Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 10 Jul 2008, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:47:56AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jul 2008, Christofer C. Bell wrote: ^ Haven't seen that spelling before, interesting. div class=gmail_quoteOn Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Anthony Campbell lt;a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/agt; wrote:brblockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex; Since you posted in a form I couldn't read, I can't reply. Hi, I see you are using mutt. Put this in your .muttrc: auto_view text/html and you should now be able to see the message rendered in a browser. Yes, I know, and I did have the necessary entries in ~/mailcap on my other machines but not on this one. Most of the html stuff I get is spam. I have to admit to irritation at receiving it on this list; when I do get html emails that are not spam they are usually from Windows users who don't know any better. Some of the moderated lists I subscribe to specify no html. Rant over. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On Thu,10.Jul.08, 09:15:37, Anthony Campbell wrote: I see you are using mutt. Put this in your .muttrc: auto_view text/html and you should now be able to see the message rendered in a browser. Yes, I know, and I did have the necessary entries in ~/mailcap on my other machines but not on this one. Most of the html stuff I get is spam. I have to admit to irritation at receiving it on this list; when I do get html emails that are not spam they are usually from Windows users who don't know any better. Some of the moderated lists I subscribe to specify no html. Rant over. http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct * Never send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:47:56AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jul 2008, Christofer C. Bell wrote: ^ Haven't seen that spelling before, interesting. div class=gmail_quoteOn Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Anthony Campbell lt;a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/agt; wrote:brblockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex; Since you posted in a form I couldn't read, I can't reply. Hi, I see you are using mutt. Put this in your .muttrc: auto_view text/html and you should now be able to see the message rendered in a browser. -- Chris. == One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted. -- Thomas B. Reed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:42:52AM +1200, Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:47:56AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jul 2008, Christofer C. Bell wrote: ^ Haven't seen that spelling before, interesting. div class=gmail_quoteOn Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Anthony Campbell lt;a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/agt; wrote:brblockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex; Since you posted in a form I couldn't read, I can't reply. Hi, I see you are using mutt. Put this in your .muttrc: auto_view text/html and you should now be able to see the message rendered in a browser. You may also want to try alternative_order text/enriched text/plain text which I think is probably the reason that I see the text version of Christofer's email and not the HTML version. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 07 Jul 2008, Christofer C. Bell wrote: div class=gmail_quoteOn Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Anthony Campbell lt;a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/agt; wrote:brblockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex; Since you posted in a form I couldn't read, I can't reply. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0) SOLVED
On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: Filing the bug (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489765) immediately produced an answer: you have to enter gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups in ~/.gtkrc-2.0. Then lpr printing works with standard Debian packages. I think it is a bug that this is not done automatically, or at least with some warning during install. Anthony, I hope that this will work in your case. It will need some more research to find out why it worked by default with the user-compiled versions, but I think I won't be bothered. Regards, Jan It does, it does! Thank you for pointing me to this. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 15:06, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: I'll just mention the follow-up. I just tried installing gtk+-2.10 (compiling source from http://www.gtk.org/) and indeed, print to lpr now appears in the print dialog. Without cups or xprint. Just lprng. So as soon as gtk+-2.10 appears in Sid, this problem will be over. You're a bit behind the times, Jan! ;) $ apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0: Installed: 2.12.10-2 Candidate: 2.12.10-2 Version table: *** 2.12.10-2 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Indeed. Very strange. And I even have it installed. But ff3 can print to lpr only when I install the compiled-from-source version of 2.10 (in /usr/local). As soon as I uninstall it, lpr printing on ff3 becomes unavailable. /usr/lib/gtk-2.0 (the Debian version) contains subdirectories: 2.10.0 2.2.0 2.4.0 include modules No 2.12.0! I don't understand this numbering system. /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0 contains: 2.10.0 2.2.0 2.4.0 include (no modules, but the same version numbers). The real difference is probably to be found here: the Sid version has: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -alG /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/ total 104 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 4096 2008-06-09 17:32 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root 4096 2007-04-15 14:58 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root 52980 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-cups.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root 13044 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-file.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root 10084 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-lpr.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root 11140 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-test.so While the compiled-from-source version (from gtk.org) has: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -alG /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/ total 92 drwxr-sr-x 2 root 4096 2008-07-06 21:26 . drwxr-sr-x 6 root 4096 2008-07-06 21:26 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1315 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-file.la -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 37984 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-file.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1309 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-lpr.la -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 34034 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-lpr.so I compiled by just ./configure, make, without setting any options. So by default gtk does not have a cups print backend, only lpr and file (when compiled on a cups-less system, I presume). The Debian version has lpr and file, as well as cups and something called test. Maybe you can explain these findings. Anyway it seems that the bug is not in ff3 but in libgtk2.0-0. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 06 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: Huh *Using* CUPS is as difficult as rolling off a log. - -- It's some time since I used CUPS so perhaps it's easier to set up now than it was then. But lpr + magicfilter doesn't need you to climb on the log at all. I just run magicfilterconfig, answer three questions, and there you are! Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Indeed. Very strange. And I even have it installed. But ff3 can print to lpr only when I install the compiled-from-source version of 2.10 (in /usr/local). As soon as I uninstall it, lpr printing on ff3 becomes unavailable. /usr/lib/gtk-2.0 (the Debian version) contains subdirectories: 2.10.0 2.2.0 2.4.0 include modules No 2.12.0! I don't understand this numbering system. /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0 contains: 2.10.0 2.2.0 2.4.0 include (no modules, but the same version numbers). The real difference is probably to be found here: the Sid version has: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -alG /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/ total 104 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 4096 2008-06-09 17:32 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root 4096 2007-04-15 14:58 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root 52980 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-cups.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root 13044 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-file.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root 10084 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-lpr.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root 11140 2008-06-07 11:16 libprintbackend-test.so While the compiled-from-source version (from gtk.org) has: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -alG /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/ total 92 drwxr-sr-x 2 root 4096 2008-07-06 21:26 . drwxr-sr-x 6 root 4096 2008-07-06 21:26 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1315 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-file.la -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 37984 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-file.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 1309 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-lpr.la -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 34034 2008-07-06 21:26 libprintbackend-lpr.so I compiled by just ./configure, make, without setting any options. So by default gtk does not have a cups print backend, only lpr and file (when compiled on a cups-less system, I presume). The Debian version has lpr and file, as well as cups and something called test. Maybe you can explain these findings. Anyway it seems that the bug is not in ff3 but in libgtk2.0-0. It didn't work here. I did the same thing and the appropriate stuff in /usr/local but I still can't print. Did you do something to make FF see the gtk-2.10 stuff? Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: I compiled by just ./configure, make, without setting any options. So by default gtk does not have a cups print backend, only lpr and file (when compiled on a cups-less system, I presume). The Debian version has lpr and file, as well as cups and something called test. [..] It didn't work here. I did the same thing and the appropriate stuff in /usr/local but I still can't print. Did you do something to make FF see the gtk-2.10 stuff? Probably. I messed around a bit with the settings in about:config. Some settings I have now: print.postscript.cups.enabled false [AFAIK not a default setting; you have to create it] print.print_paper_size 1 print.printer_list lp print.save_print_settings true print.show_print_progress true Most of these about:config settings related to printing do not seem to do anything, though. What do you mean by the appropriate stuff in /usr/local? make install as root takes care of that. make uninstall undoes the changes, useful for testing. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 07/07/2008 04:12 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: [ good advice snipped ] It didn't work here. I did the same thing and the appropriate stuff in /usr/local but I still can't print. Did you do something to make FF see the gtk-2.10 stuff? Anthony I did. I installed gtk+2.10 to a non-standard location to prevent it from conflicting with gtk+2.8. I suggest you place something like gtk+2.10 in a new directory, e.g. /usr/local/exotic; when you install, you'll get a /usr/local/exotic/lib directory containing the library binaries. I also created a startup script for firefox that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the 'lib' directory where gtk+2.10's binaries are installed, e.g.: #!/bin/sh #-firefox-3.0.sh- export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/exotic/lib exec /usr/local/firefox-3.0/firefox -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: I compiled by just ./configure, make, without setting any options. So by default gtk does not have a cups print backend, only lpr and file (when compiled on a cups-less system, I presume). The Debian version has lpr and file, as well as cups and something called test. [..] It didn't work here. I did the same thing and the appropriate stuff in /usr/local but I still can't print. Did you do something to make FF see the gtk-2.10 stuff? Probably. I messed around a bit with the settings in about:config. Some settings I have now: print.postscript.cups.enabled false [AFAIK not a default setting; you have to create it] print.print_paper_size 1 print.printer_list lp print.save_print_settings true print.show_print_progress true Most of these about:config settings related to printing do not seem to do anything, though. What do you mean by the appropriate stuff in /usr/local? make install as root takes care of that. make uninstall undoes the changes, useful for testing. Regards, Jan I installed the gtk stuff in that way and I do have the entries you listed. But I don't seem to have the same printer entries in about:config. I have put print.print_printer user_set string lpr which doesn't seem to work. I can't see options for your other entries. How did you create an entry for print.postscript.cups.enabled? Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 07 Jul 2008, Mumia W.. wrote: On 07/07/2008 04:12 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: [ good advice snipped ] It didn't work here. I did the same thing and the appropriate stuff in /usr/local but I still can't print. Did you do something to make FF see the gtk-2.10 stuff? Anthony I did. I installed gtk+2.10 to a non-standard location to prevent it from conflicting with gtk+2.8. I suggest you place something like gtk+2.10 in a new directory, e.g. /usr/local/exotic; when you install, you'll get a /usr/local/exotic/lib directory containing the library binaries. I also created a startup script for firefox that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the 'lib' directory where gtk+2.10's binaries are installed, e.g.: #!/bin/sh #-firefox-3.0.sh- export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/exotic/lib exec /usr/local/firefox-3.0/firefox Doesn't seem to help here. I don't have any lib directory in gtk-2.10; just engines, immodules, printbackends, and loaders. Perhaps I should have used an earlier version of gtk-2.10? Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Anthony Campbell wrote: I installed the gtk stuff in that way and I do have the entries you listed. But I don't seem to have the same printer entries in about:config. I have put print.print_printer user_set string lpr which doesn't seem to work. I can't see options for your other entries. How did you create an entry for print.postscript.cups.enabled? I set print.print_printer to PostScript/Default, not lpr. But it does not seem to matter. New preferences can be made by right-clicking anywhere in about:config and selecting New. It does not seem possible to remove such preferences once they are created. But the setting of print.postscript.cups.enabled also did not matter. I changed it from false to true and I can still print. I cannot remember exactly which other about:config print things I changed, but I now tried several other things, and none seem to matter. I hope you get it sorted out. Which version exactly did you download from gtk.org? Mine is gtk+-2.10.13. Tarball was called gtk+-2.10.13.tar.bz2 (an older version, not the stable 2.12 version). BTW Mumia W., according to his message, stores his newly-compiled gtk in an exotic location. I didn't do this. /usr/local (the default when you compile from gtk.org) is exotic enough. Stuff which is installed there has priority over similarly-named stuff in /usr. Do you have a printer named lp in printcap? (Or named as an alternative, such as LaserJet|lp ?). Well, I suppose you do. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Anthony Campbell wrote: Mumia M. wrote: I also created a startup script for firefox that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the 'lib' directory where gtk+2.10's binaries are installed, e.g.: #!/bin/sh #-firefox-3.0.sh- export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/exotic/lib exec /usr/local/firefox-3.0/firefox Doesn't seem to help here. I don't have any lib directory in gtk-2.10; just engines, immodules, printbackends, and loaders. Perhaps I should have used an earlier version of gtk-2.10? The standard self-compiled install puts *lots* of stuff in /usr/local, e.g. in /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/share /usr/local/etc /usr/local/lib contains a subdirectory gtk-2.0 which has engines, immodules, printbackends, and loaders in it. But also /usr/local/lib (above gtk-2.10, not inside it) will contain new gtk things. BTW Mumia, it seems you use a (probably non-Debian) firefox (because you use Etch), which is also in /usr/local. I use Sid, and I can now print with the standard Debian Iceweasel. The difficult thing now is to pinpoint where the bug is, exactly. Ihe official Debian source files of libgtk2.0-0 are much bigger than the gtk+-2.10 ones on gtk.org (23 MB vs 14 MB). To compile the Debian version (which does not allow lpr printing through ff3) you need to install *lots* of extra packages: gnome-common intltool libcairo-directfb2 libcups2-dev chrpath gtk-doc-tools libcairo-directfb2-dev libcupsys2-dev svn-buildpackage unp gnome-pkg-tools libsvn-perl svn-buildpackage It seems the package was heavily customised. Maybe some bias favouring CUPS was introduced. But ff2 worked fine, so I am still not certain where the blame really lies. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/07/08 09:14, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: Anthony Campbell wrote: Mumia M. wrote: I also created a startup script for firefox that sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the 'lib' directory where gtk+2.10's binaries are installed, e.g.: #!/bin/sh #-firefox-3.0.sh- export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/exotic/lib exec /usr/local/firefox-3.0/firefox Doesn't seem to help here. I don't have any lib directory in gtk-2.10; just engines, immodules, printbackends, and loaders. Perhaps I should have used an earlier version of gtk-2.10? The standard self-compiled install puts *lots* of stuff in /usr/local, e.g. in /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/share /usr/local/etc /usr/local/lib contains a subdirectory gtk-2.0 which has engines, immodules, printbackends, and loaders in it. But also /usr/local/lib (above gtk-2.10, not inside it) will contain new gtk things. BTW Mumia, it seems you use a (probably non-Debian) firefox (because you use Etch), which is also in /usr/local. I use Sid, and I can now print with the standard Debian Iceweasel. The difficult thing now is to pinpoint where the bug is, exactly. Ihe official Debian source files of libgtk2.0-0 are much bigger than the gtk+-2.10 ones on gtk.org (23 MB vs 14 MB). To compile the Debian version (which does not allow lpr printing through ff3) you need to install *lots* of extra packages: gnome-common intltool libcairo-directfb2 libcups2-dev chrpath gtk-doc-tools libcairo-directfb2-dev libcupsys2-dev svn-buildpackage unp gnome-pkg-tools libsvn-perl svn-buildpackage It seems the package was heavily customised. Maybe some bias favouring CUPS was introduced. But ff2 worked fine, so I am still not certain where the blame really lies. I'd say to file a bug against libgtk2.0-0 and see what response you get. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhyM6kACgkQS9HxQb37XmeHRACg7q9+WCEqFMS2DG+7Z4y/IeTM LbMAn3AUlRryMOMyERK3LjNw0L9oO/1C =WXma -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 07 Jul 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: Anthony Campbell wrote: I installed the gtk stuff in that way and I do have the entries you listed. But I don't seem to have the same printer entries in about:config. I have put print.print_printer user_set string lpr which doesn't seem to work. I can't see options for your other entries. How did you create an entry for print.postscript.cups.enabled? I set print.print_printer to PostScript/Default, not lpr. But it does not seem to matter. New preferences can be made by right-clicking anywhere in about:config and selecting New. It does not seem possible to remove such preferences once they are created. But the setting of print.postscript.cups.enabled also did not matter. I changed it from false to true and I can still print. I cannot remember exactly which other about:config print things I changed, but I now tried several other things, and none seem to matter. I hope you get it sorted out. Which version exactly did you download from gtk.org? Mine is gtk+-2.10.13. Tarball was called gtk+-2.10.13.tar.bz2 (an older version, not the stable 2.12 version). BTW Mumia W., according to his message, stores his newly-compiled gtk in an exotic location. I didn't do this. /usr/local (the default when you compile from gtk.org) is exotic enough. Stuff which is installed there has priority over similarly-named stuff in /usr. Do you have a printer named lp in printcap? (Or named as an alternative, such as LaserJet|lp ?). Well, I suppose you do. Regards, Jan I compiled version 2.20.14, which was the newest I found. I may try 2.10.13 tomorrow, when my brain has recovered. Yes, I do have lp in printcap, pointing to my printer (Kyocera). I always have had; this works perfectly and so doess remote printing from other machines on my network. Incidentally, Iceape prints correctly and so does Opera. I'll soldier on tomorrow; don't like being defeated by these things. Thanks, Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/07/08 09:14, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: It seems the package was heavily customised. Maybe some bias favouring CUPS was introduced. But ff2 worked fine, so I am still not certain where the blame really lies. I'd say to file a bug against libgtk2.0-0 and see what response you get. I just did. It is bug #489765 now. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. Other than the minor detail of not printing from your web browser. How is this working perfectly? 2. because CUPS offers no advantage for me. Other than the dubious advantage of actually working? 3. because when I did use it in the past my output was slightly worse than with my existing setup. This is subjective so I can't speak to it. 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a worse output. Other than the murky benefit of actually being able to print documents from Firefox 3, the original complaint you posted about? I'm not trying to be an ass here, but the reasons you give don't make any sense. If resistance to change is the reason, I can understand that, but because what I have works perfectly isn't a reason -- it obviously *does not* work perfectly for you. What I'm getting at here is that perhaps it's time to bite the bullet and move to CUPS (pretty much the de facto printing standard for UNIX now). It is what's installed by default (ie; to get it working, you need take no action). It is what more people are running (and thus giving you a wider base of support). So, are there *other* reasons you don't want to migrate? -- Chris
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0) SOLVED
Filing the bug (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489765) immediately produced an answer: you have to enter gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups in ~/.gtkrc-2.0. Then lpr printing works with standard Debian packages. I think it is a bug that this is not done automatically, or at least with some warning during install. Anthony, I hope that this will work in your case. It will need some more research to find out why it worked by default with the user-compiled versions, but I think I won't be bothered. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 07/07/2008 07:29 AM, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: [...] BTW Mumia W., according to his message, stores his newly-compiled gtk in an exotic location. I didn't do this. /usr/local (the default when you compile from gtk.org) is exotic enough. Stuff which is installed there has priority over similarly-named stuff in /usr. That's the problem. The gtk+2.10 in /usr/local will be seen before the gtk+2.8 in /usr, and programs that need gtk+2.8 won't work correctly. Do you have a printer named lp in printcap? (Or named as an alternative, such as LaserJet|lp ?). Well, I suppose you do. Regards, Jan Yes, I have an /etc/printcap with a lp entry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0) SOLVED
It will need some more research to find out why it worked by default with the user-compiled versions, but I think I won't be bothered. Probably because it was simply built without support for cups and automatically picked lpr? Here's another bug report about the same problem, http://bugs.debian.org/373911 BTW, when comparing a debian package with the upstream default it's usually best to start by examining the debian sources, both the patches and the way it's configured and built. This is very easy as the debian specific changes (diff.gz) are clearly separated from the upstream source (orig.tar.gz). HTH, -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. 2. because CUPS offers no advantage for me. 3. because when I did use it in the past my output was slightly worse than with my existing setup. 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a worse output. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
On 06 Jul 2008, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. 2. because CUPS offers no advantage for me. 3. because when I did use it in the past my output was slightly worse than with my existing setup. 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a worse output. You are right IMHO; it is a bug, not just the Inevitable March Of Progress. It seems clear that the Firefox developers did not intend to drop lpr support: - they don't say anything about such a change in the Release Notes. - in about:config there are still numerous references to PostScript/Default, lpr., etc. - it seems such a silly thing to remove; very little code can be saved by this. Surely it is a bug. From this item on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430818 it seems that until a few days before the Firefox 3 release (which took place on June 17th) Firefox could not print *at all*. It had a totally empty print dialog box. It seems they could fix it to some extent before the release date, but not completely. Unfortunate for those who have used lpr to complete satisfaction for so long (and not only for directly-connected printers BTW). There are lots of other bugs in the new Firefox/Iceweasel. A particularly serious one (all resized images became black rectangles) apparently was quietly fixed a few days ago. I expect the same will happen with the lpr bug. In the meantime I'll just soldier on with the inoticoming trick. I refuse to change to cups! Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 02:49, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. 2. because CUPS offers no advantage for me. Until They force your hand... :\ 3. because when I did use it in the past my output was slightly worse than with my existing setup. Really? How so? 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a worse output. Huh *Using* CUPS is as difficult as rolling off a log. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhw7HMACgkQS9HxQb37XmfRIgCfWjVoIL4dpZ5UPax7CFsL3BTj RcYAn1pj3abE4EhsYjFM+ZDrLP7xJ+D5 =mGQT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 09:59, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: On 06 Jul 2008, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 05 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? 1. because lpr/lpd and magicfilter work perfectly for me. 2. because CUPS offers no advantage for me. 3. because when I did use it in the past my output was slightly worse than with my existing setup. 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a worse output. You are right IMHO; it is a bug, not just the Inevitable March Of Progress. It seems clear that the Firefox developers did not intend to drop lpr support: - they don't say anything about such a change in the Release Notes. - in about:config there are still numerous references to PostScript/Default, lpr., etc. - it seems such a silly thing to remove; very little code can be saved by this. Surely it is a bug. From this item on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430818 it seems that until a few days before the Firefox 3 release (which took place on June 17th) Firefox could not print *at all*. It had That's weird. Sid only has -rc_2_ and I can print just fine. Unless Eric Dorland (the IW maintainer) fixed the code himself. a totally empty print dialog box. It seems they could fix it to some extent before the release date, but not completely. Unfortunate for those who have used lpr to complete satisfaction for so long (and not only for directly-connected printers BTW). There are lots of other bugs in the new Firefox/Iceweasel. A particularly serious one (all resized images became black rectangles) apparently was quietly fixed a few days ago. Where did you read this? I resize pictures, and they don't turn into black rectangles. Unless what I'm thinking of isn't what they are talking about... I expect the same will happen with the lpr bug. In the meantime I'll just soldier on with the inoticoming trick. I refuse to change to cups! - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhw7gwACgkQS9HxQb37XmdXBgCgyusapBWiUZ+QRiT5vkxOMK+C fDEAoIKRopbnfnd8cSQ0noeJKVfufJvu =OpoV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/06/08 09:59, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: You are right IMHO; it is a bug, not just the Inevitable March Of Progress. It seems clear that the Firefox developers did not intend to drop lpr support: - they don't say anything about such a change in the Release Notes. - in about:config there are still numerous references to PostScript/Default, lpr., etc. - it seems such a silly thing to remove; very little code can be saved by this. Surely it is a bug. From this item on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430818 it seems that until a few days before the Firefox 3 release (which took place on June 17th) Firefox could not print *at all*. [..] That's weird. Sid only has -rc_2_ and I can print just fine. Unless Eric Dorland (the IW maintainer) fixed the code himself. There are lots of other bugs in the new Firefox/Iceweasel. A particularly serious one (all resized images became black rectangles) apparently was quietly fixed a few days ago. I expect the same will happen with the lpr bug. [..] Where did you read this? I resize pictures, and they don't turn into black rectangles. Unless what I'm thinking of isn't what they are talking about... It could be that the black rectangle bug (which occurs / occurred, for instance, when a Web page serves a picture at a specific size, not its natural size) only happened with ATI Radeon cards. There are several bug reports about it, for instance this Ubuntu one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/182038 and very likely also Debian bug #487834. I have a Radeon, and had trouble with this bug in FF3, not in FF2. But as I said, it has disappeared (after an upgrade). The lpr printing bug may also disappear soon. The bugzilla page I mentioned now has a contribution by list member Mumia W. who says lpr printing works again after installing GTK+2.10 (from source). I'm going to try that.. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 12:47, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/06/08 09:59, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: You are right IMHO; it is a bug, not just the Inevitable March Of Progress. It seems clear that the Firefox developers did not intend to drop lpr support: - they don't say anything about such a change in the Release Notes. - in about:config there are still numerous references to PostScript/Default, lpr., etc. - it seems such a silly thing to remove; very little code can be saved by this. Surely it is a bug. From this item on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430818 it seems that until a few days before the Firefox 3 release (which took place on June 17th) Firefox could not print *at all*. [..] That's weird. Sid only has -rc_2_ and I can print just fine. Unless Eric Dorland (the IW maintainer) fixed the code himself. There are lots of other bugs in the new Firefox/Iceweasel. A particularly serious one (all resized images became black rectangles) apparently was quietly fixed a few days ago. I expect the same will happen with the lpr bug. [..] Where did you read this? I resize pictures, and they don't turn into black rectangles. Unless what I'm thinking of isn't what they are talking about... It could be that the black rectangle bug (which occurs / occurred, for instance, when a Web page serves a picture at a specific size, not its natural size) only happened with ATI Radeon cards. There are several bug reports about it, for instance this Ubuntu one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/182038 and very likely also Debian bug #487834. I have a Radeon, and had trouble with this bug in FF3, not in FF2. But as I said, it has disappeared (after an upgrade). According to (at least some posts in) that link, people using the nv driver were having the problem, and those using nvidia were not. The lpr printing bug may also disappear soon. The bugzilla page I mentioned now has a contribution by list member Mumia W. who says lpr printing works again after installing GTK+2.10 (from source). I'm going to try that.. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhxIr0ACgkQS9HxQb37Xmcm2QCfdVO9drQtz/5VRcAxhMWLoZth ES4An3uZXDF7DV+XAPkeCUtY0PMDV+5Y =sUlI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
I'll just mention the follow-up. I just tried installing gtk+-2.10 (compiling source from http://www.gtk.org/) and indeed, print to lpr now appears in the print dialog. Without cups or xprint. Just lprng. So as soon as gtk+-2.10 appears in Sid, this problem will be over. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 15:06, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: I'll just mention the follow-up. I just tried installing gtk+-2.10 (compiling source from http://www.gtk.org/) and indeed, print to lpr now appears in the print dialog. Without cups or xprint. Just lprng. So as soon as gtk+-2.10 appears in Sid, this problem will be over. You're a bit behind the times, Jan! ;) $ apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0: Installed: 2.12.10-2 Candidate: 2.12.10-2 Version table: *** 2.12.10-2 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhxK1oACgkQS9HxQb37Xmf/ewCfTmsHX0aXBEelHpLCfSlSCRDt LYEAn3+sxKOWCS5CwXMYt/AJMyctX4dp =XfEk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 07/06/08 02:49, Anthony Campbell wrote: 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a worse output. Huh *Using* CUPS is as difficult as rolling off a log. BS! CUPS is one of the most unpredictable and fragile systems I've seen. Why bother when five lines of printcap can replace it, and imagemagick (for one) does that for you?!? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/08 16:19, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 07/06/08 02:49, Anthony Campbell wrote: 4. because, in the light of the above, using it will involve me in a fair amount of work for no clear benefit and possibly a worse output. Huh *Using* CUPS is as difficult as rolling off a log. BS! CUPS is one of the most unpredictable and fragile systems I've seen. Why bother when five lines of printcap can replace it, and imagemagick (for one) does that for you?!? I can not speak to how complicated (or not) that it is to develop CUPS, or for the Debian CUPS Maintainers to package and maintain it. Setting up print queues can be a bit of a hassle if (like me) you don't do it often, but once you get it created, it's done. It took me an evening, 2 years ago, and haven't touched it since then. So, I *can* and *do* unequivocally affirm that *using* CUPS is an simple as rolling off a log. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhxUrAACgkQS9HxQb37Xme5IgCfZHaPQkRsT4Fxox1zaoIEEwjj X9IAn04X7w4HXk35hR5ZJLZ9o3wgAzgE =YbG1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Jul 06 18:19 -0500]: So, I *can* and *do* unequivocally affirm that *using* CUPS is an simple as rolling off a log. I concur. So long as a PPD file is available for a given printer, CUPS has worked like a hose for me. I fought printcaps and filters for years with an old IBM 4039-10R laser that didn't have enough memory for handling PS natively. Installing CUPS and setting it up through its web page interface along with the Gimpprint drivers gave me a print quality I douldn't get before. I'm running Sid and update frequently and so far CUPS has not been fragile through all of those updates. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Jul 06 11:10 -0500]: Where did you read this? I resize pictures, and they don't turn into black rectangles. Unless what I'm thinking of isn't what they are talking about... I wonder if it's the effect I noticed during the first day or so of running IW 3.0 where if the Ctl-+ keystroke was used to zoom text, the entire page was zoomed? I found the solution to be checking View|Zoom|Zoom Text Only and restarting IW so the setting was saved. When images were zoomed they would move to the lower right of the box they were supposed to occupy and the remaining space was black. Enough zooms and the box would be black. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/05/08 02:07, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/03/08 09:12, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time the BBC was working, so I don't know why it was crashing previously - perhaps something had gone wrong with the original download. The printing problem remains. I think it is related to the fact that I don't use CUPS -- see the earlier posts about this. I am only offered the possibility to print to file. Have you tried installing xprint? Yes, I have xprint. The problem is that the option to choose lpr has been removed from iceweasel. I really don't want to move to CUPS just for this. I regard this as a retrograde step on the part of the the Iceweasel developers, resulting in loss of choice. s/iceweasel/firefox But I do see your point. File a bug at Mozilla.com. I'm sure they'll mark it Wont-fix, though... Does this work correctly in FF3? I have that but also CUPS so I can't test it. Hugo I tried Firefox 3 with the same result. I have submitted a bug report but, as you say, it probably won't be fixed. What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhvZlYACgkQS9HxQb37XmdxkACdE6yHxIsAFoUldvtrXF6CyQ3N GgQAn1QZQMV009QYTXkKc8XfVE09GYTW =6HWC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS vs lpd (was Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0)
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/05/08 02:07, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/03/08 09:12, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 03 Jul 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: I just reinstalled version 3.0 and this time the BBC was working, so I don't know why it was crashing previously - perhaps something had gone wrong with the original download. The printing problem remains. I think it is related to the fact that I don't use CUPS -- see the earlier posts about this. I am only offered the possibility to print to file. Have you tried installing xprint? Yes, I have xprint. The problem is that the option to choose lpr has been removed from iceweasel. I really don't want to move to CUPS just for this. I regard this as a retrograde step on the part of the the Iceweasel developers, resulting in loss of choice. s/iceweasel/firefox But I do see your point. File a bug at Mozilla.com. I'm sure they'll mark it Wont-fix, though... Does this work correctly in FF3? I have that but also CUPS so I can't test it. Hugo I tried Firefox 3 with the same result. I have submitted a bug report but, as you say, it probably won't be fixed. What is the reason that you don't install CUPS? And eventually iceweasel 3 will be everywhere. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
