Re: [SAtalk] Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin

2002-01-31 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 07:58, Phillip Deackes wrote:

 Since I use Sylpheed, which stores mail in the mh-style format, is there
 any way to get Exim to file messages in this way? I know procmail can do
 it, but can Exim?

Not directly - Mh format is a real hack (basically because of the
sequences stuff and having no defined locking mechanisms).  When I used
Mh based tools (exmh) I used to have to shell out an mhstore - and even
that needs additional locking round it to prevent trashing of the
sequences files (specifically I had exim-procmail-mhstore).

Now I just directly deliver to Maildir format.

Nigel.

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Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin

2002-01-30 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:35:41 -0500
dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, as for not getting X-Spam-Status, take a (real) message in a file
 (call it msg).  What does :
 
 $ cat msg | spamc -f | grep -i spam
 
 output?  It should outupt the X-Spam headers and the SPAM: report (if
 there was one).

Hi dman.

Last night I received quite a few email messages and a few of them were
SPAM. SA correctly filtered out the SPAM messages,  and put them is the
desired file.

Since I use Sylpheed, which stores mail in the mh-style format, is there
any way to get Exim to file messages in this way? I know procmail can do
it, but can Exim?

Cheers.

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Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin

2002-01-29 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 23:52:11 -0500
dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
  
   have just whipped up some documentation regarding setting up exim
 and spamassassin.  Basically I just outlined my setup, which Works For
 Me :-).

Thanks dman. I have set it all up as you outlined, and each email now has
the line 'Received: from mail by scgf.gmx.co.uk with spam-scanned (Exim
3.33 #1 (Debian))' in the headers.

I never get an 'X-Spam-Status:' header, though. I did exactly what you
said, and added the filter lines to my .forward file. I commented out
procmail, so am not using it at all at the moment. all the mail is coming
through, but nothing is being blocked. Do I still need procmail to be
running, ie. is your configuration *on top of* the basic SA setup, or
instead of?

I am using the latest Debian package of Spamassassin, 2.01-1. It looks
like the conf file in /etc/spamassassin is empty - should there be
anything there? Should I revert back to an older version of SA?

Many thanks for your help.


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Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin

2002-01-29 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 07:58:18AM +, Phillip Deackes wrote:
| On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 23:52:11 -0500
| dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
|   
|have just whipped up some documentation regarding setting up exim
|  and spamassassin.  Basically I just outlined my setup, which Works For
|  Me :-).
| 
| Thanks dman.

You're welcome.

| I have set it all up as you outlined, and each email now has
| the line 'Received: from mail by scgf.gmx.co.uk with spam-scanned (Exim
| 3.33 #1 (Debian))' in the headers.

Yep.  This tells you that the message came to exim from a pipe
(created by user 'mail') and $received_protocol was set to
'spam-scanned'.

| I never get an 'X-Spam-Status:' header, though.

Mmm, you should.

| I did exactly what you said, and added the filter lines to my
| .forward file. I commented out procmail, so am not using it at all
| at the moment. all the mail is coming through, but nothing is being
| blocked. Do I still need procmail to be running, ie. is your
| configuration *on top of* the basic SA setup, or instead of?

Instead of, I think.  I don't use procmail at all and IIRC the basic
configuration is to use a filter recipe in procmail.

| I am using the latest Debian package of Spamassassin, 2.01-1. It looks
| like the conf file in /etc/spamassassin is empty - should there be
| anything there? Should I revert back to an older version of SA?

I downloaded, but didn't install yet, the 2.01 package.  I know the
SA config files changed quite a bit so I'm waiting until I have time
to work on it before I do the install (last night I had to work on my
car instead).  Since I didn't mention any part of the SA config files
in my document I don't think the version is really relevant; but I
think some of the command line options to spamc/spamd may have
changed.
 
| Many thanks for your help.

Ok, as for not getting X-Spam-Status, take a (real) message in a file
(call it msg).  What does :

$ cat msg | spamc -f | grep -i spam

output?  It should outupt the X-Spam headers and the SPAM: report (if
there was one).

-D

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Re: [SAtalk] Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin

2002-01-29 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:35:41 -0500
dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, as for not getting X-Spam-Status, take a (real) message in a file
 (call it msg).  What does :
 
 $ cat msg | spamc -f | grep -i spam
 
 output?  It should outupt the X-Spam headers and the SPAM: report (if
 there was one).

No - it did not appear to do anything at all. I downloaded the older
version of SA (1.5-5) and installed it. Now when I do the above I get the
X-Spam headers and SPAM report.

I will await some SPAM to se whether it all works correctly.

Thanks again.

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Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin

2002-01-27 Thread Wayne Topa
dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 
 I have just whipped up some documentation regarding setting up exim
 and spamassassin.  Basically I just outlined my setup, which Works For
 Me :-).
 
 Check it out if you are interested,
 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim_spamassassin.html
 and let me know what you think (if you want to).

Tried to read it dman, can connect but never get a reply.  Might be
because you firewalled me.  :-(

Wayne
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Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin

2002-01-26 Thread Alan Chandler
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On Saturday 26 January 2002 9:53 pm, dman wrote:
 I have just whipped up some documentation regarding setting up exim
 and spamassassin.  Basically I just outlined my setup, which Works For
 Me :-).

 Check it out if you are interested,
 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim_spamassassin.html
 and let me know what you think (if you want to).

Couple of things which I do slightly differently (and I think better :-)

1) Put the director that sends mail with the real- prefix before the spam 
check director - this allows false positives to reply to you if they wish, 
and therefore ...

2) .. my filter file bounces back a message thusly
== exim filter
# Exim Filter

if first_delivery and
   $h_X-Spam-Flag: contains YES
then
   logfile /var/log/exim/spamlog
   logwrite $tod_log From: $h_From: Subject: $h_Subject: \n
\t X-Spam-Status: $h_X-Spam-Status: Sender: $sender_address
   if $h_From: is not 
   then
  mail to $h_From: subject Re: Your last message to me
   expand file /etc/exim/spam-reply.txt
   once /var/log/exim/spamcount
   once_repeat 5d
   endif
   seen finish
endif
== spam-reply.txt
Your mail with Subject: $h_Subject:
to domain chandlerfamily.org.uk appears to be unsolicited spam.

If you intended to contact a person at that email domain for
legitimate reasons then our apologies. Please would you resend to the
same address but add the prefix real- (without the quotes) to the
e-mail address and it will bypass the spam filter.

Thank you

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Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin

2002-01-26 Thread dman
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 12:55:01AM +, Alan Chandler wrote:
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| 
| On Saturday 26 January 2002 9:53 pm, dman wrote:
|  I have just whipped up some documentation regarding setting up exim
|  and spamassassin.  Basically I just outlined my setup, which Works For
|  Me :-).
| 
|  Check it out if you are interested,
|  http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim_spamassassin.html
|  and let me know what you think (if you want to).
| 
| Couple of things which I do slightly differently (and I think better :-)

I've now added your comments (no attribution in case you don't want
your address there for some reason) to the page.

If I feel comforable enough automating response to tagged messages,
I'll try out your suggestions.  :-)

-D

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RE: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin

2002-01-26 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/1:~]$ host -t a dman.ddts.net
dman.ddts.net   A   169.254.0.0

j.

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Subject: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin



I have just whipped up some documentation regarding setting up exim
and spamassassin.  Basically I just outlined my setup, which Works For
Me :-).

Check it out if you are interested,
http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim_spamassassin.html
and let me know what you think (if you want to).

HAND,
-D

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