page $% of $=: command not found
> 
> RLH
> 
> 



Re: Why "Midori" web browser is not there in Debian 8 jessie?

2015-09-16 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 09/16/2015 09:29 AM, muntasimulha...@tutamail.com wrote:

Hi,
I couldn't find the package "midori" in Debian 8 jessie. I searched in 
Debian Packages archive, and found that Midori web browser was there 
in Squeeze, Wheezy, and it's here in Sid; but not in jessie. Why 
midori is not available for jessie?


Hi,
This is the package status: https://packages.qa.debian.org/m/midori.html
As you see, there rae still unresolved problems
Some problems block the integration to a stable release.


Re: a command with a long list of options

2015-09-16 Thread rlharris
On Wed, September 16, 2015 1:26 am, Dr. Volker Thieme wrote:
> Enscript reads configuration information from the following sources (in
> this  order):  command  line  options, environment variable ENSCRIPT,
> user's personal configuration file ($HOME/.enscriptrc), site
> configuration file (/etc/enscriptsite.cfg) and system's global
> configuration file (/etc/enscript.cfg).
...
> The personal configuration resides in ~/.enscriptrc and NOT in
> ~/.enscript.cfg. esncript.cfg is the global config and resides in
> /etc/enscript.cfg

Forgive me; it is way past my bedtime, and I did not catch the "...rc".

But when I changed the name of .enscript.cfg to .enscript.rc and tried to
print a simple text file "howto.enscript", I get the error:

$ enscript howto.enscript
enscript:/home/rlh/.enscriptrc:4: illegal option: --verbose
bash: --header=$n|A.D. $D{%Y.%m.%d}|$* gmt | Page $% of $=: command not found

RLH




Re: Debian sid transition to KDE 5?

2015-09-16 Thread Joe
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 22:00:09 -0400
Cindy-Sue Causey  wrote:

> On 9/15/15, Javier Barroso  wrote:
> >
> > What apt-mark showhold says ? Maybe there is some packages on hold
> > status? What apt-cache policy apt says ? (apt is only one of the
> > packages which doesn't want to upgrade on your system)
> > What apt (or apt-get) install apt says (after apt update)? (try to
> > upgrade only apt, to see what happen)
> >
> > I'm not sure why there are these 529 packags in a non upgradable
> > status. I have 164 packages installed that are on your list, and all
> > upgraded to the latest unstable version (105 of them has lib on
> > their names) on this system
> 
> 
> For a split second, I was pondering the same about Joe's experience
> with libreoffice. Mine's fine, been fine for a little while (SORRY,
> JOE!). My libreoffice had issues like maybe twice but no problems
> since then. It must surely be something about our personal *_CHOICE_*
> of package combinations and how all the packages each user chooses
> interacts amongst themselves in each almost singularly definable
> setup.
> 

Yes, it is. apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade libreoffice, but at the
cost of other packages. I may try it anyway, as there seems to be a
good chance I can get gimp back immediately.

-- 
Joe



Re: Package: torsocks

2015-09-16 Thread juke
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 02:57:37AM +, eknadek...@ruggedinbox.com wrote:
> est-ce quelq'un(e) sait comment s'y prendre ?

installe la version packagée https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/torsocks


> est-ce une version immature ou non suffisament testé ?

C'est aux developpeurs du logiciel de répondre. 


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Re: GRSecurity Closes Stable Patch to Linux Kernel. How do you feel about this?

2015-09-16 Thread tomas
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> On 15/09/15 17:37, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > So if you want to do a service to humankind, stop whining, cough
> > up the $200 and redistribute GRSecurity. All happy. You could try
> > to recoup some of your costs by asking for some contributions.
> 
> … and be prepared for all the former GRSecurity freeloaders to come
> along and start downloading the stable branch from you instead.

Well -- that's what you get into with GPL. Probably GRSecurity wouldn't
have a business case at all weren't it for the GPL of the Linux kernel.

> It's a shame they had to go down that road, but it was the companies
> that saw it as a "free beer" kernel for their devices rather than as
> an open kernel.  i.e. they're expected to contribute something in return.

That sucks, especially considering that those $200 are probably petty
change for Wind River. I think there are several "venues of attack":

 (1) Naming and Shaming. Always very effective.
 (2) Trademark ("yeah, include our product, but don't use our name").
 Combined with (1) might do wonders.
 (3) Close scrutiny of GPL compliance (are they really making all
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Re: Debian sid transition to KDE 5?

2015-09-16 Thread Joe
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 22:26:30 +0200
Siard  wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:41 +0100, Joe wrote:
> > apt-get dist-upgrade comes up with a solution, but wants to remove
> > forty or fifty packages, including gimp, which I use regularly.
> 
> I did an apt-get dist-upgrade.  It removed gimp, aptitude and
> kde-full, among others.  Immediately after that, I could reinstall
> gimp.  A couple of days later, I could reinstall aptitude, and some
> week later I could reinstall kde-full.
> Now all dependency problems have gone and everything looks fine, even
> with deb-multimedia in sources.list.  [stretch]
> 

OK, thanks, I may give it a go when I have a bit of time.

-- 
Joe



Re: Poor SSD RAID0 Performance

2015-09-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
ray a écrit :
> 
> Using Linux software RAID0, my speed (MB/s) findings are:
>   Single SSDRAID0, 2 SSDs
> Intel SATA III540   960
> Intel SATA II 530   535

SATA II has a maximum throughput of 300 MB/s, so I wonder how you can
reach 530 MB/s with a single disk.

> Marvel SATA III   535   750



Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly

2015-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 02:59:27 Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Wow!  My original post.  First time that's happened in two years.  And
> I didn't do anything.  Wonder what happened?

What do you mean?

Lisi



Re: Instalar Proxmox en Asus P8-H81M-D

2015-09-16 Thread Yoandy Madrazo Gómez



El 15/09/2015 a las 10:31 PM, Angel Claudio Alvarez escribió:

El Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:01:56 -0400
Yoandy Madrazo Gómez  escribió:


Hola a todos, resulta que tengo una pc que venía con W7, la borré para
instalarle proxmox, el proceso de instalación se hace sin problemas pero
la pc no levanta el proxmox sino que me manda directo para el SETUP de
esta. Alguna forma?

Te equivocaste de lista
Esta no es una lista de proxmox y, a pedido de Felix,
esta no es la lista de camaleon
En el sitio de proxmox tenes detallados los distintos tipos de ayuda

Acaso sabes que cosa es Proxmox, para tu información es un debian con 
herramientas propias para la virtualización, cuando en esta lista se 
hacen preguntas sobre squid o postfix por solo citar par de ejemplos 
nadie anda diciendo que no son listas de esos softwares así que si no 
vas a ayudar mejor borras el correo y ya.


Saludos, Yoandy

Saludos








Re: xorg-server not exists in my stretch

2015-09-16 Thread mudongliang


On 09/16/2015 07:20 PM, Martin Read wrote:
> On 16/09/15 12:10, mudongliang wrote:
>>  mdl@NjuMdl:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-server
>>  Reading package lists... Done
>>  Building dependency tree
>>  Reading state information... Done
>>  E: Unable to locate package xorg-server
>
> The package you are looking for is "xserver-xorg", not "xorg-server".
>
If this is not the reason, I don't know why vmware 12 in my stretch
cannot boot!
How can I find the log of upgrading softwares?
I want to find any difference.
Thank you!
- mudongliang 




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Debian hangs on qemu at fb: "switching to bochsdrmfb from simple"

2015-09-16 Thread Robert S
I have cloned a running debian system onto a qemu virtual machine for
testing purposes.

If I put a "vga=" statement on the kernel command line (eg. vga=795),
it hangs during bootup.  If I add the 'debug' statement, it hangs
after the following:

[  29.125399] fb: switching to bochsdrmfb from simple

I am using the following command to launch debian:

qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -net nic,macaddr=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx -net
tap,ifname=tun0,script=no,downscript=no -m 1000 -usbdevice mouse -vnc
192.168.0.40:0 -monitor /dev/stderr $@

I can fix this by adding "vga=normal" to the command line, but I'd
like to have more control over the screen resolution.

Can somebody propose a fix?



xorg-server not exists in my stretch

2015-09-16 Thread mudongliang
Hi , everyone:
Today I find my vmware-workstation cannot boot in granphics. I try
to reinstall the package , but without no any effect.
So I try to solve this problem by google. FinallyI found xorg-server
is not existed in my stretch.

mdl@NjuMdl:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-server
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package xorg-server

What's going on ?
- mudongliang


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Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly

2015-09-16 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-09-15 at 19:17 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Yes, I know.  HAL has been deprecated in Debian in favor of udev for
> about 3 or 4 years.  But other distros like Ubuntu and Mint still use
> it.

No, it was removed from Ubuntu in trusty AFAICT.

Looks like Mint is or was shipping this: 
https://github.com/cshorler/hal-flash

It's a minimal HAL to satisfy the DRM in Flash. 


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Trouble sur une configuration openvpn

2015-09-16 Thread Yann Cohen
Bonjour,

Je rencontre des problèmes de connexions de temps en temps sur une
architecture avec un serveur openvpn.

Le serveur est directement sur Internet.
Il y a deux clients sur 3G sans adresse publique, et un qui se balade
sur des réseaux domestiques ou professionnels toujours en connexion
filaire.

De temps en temps les clients n'arrivent pas à se connecter sur le
serveur avec des TLS handcheck error pendant un certain temps (plusieurs
heures) puis la connexion revient et reste "stable" plusieurs jours.

Il n'y a aucune manipulation sur des firewall entre les clients et le
serveur.

La dernière perte de connexion a eu lieu après que le routeur 3G ait
changé d'adresse IP, le client détecte une perte du ping et tente une
réconnexion qui n'aboutie pas sur le serveur (aucune trace dans les log
serveur, mais des traces d'erreur TLS dans le log client).

Je cherche à comprendre sur le client linux qui héberge le client
openvpn, ce qui ne fonctionne pas : voit-il le routeur de sortie ?
voit-il le serveur openvpn au travers routeur 3G ?...

Quelles autres pistes puis-je tester ?

Cordialement.

Yann.






Re: Package: torsocks

2015-09-16 Thread andre_debian
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 04:57:37 eknadek...@ruggedinbox.com wrote:
> Homepage: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git
> une version 2.x est disponible sur git.
> c'est la version préconisée.

Torsocks est une application pour Linux, BSD et Mac OSX qui vous permettra 
d'utiliser des applications réseau tels que SSH, IRSSI avec Tor.

Intéressante appli.

http://www.crazyws.fr/securite/torsocks-une-surcouche-de-tor-a-posseder-BBSC6.html

André



Re: Poor SSD RAID0 Performance

2015-09-16 Thread ray
On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 2:50:05 AM UTC-5, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> ray a écrit :
> > 
> > Using Linux software RAID0, my speed (MB/s) findings are:
> > Single SSDRAID0, 2 SSDs
> > Intel SATA III540   960
> > Intel SATA II 530   535
> 
> SATA II has a maximum throughput of 300 MB/s, so I wonder how you can
> reach 530 MB/s with a single disk.
> 
> > Marvel SATA III   535   750

Pascal,

Thank you for pointing that out.  I will go back and retest it, maybe I will 
find what I did wrong.



Re: xorg-server not exists in my stretch

2015-09-16 Thread Martin Read

On 16/09/15 12:10, mudongliang wrote:

 mdl@NjuMdl:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-server
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to locate package xorg-server


The package you are looking for is "xserver-xorg", not "xorg-server".



Re: xorg-server not exists in my stretch

2015-09-16 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/16/15, mudongliang  wrote:
>
> On 09/16/2015 07:20 PM, Martin Read wrote:
>>
>> The package you are looking for is "xserver-xorg", not "xorg-server".
>>
> If this is not the reason, I don't know why vmware 12 in my stretch
> cannot boot!
> How can I find the log of upgrading softwares?
> I want to find any difference.
> Thank you!


Are you maybe looking for something like /var/log/apt/history.log? If
you have a lot of upgrade history behind you, there MIGHT also be
additional backed up archive files named similar to history.log.1.gz,
history.log.2.gz, etc, in that same /var/log/apt directory. If that
does NOT exist on your system for any reason, maybe someone else knows
of an alternative route to the same information.

Hope you find what you're looking for there. Mine does seem to be
referencing a before and after [version number].

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* oh, the weather outside is fabulous *



Re: sobre cache squid

2015-09-16 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:10:44 -0400, Leo escribió:

> Hola a todos en la lista, les escribo con un pequeño problema de cache
> con squid
> 
> En mi red los usuarios entran mucho a www.cubadebate.cu y las noticias
> me salen del dia 1ero de septiembre.

Habrás generado una interferencia en el espacio-tiempo entre tu squid y 
los usuarios, lo que se viene a conocer como "agujero de calamar" :-P

> entre en
> 
> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/
OperatingSquid#I_want_to_restart_Squid_with_a_clean_cache
> 
> y realice todos los pasos que ahi salen, 

(...)

Huy, miedito me dan esas afirmaciones. Mejor si dices exactamente qué 
pasos son esos que dices haber realizado.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón



systemd ignores / overrides 'shutdown -t' delay?

2015-09-16 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

The Wanderer:

I can certainly see the reasoning, though I'm not sure I wouldn't have 
come down on the other side of that decision.




I actually have done myself, on occasion.


The Wanderer:

Wouldn't it at least make sense to print a message to the effect of 
"warning, ignoring unsupported legacy option '-t'", with possibly a 
brief comment about what to use in its place (if anything)?




Yes, albeit that you won't see me agreeing with that misuse of the word 
"legacy", especially when the far better description as a 
"compatibility" option is right there in systemd already.  But this 
silent behaviour of compatibility options, here and in several other of 
the alternative ways to run the "systemctl" program, is something to 
take up with the systemd people.





Re: Reinicios aleatorios

2015-09-16 Thread Josu Lazkano
Buenas,

Gracias a todos por responder.

He estado monitoreando la temperatura y no sube demasiado:

http://i61.tinypic.com/avrgqe.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/29pswsk.png
http://i58.tinypic.com/20u3k35.png
http://i60.tinypic.com/2lid37k.png

Ayer se me reinicio otra vez a las 20:45, en la grafica no se ve gran cosa.

Ya he creado la carpeta "journal", a ver si estos dias veo algo mas.

Saludos.


-- 
Josu Lazkano



Re: Reinicios aleatorios

2015-09-16 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:08:22 +0200, Josu Lazkano escribió:

> He estado monitoreando la temperatura y no sube demasiado:
> 
> http://i61.tinypic.com/avrgqe.png http://i61.tinypic.com/29pswsk.png
> http://i58.tinypic.com/20u3k35.png http://i60.tinypic.com/2lid37k.png

Esos datos no son fiables, mejor si entras en la BIOS y revisas los 
valores de los sensores de temperatura y las revoluciones de los 
ventiladores para comprobar que estén en orden.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón



[OT] Re: Instalar Proxmox en Asus P8-H81M-D

2015-09-16 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:01:56 -0400, Yoandy Madrazo Gómez escribió:

(si haces cross-posting, es decir, enviar un mismo correo a varias 
listas, al menos avisa)

> Hola a todos, resulta que tengo una pc que venía con W7, la borré para
> instalarle proxmox, 

¿Y qué relación tiene Proxmox con Debian? >:-)

> el proceso de instalación se hace sin problemas pero la pc no levanta
> el proxmox sino que me manda directo para el SETUP de esta. Alguna
> forma?

Pues si tras instalarlo te manda al setup debe ser para que lo configures 
¿no? Tal y como lo explicas y sin dar más detalles me parece el 
procedimiento normal.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón



Re: Re: Soft keyborad et KDE/plasma 5

2015-09-16 Thread Pierre TOUZEAU
J'avais répondu cela en avril 2015 :
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2015/04/msg00192.html

/Tiré de mon expérience Xubuntu sur un prototype de tablette (Le Tablo) :
Il existe différents modèles de claviers virtuels, j'avais essayé
OnBoard et Florence.
J'avais également mis en place le cache automatique du clavier, ou
plutôt le "décache" automatique quand on a besoin du clavier :
http://florence.sourceforge.net/francais/how-to.html#auto-hide
 
Bon, je sais! c'est pas Debian, ne tirez pas c'est inutile :-)

Pierre/

Le 11/09/2015 12:53, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit :
> Le jeudi 10 septembre 2015, 14:22:02 C. Mourad Jaber a écrit :
>> Bonjour,
> ’lut,
>
>> […]
>> Est-ce qu'il a quelque chose de disponible pour une debian
>> testing/unstable ?
> KDE : kvkbd
> Gnome/Gtk : florence, onboard
> X : xvkbd, matchbox-keyboard
>
>   La question de l’apparence est minimale : les claviers 
> apparaissent sans fioritures (sans bordure de fenêtre et Cie, 
> juste un pavé de touches plus ou moins jolies), et les fonctions 
> de base (la principale étant que quand tu cliques/touches, ça 
> envoie un keycode ;o)) sont là, donc n’importe lequel peut faire 
> l’affaire.
>   Ensuite, en ce qui concerne des fonctionnalités plus avancées, 
> comme l’apparition/disparition du clavier selon le besoin, je 
> crois que seul florence peut le faire…
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dns dinâmico

2015-09-16 Thread Caio Ferreira
Lista

Alguém por acaso conhece algum serviço de DNS Dinâmico free? Eu encontrei
alguns serviços, como o DynDNS, mas é pago?

Eu montei um servidor owncloud em casa e estava querendo acessar de forma
remota.

desde já agradeço pela atenção.


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Re: Cuidadión con el paquete de LO de los backports (Jessie)

2015-09-16 Thread Eduardo Rios

El 16/09/15 a las 15:10, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:50:22 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:


El 15/09/15 a las 15:36, Camaleón escribió:


(...)


Al igual que pasa con las aplicaciones de Mozilla (Firefox y
Thunderbird),
me pregunto por qué los usuarios que quieren mantener estos paquetes
actualizados son tan reacios a instalar las versiones upstream, es
decir, las de los propios proyectos. Si hay aplicaciones que dan cero
problemas para instalar/actualizar son precisamente estos tres :-)



No sé, yo no he instalado nunca firefox, thunderbird ni libreoffice
upstream (en Linux, claro). Será fácil, no digo que no, pero parece que
me da mas tranquilidad vía synaptic


¿"Tranquilidad" en qué sentido?

Si te refieres a estar protegido con las actualizaciones de seguridad te
diría que es casi lo contrario ya que en Debian tardan más tiempo en
aplicar los parches, lo cuál es lógico ya que los tienen que hacer para
varias arquitecturas y versiones (estable/testing).

Te iba a decir que la única ventaja que le veo a usar estos paquetes de
Debian es la sencillez pero es que, con estos paquetes precisamente, ni
eso :-)

Saludos,



Me expresé mal. Con tranquilidad me refería a eso mismo, a la sencillez 
de que con synaptic se instalan / actualizan los paquetes y sus 
dependencias. Del otro método, no sé, puede que la instalación 
interfiera con librerías u otros paquetes, ¿no?


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Re: dns dinâmico

2015-09-16 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:48:32 -0300
Caio Ferreira  wrote:

> Lista
> 
> Alguém por acaso conhece algum serviço de DNS Dinâmico free? Eu
> encontrei alguns serviços, como o DynDNS, mas é pago?
> ...


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Re: how to sum a column in openoffice calc

2015-09-16 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/16/2015 04:02 PM, Li Wei wrote:
> I want sum of a column of values
> I enter "SUM(N1:N8)" in cell N9
> but can't get cell N9 to display sum
> 
> Thanks in advance!!!
> 
> PS: I'm in China and can't use google to find answer
> 
> 
Wouldn't that be "=SUM(N1:N8)" instead, with an equal sign?

Regards,
Lars



Re: how to sum a column in openoffice calc

2015-09-16 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 06:02 -0700, Li Wei wrote:
> I want sum of a column of values
> I enter "SUM(N1:N8)" in cell N9
> but can't get cell N9 to display sum
> 
> Thanks in advance!!!
> 
> PS: I'm in China and can't use google to find answer

Hi,

See 
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Calculating_Cell_Totals_in_Tables

The same documentation is available in LibreOffice (press F1) if you
have the libreoffice-help-* package installed.



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Re: Instalar Proxmox en Asus P8-H81M-D

2015-09-16 Thread José Maldonado
El 16/09/2015 08:12, "Yoandy Madrazo Gómez" 
escribió:
>
>
>
> El 15/09/2015 a las 10:31 PM, Angel Claudio Alvarez escribió:
>>
>> El Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:01:56 -0400
>> Yoandy Madrazo Gómez  escribió:
>>
>>> Hola a todos, resulta que tengo una pc que venía con W7, la borré para
>>> instalarle proxmox, el proceso de instalación se hace sin problemas pero
>>> la pc no levanta el proxmox sino que me manda directo para el SETUP de
>>> esta. Alguna forma?
>>
>> Te equivocaste de lista
>> Esta no es una lista de proxmox y, a pedido de Felix,
>> esta no es la lista de camaleon
>> En el sitio de proxmox tenes detallados los distintos tipos de ayuda
>>
> Acaso sabes que cosa es Proxmox, para tu información es un debian con
herramientas propias para la virtualización, cuando en esta lista se hacen
preguntas sobre squid o postfix por solo citar par de ejemplos nadie anda
diciendo que no son listas de esos softwares así que si no vas a ayudar
mejor borras el correo y ya.
>
> Saludos, Yoandy
>>>
>>> Saludos
>>>
>>
>
>

Primero Proxmox es una "distro" basada en Debian con herramientas dirigidas
a virtualización pero eso no la hace un Debian especialmente si
consideramos que el kernel del mismo esta altamente modificado.

Segundo muchas personas en esta lista tienen la mala costumbre de no marcas
las conversaciones como el que son realmente, esto es un OT, y asi deberia
estar marcado tal como lo dice las reglas de la lista.

Tercero atacar a Camaleon se ha vuelto comun por aca y toda porque
simplemente les recuerda en todo momento las reglas de la lista, a mi
parecer quienes actuan asi no son mas que una cuerda inmaduros incapaces de
seguir sencillas reglas de convivencia una muestra de lo que son en persona
y de como actuarán en cualquier ambiente.

Cuarto aun sin ser de Debian se le puede prestar ayuda a cualquiera siempre
y cuando siga las reglas y al menos se digne un poco a investigar antes de
preguntar aca en la lista, esta pregunta es un claro ejemplo de como se han
saltado todo esto.


Re: Cuidadión con el paquete de LO de los backports (Jessie)

2015-09-16 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:50:22 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

> El 15/09/15 a las 15:36, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

>> Al igual que pasa con las aplicaciones de Mozilla (Firefox y
>> Thunderbird),
>> me pregunto por qué los usuarios que quieren mantener estos paquetes
>> actualizados son tan reacios a instalar las versiones upstream, es
>> decir, las de los propios proyectos. Si hay aplicaciones que dan cero
>> problemas para instalar/actualizar son precisamente estos tres :-)
>>
>>
> No sé, yo no he instalado nunca firefox, thunderbird ni libreoffice
> upstream (en Linux, claro). Será fácil, no digo que no, pero parece que
> me da mas tranquilidad vía synaptic

¿"Tranquilidad" en qué sentido? 

Si te refieres a estar protegido con las actualizaciones de seguridad te 
diría que es casi lo contrario ya que en Debian tardan más tiempo en 
aplicar los parches, lo cuál es lógico ya que los tienen que hacer para 
varias arquitecturas y versiones (estable/testing).

Te iba a decir que la única ventaja que le veo a usar estos paquetes de 
Debian es la sencillez pero es que, con estos paquetes precisamente, ni 
eso :-)

Saludos,

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Re: Reinicios aleatorios

2015-09-16 Thread Cristian Mitchell
El 16 de septiembre de 2015, 10:29 a. m., Camaleón
escribió:

> El Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:08:22 +0200, Josu Lazkano escribió:
>
> > He estado monitoreando la temperatura y no sube demasiado:
> >
> > http://i61.tinypic.com/avrgqe.png http://i61.tinypic.com/29pswsk.png
> > http://i58.tinypic.com/20u3k35.png http://i60.tinypic.com/2lid37k.png
>
> Esos datos no son fiables, mejor si entras en la BIOS y revisas los
> valores de los sensores de temperatura y las revoluciones de los
> ventiladores para comprobar que estén en orden.
>
> Saludos,
>
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>
>
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Re: Migração Servidores para Debian.

2015-09-16 Thread P. J.
Cara eu estou evitando usar o systemd devido alguns bugs, eu estou
usando o sysv-init-core, ao instalá-lo ele remove algumas coisas do
systemd, não sei detalhar no momento... mas vc pode ter os dois
sistemas de inicialização, já que alguns programas no jessie dependem
do systemd, (kvm por exemplo) e gerenciar isso com o pacote
init-select, setando o init como padrão, qnd se tem mudanças radicais
de tecnologias é tolerável conviver com ambiente híbridos, vaje no
caso da BIOS tradicional com o UEFI.

Com relação ao kernel no jessie ele está com:

# uname -r
3.16.0-4-amd64

Sinceramente, não vejo necessidade, a não ser que seja algo bem
especifico, de um kernel compilado manualmente... enfim... só uma
opinião

Com relação ao gerenciamento de configurações, que é o segundo passo
no workflow de infraestrutura ágil, recomendo brincar com as 3 maiores
ferramentas, como o SALTSTACK, CHEF e PUPPET, eu particularmente,
gosto do SALTSTACK, por já vir com o orquestrador integrado, deixando
a desejar, pelo menos na epóca em que estava brincando, com a parte do
dashboard. O PUPPET, tb é uma solução madura e bastante ativa e com
grandes players por detrás... só que tem dependência de java e requer
uma infra mais robusta, para cenários grandes... Enfim brinque com as
3 e tire suas conclusões.

Abs

Em 15 de setembro de 2015 20:09, Leandro César
 escreveu:
> Boa noite Senhores,
>
> Bem, vou tentar relatar de forma breve meu cenário e da minha intenção de
> mudar para o Debian.
>
> - Atualmente administro um parque de Servidores Virtualizados com Slackware
> 14.1 e já temos uma "certa maturidade" com essa distribuição. Por que "certa
> maturidade"? Porque já temos varios procedimentos, scripts automatizando o
> necessário, mas com limitações.. (o tempo para fazer todo esse processo é
> que esta pegando). Dessa forma, com o crescimento dos Servidores que temos
> que administrar, esta cada dia mais difícil a administração com as
> ferramentas atuais para gerencia de pacotes principalmente.
>
> Como a minha intenção é começar a utilizar alguma ferramenta para
> automatizar a Infraestrutura (do tipo Puppet), estou fazendo alguns
> laboratórios e caminhando para o Debian.
>
> Com base nesse cenário, gostaria de algumas sugestões:
>
> * Utilizar o Debian 8.x (2)  com systemd? Lendo um pouco sobre o assunto me
> deparei com um curva de aprendizado grande para administrações.
>
> * Kernel: Sempre tivemos por hábito utilizar o Kernel bult-in no Slackware e
> compilar sempre a ultima versão Stable.
>
>
> Entendo que esses pontos podem mudar dependendo do cenário/ambiente, mas
> gostaria de trocar experiências com todos!
>
> Desde já, agradeço!
>
>
> --
> --
> Att,
> Leandro César
>
>



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Re: a command with a long list of options

2015-09-16 Thread rlharris
On Wed, September 16, 2015 1:59 am, Dr. Volker Thieme wrote:
> The file is ~/.enscriptrc without a dot.. :-)

Forgive me; I typed ".enscriptrc" correctly for the file, but I mis-typed
".enscript.rc" for the email.  But I do appreciate your attention to
detail.

RLH




Re: Cuidadión con el paquete de LO de los backports (Jessie)

2015-09-16 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:57:55 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

> El 16/09/15 a las 15:10, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

>>> No sé, yo no he instalado nunca firefox, thunderbird ni libreoffice
>>> upstream (en Linux, claro). Será fácil, no digo que no, pero parece
>>> que me da mas tranquilidad vía synaptic
>>
>> ¿"Tranquilidad" en qué sentido?
>>
>> Si te refieres a estar protegido con las actualizaciones de seguridad
>> te diría que es casi lo contrario ya que en Debian tardan más tiempo en
>> aplicar los parches, lo cuál es lógico ya que los tienen que hacer para
>> varias arquitecturas y versiones (estable/testing).
>>
>> Te iba a decir que la única ventaja que le veo a usar estos paquetes de
>> Debian es la sencillez pero es que, con estos paquetes precisamente, ni
>> eso :-)
>>
> Me expresé mal. Con tranquilidad me refería a eso mismo, a la sencillez
> de que con synaptic se instalan / actualizan los paquetes y sus
> dependencias. Del otro método, no sé, puede que la instalación
> interfiera con librerías u otros paquetes, ¿no?

Están muy bien empaquetados, no interfieren. Por otra parte, habilitar el 
repo de backports tampoco resulta siempre un camino de rosas ;-)

Saludos,

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Re: a command with a long list of options

2015-09-16 Thread rlharris
On Wed, September 16, 2015 1:24 am, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
...
> #!/bin/bash
...
> enscript --verbose --media=letter -2 --landscape --borders \
> --header='$n|A.D. $D{%Y.%m.%d}|$* gmt | Page $% of $=' \
> "$1"
...
> echo $PATH

That works!

I thank you for taking the trouble to write up a detailed procedure; that
was a great help for my sleepy head at 2 am.  The only additional thing
for which I had to google was the procedure for modifying PATH.

I write and use bash scripts almost daily, but this is the first time I
have needed to include the rest of the command line (the file name); I was
not sure that that could be done in bash.

RLH




Re: Consulta sobre virtualizacion

2015-09-16 Thread Cristian Mitchell
El 16 de septiembre de 2015, 11:56 a. m., ariel bujeiro<
arielbuje...@gmail.com> escribió:

> Buen dia, sepan disculpar si no es el grupo correcto
>
> tengo una duda,
> podria de alguna forma, con linux, virtualizar varias maquinas con windows
> 2003 server  para simular un ambiente de pruebas/estudio?
>
> Gracias de antemano
>
>
si

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Consulta sobre virtualizacion

2015-09-16 Thread ariel bujeiro
Buen dia, sepan disculpar si no es el grupo correcto

tengo una duda,
podria de alguna forma, con linux, virtualizar varias maquinas con windows
2003 server  para simular un ambiente de pruebas/estudio?

Gracias de antemano


Messages au format html

2015-09-16 Thread steve
 Me semble que la proportion de ce genre de messages est en 
 augmentation depuis quelques temps. Je ne me l'explique pas, mais ce 
 serait sympa de faire un effort et de ne poster qu'en texte pur.
   
 Pour rappel, voici ce qu'on lit sur cette page [1]


 Code de conduite

   Quand vous utilisez les listes de diffusion Debian, merci de suivre 
   les règles suivantes : 


   [snip quelques règles...]

   ° n'envoyez jamais vos messages au format HTML ; utilisez à la place 
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[Solved]Re: xorg-server not exists in my stretch

2015-09-16 Thread mudongliang


On 09/16/2015 08:50 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 9/16/15, mudongliang  wrote:
>> On 09/16/2015 07:20 PM, Martin Read wrote:
>>> The package you are looking for is "xserver-xorg", not "xorg-server".
>>>
>> If this is not the reason, I don't know why vmware 12 in my stretch
>> cannot boot!
>> How can I find the log of upgrading softwares?
>> I want to find any difference.
>> Thank you!
>
> Are you maybe looking for something like /var/log/apt/history.log? If
Yes, this log is what I want. I have seen the software list, only
x11-xserver-utils can be the reason.
But I don't know how to fix.
I have decided to reinstall my system to debian jessie.
I can't hold the testing version, but I will leave the testing in my vmware.
Thank you very much.
 - mudongliang
> you have a lot of upgrade history behind you, there MIGHT also be
> additional backed up archive files named similar to history.log.1.gz,
> history.log.2.gz, etc, in that same /var/log/apt directory. If that
> does NOT exist on your system for any reason, maybe someone else knows
> of an alternative route to the same information.
>
> Hope you find what you're looking for there. Mine does seem to be
> referencing a before and after [version number].
>
> Cindy :)
>




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Re: systemd ignores / overrides 'shutdown -t' delay?

2015-09-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Jonathan de Boyne Pollard (j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com):
> Ralph Katz:
> 
> >There is no "-t" option.
> >
> 
> In fact there is.  It's undocumented; and is one of four
> undocumented compatibility options, alongside -a, -f, and -F, that
> are simply parsed and then ignored.  There is a fifth undocumented
> option with an effect, -K.

May I ask what its effect is?

Cheers,
David.



Re: Ethernet not working after waking from sleep

2015-09-16 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
Thanks. But the directories the link indicated did not exist on my system.
Moreover, the solution was intended for Ubuntu 14.10(Saucy).
I did expect something Debian specific.
However, thanks for your help!

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Riley Baird <
bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch> wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 10:06:40 +0530
> Himanshu Shekhar  wrote:
>
> > My network adapter is by Realtek and I have installed the appropriate
> > firmware from synaptic. The ethernet network works fine, but shows cable
> > unplugged after waking from sleep.
> > Also, I have Broadcom bluetooth device BCRM43142 and have downloaded
> > firmware (some bcrm-***-dkms) but bluetooth doesn't work properly (tried
> > blueman too). Also, on startup, after fsck, bluetooth firmware fails to
> > load.
>
> I haven't had this porblem personally, but the instructions here might
> be of help:
>
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/362933/network-disabled-on-some-wake-ups-on-saucy-laptop
>



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Re: Consulta sobre virtualizacion

2015-09-16 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 16 Sep 2015 11:56:02 -0300, ariel bujeiro escribió:

> Buen dia, sepan disculpar si no es el grupo correcto

Se disculpa el grupo pero no el formato, hay que usar texto plano :-P

> tengo una duda,
> podria de alguna forma, con linux, virtualizar varias maquinas con
> windows 2003 server  para simular un ambiente de pruebas/estudio?

Sí, claro. 

Por ejemplo, puedes instalar VirtualBox en Debian (o cualquier otra 
distribución) y generar máquinas virtuales con Windows 2003 Server 
siempre que tengas la correspondiente licencia de uso.

Saludos,

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Re: Consulta sobre virtualizacion

2015-09-16 Thread Cristian Mitchell
El 16 de septiembre de 2015, 12:13 p. m., Camaleón
escribió:

> El Wed, 16 Sep 2015 11:56:02 -0300, ariel bujeiro escribió:
>
> > Buen dia, sepan disculpar si no es el grupo correcto
>
> Se disculpa el grupo pero no el formato, hay que usar texto plano :-P
>
> > tengo una duda,
> > podria de alguna forma, con linux, virtualizar varias maquinas con
> > windows 2003 server  para simular un ambiente de pruebas/estudio?
>
> Sí, claro.
>
> Por ejemplo, puedes instalar VirtualBox en Debian (o cualquier otra
> distribución) y generar máquinas virtuales con Windows 2003 Server
> siempre que tengas la correspondiente licencia de uso.
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>

Si queres usar algo serio usa kvm
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Re: how to sum a column in openoffice calc

2015-09-16 Thread Curt
On 2015-09-16, Lars Noodén  wrote:
>> 
> Wouldn't that be "=SUM(N1:N8)" instead, with an equal sign?
>

That works for me.

I just hit that Greek letter (epsilon?).



Re: how to sum a column in openoffice calc

2015-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 16:26:58 Curt wrote:
> On 2015-09-16, Lars Noodén  wrote:
> > Wouldn't that be "=SUM(N1:N8)" instead, with an equal sign?
>
> That works for me.
>
> I just hit that Greek letter (epsilon?).

I don't know the actual thing, but it is much more likely to be upper case 
sigma, which is the mathematical symbol for "sum".

Lisi



[Disarmed] Re: Consulta sobre virtualizacion

2015-09-16 Thread Alberto Cabrejas Pérez



El 16/09/15 a las 10:56, ariel bujeiro escibió:

Buen dia, sepan disculpar si no es el grupo correcto

tengo una duda,
podria de alguna forma, con linux, virtualizar varias maquinas con 
windows 2003 server  para simular un ambiente de pruebas/estudio?


Gracias de antemano

Si, puedes crear incluso una subred con ellas, con Virtualbox, Proxmox, 
entre otros

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Removal of a Desktop Environment

2015-09-16 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
I installed LXDE on my Jessie laptop for exploring it (alongside GNOME).
Now, I removed LXDE from Tasksel and installed Mate desktop. I think only
some packages are removed. Also, the gdm (or whatever that's called where
we login and select out desktop environment) stills lists LXDE.
I have tried
 tasksel remove LXDE
and googled a lot.
Still expecting solution.

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Re: Removal of a Desktop Environment

2015-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 16:18:10 Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> Now, I removed LXDE from Tasksel and installed Mate desktop.

More detail needed.  What do you mean by you "removed LXDE from Tasksel"?

To remove LXDE you needed to: 
# aptitude purge LXDE
or similar with other package manager.  

Lisi



Re: how to sum a column in openoffice calc

2015-09-16 Thread Curt
On 2015-09-16, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 September 2015 16:26:58 Curt wrote:
>> On 2015-09-16, Lars Noodén  wrote:
>> > Wouldn't that be "=SUM(N1:N8)" instead, with an equal sign?
>>
>> That works for me.
>>
>> I just hit that Greek letter (epsilon?).
>
> I don't know the actual thing, but it is much more likely to be upper case 
> sigma, which is the mathematical symbol for "sum".

You are right, it's an uppercase sigma. 
 
> Lisi
>
>


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Re: Removal of a Desktop Environment

2015-09-16 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
I mean is used the command "tasksel remove ". Why ? I got that
solution in a Google search.
I tried "aptitude purge LXDE", it showed 0 to install and 0 to remove etc.
I just want to remove all the applications of LXDE and also remove the
option to run into LXDE from "gdm"
That's all!

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> On Wednesday 16 September 2015 16:18:10 Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> > Now, I removed LXDE from Tasksel and installed Mate desktop.
>
> More detail needed.  What do you mean by you "removed LXDE from Tasksel"?
>
> To remove LXDE you needed to:
> # aptitude purge LXDE
> or similar with other package manager.
>
> Lisi
>
>


-- 
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IIIT-Allahabad
IRM2015006


Re: Consulta sobre virtualizacion

2015-09-16 Thread Adrià
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:20:11PM -0300, Cristian Mitchell wrote:
> 
>Si queres usar algo serio usa kvm

¿Qué tiene de cómico VirtualBox, además de las splash screens del menú
"About VirtualBox"?

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You're out of memory


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Re: a command with a long list of options

2015-09-16 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

> I write and use bash scripts almost daily,

I did not know that you were tired and thus did not come
to the idea of a script yourself. So you got the mini starter
for scripters. My programs are similarly unusable as enscript
if one does not develop their serious jobs in scripts.


> The only additional thing
> for which I had to google was the procedure for modifying PATH.

What did you add there ?

I would have rather moved the script to one of the directories
which were already listed in PATH. Or staid with the inconvenience
to always prepend "~/" to its name.


> needed to include the rest of the command line (the file name); I was
> not sure that that could be done in bash.

We have a wide variety of variable parameters in bash.
Execute man bash, search for "Positional Parameters" and
also read the next chapter "Special Parameters".

If you just want to forward all arguments unchanged to
enscript, then replace "$1" by "$@" (with quotation marks).
The form "$@" makes least trouble with blanks or special
characters in the arguments.

Play with this test script ~/my_test:

  #!/bin/bash

  for i in "$@"
  do
echo ">>> $i <<<"
  done

Give it something to gnaw on

  ~/my_test a 'b B' 'New
  line'

should put out

  >>> a <<<
  >>> b B <<<
  >>> New
  line <<<


You may also send named parameters to a script:

  file=/my/file/name ~/my_script ...maybe.some.arguments...

to be used inside the script as variable by prefix "$"
and typically inside "-quotes to keep blanks from splitting
words:

  #!/bin/bash

  echo "file : $file"

This should put out with above run

  file : /my/file/name


Then there are the exported variables

  export file=/my/file/name

  ... maybe other shell commands ...

  ~/my_script ...

The script will then know the variable content of "$file".


Be aware that Debian by default uses /bin/dash for executing
shell scripts, if they start by
  #!/bin/sh 
dash offers less extras than bash. It is desirable to stay
away from "bashisms" as long as one does not really need them.

So maybe it is wise to change
  #!/bin/bash
to
  #!/bin/sh
in order to notice when bashisms sneak into your scripting.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas
 



Re: dns dinâmico

2015-09-16 Thread Tulio Simplicio
Tem o no ip,  ja tentou?

Em qua, 16 de set de 2015 11:02 AM, Cláudio E. Elicker 
escreveu:

> On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:48:32 -0300
> Caio Ferreira  wrote:
>
> > Lista
> >
> > Alguém por acaso conhece algum serviço de DNS Dinâmico free? Eu
> > encontrei alguns serviços, como o DynDNS, mas é pago?
> > ...
>
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/04/msg00403.html
>
>
>
> --
> EMACS is my operating system; Linux is my device driver.
>
>


Re: Consulta sobre virtualizacion

2015-09-16 Thread Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda
Mira este:

http://blog.desdelinux.net/debian-7-wheezy-y-qemu-kvm/


*Saludes;*

rasa.


2015-09-16 10:59 GMT-05:00 Adrià :
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:20:11PM -0300, Cristian Mitchell wrote:
>>
>>Si queres usar algo serio usa kvm
>
> ¿Qué tiene de cómico VirtualBox, además de las splash screens del menú
> "About VirtualBox"?
>
> --
> Adrià García-Alzórriz
> 0x09494C14
> BOFH excuse #74:
>
> You're out of memory



Re: Messages au format html

2015-09-16 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le mercredi 16 septembre 2015, steve a écrit...


>  Me semble que la proportion de ce genre de messages est en
>  augmentation depuis quelques temps. Je ne me l'explique pas, mais ce
>  serait sympa de faire un effort et de ne poster qu'en texte pur.

En es tu bien sûr ? Ce n'est pas mon impression.

-- 
jm



Re: Jessie : erreurs au démarrage. EFI ?

2015-09-16 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Le 15 septembre 2015, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :

> Alain Rpnpif a écrit :
> > 
> > Je n'ai pas de partition réservée à l'EFI.
> 
> La core image de GRUB est forcément amorcée depuis quelque part.
> La partition est identifiable à partir de l'entrée d'amorçage EFI de
> Debian, affichée avec la commande (en root) :
> 
> efibootmgr -v
> 
> Ensuite comparer l'UUID figurant dans l'entrée "debian" avec les valeurs
> de PARTUUID affichés par la commande (en root) :
> 
> blkid
> 
> > La partition UEFI est-elle indispensable ?
> 
> Si on parle de l'identifiant de type de "partition système EFI", je
> soupçonne que non, sinon le firmware UEFI ne s'embêterait pas à stocker
> la position, taille et UUID de la partition contenant le chargeur dans
> l'entrée d'amorçage EFI. Mais il faut que ce soit un système de fichiers
> que le firmware UEFI comprenne, donc FAT.
> 
> De même il n'est pas indispensable que cette partition soit montée en
> permanence sur /boot/efi. Ça l'est seulement pour y installer un
> chargeur d'amorçage EFI. De même qu'il n'est pas nécessaire que /boot
> soit montée en permanence.
> 
> 
> > Erreur de ma part : les messages arrivent après la sélection du noyau
> > de démarrage mais avant son chargement. Donc GRUB pourrait être
> > concerné (aussi ?).
> 
> 
> Comment ça, "aussi" ? Evidemment que GRUB et lui seul est concerné, dans
> tous les cas.

Popopo ! je m'aperçois que j'ai beaucoup tardé à répondre. Trop occupé.
Désolé.

À Alexandre.Oui 
En essayant de te répondre, j'ai enfin trouvé la partition EFI ! Oui
elle existe. Elle se trouvait cachée parmi les 7 partitions de mon
disque sdb alors que je ne cherchais bêtement que sur sda.

sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10

Partition table scan:
  MBR: MBR only
  BSD: not present
  APM: not present
  GPT: not present


***
Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format
in memory. 
***


Warning! Secondary partition table overlaps the last partition by
33 blocks!
You will need to delete this partition or resize it in another utility.
Disk /dev/sda: 390721968 sectors, 186.3 GiB
Logical sector size: 512 bytes
Disk identifier (GUID): 6069C482-58B9-4E3E-9D5B-07AEA39467DE
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 390721934
Partitions will be aligned on 2048-sector boundaries
Total free space is 6110 sectors (3.0 MiB)

Number  Start (sector)End (sector)  Size   Code  Name
   1204839733247   18.9 GiB8300  Linux
filesystem 23973734442969087   1.5 GiB 8200  Linux
swap 342969088   147826687   50.0 GiB8300  Linux
filesystem 4   147826688   390721967   115.8 GiB   8300  Linux
   filesystem

Je n'utilise jamais gdisk car je ne connaissais pas. il me dit que mon
disque sda est anormalement partitionné (?).

sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10

Partition table scan:
  MBR: protective
  BSD: not present
  APM: not present
  GPT: present

Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.
Disk /dev/sdb: 976773168 sectors, 465.8 GiB
Logical sector size: 512 bytes
Disk identifier (GUID): 259DC8EC-A5B7-5B44-9C79-086F56E69E6A
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 976773134
Partitions will be aligned on 2048-sector boundaries
Total free space is 2029 sectors (1014.5 KiB)

Number  Start (sector)End (sector)  Size   Code  Name
   1   188827648   192923647   2.0 GiB 8200  
   2   192923648   385845247   92.0 GiB0700  
   3   385845248   578766847   92.0 GiB0700  
   4   578766848   771688447   92.0 GiB0700  
   5   771688448   976773119   97.8 GiB0700  
   62048   77823   37.0 MiBEF00  
   7   77824   188827647   90.0 GiB0700  System

sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
...
Type d'étiquette de disque : gpt
...
Device Start   End   Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sdb1  188827648 192923647   40960002G Linux swap
/dev/sdb2  192923648 385845247 192921600   92G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sdb3  385845248 578766847 192921600   92G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sdb4  578766848 771688447 192921600   92G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sdb5  771688448 976773119 205084672 97,8G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sdb6   2048 77823 75776   37M EFI System
/dev/sdb7  77824 188827647 188749824   90G Microsoft basic data

Par contre, je crois me souvenir avoir partitionné avec gparted  et je
n'ai jamais déclaré ce type "Microsoft basic data" !? Le disque est en
GPT volontairement. Toutes les partitions de sdb2 à sdb5 et sdb7 sont en
ext4. Ce serait fdisk qui est perdu avec GPT ?

sdb6 ne contient que 
ls -a EFI/*
.  ..  grubx64.efi

sudo efibootmgr -v
BootCurrent: 
Timeout: 1 seconds
BootOrder: ,0001,0005,0004
Boot* debian

Re: Removal of a Desktop Environment

2015-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 16:39:29 Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> I mean is used the command "tasksel remove ". Why ? I got that
> solution in a Google search.
> I tried "aptitude purge LXDE", it showed 0 to install and 0 to remove etc.
> I just want to remove all the applications of LXDE and also remove the
> option to run into LXDE from "gdm"
> That's all!

Apart from in gdm, and Gnome id a law unto itself, whar else is still tehre?

Have you tried # dpkg-reconfigure gdm?

I had trouble with  in Jessie, but never in Wheezy, and 
there has been time for any bug to be ironed out.  It just might help.  

Can you not just ignore it?

Please don't reply to me privately.  I read the list.

Lisi

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > On Wednesday 16 September 2015 16:18:10 Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> > > Now, I removed LXDE from Tasksel and installed Mate desktop.
> >
> > More detail needed.  What do you mean by you "removed LXDE from Tasksel"?
> >
> > To remove LXDE you needed to:
> > # aptitude purge LXDE
> > or similar with other package manager.
> >
> > Lisi



Re: Consulta sobre virtualizacion

2015-09-16 Thread OddieX
Xen toda la vida
El sept. 16, 2015 1:04 PM, "Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda" <
rasa996...@gmail.com> escribió:

> Mira este:
>
> http://blog.desdelinux.net/debian-7-wheezy-y-qemu-kvm/
>
>
> *Saludes;*
>
> rasa.
>
>
> 2015-09-16 10:59 GMT-05:00 Adrià :
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:20:11PM -0300, Cristian Mitchell wrote:
> >>
> >>Si queres usar algo serio usa kvm
> >
> > ¿Qué tiene de cómico VirtualBox, además de las splash screens del menú
> > "About VirtualBox"?
> >
> > --
> > Adrià García-Alzórriz
> > 0x09494C14
> > BOFH excuse #74:
> >
> > You're out of memory
>
>


Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly

2015-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 17:53:41 Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to
> me.  Don't know what caused it.  I didn't do anything.  Gremlins, maybe.

:-))  The red highlighting of spelling mistakes suddenly started to work in my 
email client.  I did nothing new.  Thank you gremlins. ;-)

Lisi



Re: Consulta sobre virtualizacion

2015-09-16 Thread Adrià
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:03:43AM -0500, Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda wrote:
> Mira este:
> 
> http://blog.desdelinux.net/debian-7-wheezy-y-qemu-kvm/

Vale. ¿Y?

Es que esto parece un concurso de recitar hipervisores, y una de las
cosas buenas del software libre es precisamente la libertad de elegir.

He usado KVM, VirtualBox y en menor medida Xen (entre otros) y cada
uno tiene sus características, como por ejemplo que debes añadir tu
usuario al grupo de libvirt para no ejecutar las VM como root, y
que según qué versiones de windows tienen mejor rendimiento en VB.
Aunque si hablásemos de APIs o integración con cgroups, que no es el
caso,  otro gallo cantaría.

Y retomando el hilo, en este caso (entorno de pruebas y laboratorio) le
recomendaría VirtualBox tranquilamente; creo que es lo más práctico y
cómodo para lo que nos interesa.

Y por cierto: 

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail and USENET?

-- 
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[HS] [Complètement HS] Comment arrivent-ils à faire ça ?

2015-09-16 Thread Philippe Gras
:~ gras$ curl http://tsce.net


301 Moved Permanently

Moved Permanently
The document has moved http://www.tsce.net/;>here.

Apache Server at tsce.net Port 80



:~ gras$ curl "http://www.tsce.net/;
curl: (6) Could not resolve host: www.tsce.net; nodename nor servname provided, 
or not known


:~ gras$ host -a tsce.net
Trying "tsce.net"
;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode.
Trying "tsce.net"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47695
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 12, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tsce.net.  IN  ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
tsce.net.   18000   IN  SOA ns0.fr.claradns.net. 
hostmaster.fr.clara.net. 2015080500 172800 3600 1728000 172800
tsce.net.   300 IN  TXT "spf2.0/pra a:euler.tsce.net 
a:hertz.tsce.net a:cousteau.tsce.net a:fresnel.tsce.net a:kelvin.tsce.net -all"
tsce.net.   300 IN  TXT 
"google-site-verification=ODMQNCOmZzw8rKsA3gZ-iH4Sw3XRp2W9SqC2Iy1yUEI"
tsce.net.   300 IN  TXT "v=spf1 a a:euler.tsce.net 
a:hertz.tsce.net a:cousteau.tsce.net a:fresnel.tsce.net a:kelvin.tsce.net  -all"
tsce.net.   300 IN  MX  20 fermat.tsce.net.
tsce.net.   300 IN  MX  10 fermi.tsce.net.
tsce.net.   300 IN  MX  30 84650hd45026.ikexpress.com.
tsce.net.   300 IN  MX  40 mx-vh.fr.clara.net.
tsce.net.   233 IN  A   195.8.66.220
tsce.net.   18000   IN  NS  ns1.fr.claradns.net.
tsce.net.   18000   IN  NS  ns0.fr.claradns.net.
tsce.net.   18000   IN  NS  ns2.fr.claradns.net.

Received 591 bytes from 80.10.246.136#53 in 20 ms

Veuillez m'excuser, je pose la question ici parce que je ne vois pas à qui 
d'autre la poser (Yahoo Q/R ? LOL)


Re: Messages au format html

2015-09-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Philippe Gras a écrit :
> 
> Quelle est la conséquence d'un envoi au format HTML par rapport aux envois
> en texte brut ?

C'est beaucoup plus lourd et beaucoup plus moche. Et bien sûr, ça
affiche du charabia plein de balises dans les lecteurs de mail qui ne
savent pas lire le HTML.



Bug? - Debian does not assign IP address after reboot?

2015-09-16 Thread linuxthefish
Hi,

After I reboot my Debian machine it does not assign an IP to eth0. It
brings the interface up after a reboot, but does not set the IP on it!
Running a cronjob every min to set the IP address is the only way to
fix this, but why does it happen? Is this some sort of bug?

My interfaces file is as follows:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth0
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet static
  address 172.16.0.30
  netmask 255.255.0.0

allow-hotplug wlan1
iface wlan1 inet static
wpa-ap-scan 1
wpa-scan-ssid 1
  wpa-ssid connect
  wpa-psk linuxthefish
address 192.168.43.200
netmask 255.255.255.0

Please can someone tell me why this happens? :(

Thanks!



Re: Squid como descobrir porque o acesso foi negado

2015-09-16 Thread Rodrigo Germano de Paula
Habilite o debug do squid para verificar exatamente em qual regra ele está
negando.

*Rodrigo Germano de Paula*
Técnico em Tecnologia da Informação
IFB Campus Planaltina
Contato: (61) 21962601

Em 16 de setembro de 2015 14:54, hamacker  escreveu:

> Olá pessoal,
>
> Estou com um problema chato de resolver, um determinado usuario está
> tentando acessar:
>
> http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/09/1676280-dilma-sanciona-desoneracao-da-folha-e-veta-aliquota-para-setor-de-vestuario.shtml
>
> O log realmente registra a negação:
> 1442425881.469 18 192.168.1.52 TCP_DENIED/403 5419 GET
> http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/09/1676280-dilma-sanciona-desoneracao-da-folha-e-veta-aliquota-para-setor-de-vestuario.shtml
> fulano HIER_NONE/- text/html
>
> O detalhe é que não nega a página princial (folha.com.br), só esta
> subpágina.
> Eu realmente tenho uma lista de sites negados e extensoes negadas, mas
> olhando manualmente, o link acima não é aplicável .
>
> Pesquisando o Google, fiz a seguinte alteração:
> deny_info ERR_URL_PROIBIDAS vidy_url_proibidos
> http_access deny url_proibidos !usuarios_administradores
> !usuarios_sembloqueio  !horario_livre
>
> #
> # inibe o download de certas extensoes  #
> #
> deny_info ERR_ARQUIVO_PROIBIDO vidy_extensoes_proibidas
> http_access deny extensoes_proibidas !usuarios_administradores
> !usuarios_sembloqueio !sites_download
>
> E entao criei arquivos HTMLs ERR_URL_PROIBIDAS  e ERR_ARQUIVO_PROIBIDO
> para personalizar o erro, porém continua dando mensagem de acesso negado "O
> seguinte erro foi encontrado ao tentar recuperar a URL:()" e não é
> nenhuma das duas páginas de erro que personalizei para a ACL.
>
> Se eu coloco o usuário na ACL usuarios_administradores, o  qual não tem
> bloqueio, então ele passa a ver normalmente a página.
>
> Parece então que fiz o DENY_INFO errado.
>
> Alguém aí tem uma dica melhor para debugar o que acontece?
>


Re: [HS] [Complètement HS] Comment arrivent-ils à faire ça ?

2015-09-16 Thread Christophe

Hello,

Le 16/09/2015 20:36, Philippe Gras a écrit :


Veuillez m'excuser, je pose la question ici parce que je ne vois pas à qui 
d'autre la poser (Yahoo Q/R ? LOL)



Quelle est la question au juste ?

Si c'est pour ça :

curl: (6) Could not resolve host: www.tsce.net; nodename nor servname 
provided, or not known


Tout simplement par ce qu'il manque un enregistrement A,  ou CNAME 
sur www .




Re: Bug? - Debian does not assign IP address after reboot?

2015-09-16 Thread Sven Hartge
linuxthefish  wrote:

> After I reboot my Debian machine it does not assign an IP to eth0. It
> brings the interface up after a reboot, but does not set the IP on it!
> Running a cronjob every min to set the IP address is the only way to
> fix this, but why does it happen? Is this some sort of bug?

> My interfaces file is as follows:

> auto eth0
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
>   address 172.16.0.30
>   netmask 255.255.0.0

You cannot have both "auto eth0" _and_ "allow-hotplug eth0". Choose one.

S°

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.



Squid como descobrir porque o acesso foi negado

2015-09-16 Thread hamacker
Olá pessoal,

Estou com um problema chato de resolver, um determinado usuario está
tentando acessar:
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/09/1676280-dilma-sanciona-desoneracao-da-folha-e-veta-aliquota-para-setor-de-vestuario.shtml

O log realmente registra a negação:
1442425881.469 18 192.168.1.52 TCP_DENIED/403 5419 GET
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/09/1676280-dilma-sanciona-desoneracao-da-folha-e-veta-aliquota-para-setor-de-vestuario.shtml
fulano HIER_NONE/- text/html

O detalhe é que não nega a página princial (folha.com.br), só esta
subpágina.
Eu realmente tenho uma lista de sites negados e extensoes negadas, mas
olhando manualmente, o link acima não é aplicável .

Pesquisando o Google, fiz a seguinte alteração:
deny_info ERR_URL_PROIBIDAS vidy_url_proibidos
http_access deny url_proibidos !usuarios_administradores
!usuarios_sembloqueio  !horario_livre

#
# inibe o download de certas extensoes  #
#
deny_info ERR_ARQUIVO_PROIBIDO vidy_extensoes_proibidas
http_access deny extensoes_proibidas !usuarios_administradores
!usuarios_sembloqueio !sites_download

E entao criei arquivos HTMLs ERR_URL_PROIBIDAS  e ERR_ARQUIVO_PROIBIDO para
personalizar o erro, porém continua dando mensagem de acesso negado "O
seguinte erro foi encontrado ao tentar recuperar a URL:()" e não é
nenhuma das duas páginas de erro que personalizei para a ACL.

Se eu coloco o usuário na ACL usuarios_administradores, o  qual não tem
bloqueio, então ele passa a ver normalmente a página.

Parece então que fiz o DENY_INFO errado.

Alguém aí tem uma dica melhor para debugar o que acontece?


Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly

2015-09-16 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 09/16/2015 01:53 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> About two years ago, my original posts to the list stopped being
> mirrored back to me. This happened spontaneously:  one day I'd see my
> post; the next day -- literally -- I didn't.  (Replies to others' posts
> showed up as they should.)  Never could figure out why.

This is (or was) a "feature" of gmail - since the email is in the Sent
folder, it does not reappear in the Inbox when the mailing list copy is
received.

> Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to
> me.  Don't know what caused it.  I didn't do anything.  Gremlins, maybe.

I have no idea why, maybe gmail's behavior changed.


-- 
'Martyrdom' is the only way a person can become famous without ability.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
edua...@kalinowski.com.br



Enscript and unicode, was Re: is a2ps broken?

2015-09-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net):
> > On Thu, September 3, 2015 10:28 am, David Wright wrote:
> >
> > Personally, a2ps has been broken for years because it doesn't handle
> > unicode.
> 
> I found in the Debian archive the package "enscript", which appears to
> provide (at least for my needs) the functionality of "a2ps"; and enscript
> handles unicode.

Perhaps you mean something else by "handles unicode".

It doesn't crash, and the frames you have specified don't get bumped
into AFAICT, but a test line of unicode with:

Pound £ Euro € Divide ÷

gives me:

Pound £ Euro â\202¬ Divide ÷

There'a a good testpage to try at
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.txt

Cheers,
David.



Re: Editor pagines wiki

2015-09-16 Thread Narcis Garcia
Suposo que el tema de «alternatives» el referies a les eines; essent
així em sembla que hi ha moltes més alternatives en programari privatiu,
però amb el problema de ser més efímeres.

Desenes de milers de persones intenten fer eines de programari privatiu
per «forrar-se amb les còpies», i acaben fracassant. Com que els
programes privatius exitosos (i duradors) són pocs, es recolzen en
l'estratègia de fer molta publicitat i acords amb distribuïdors per
establir el seu producte com a única opció pel comprador d'aparells.

Amb això, l'ambient mediàtic és d'aparent monopoli o d'estranyes eines
aparentment «standard».

En el món del programari lliure ens trobem aprofitant eines fantàstiques
que algú va desenvolupar fa 20 anys, i on al projecte potser ja no hi
queda ningú de l'equip original, o potser ni tan sols ningú. La
diversitat aflora i perdura.


El 16/09/15 a les 21:09, Robert Marsellés ha escrit:
> Hola a tots,
> 
> No tinc gaire interès en aquest tema ja que sempre penso en no en sé
> prou com per afegir rés a cap lloc. Únicament, de tant en tant, reviso
> els correus de les llistes. El procés és breu i senzill:
> 
> 1) Login
> 2) Marcar els missatges que toqui
> 3) Canviar <> --> < 4) Afegir el meu nom entre els símbols ||  ||
> 5) Save Changes
> 
> Tot i això, em perdo. Tants símbols, tots juntets, amb la finestreta
> petiteta, ... Algú me'n pot recomanar algun, senzillet si us plau.
> Habitualment m'ho busco jo jo però avui em sento sense forces per triar
> entre tota la munió que en deu haver.
> 
> Relacionat però fora de la qüestió, per mi el major problema que hi
> trobo al software lliure (en general) es que hi ha tantes alternatives
> per fer el mateix que triar-ne un és un maldecap.
> 
> Salut, seny i peles,
> 
> robert
> 



Re: Removal of a Desktop Environment

2015-09-16 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
I tried "#dpkg-reconfigure gdm3". It did it's task but didn't serve the
purpose.
I can see options : LXDE, GNOME, OpenBox, System Default, MATE, Gnome
Classic, and one or two others.
The system default options goes into lxde.
I just need to be guided to proper steps to remove lxde, related packages
as well as the entry of LXDE from gdm3 option.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> On Wednesday 16 September 2015 16:39:29 Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> > I mean is used the command "tasksel remove ". Why ? I got that
> > solution in a Google search.
> > I tried "aptitude purge LXDE", it showed 0 to install and 0 to remove
> etc.
> > I just want to remove all the applications of LXDE and also remove the
> > option to run into LXDE from "gdm"
> > That's all!
>
> Apart from in gdm, and Gnome id a law unto itself, whar else is still
> tehre?
>
> Have you tried # dpkg-reconfigure gdm?
>
> I had trouble with  in Jessie, but never in Wheezy,
> and
> there has been time for any bug to be ironed out.  It just might help.
>
> Can you not just ignore it?
>
> Please don't reply to me privately.  I read the list.
>
> Lisi
>
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Lisi Reisz 
> wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 16 September 2015 16:18:10 Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> > > > Now, I removed LXDE from Tasksel and installed Mate desktop.
> > >
> > > More detail needed.  What do you mean by you "removed LXDE from
> Tasksel"?
> > >
> > > To remove LXDE you needed to:
> > > # aptitude purge LXDE
> > > or similar with other package manager.
> > >
> > > Lisi
>
>


-- 
Himanshu Shekhar
IIIT-Allahabad
IRM2015006


Re: how to sum a column in openoffice calc

2015-09-16 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 03:12:22PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 06:02 -0700, Li Wei wrote:
> > I want sum of a column of values
> > I enter "SUM(N1:N8)" in cell N9
> > but can't get cell N9 to display sum
> > 
> > Thanks in advance!!!
> > 
> > PS: I'm in China and can't use google to find answer

Pardon my piggybacking on Sven's message, I don't have the original.

I wonder if Mr. Li may have left out the "=" before his formula?

It should look like:

=SUM(N1:N8)
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Re: Squid como descobrir porque o acesso foi negado

2015-09-16 Thread Rafael Bedendo
Coloque no squid.conf a linha debug_options ALL,1 33,2 e acompanhe pelo 
/var/log/cache.log


Abraço

Rafael Bedendo

Em 16/09/2015 14:54, hamacker escreveu:

Olá pessoal,

Estou com um problema chato de resolver, um determinado usuario está 
tentando acessar:

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/09/1676280-dilma-sanciona-desoneracao-da-folha-e-veta-aliquota-para-setor-de-vestuario.shtml

O log realmente registra a negação:
1442425881 .469 18 192.168.1.52 TCP_DENIED/403 5419 
GET 
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/09/1676280-dilma-sanciona-desoneracao-da-folha-e-veta-aliquota-para-setor-de-vestuario.shtml 
fulano HIER_NONE/- text/html


O detalhe é que não nega a página princial (folha.com.br 
), só esta subpágina.
Eu realmente tenho uma lista de sites negados e extensoes negadas, mas 
olhando manualmente, o link acima não é aplicável .


Pesquisando o Google, fiz a seguinte alteração:
deny_info ERR_URL_PROIBIDAS vidy_url_proibidos
http_access deny url_proibidos !usuarios_administradores 
!usuarios_sembloqueio  !horario_livre


#
# inibe o download de certas extensoes  #
#
deny_info ERR_ARQUIVO_PROIBIDO vidy_extensoes_proibidas
http_access deny extensoes_proibidas !usuarios_administradores 
!usuarios_sembloqueio !sites_download


E entao criei arquivos HTMLs ERR_URL_PROIBIDAS  e ERR_ARQUIVO_PROIBIDO 
para personalizar o erro, porém continua dando mensagem de acesso 
negado "O seguinte erro foi encontrado ao tentar recuperar a 
URL:()" e não é nenhuma das duas páginas de erro que personalizei 
para a ACL.


Se eu coloco o usuário na ACL usuarios_administradores, o  qual não 
tem bloqueio, então ele passa a ver normalmente a página.


Parece então que fiz o DENY_INFO errado.

Alguém aí tem uma dica melhor para debugar o que acontece?




Re: Jessie : erreurs au démarrage. EFI ?

2015-09-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Alain Rpnpif a écrit :
> 
> En essayant de te répondre, j'ai enfin trouvé la partition EFI ! Oui
> elle existe. Elle se trouvait cachée parmi les 7 partitions de mon
> disque sdb alors que je ne cherchais bêtement que sur sda.

A la bonne heure.

> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
> GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10
> 
> Partition table scan:
>   MBR: MBR only
>   BSD: not present
>   APM: not present
>   GPT: not present
(...)
> Je n'utilise jamais gdisk car je ne connaissais pas. il me dit que mon
> disque sda est anormalement partitionné (?).

Non, il dit juste que /dev/sda a une table de partition au format
traditionnel MSDOS (dans le MBR). Gdisk est un outil réservé aux tables
de partition GPT, ou pour convertir une table au format MSDOS en GPT (ce
qu'il propose quand on l'exécute sur un disque au format MSDOS). Il ne
permet pas de gérer les tables de partition MSDOS.

> Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.
> Disk /dev/sdb: 976773168 sectors, 465.8 GiB
(...)
>62048   77823   37.0 MiBEF00

Voilà notre partition système EFI avec le code caractéristique affiché
par gdisk (ouais, faut le savoir car le véritable identifiant de type
est un GUID qui n'a rien à voir). On la retrouve sous une forme un peu
différente (plus lisible) affichée par fdisk :

> /dev/sdb6   2048 77823 75776   37M EFI System

> Par contre, je crois me souvenir avoir partitionné avec gparted  et je
> n'ai jamais déclaré ce type "Microsoft basic data" !? Le disque est en
> GPT volontairement. Toutes les partitions de sdb2 à sdb5 et sdb7 sont en
> ext4. Ce serait fdisk qui est perdu avec GPT ?

Non. Avant Jessie, le type "Microsoft basic data" était utilisé par
défaut pour les partitions Linux avant qu'elles n'aient leur propre
identifiant de type. C'est sans importance.

> sdb6 ne contient que 
> ls -a EFI/*
> .  ..  grubx64.efi

J'aurais aimé voir la date du fichier.
Tu as vraiment copié toute la sortie ? Le fichier grubx64.efi, qui est
la core image de GRUB EFI 64 bits, devrait être dans un sous-répertoire
EFI/debian, comme on peut le voir dans l'entrée d'amorçage "debian"
affichée par efibootmgr :

> sudo efibootmgr -v
> BootCurrent: 
> Timeout: 1 seconds
> BootOrder: ,0001,0005,0004
> Boot* debian
> HD(6,800,12800,3f8e8876-07aa-bbfa-9d54-53b22b0f51c1)File(\EFI\debian\grubx64.efi)
> Boot0001* Hard Drive
> BIOS(2,0,00)..GO..NOo.S.T.5.0.0.D.M.0.0.2.-.1.B.D.1.4.2...
> Boot0004* UEFI: Built-in EFI Shell
> Vendor(5023b95c-db26-429b-a648-bd47664c8012,)..BO 
> Boot0005* CD/DVD Drive
> BIOS(3,0,00)..GO..NOu.O.p.t.i.a.r.c. .D.V.D. .R.W. .A.D.-.5.2.8.0.S...
> Ça sent un peu le bogue !

En quoi ?

> Que vient faire le binaire dans cette commande ?

Quel binaire ? Le texte des entrées EFI est encodé en UTF16, avec deux
octets par caractère, donc un est le code ASCII classique pour les
caractères courants. C'est ce qui donne ces points entre chaque
caractère à l'affichage.

On peut deviner, en plus de l'entrée pour Debian, des entrées pour
l'amorçage en mode BIOS sur un disque dur ST500DM002 (Seagate ?) et un
lecteur de DVD Optiarc.

> Boot correspond à la partition sdb6.

Logique, c'est la partition système EFI qui contient la core image du
chargeur GRUB.

 Boot0001, euh, je ne sais pas,
> sans doute l'ancien sda qui contient 4 partitions.

Oui, probablement.

> Au vu de tout ça, blkid est-elle bien utile ?

Non, puisque la partition système EFI est identifiée. Maintenant, il
faut vérifier si cette partition /dev/sdb6 est montée sur /boot/EFI en
vrai avec mount ou df et dans /etc/fstab.

Mon hypothèse, c'est que le fichier de configuration /boot/grub/grub.cfg
a été généré pour la version de GRUB de Jessie mais que le chargeur
actif est encore la version précédente de GRUB de Wheezy, la core image
du chargeur de Jessie n'ayant pu être installée correctement si la
partition système EFI n'est pas montée comme il faut.



Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly

2015-09-16 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 10:00 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > It's a minimal HAL to satisfy the DRM in Flash. 
> 
> Thanks.  I'll check it out.  Maybe, I can adapt it to Wheezy.  Or at
> least find out what's needs to be installed to get Hulu to work.

Yeah, I don't know what shape it's in, but it's probably easier to use
as a workaround than to shoehorn the full hal in. 

Best would be if someone would properly maintain it for Debian of
course.

If it's needed at all, according to this, just cleaning the flash cache
was enough to get Amazon working. No idea if it works for Hulu too?
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660521

-- 
Cheers,
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Re: Cuidadión con el paquete de LO de los backports (Jessie)

2015-09-16 Thread Eduardo Rios

El 16/09/15 a las 16:28, Camaleón escribió:

El Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:57:55 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:


El 16/09/15 a las 15:10, Camaleón escribió:


(...)


No sé, yo no he instalado nunca firefox, thunderbird ni libreoffice
upstream (en Linux, claro). Será fácil, no digo que no, pero parece
que me da mas tranquilidad vía synaptic


¿"Tranquilidad" en qué sentido?

Si te refieres a estar protegido con las actualizaciones de seguridad
te diría que es casi lo contrario ya que en Debian tardan más tiempo en
aplicar los parches, lo cuál es lógico ya que los tienen que hacer para
varias arquitecturas y versiones (estable/testing).

Te iba a decir que la única ventaja que le veo a usar estos paquetes de
Debian es la sencillez pero es que, con estos paquetes precisamente, ni
eso :-)


Me expresé mal. Con tranquilidad me refería a eso mismo, a la sencillez
de que con synaptic se instalan / actualizan los paquetes y sus
dependencias. Del otro método, no sé, puede que la instalación
interfiera con librerías u otros paquetes, ¿no?


Están muy bien empaquetados, no interfieren. Por otra parte, habilitar el
repo de backports tampoco resulta siempre un camino de rosas ;-)

Saludos,



Por curiosidad, he probado a instalar los paquetes upstream, y muy bien, 
y más fácil imposible. :)


Pero... no me convence este método:

Al desinstalar los paquetes de Debian, me ha desinstalado el paquete 
gnome (sé que es un metapaquete que no afecta), pero a parte de 
aparecerme 60 paquetes nuevos de libreoffice como instalados localmente 
u obsoletos (los nuevos 5.0.1), lo peor es que me aparecían no se 
cuantos como autodesinstalables (creo que juegos de gnome y no sé que más)


Resumiendo, que he vuelto a dejar los de Debian. Instalando los de 
backports tampoco van tan retrasados. Y además, no siempre son 
necesarias las últimas versiones. Siempre se puede esperar a que Debian 
los actualice :)


Tanta "versionitis" me recuerda a Windows :-D

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Re: Messages au format html

2015-09-16 Thread Philippe Gras

Le 16 sept. 2015 à 18:37, Jean-Michel OLTRA  a 
écrit :

> 
>Bonjour,
> 
> 
> Le mercredi 16 septembre 2015, steve a écrit…

Merci de le signaler, je n'ai jamais fait attention au format de mes messages.

Quelle est la conséquence d'un envoi au format HTML par rapport aux envois

en texte brut ?
> 
> 
>> Me semble que la proportion de ce genre de messages est en
>> augmentation depuis quelques temps. Je ne me l'explique pas, mais ce
>> serait sympa de faire un effort et de ne poster qu'en texte pur.
> 
> En es tu bien sûr ? Ce n'est pas mon impression.
> 
> -- 
> jm
> 



Editor pagines wiki

2015-09-16 Thread Robert Marsellés
Hola a tots,

No tinc gaire interès en aquest tema ja que sempre penso en no en sé
prou com per afegir rés a cap lloc. Únicament, de tant en tant, reviso
els correus de les llistes. El procés és breu i senzill:

1) Login
2) Marcar els missatges que toqui
3) Canviar <> --> <

Re: Messages au format html

2015-09-16 Thread maderios

Le 16/09/2015 20:48, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :

Philippe Gras a écrit :


Quelle est la conséquence d'un envoi au format HTML par rapport aux envois
en texte brut ?


C'est beaucoup plus lourd et beaucoup plus moche. Et bien sûr, ça


Plus lourd, oui: encombrement des serveurs, empreinte carbone élevée, 
moins rapide et surtout inutile dans le cadre d'une liste Debian.
Plus moche, non, c'est même le contraire dans la mesure où l'on peut 
intégrer des images, couleurs, etc...

affiche du charabia plein de balises dans les lecteurs de mail qui ne
savent pas lire le HTML.


Ces lecteurs de mail peuvent convertir le html en .txt

--
Maderios



Re: [Résolu] [HS] [Complètement HS] Comment arrivent-ils à faire ça ?

2015-09-16 Thread Philippe Gras

Le 16 sept. 2015 à 21:26, Christophe  a écrit :

> Hello,
> 
> Le 16/09/2015 20:36, Philippe Gras a écrit :
>> 
>> Veuillez m'excuser, je pose la question ici parce que je ne vois pas à qui 
>> d'autre la poser (Yahoo Q/R ? LOL)
>> 
> 
> Quelle est la question au juste ?
> 
> Si c'est pour ça :
> 
> curl: (6) Could not resolve host: www.tsce.net; nodename nor servname 
> provided, or not known
> 
> Tout simplement par ce qu'il manque un enregistrement A,  ou CNAME sur 
> www .

Ah, ouais ! C'est exact. C'est juste un boulot pas fini (ça vient du pôle 
emploi, j'balance).

Merci :-)
> 



Systemd ignores / overrides 'shutdown -t' delay?

2015-09-16 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

Ralph Katz:

There is no "-t" option.


Jonathan de Boyne Pollard:
In fact there is. It's undocumented; and is one of four undocumented  > compatibility options, alongside -a, -f, and -F, that are simply > 
parsed and then ignored. There is a fifth undocumented option with an > 
effect, -K.

David Wright:

May I ask what its effect is?
Reboot the system into a replacement kernel with kexec.  It's from a 
System 5 shutdown option that didn't make into the mainstream.


* http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/fastboot/2005-June/008429.html



Re: [NI SIQUIERA califica como OT ]nstalar Proxmox en Asus P8-H81M-D

2015-09-16 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:41:35 -0400
Yoandy Madrazo Gómez  escribió:

> 
> 
> El 15/09/2015 a las 10:31 PM, Angel Claudio Alvarez escribió:
> > El Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:01:56 -0400
> > Yoandy Madrazo Gómez  escribió:
> >
> >> Hola a todos, resulta que tengo una pc que venía con W7, la borré para
> >> instalarle proxmox, el proceso de instalación se hace sin problemas pero
> >> la pc no levanta el proxmox sino que me manda directo para el SETUP de
> >> esta. Alguna forma?
> > Te equivocaste de lista
> > Esta no es una lista de proxmox y, a pedido de Felix,
> > esta no es la lista de camaleon
> > En el sitio de proxmox tenes detallados los distintos tipos de ayuda
> >
> Acaso sabes que cosa es Proxmox, para tu información es un debian con 
> herramientas propias para la virtualización, cuando en esta lista se 
> hacen preguntas sobre squid o postfix por solo citar par de ejemplos 
> nadie anda diciendo que no son listas de esos softwares así que si no 
> vas a ayudar mejor borras el correo y ya.

un simple apt-cache search squid trae resultados
un simple apt-cache search postfix trae resultados
un simple apt-cache search proxmox trae NADA
proxmox != debian

TE  VOLVES a EQUIVOCAR
> 
> Saludos, Yoandy
> >> Saludos
> >>
> >
> 
> 


-- 
Angel Claudio Alvarez 



[BRUIT][JM2L] 9e Journée Méditerranéennes du Logiciel Libre à Sophia Antipolis

2015-09-16 Thread David Pinson

Bonjour à tous,
Pouvez-vous nous aider à faire du bruit autour de vous ?
Merci à vous,



Le 28 Novembre 2015 aura lieu la 9ème édition des Journées
Méditerranéennes du Logiciel Libre (JM2L) à Polytech'Nice destinée à
tout public.

Rencontrer les acteurs du logiciel libre, partager ses expériences comme
ses connaissances avec eux, s'informer avant de se lancer dans cet autre
univers du logiciel ou de mettre en place un projet en Open Source :
c'est ce que permet la Journée Méditerranéenne du Logiciel Libre
organisée par l'association Linux Azur à l'école Polytech'Nice-Sophia
(école d'ingénieur du réseau Polytech). Une communauté très ouverte qui
comprend de nombreux membres tels que des collectivités locales,
entreprises, SS2L, associations d'étudiants ou de particuliers. Cette
journée est aussi ouverte. Elle s'adresse à tous, simple visiteur,
débutant en informatique ou initiés.

Accès libre et gratuit.

Le Logiciel Libre est en plein essor dans le monde entier, il s'agit
donc d'une occasion unique de découvrir ce que le monde du Libre peut
vous apporter au travers un programme de conférences et d'ateliers tout
au long de la journée.

De nombreux logiciels présentés sont des programmes informatiques conçus
grâce à la collaboration le plus souvent bénévole de centaines de
milliers de personnes dans le monde entier. De nombreux contributeurs ne
sont pas informaticiens, mais testeurs, traducteurs, graphistes,
scénaristes, pédagogues, etc. Chacun peut ainsi apporter sa pierre à
l'édifice, précise l'association Linux Azur.

Contact :
Site Web :http://jm2l.linux-azur.org/

Lieu : Polytech'Nice-Sophia 930, Route des Colles, Sophia Antipolis

--
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-
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jm2l 2015 ~ 9° édition
http://jm2l.linux-azur.org



Re: Test Post (Ignore)

2015-09-16 Thread Patrick Wiseman
It won't, until someone replies to it on the debian user list. That's
a "feature" of gmail.

Patrick

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> Just a test to see if this email gets mirrored back to me.
>
> B
>



Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly

2015-09-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

> On 09/16/2015 01:53 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > About two years ago, my original posts to the list stopped being
> > mirrored back to me. This happened spontaneously:  one day I'd see
> > my post; the next day -- literally -- I didn't.  (Replies to
> > others' posts showed up as they should.)  Never could figure out
> > why.
> 
> This is (or was) a "feature" of gmail - since the email is in the Sent
> folder, it does not reappear in the Inbox when the mailing list copy
> is received.

The problem started under Yahoo mail.  I switched to a gmail address,
but that didn't fix it.

> > Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to
> > me.  Don't know what caused it.  I didn't do anything.  Gremlins,
> > maybe.
> 
> I have no idea why, maybe gmail's behavior changed.

Gmail's been making lots of changes.  Can't say they are good ones.  I
don't use the browser interface, but IMAP with claws mail client.

B



Re: Debian + Windows com UEFI

2015-09-16 Thread Isaac Ferreira Filho



On 16-09-2015 01:11, real bas wrote:

Obrigado Danilo,
Depois de muitas tentativas (nem sabia qual tecla ia pro boot 
manager), enfim consegui instalar, o programa pra criar o usb não quis 
criar pra versão live do debian (acho que era porque não tinha as 
pastas boot e efi) então fui pela iso do DVD mesmo, demorou um pouco 
mas funcionou.


Que bom que funcionou!
Me conta sua experiência com esse notebook pois tenho um igual. Depois 
dá uma olhada no histórico da lista para ver umas questões que coloquei 
e que foram, boa parte respondidas.


Abraços

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Jabber: isaacmob arroba riseup.net
@yzakius



Re: Debian sid transition to KDE 5?

2015-09-16 Thread Joe
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:16:42 +0100
Joe  wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 22:26:30 +0200
> Siard  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:41 +0100, Joe wrote:
> > > apt-get dist-upgrade comes up with a solution, but wants to remove
> > > forty or fifty packages, including gimp, which I use regularly.
> > 
> > I did an apt-get dist-upgrade.  It removed gimp, aptitude and
> > kde-full, among others.  Immediately after that, I could reinstall
> > gimp.  A couple of days later, I could reinstall aptitude, and some
> > week later I could reinstall kde-full.
> > Now all dependency problems have gone and everything looks fine,
> > even with deb-multimedia in sources.list.  [stretch]
> > 
> 
> OK, thanks, I may give it a go when I have a bit of time.
> 

Yes, it seemed to go all right, and I could immediately reinstall gimp,
which needed another library. Apt-get wasn't bright enough to handle
that during the upgrade, and aptitude was just overwhelmed by package
numbers.

Just the three buggy ones left...

-- 
Joe



Re: Running HAL and udev Simultaneously

2015-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 18:46:33 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On 09/16/2015 01:53 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > About two years ago, my original posts to the list stopped being
> > mirrored back to me. This happened spontaneously:  one day I'd see my
> > post; the next day -- literally -- I didn't.  (Replies to others' posts
> > showed up as they should.)  Never could figure out why.
>
> This is (or was) a "feature" of gmail - since the email is in the Sent
> folder, it does not reappear in the Inbox when the mailing list copy is
> received.
>
> > Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to
> > me.  Don't know what caused it.  I didn't do anything.  Gremlins, maybe.
>
> I have no idea why, maybe gmail's behavior changed.

Did you change your SMTP server?  If you use Gmail's SMTP server, this 
happens.  (Your emails don't come back to you.)  If you use another SMTP 
server, Gmail labels your emails as possible spam, but your emails come back 
to you.

I hadn't noticed that your email address was Gmail.

Lisi



Re: [NI SIQUIERA califica como OT ]nstalar Proxmox en Asus P8-H81M-D

2015-09-16 Thread Yoandy Madrazo Gómez



El 16/09/2015 a las 5:32 PM, Angel Claudio Alvarez escribió:

El Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:41:35 -0400
Yoandy Madrazo Gómez  escribió:



El 15/09/2015 a las 10:31 PM, Angel Claudio Alvarez escribió:

El Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:01:56 -0400
Yoandy Madrazo Gómez  escribió:


Hola a todos, resulta que tengo una pc que venía con W7, la borré para
instalarle proxmox, el proceso de instalación se hace sin problemas pero
la pc no levanta el proxmox sino que me manda directo para el SETUP de
esta. Alguna forma?

Te equivocaste de lista
Esta no es una lista de proxmox y, a pedido de Felix,
esta no es la lista de camaleon
En el sitio de proxmox tenes detallados los distintos tipos de ayuda


Acaso sabes que cosa es Proxmox, para tu información es un debian con
herramientas propias para la virtualización, cuando en esta lista se
hacen preguntas sobre squid o postfix por solo citar par de ejemplos
nadie anda diciendo que no son listas de esos softwares así que si no
vas a ayudar mejor borras el correo y ya.

un simple apt-cache search squid trae resultados
un simple apt-cache search postfix trae resultados
un simple apt-cache search proxmox trae NADA
proxmox != debian

TE  VOLVES a EQUIVOCAR
Siento no haber puesto el OT, estoy en tantas cosas que fue en lo menos 
que pensé, pero es que buscas mal, tienes que hacer una búsqueda por 
openvz y kvm.


Saludos y por favor cerrar este hilo y el anterior que no aporta nada.



Saludos, Yoandy

Saludos










Test Post (Ignore)

2015-09-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
Just a test to see if this email gets mirrored back to me.

B



Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly

2015-09-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Wednesday 16 September 2015 17:53:41 Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to
> > me.  Don't know what caused it.  I didn't do anything.  Gremlins,
> > maybe.
> 
> :-))  The red highlighting of spelling mistakes suddenly started to
> work in my email client.  I did nothing new.  Thank you gremlins. ;-)

Never stopped working here even in claws mail.  Also, have to send a new
post to see if my previous post being mirrored back was not a fluke.

B



Re: Test Post (Ignore)

2015-09-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 22:16:11 Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> It won't, until someone replies to it on the debian user list. That's
> a "feature" of gmail.

It depends on what he uses as his SMTP server and email client.
>
> Patrick
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> > Just a test to see if this email gets mirrored back to me.
> >
> > B

Lisi



Re: Reinicios aleatorios

2015-09-16 Thread Sergio Bessopeanetto

El 16/09/15 a las 10:08, Josu Lazkano escribió:

Buenas,

Gracias a todos por responder.

He estado monitoreando la temperatura y no sube demasiado:

http://i61.tinypic.com/avrgqe.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/29pswsk.png
http://i58.tinypic.com/20u3k35.png
http://i60.tinypic.com/2lid37k.png

Ayer se me reinicio otra vez a las 20:45, en la grafica no se ve gran cosa.

Ya he creado la carpeta "journal", a ver si estos dias veo algo mas.

Saludos.


Y la fuente? También suena a una fuente con microcortes por falla 
eléctrica o porque está avisando que se está por quemar.


--
Sergio Bessopeanetto
Buenos Aires - Argentina



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