Re: Best way for Red Hat guy to learn Debian?
On 04/26/2015 10:30 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: Does anyone know of any good resources (books, web sites, etc.) to help an experienced Red Hat guy make the transition? This really depends on the complexity of your setup. Network is configured from different files, for example. Apache has different default configuration tree,... Please telle us more about your setup so taht one can poit out specific things. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553dda06.5010...@rktmb.org
Re: Best way for Red Hat guy to learn Debian?
Oh, also, you may some some habits that you can dispense with, such as looking around the internet for your software instead of your distribution. Debian has everything, pretty much, try the Debian repos first. And don't willy-nilly add repos to Debian without knowing what you're doing ... there are official backports and those are fine, but generally if you really need something newer than stable has, you can add the source repos from unstable, get the source debs and it's dependencies, then re-locate (so they can't disturb anything else and won't trigger removing the current versions) and recompile them. This gets a little unworkable with apps that have huge and non-trivial dependencies (e.g., whole desktop environments, some desktop apps), but generally works. These things can be accomplished in a few commands with a little upfront work. Debian's package source building utilities go far beyond what yum does. Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Tim Kelley tim.kelley.n...@gmail.com wrote: Do read throught the Debian Aministrator's guide and for quick question irc freenode #debian is a big help Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:41 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org wrote: On 04/26/2015 10:30 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: Does anyone know of any good resources (books, web sites, etc.) to help an experienced Red Hat guy make the transition? This really depends on the complexity of your setup. Network is configured from different files, for example. Apache has different default configuration tree,... Please telle us more about your setup so taht one can poit out specific things. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553dda06.5010...@rktmb.org
Re: Best way for Red Hat guy to learn Debian?
Do read throught the Debian Aministrator's guide and for quick question irc freenode #debian is a big help Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:41 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org wrote: On 04/26/2015 10:30 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: Does anyone know of any good resources (books, web sites, etc.) to help an experienced Red Hat guy make the transition? This really depends on the complexity of your setup. Network is configured from different files, for example. Apache has different default configuration tree,... Please telle us more about your setup so taht one can poit out specific things. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553dda06.5010...@rktmb.org
Re: Best way for Red Hat guy to learn Debian?
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 02:30:19PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: I'm a longtime user of Red Hat-style distributions (RHL, RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, etc.). My home router/firewall is a 32-bit VIA C7 system that is currently running CentOS 6. I really want to move this to a more modern stable distribution, but Red Hat has abandoned 32-bit platforms with RHEL 7. Thus, I'm considering moving this system to Debian Jessie. Does anyone know of any good resources (books, web sites, etc.) to help an experienced Red Hat guy make the transition? I'm really looking for something that highlights the differences from a sysadmin's point of view. Unfortunately, I don't think I have the patience for any sort of intro to Linux. ;-) You may find this helpful: http://debian-handbook.info/ -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150427124921.GN20170@tal
Re: Best way for Red Hat guy to learn Debian?
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 09:04:21PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 26 April 2015 20:46:22 Ric Moore wrote: On 04/26/2015 03:30 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: I'm a longtime user of Red Hat-style distributions (RHL, RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, etc.). My home router/firewall is a 32-bit VIA C7 system that is currently running CentOS 6. I really want to move this to a more modern stable distribution, but Red Hat has abandoned 32-bit platforms with RHEL 7. Thus, I'm considering moving this system to Debian Jessie. Does anyone know of any good resources (books, web sites, etc.) to help an experienced Red Hat guy make the transition? I'm really looking for something that highlights the differences from a sysadmin's point of view. Unfortunately, I don't think I have the patience for any sort of intro to Linux. ;-) You shouldn't find a huge difference at all. You can use apt-get sorta like you used yum. I think, if you are running headless, that would need to familiarize yourself with it. I think you will come to appreciate apt-get after using yum for years, as I did in 2006. Other than that, I cannot think of a major difference, other than if you install Jessie, you will get systemd. Wheezy doesn't have it, unless you install it. Welcome, from an RPM expat. :) Ric Speaking as a Debianist who has occasionally used RH-style distributions: The files are in different places. The run levels are different: well, 0,1 and 6 are the same, but the others are used differently. I can't get used to update (YUM) meaning upgrade (aptitude etc.). Welcome to the bright side. ;-) Lisi I was also an RH/Fedora/CentOS guy until about 2006, when I came to my senses (got tired of yum breaking stuff). Actually, I switched from Fedora to Debian desktop, and still had CentOS on my servers until about 2010 (dunno why, have no excuse, just I was using GoDaddy and that's what they had. Now I use Contabo.com and just rent a VPS, much better). It won't take too much to acclimate yourself, either. Just look around the file system and familiarize yourself with the different arrangement, learn to use aptitude, and you'll eventually be right at home. I'm sure you'll appreciate the much greater number of pkgs available without having to add 3rd party repos, the stability, etc. I think you'll eventually see the truth: that the Debian Way IS the Right Way! I'm still using Wheezy so can't comment on systemd, yet. Welcome to the Mother Ship! ./taz -- https://red.liberame.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150426204901.ga11...@myownsite.me
Re: Best way for Red Hat guy to learn Debian?
On Sunday 26 April 2015 20:46:22 Ric Moore wrote: On 04/26/2015 03:30 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: I'm a longtime user of Red Hat-style distributions (RHL, RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, etc.). My home router/firewall is a 32-bit VIA C7 system that is currently running CentOS 6. I really want to move this to a more modern stable distribution, but Red Hat has abandoned 32-bit platforms with RHEL 7. Thus, I'm considering moving this system to Debian Jessie. Does anyone know of any good resources (books, web sites, etc.) to help an experienced Red Hat guy make the transition? I'm really looking for something that highlights the differences from a sysadmin's point of view. Unfortunately, I don't think I have the patience for any sort of intro to Linux. ;-) You shouldn't find a huge difference at all. You can use apt-get sorta like you used yum. I think, if you are running headless, that would need to familiarize yourself with it. I think you will come to appreciate apt-get after using yum for years, as I did in 2006. Other than that, I cannot think of a major difference, other than if you install Jessie, you will get systemd. Wheezy doesn't have it, unless you install it. Welcome, from an RPM expat. :) Ric Speaking as a Debianist who has occasionally used RH-style distributions: The files are in different places. The run levels are different: well, 0,1 and 6 are the same, but the others are used differently. I can't get used to update (YUM) meaning upgrade (aptitude etc.). Welcome to the bright side. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504262104.21412.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Best way for Red Hat guy to learn Debian?
On 04/26/2015 03:30 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: I'm a longtime user of Red Hat-style distributions (RHL, RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, etc.). My home router/firewall is a 32-bit VIA C7 system that is currently running CentOS 6. I really want to move this to a more modern stable distribution, but Red Hat has abandoned 32-bit platforms with RHEL 7. Thus, I'm considering moving this system to Debian Jessie. Does anyone know of any good resources (books, web sites, etc.) to help an experienced Red Hat guy make the transition? I'm really looking for something that highlights the differences from a sysadmin's point of view. Unfortunately, I don't think I have the patience for any sort of intro to Linux. ;-) You shouldn't find a huge difference at all. You can use apt-get sorta like you used yum. I think, if you are running headless, that would need to familiarize yourself with it. I think you will come to appreciate apt-get after using yum for years, as I did in 2006. Other than that, I cannot think of a major difference, other than if you install Jessie, you will get systemd. Wheezy doesn't have it, unless you install it. Welcome, from an RPM expat. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553d408e.3010...@gmail.com
