Re: java browser plugin on buster

[Richard Hector]

On 20/06/19 6:18 AM, basti wrote:
> Hello, i have an old Server with HP ILO2. The remote console on this
> version of ilo need an java browser Plugin (not webstart).
> 
> in stretch there was no problem i have used an old firefox 36 or so in
> "portable" mode.
> 
> now the icedtea plugin seem not available anymore.
> does someone konw how to get it working?
> 

Can't you get simpler access via ssh or similar? At least to a virtual
serial console, if not full remote control?

Richard




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Re: java browser plugin on buster

[Ulf Volmer]

On 19.06.19 20:18, basti wrote:
> Hello, i have an old Server with HP ILO2. The remote console on this
> version of ilo need an java browser Plugin (not webstart).
> 
> in stretch there was no problem i have used an old firefox 36 or so in
> "portable" mode.
> 
> now the icedtea plugin seem not available anymore.
> does someone konw how to get it working?

Java Plugin is dead. Really dead. I recommend to download an old firefox
version in combination with an old Java JRE an use this combination
*only' for your ILO. This is how we deal with ILO2 at work. Newer ILO
version offers HTML5 support, but we have also older versions at the moment.

Best regards
Ulf

Re: java, javac versions not the same, apt-get doesn't help ...

[Albretch Mueller]

On 1/12/18, Bastien Durel  wrote:
> Le vendredi 12 janvier 2018 à 04:20 -0500, Albretch Mueller a écrit :
>> java gives you error messages when you compile and run code with
>> different versions of the JVM
>>
>> while trying to update my box using apt-get I am getting:
>> "openjdk-8-jdk is already the newest version."
>>
>> How do you make sure you install the same version of both java and
>> javac using apt-get?
>>
>> lbrtchx
>> ~
>> $ uname -a
>> Linux IBMThnkPdT60 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u1
>> (2016-09-03) i686 GNU/Linux
>>
>> $ java -version
>> openjdk version "1.8.0_131"
>> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_131-8u131-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
>> OpenJDK Server VM (build 25.131-b11, mixed mode)
>>
>> $ javac -version
>> javac 1.7.0_111
>>
>>
>> # _LOG_FL="openjdk-8-jdk_install_$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S).log"
>>
>> # uname -a >> "${_LOG_FL}" 2>&1
>>
>> # time(apt-get -V install openjdk-8-jdk) >> "${_LOG_FL}" 2>&1
>>
>> # cat openjdk-8-jdk_install_20180112040601.log
>> Linux IBMThnkPdT60 3.16.0-4-686-pae
>> #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u1 (2016-09-03) i686 GNU/Linux
>>
>> Reading package lists...
>> Building dependency tree...
>> Reading state information...
>> openjdk-8-jdk is already the newest version.
>> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 365 not upgraded.
>>
>> real0m3.571s
>> user0m0.672s
>> sys 0m0.092s
>>
>> # java -version
>> openjdk version "1.8.0_131"
>> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_131-8u131-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
>> OpenJDK Server VM (build 25.131-b11, mixed mode)
>>
>> # javac -version
>> javac 1.7.0_111
>>
> You d'like to look at your alternatives
>
> $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/java*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 juil.  2  2017 /etc/alternatives/java ->
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 juil.  2  2017 /etc/alternatives/java.1.gz ->
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 déc.  14  2010 /etc/alternatives/java_vm ->
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java_vm
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 déc.  14  2010 /etc/alternatives/javaws ->
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/javaws
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 déc.  14  2010 /etc/alternatives/javaws.1.gz
> -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/man/man1/javaws.1.gz
>
> On this box, java and javaws use different java versions
> You can set them using update-alternatives(1) -- or update-java-
> alternatives(8) for java

 Well, yes, but, based on my poor understanding of such matters, how
can you change the alternatives if apt-get doesn't install more
updated versions? I think you should be able to specify to the
differencet utilities in the jdk. This is what I got in my env:

$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/java*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 Dec 17 18:16 /etc/alternatives/java ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 55 Dec 17 18:16 /etc/alternatives/java.1.gz ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-i386/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Nov 11 22:14 /etc/alternatives/javac ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/javac
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 Nov 11 22:14 /etc/alternatives/javac.1.gz ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/man/man1/javac.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 Nov 11 22:14 /etc/alternatives/javadoc ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/javadoc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 54 Nov 11 22:14 /etc/alternatives/javadoc.1.gz
-> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/man/man1/javadoc.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Nov 11 22:14 /etc/alternatives/javah ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/javah
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 Nov 11 22:14 /etc/alternatives/javah.1.gz ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/man/man1/javah.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 Nov 11 22:14 /etc/alternatives/javap ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/javap
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 Nov 11 22:14 /etc/alternatives/javap.1.gz ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/man/man1/javap.1.gz
$

# update-alternatives --config java
There are 2 choices for the alternative java (providing /usr/bin/java).

  SelectionPath   Priority   Status

  0/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java   1071
  auto mode
  1/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java   1071
  manual mode
* 2/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java   1069
  manual mode

Press enter to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number:

# update-alternatives --config javac
There are 2 choices for the alternative javac (providing /usr/bin/javac).

  SelectionPathPriority   Status

* 0/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/javac   1071  auto mode
  1/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/javac   1071
manual mode
  2/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-i386/bin/javac   1069
manual mode

Press enter to keep the 

Re: java, javac versions not the same, apt-get doesn't help ...

[Bastien Durel]

Le vendredi 12 janvier 2018 à 04:20 -0500, Albretch Mueller a écrit :
> java gives you error messages when you compile and run code with
> different versions of the JVM
> 
> while trying to update my box using apt-get I am getting:
> "openjdk-8-jdk is already the newest version."
> 
> How do you make sure you install the same version of both java and
> javac using apt-get?
> 
> lbrtchx
> ~
> $ uname -a
> Linux IBMThnkPdT60 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u1
> (2016-09-03) i686 GNU/Linux
> 
> $ java -version
> openjdk version "1.8.0_131"
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_131-8u131-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
> OpenJDK Server VM (build 25.131-b11, mixed mode)
> 
> $ javac -version
> javac 1.7.0_111
> 
> 
> # _LOG_FL="openjdk-8-jdk_install_$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S).log"
> 
> # uname -a >> "${_LOG_FL}" 2>&1
> 
> # time(apt-get -V install openjdk-8-jdk) >> "${_LOG_FL}" 2>&1
> 
> # cat openjdk-8-jdk_install_20180112040601.log
> Linux IBMThnkPdT60 3.16.0-4-686-pae
> #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u1 (2016-09-03) i686 GNU/Linux
> 
> Reading package lists...
> Building dependency tree...
> Reading state information...
> openjdk-8-jdk is already the newest version.
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 365 not upgraded.
> 
> real0m3.571s
> user0m0.672s
> sys 0m0.092s
> 
> # java -version
> openjdk version "1.8.0_131"
> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_131-8u131-b11-1~bpo8+1-b11)
> OpenJDK Server VM (build 25.131-b11, mixed mode)
> 
> # javac -version
> javac 1.7.0_111
> 
You d'like to look at your alternatives

$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/java*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 juil.  2  2017 /etc/alternatives/java ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 juil.  2  2017 /etc/alternatives/java.1.gz ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 déc.  14  2010 /etc/alternatives/java_vm ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java_vm
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 déc.  14  2010 /etc/alternatives/javaws ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/javaws
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 déc.  14  2010 /etc/alternatives/javaws.1.gz
-> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/man/man1/javaws.1.gz

On this box, java and javaws use different java versions
You can set them using update-alternatives(1) -- or update-java-
alternatives(8) for java

-- 
Bastien

Re: Java perspective missing in Eclipse 3.8.1-10

[rudu]

Le 05/08/2017 à 13:57, Joey Corleone a écrit :

The Eclipse Debian package is outdated and not maintained currently [0].
I recommend downloading the most recent version of Eclipse directly from
their website [1]. The installation is trivial and works out of the box.

[0] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681726
[1] https://www.eclipse.org/


Thank you Joey.
That's what I finally inferred.
Preferring to stick with debian packages, I'm in the process of 
transferring my code to the netbeans IDE.

Seems to be the best way to keep my development safe in the future.

Regards
Rudu

Re: Java perspective missing in Eclipse 3.8.1-10

[Joey Corleone]

The Eclipse Debian package is outdated and not maintained currently [0].
I recommend downloading the most recent version of Eclipse directly from
their website [1]. The installation is trivial and works out of the box.

[0] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681726
[1] https://www.eclipse.org/

On 08/03/2017 07:04 PM, rudu wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> It was almost a year ago when I last used Eclipse to work on some Java
> projects and everything was going fine.
> Today, it freezed on its splash screen on every launch.
> I first removed ~/.eclipse to no avail.
> When I removed path/to/my/workspace/.metadata Eclipse did open a fresh
> window where I should have been able to re-create my Java project ...
> unless there was no way to initiate Java projects anymore.
> I purge eclipse and its dependencies :
> # apt-get autoremove eclipse* --purge
> 
> Then did a fresh install :
> $ dpkg -l eclipse* | grep ^ii
> ii  eclipse 3.8.1-10 all  Extensible Tool
> Platform and Java IDE
> ii  eclipse-jdt 3.8.1-10 all  Eclipse Java
> Development Tools (JDT)
> ii  eclipse-pde 3.8.1-10 amd64Eclipse Plug-in
> Development Environment (PDE)
> ii  eclipse-platform3.8.1-10 amd64Eclipse platform
> without development plug-ins
> ii  eclipse-platform-data   3.8.1-10 all  Eclipse platform
> without development plug-ins (data)
> ii  eclipse-rcp 3.8.1-10 amd64Eclipse Rich
> Client Platform (RCP)
> 
> Still, there is no way to generate a java project.
> Did I overlooked anything ?
> 
> I'am running debian testing.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any hint.
> 
> Rudu
> 

Re: Java, abogados, lexnet

[laura]

Pardon moi,  je me suis trompée quand j'ai envoyé le mail.
Salut!

à tôt!

:P

2017-06-09 12:24 GMT+02:00 Pierre L. :

> Hey,
>
> Sorry about that, I think not a lot of people will answer to you here,
> it's usually a french speaking mailing list ;)
> debian-user-*french*@lists.debian.org
>
> May you will be able to find your langage here
> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe
>
> Good luck.

Re: Java, abogados, lexnet

[Pierre L.]

Hey,

Sorry about that, I think not a lot of people will answer to you here,
it's usually a french speaking mailing list ;)
debian-user-*french*@lists.debian.org

May you will be able to find your langage here
https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe

Good luck.


Le 08/06/2017 à 11:41, laura a écrit :
> Hola!
>
> No sé si os habréis encontrado con el caso de llevar algún despacho de
> abogados últimamente, pero tengo un problema que ahora os explico.
> Tengo que configurar un portátil de 64bits , con Windows 10 y Linux en
> otra partición, para que su usuaria pueda conectarse a la red del
> gobierno-justicia llamada lexnet. Pero los navegadores actuales no me
> permiten instalar Java para poder utilizar la red. Desde la ayuda que
> da el ministerio me dijeron que instalara los navegadores de 32bits,
> pero después de hacerlo vi que éstos tampoco permitían el uso del Java. 
> La única opción que hay es usar el internet Explorer que de casualidad
> aún mantiene Windows 10, pero eso no me parece ninguna solución
> viable, ya que ni siquiera Windows está por la labor de mantener el
> soporte para Java. Probé a poner una máquina virtual con un Windows 7,
> pero la usuaria no sé si se podría acostumbrar a esa forma de trabajar. 
>
> En fin, si os halláis en un situación similar o la habéis resuelto ya,
> contadme vuestra experiencia, gracias!
>
> Laura
>
>
> -- 
> ---
> http://laupri.com
> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>




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Re: java pour navigateur Internet

[Jean Bernon]

Sauf erreur la version n'est pas indifférente. On peut bien sûr installer 
icedtea-plugin sur la version stable, mais le résultat (chez moi en tout cas) 
est une version 7 du plugin qui doit être activé site par site parce que 
"vulnérable et doit être mis à jour". 

- Mail original -

> De: "Grégory Reinbold" <greg...@nosheep.fr>
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 6 Septembre 2016 15:20:49
> Objet: Re: java pour navigateur Internet

> Hello,
> J'ai répondu à la question initiale : Quel paquet faut-il installer
> pour qu'un site internet utilisant java puisse fonctionner?
> Et la solution
> apt-get install icedtea-plugin
> répond au besoin quelque soit la version.

> Je ne savais pas qu'il était demandé le paquet java complet.
> Toutes mes excuses

> Le 06/09/2016 à 15:07, Arnaud Vandyck a écrit :

> > Bonjour,
> 

> > J'ai répondu avec de la documentation mais je ne suis pas certain
> > qu'elle soit à jour.
> 

> > J'ai répondu aussi avec le paquet que j'utilise, mais je suis en
> > testing.
> 

> > Bonne journée/soirée ;-)
> 

> > Le 6 septembre 2016 à 10:33, Jean Bernon < jber...@free.fr > a
> > écrit
> > :
> 

> > > Bonjour,
> > 
> 

> > > Il me semble qu'icedtea-plugin n'installe pas automatiquement
> > > icedtea-8. J'utilise une version Jessie stable + backports, j'ai
> > > installé icedtea-plugin et mon plugin reste à la version 7. Il
> > > semble qu'il faille installer icedtea-8 depuis sid. La page wiki
> > > est
> > > ambiguë sur ce point - "Available on stretch and jessie-backports
> > > (no plugin on jessie-backports)".
> > 
> 

> > > Jean
> > 
> 

> > > > De: "Grégory Reinbold" < greg...@nosheep.fr >
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > Envoyé: Lundi 5 Septembre 2016 14:54:03
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > Objet: Re: java pour navigateur Internet
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > Salut,
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > apt-get install icedtea-plugin
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > Le 05/09/2016 à 13:58, Arnaud Vandyck a écrit :
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > Le 8 août 2016 à 16:36, Alex PADOLY <
> > > > > apado...@padoly.besaba.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > a
> > > > > écrit :
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > > Bonsoir à tous,
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > > Bonjour,
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > > > Quel paquet faut-il installer pour qu'un site internet
> > > > > > utilisant
> > > > > > java
> > > > > > puisse fonctionner?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > > Un peu de lecture: https://wiki.debian.org/Java
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > C'est le paquet icedtea-8-plugin
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > Je me demande si je n'ai pas installé "icedtea-8-plugin:i386"
> > > > > (même
> > > > > si je suis sur un 64 bits)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > Bonne journée/soirée,
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > --
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > Arnaud Vandyck
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > > http://about.me/avdyk
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > --
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > Grégory Reinbold
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > --
> 

> > Arnaud Vandyck
> 
> > http://about.me/avdyk
> 
> --
> Grégory Reinbold

Re: java pour navigateur Internet

[Grégory Reinbold]

Hello,

J'ai répondu à la question initiale : Quel paquet faut-il installer pour 
qu'un site internet utilisant java puisse fonctionner?


Et la solution

apt-get install icedtea-plugin

répond au besoin quelque soit la version.

Je ne savais pas qu'il était demandé le paquet java complet.

Toutes mes excuses

Le 06/09/2016 à 15:07, Arnaud Vandyck a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'ai répondu avec de la documentation mais je ne suis pas certain 
qu'elle soit à jour.


J'ai répondu aussi avec le paquet que j'utilise, mais je suis en testing.

Bonne journée/soirée ;-)

Le 6 septembre 2016 à 10:33, Jean Bernon <jber...@free.fr 
<mailto:jber...@free.fr>> a écrit :


Bonjour,

Il me semble qu'icedtea-plugin n'installe pas automatiquement
icedtea-8. J'utilise une version Jessie stable + backports, j'ai
installé icedtea-plugin et mon plugin reste à la version 7. Il
semble qu'il faille installer icedtea-8 depuis sid. La page wiki
est ambiguë sur ce point - "Available on stretch and
jessie-backports (no plugin on jessie-backports)".

Jean



*De: *"Grégory Reinbold" <greg...@nosheep.fr
<mailto:greg...@nosheep.fr>>
*À: *debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
<mailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org>
*Envoyé: *Lundi 5 Septembre 2016 14:54:03
*Objet: *Re: java pour navigateur Internet

Salut,

apt-get install icedtea-plugin


Le 05/09/2016 à 13:58, Arnaud Vandyck a écrit :

Le 8 août 2016 à 16:36, Alex PADOLY
<apado...@padoly.besaba.com
<mailto:apado...@padoly.besaba.com>> a écrit :

Bonsoir à tous,


Bonjour,

Quel paquet faut-il installer pour qu'un site internet
utilisant java puisse fonctionner?

Un peu de lecture: https://wiki.debian.org/Java

C'est le paquet icedtea-8-plugin

Je me demande si je n'ai pas installé
"icedtea-8-plugin:i386" (même si je suis sur un 64 bits)

Bonne journée/soirée,

-- 
Arnaud Vandyck

http://about.me/avdyk


-- 
Grégory Reinbold






--
Arnaud Vandyck
http://about.me/avdyk


--
Grégory Reinbold

Re: java pour navigateur Internet

[Arnaud Vandyck]

Bonjour,

J'ai répondu avec de la documentation mais je ne suis pas certain qu'elle
soit à jour.

J'ai répondu aussi avec le paquet que j'utilise, mais je suis en testing.

Bonne journée/soirée ;-)

Le 6 septembre 2016 à 10:33, Jean Bernon <jber...@free.fr> a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> Il me semble qu'icedtea-plugin n'installe pas automatiquement icedtea-8.
> J'utilise une version Jessie stable + backports, j'ai installé
> icedtea-plugin et mon plugin reste à la version 7. Il semble qu'il faille
> installer icedtea-8 depuis sid. La page wiki est ambiguë sur ce point -
> "Available on stretch and jessie-backports (no plugin on jessie-backports)".
>
> Jean
>
> --
>
> *De: *"Grégory Reinbold" <greg...@nosheep.fr>
> *À: *debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> *Envoyé: *Lundi 5 Septembre 2016 14:54:03
> *Objet: *Re: java pour navigateur Internet
>
> Salut,
>
> apt-get install icedtea-plugin
>
>
> Le 05/09/2016 à 13:58, Arnaud Vandyck a écrit :
>
> Le 8 août 2016 à 16:36, Alex PADOLY <apado...@padoly.besaba.com> a écrit :
>
>> Bonsoir à tous,
>>
>
> Bonjour,
>
>> Quel paquet faut-il installer pour qu'un site internet utilisant java
>> puisse fonctionner?
>>
> Un peu de lecture: https://wiki.debian.org/Java
>
> C'est le paquet icedtea-8-plugin
>
> Je me demande si je n'ai pas installé "icedtea-8-plugin:i386" (même si je
> suis sur un 64 bits)
>
> Bonne journée/soirée,
>
> --
> Arnaud Vandyck
> http://about.me/avdyk
>
>
> --
> Grégory Reinbold
>
>
>


-- 
Arnaud Vandyck
http://about.me/avdyk

Re: java pour navigateur Internet

[Jean Bernon]

Bonjour, 

Il me semble qu'icedtea-plugin n'installe pas automatiquement icedtea-8. 
J'utilise une version Jessie stable + backports, j'ai installé icedtea-plugin 
et mon plugin reste à la version 7. Il semble qu'il faille installer icedtea-8 
depuis sid. La page wiki est ambiguë sur ce point - "Available on stretch and 
jessie-backports (no plugin on jessie-backports)". 

Jean 

- Mail original -

> De: "Grégory Reinbold" <greg...@nosheep.fr>
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Lundi 5 Septembre 2016 14:54:03
> Objet: Re: java pour navigateur Internet

> Salut,
> apt-get install icedtea-plugin

> Le 05/09/2016 à 13:58, Arnaud Vandyck a écrit :

> > Le 8 août 2016 à 16:36, Alex PADOLY < apado...@padoly.besaba.com >
> > a
> > écrit :
> 

> > > Bonsoir à tous,
> > 
> 
> > Bonjour,
> 
> > > Quel paquet faut-il installer pour qu'un site internet utilisant
> > > java
> > > puisse fonctionner?
> > 
> 
> > Un peu de lecture: https://wiki.debian.org/Java
> 

> > C'est le paquet icedtea-8-plugin
> 

> > Je me demande si je n'ai pas installé "icedtea-8-plugin:i386" (même
> > si je suis sur un 64 bits)
> 

> > Bonne journée/soirée,
> 

> > --
> 

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> 
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> 
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Re: java pour navigateur Internet

[Grégory Reinbold]

Salut,

apt-get install icedtea-plugin


Le 05/09/2016 à 13:58, Arnaud Vandyck a écrit :
Le 8 août 2016 à 16:36, Alex PADOLY > a écrit :


Bonsoir à tous,


Bonjour,

Quel paquet faut-il installer pour qu'un site internet utilisant
java puisse fonctionner?

Un peu de lecture: https://wiki.debian.org/Java

C'est le paquet icedtea-8-plugin

Je me demande si je n'ai pas installé "icedtea-8-plugin:i386" (même si 
je suis sur un 64 bits)


Bonne journée/soirée,

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Re: java pour navigateur Internet

[Arnaud Vandyck]

Le 8 août 2016 à 16:36, Alex PADOLY  a écrit :

> Bonsoir à tous,
>

Bonjour,

> Quel paquet faut-il installer pour qu'un site internet utilisant java
> puisse fonctionner?
>
Un peu de lecture: https://wiki.debian.org/Java

C'est le paquet icedtea-8-plugin

Je me demande si je n'ai pas installé "icedtea-8-plugin:i386" (même si je
suis sur un 64 bits)

Bonne journée/soirée,

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Re: java pour navigateur Internet

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Mon, 08 Aug 2016 14:36:22 +,
Alex PADOLY  a écrit :

>  
> 
> Bonsoir à tous, 
> 
> Quel paquet faut-il installer pour qu'un site
> internet utilisant java puisse fonctionner? 
> 
> Merci pour vos réponses.
> 
> 
> Alex PADOLY 
>  

bonjour,

pour obtenir java en greffon dans son butineur, il faut installer :

- icedtea-plugin
- default-java-plugin


il existe un autre paquet qui est sur le dépot testing :
icedtea-8-plugin

slt
bernard

Re: Java (aka icedtea) plugin for iceweasel, settings

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2015-11-25, Ian Zimmerman  wrote:
> I can pass options to java programs by setting the environment variable
> JAVA_ARGS.  This works by ultimately passing the contents of the
> variable on the command line to the java runtime binary, such as
> /usr/bin/java; well behaved packages do this themselves by using the
> shell functions in java-wrappers.
>
> This is all great, but what about the java web applets, run by the
> browser plugin (in my case, the icedtea-6-plugin for iceweasel)?  As far
> as I know this doesn't use the runtime binary, and even if it did it
> wouldn't know to apply the extra options from JAVA_ARGS.  So can I
> control the java runtime options for applets in any way?  Googling for
> the relevant terms tends to bring up something called Java Control
> Panel, with instructions where to find such a thing on Windoze and Mac.
> But nothing about Debian, and indeed a search on packages.debian.org for
> a package file "ControlPanel" shows nothing promising.
>
> Right now my JAVA_ARGS is as follows but I expect it to grow.
>
> JAVA_ARGS="-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on -Dswing.aatext=true"

The equivalent of ControlPanel in Debian is the binary itweb-settings,
which is provided by the package icedtea-netx (I know --- not exactly
intuitive). If you click on 'JVM Settings' you can set the arguments
there.

By the way, does Java 6 still receive security support? I thought it
had been discontinued.

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Re: java script error in iceweasel

[Francesco Ariis]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 06:47:03AM -0500, Harold M. Meneley wrote:
 Hi, I just tried using Jessie with the new Iceweasel. I went to several
 web sites that worked before and I can't seem to get the java scripts
 associated with buttons to work. I tried installing java, openjdk and
 icedtea with no results. Can't supply anymore information other than
 clean install of Jessie with no saved or restored data used. Went back
 to Wheezy and everything works.
 
 Is there a bug or am I missing something??
 I would like to use Jessie, but can't lose the web access.
 
 Thanks
 Harold Meneley

Java or javascript? Can you give us an example of a problematic site?

Re: Java 8

[Jan-Rens Reitsma]

On 11/25/2014 09:40 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

Op 25-11-14 om 08:42 schreef Jan-Rens Reitsma:


Misschien moeten er nog links of PATH-variabelen in
configuratiebestanden naar de java-1.7.0 binary aangepast worden.

Volg dus eerst de links door te beginnen met:

$ ls -l /usr/bin | grep java

etc ... tot je de link naar de java 1.6.0- of 1.7.0-versie gevonden hebt.


Daarvoor is juist het update-alternatived mechanisme:
update-alternatives --config java

Daar kun je kiezen welke java je wilt, en wordt alles goed gezet.
Zie ook man update-alternatives.


Handig, ik zie het. Ik begrijp dat update-alternatives de configuratie 
van de jvm onder bash aanpast.


Tot op heden runde ik java-bytecode meestal in een IDE, onder Apache of 
in de applet-viewer van een browser en niet rechtstreeks vanaf de 
commandline. De configuratie van jvm's onder verschillende applicaties 
moet volgens mij meestal apart aangepast worden.




Om te kijken welke alternatives er allemaal zijn doe ik dit:
ls -l /etc/alternatives


Vervolgens worden de verschillende java-links in /etc/alternatives/ bij 
mij gelinkt naar toepassingen in /usr/lib/jvm/. Ik weet niet zeker of 
toepassingen als Eclipse en Apache dezelfde links gebruiken als bash. Ik 
denk dat de opties en omgevingsvariabelen voor een aantal andere 
applicaties die een jvm gebruiken, apart aangepast moeten worden.


Mvg,
Jan-Rens.


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Re: Java 8

[Cecil Westerhof]

Op Monday 24 Nov 2014 21:18 CET schreef Thijs Kinkhorst:

 On Mon, November 24, 2014 20:41, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
 Ik gebruik Debian Wheezy. Daar zit standaard Java 1.6.0 op. Ik wil
 met Java 7 werken. Ik heb met succes gedaan: apt-get install
 openjdk-7-jdk

 Op zich ging dat goed, want
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-i386/bin/java -version
 geeft 1.7.0.

 Echter ‘java -version’ geeft nog steeds 1.6.0.

 Wat moet ik doen om 1.7.0 de default te maken?

 Debian Wheezy bevat zowel Java 6 als Java 7. Door openjdk-7-jdk te
 installeren heb je Java 7 aan je systeem toegevoegd, maar Java 6 is
 er ook nog.

 Er zijn twee opties: 1) Als je Java 6 niet meer wilt gebruiken:
 apt-get remove openjdk-6-jdk. Daarmee verwijder je Java 6, Java 7
 wordt dan de default. 2) Als je beide op het systeem wilt houden
 maar 7 de default wilt maken, moet je update-alternatives
 gebruiken om in te stellen naar welk van de twee het commando java
 verwijst.

Ik heb optie 2 gebruikt, dat werkte als een speer.


 De Java 8 uit de onderwerpsregel is niet beschikbaar op Wheezy.

Ja, domme fout. Op dit moment werk ik nog met openSUSE, maar ik ben
bezig met de transitie naar Debian. Op openSUSE staat default Java 7.
Op Debian 6. Ik wilde in principe naar 8, maar Wheezy gaat standaard
niet verder dan 7. Dus ik had Java 7 als onderwerp moeten gebruiken.

Er zijn wel hacks om Java 8 op je Wheezy te krijgen, maar op dit
moment vind ik de urgentie niet hoog genoeg om een hack toe te passen.

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Re: Java 8

[Cecil Westerhof]

Op Tuesday 25 Nov 2014 09:40 CET schreef Paul van der Vlis:

 Op 25-11-14 om 08:42 schreef Jan-Rens Reitsma:
 On 11/24/2014 08:41 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
 Ik gebruik Debian Wheezy. Daar zit standaard Java 1.6.0 op. Ik wil
 met Java 7 werken. Ik heb met succes gedaan: apt-get install
 openjdk-7-jdk

 Op zich ging dat goed, want
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-i386/bin/java -version
 geeft 1.7.0.

 Echter ‘java -version’ geeft nog steeds 1.6.0.

 Wat moet ik doen om 1.7.0 de default te maken?

 Misschien moeten er nog links of PATH-variabelen in
 configuratiebestanden naar de java-1.7.0 binary aangepast worden.

 Volg dus eerst de links door te beginnen met:

 $ ls -l /usr/bin | grep java

 etc ... tot je de link naar de java 1.6.0- of 1.7.0-versie gevonden
 hebt.

 Daarvoor is juist het update-alternatived mechanisme:
 update-alternatives --config java

 Daar kun je kiezen welke java je wilt, en wordt alles goed gezet.
 Zie ook man update-alternatives.

Ik gebruikte --set met compleet pad. Dit is toch ‘iets’ handiger. ;-)

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Re: Java 8

[Thijs Kinkhorst]

Hoi Cecil,

On Mon, November 24, 2014 20:41, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
 Ik gebruik Debian Wheezy. Daar zit standaard Java 1.6.0 op. Ik wil met
 Java 7 werken. Ik heb met succes gedaan:
 apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk

 Op zich ging dat goed, want
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-i386/bin/java -version
 geeft 1.7.0.

 Echter ‘java -version’ geeft nog steeds 1.6.0.

 Wat moet ik doen om 1.7.0 de default te maken?

Debian Wheezy bevat zowel Java 6 als Java 7. Door openjdk-7-jdk te
installeren heb je Java 7 aan je systeem toegevoegd, maar Java 6 is er ook
nog.

Er zijn twee opties:
1) Als je Java 6 niet meer wilt gebruiken: apt-get remove openjdk-6-jdk.
Daarmee verwijder je Java 6, Java 7 wordt dan de default.
2) Als je beide op het systeem wilt houden maar 7 de default wilt maken,
moet je update-alternatives gebruiken om in te stellen naar welk van de
twee het commando java verwijst.

De Java 8 uit de onderwerpsregel is niet beschikbaar op Wheezy.

Groeten,
Thijs


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Re: java +chrome

[Rodolfo]

Após você descompactar o java, copie-o ou mouva para a pasta /usr/lib/jvm
Depois no shell você executa como root este comando, exemplo, instalando o
java 8:

update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java
/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_05/bin/java 7


O número 7 no final de comando significa a prioridade que você dará ao
pacote configurado, para ver a lista de java instalado basta fazer:

update-alternatives --list java


Para selecionar qual java você irá usar:

update-alternatives --config java


Lembrando que esse install foi para o comando JAVA, você pode, ser quiser,
fazer isso também para o compilador, JAVAC.


Abraços.

Em 27 de maio de 2014 01:31, Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:


 Esse método eu não conhecia

 Eu conhecia até aqui um pacote fornecido por este repositório:
 deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all

 Que fornece um pacote chamado update-sun-jre. É de um repositório
 extra-oficial, não é? Verifiquei o que esse pacote faz e parece ter
 nada de surpreendente. Gostaria de saber se há algum senão.


 Em Mon, 26 May 2014 04:48:03 -0500
 Geowany Alves geowany.a...@gmail.com escreveu:

  Bom dia,
 
  Por que você não usa o java package ?
 
  Muito mais simples baixar o tarball do java da oracle e transformá-lo
  em pacote Debian.
 
  https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage
 
 
  Abraços,
 
  *Geowany Galdino Alves*
  *Assistente em Tecnologia da Informação - NTI/UFAC*
  *Acadêmico em Licenciatura Plena - HISTÓRIA/UFAC*
 
 
  Em 24 de maio de 2014 19:56, Listeiro 037
  listeiro_...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:
 
  
   Olá. Debian possui um comando de configuração em algum lugar prá se
   escolher o java-default que usará. A disposição aqui está assim:
  
   Java descompactado fica em
   /opt/java/64/jre1./
  
   No diretório /usr/lib/jvm fica um link para lá
   ln -s /opt/java/64/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./
  
   E mais um outro link para a jvm default
   ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/default-java
  
   E de acordo com
   www.java.com/pt_BR/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
  
 www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Instalando-o-plugin-Java-6.20-no-Google-Chrome
  
   mais estes comandos;
  
   mkdir -p /opt/google/chrome/plugins/
   sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
  
  
   Em Sat, 24 May 2014 16:29:21 -0300
   Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu:
  
Olá, baixei o java  e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv
jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida
 criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue
   
mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins
cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins
ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
   
   
Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver
este problema?
   
   
  
  
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Re: java +chrome

[Geowany Alves]

Bom dia,

Por que você não usa o java package ?

Muito mais simples baixar o tarball do java da oracle e transformá-lo em
pacote Debian.

https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage


Abraços,

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Em 24 de maio de 2014 19:56, Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:


 Olá. Debian possui um comando de configuração em algum lugar prá se
 escolher o java-default que usará. A disposição aqui está assim:

 Java descompactado fica em
 /opt/java/64/jre1./

 No diretório /usr/lib/jvm fica um link para lá
 ln -s /opt/java/64/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./

 E mais um outro link para a jvm default
 ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/default-java

 E de acordo com
 www.java.com/pt_BR/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
 www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Instalando-o-plugin-Java-6.20-no-Google-Chrome

 mais estes comandos;

 mkdir -p /opt/google/chrome/plugins/
 sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so


 Em Sat, 24 May 2014 16:29:21 -0300
 Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu:

  Olá, baixei o java  e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv
  jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida
   criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue
 
  mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins
  cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins
  ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
 
 
  Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver
  este problema?
 
 


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Re: java +chrome

[Listeiro 037]

Esse método eu não conhecia

Eu conhecia até aqui um pacote fornecido por este repositório:
deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all

Que fornece um pacote chamado update-sun-jre. É de um repositório
extra-oficial, não é? Verifiquei o que esse pacote faz e parece ter
nada de surpreendente. Gostaria de saber se há algum senão.


Em Mon, 26 May 2014 04:48:03 -0500
Geowany Alves geowany.a...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Bom dia,
 
 Por que você não usa o java package ?
 
 Muito mais simples baixar o tarball do java da oracle e transformá-lo
 em pacote Debian.
 
 https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage
 
 
 Abraços,
 
 *Geowany Galdino Alves*
 *Assistente em Tecnologia da Informação - NTI/UFAC*
 *Acadêmico em Licenciatura Plena - HISTÓRIA/UFAC*
 
 
 Em 24 de maio de 2014 19:56, Listeiro 037
 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:
 
 
  Olá. Debian possui um comando de configuração em algum lugar prá se
  escolher o java-default que usará. A disposição aqui está assim:
 
  Java descompactado fica em
  /opt/java/64/jre1./
 
  No diretório /usr/lib/jvm fica um link para lá
  ln -s /opt/java/64/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./
 
  E mais um outro link para a jvm default
  ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/default-java
 
  E de acordo com
  www.java.com/pt_BR/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
  www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Instalando-o-plugin-Java-6.20-no-Google-Chrome
 
  mais estes comandos;
 
  mkdir -p /opt/google/chrome/plugins/
  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
 
 
  Em Sat, 24 May 2014 16:29:21 -0300
  Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu:
 
   Olá, baixei o java  e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv
   jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida
criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue
  
   mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins
   cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins
   ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
  
  
   Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver
   este problema?
  
  
 
 
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Re: java +chrome

[Alexandre Martins]

Esse link aí ta meio esquisito. Não teria que ser

ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
/opt/google/chrome/plugins  ?



Em 24 de maio de 2014 16:29, Manoel Pedro de Araújo
mpara...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Olá, baixei o java  e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv jre1.7.0_55
 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida
  criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue

 mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins
 cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins
 ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so


 Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver este 
 problema?


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Re: java +chrome

[Francisco C Soares]

On 24-05-2014 16:29, Manoel Pedro de Araújo wrote:
Olá, baixei o java  e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv 
jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida

criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue
|mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins
cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins
ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
|
|

Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver este 
problema?
|


Saudações Manoel,

Aparentemente a sua instalação está correta, confira em
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml

Contudo, eu acredito que o seu problema seja a versão do Chrome.

Aparti da versão 35 o suporte a Netscape Plug-in API (NPAPI) foi 
completamente descontinuado.

Veja mais em:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/T0bGgI3KgOI 
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#%21topic/chrome/T0bGgI3KgOI

http://www.chromium.org/developers/npapi-deprecation

Com a descontinuação do NPAPI, muitos plugins deixaram de funcionar!

Fica bem,
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Re: java +chrome

[Julio]

No conteiner de plugins do firefox o chrome reconhece .
meu script de adicionar e remover

#!/bin/bash

javapluginn=/arquivos/00_Repositorios/00_APPS_/jre1.7.0_17/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

remove-java() {
sudo rm  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so  /dev/null
echo ln -ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
ls -la /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
echo Java Disabled
}

enable-java() {
sudo rm  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so  /dev/null
cd  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
sudo ln -s  $javapluginn
echo ln -ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
ls -la /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
echo Java Enabled
}

case $1 in

remove ) remove-java  ;;
add) enable-java ;;
*) echo Usar remove ou add ;;

esac

Em 24-05-2014 16:29, Manoel Pedro de Araújo escreveu:
Olá, baixei o java  e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv 
jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida

 criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue
|mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins
cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins
ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so


|
|Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver este 
problema?
|

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Re: java +chrome

[Listeiro 037]

Olá. Debian possui um comando de configuração em algum lugar prá se
escolher o java-default que usará. A disposição aqui está assim: 

Java descompactado fica em 
/opt/java/64/jre1./

No diretório /usr/lib/jvm fica um link para lá
ln -s /opt/java/64/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./

E mais um outro link para a jvm default
ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1./ /usr/lib/jvm/default-java 

E de acordo com
www.java.com/pt_BR/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Instalando-o-plugin-Java-6.20-no-Google-Chrome

mais estes comandos;

mkdir -p /opt/google/chrome/plugins/
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so


Em Sat, 24 May 2014 16:29:21 -0300
Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá, baixei o java  e movi para pasta jmv do seguito modo mv
 jre1.7.0_55 /usr/lib/jvm, em seguida
  criei o link simbolico no chrome como segue
 
 mkdir /opt/google/chrome/plugins
 cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins
 ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
 
 
 Apos isso o chrome nao reconhece o java. Alguém sabe como resolver
 este problema?
 
 


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[OT] Re: java mydlink

[Camaleón]

El Wed, 26 Feb 2014 20:12:13 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 no puedo hacerlos correr desde la web
 
 uso chromium

A: What can I do if I can NOT see live video successfully?
https://www.mydlink.com/faq#id-topFAQ/ans-145

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Re: [OT] Re: Java JDK, API y tutoriales en Debian.

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:16:21 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

 El día 26 de noviembre de 2013 10:19, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

(...)

 Pues te vas a esta página:

 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html

 Y te descargas el paquete que te interesa, abres el tar.gz y localizas
 la ruta de la documentación.

 Esa parte ya la sabía...

¿Entonces? :-?

Ahí tienes todo, desde la ruta donde se instala la documentación hasta 
los archivos de la API por separado, etc...

 También la puedes consultar en la web:

 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/index.html

 Lo que me interesa es, principalmente, alojarla en el directorio
 indicado del JDK, y desde allí decirle a Eclipse Y a NetBeans que la
 lea. Aunque pensandolo bien, quizás Google tenga la respuesta, si sé
 cómo preguntarle.

Sigo sin ver el problema. La documentación la puedes almacenar donde 
quieras (dentro o fuera del directorio de instalación de JDK) y luego 
tendrás que configurar las aplicaciones para que la busquen donde les 
digas.

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[OT] Re: Java JDK, API y tutoriales en Debian.

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:19:33 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

(...)

 Ajá, entonces digamos que alguien tiene instalado el JDK de Oracle (por
 aquello de estar más extendido, aunque muchos de ustedes tendrán el
 OpenJDK). Digamos que quiere instalarse la API para usarla con Eclipse y
 NetBeans, así como los tutoriales. Si alguien la ha instalado, ¿en qué
 carpeta se guardan? 

(...)

Pues te vas a esta página:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html

Y te descargas el paquete que te interesa, abres el tar.gz y localizas la 
ruta de la documentación.

También la puedes consultar en la web:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/index.html

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Re: [OT] Re: Java JDK, API y tutoriales en Debian.

[Miguel Matos]

El día 26 de noviembre de 2013 10:19, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:19:33 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

 (...)

 Ajá, entonces digamos que alguien tiene instalado el JDK de Oracle (por
 aquello de estar más extendido, aunque muchos de ustedes tendrán el
 OpenJDK). Digamos que quiere instalarse la API para usarla con Eclipse y
 NetBeans, así como los tutoriales. Si alguien la ha instalado, ¿en qué
 carpeta se guardan?

 (...)

 Pues te vas a esta página:

 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html

 Y te descargas el paquete que te interesa, abres el tar.gz y localizas la
 ruta de la documentación.

Esa parte ya la sabía...

 También la puedes consultar en la web:

 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/index.html

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indicado del JDK, y desde allí decirle a Eclipse Y a NetBeans que la
lea. Aunque pensandolo bien, quizás Google tenga la respuesta, si sé
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Re: Java 7

[André Luiz]

Encontrei esse artigo no dicas-l explicando como instalar o plugin:
http://www.dicas-l.com.br/arquivo/site_do_banco_do_brasil_no_linux.php


On Monday 05 August 2013 10:45:41 Emerson Monteiro wrote:

Eu uso Debian  Wheezy com Java e Iceweasel e não tenho problema com BB.
Tenho conta PJ e PF.

Re: Java 7

[Shutdown -h now]

Amigos,

Após instalar o pacote 'icedtea-7-plugin' e suas dependências, consegui
usar aplicações em java normalmente.

Para testar, acesse a página:

http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp

Abraços



Em 5 de agosto de 2013 21:11, André Luiz andre4li...@gmail.com escreveu:

 **

 Encontrei esse artigo no dicas-l explicando como instalar o plugin:

 http://www.dicas-l.com.br/arquivo/site_do_banco_do_brasil_no_linux.php





 On Monday 05 August 2013 10:45:41 Emerson Monteiro wrote:

 Eu uso Debian  Wheezy com Java e Iceweasel e não tenho problema com BB.

 Tenho conta PJ e PF.

Re: java

[Greyson Farias]

Executa como root:

# update-alternatives --config java


Aí ele vai exibir algo assim:


Existem 2 escolhas para a alternativa java (disponibiliza /usr/bin/java).

  Selecção   Caminho  Prioridade Estado

* 0/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java   7 modo
automático
  1/opt/jre1.7.0_25/bin/java 1 modo
manual
  2/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java   7 modo
manual

Pressione enter para manter a escolha actual[*], ou digite o número da
selecção:


Seleciona a versão e confirma com enter.

Espero que ajude.


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Em 26 de julho de 2013 13:54, Manoel Araujo mpedro.ara...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Olá, meu debian weeze depois que atualizei ele nao reconhece o java.
 Alquem ja
 passou or este problema?

Re: java on wheezy

[Francesco Pietra]

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 Francesco Pietra wrote:
  Is any official (= working) advice on getting java at work with wheezy
  (specifically in amd64, if relevant)?

   http://wiki.debian.org/Java

  What should be installed/reconfigured/uninstalled other than the packages
  obtained from wheezy desktop install, followed by upgrading with
 
  deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-beta

 I am not using iceweasel from experimental.  But I am using the same
 version from Backports on Stable Squeeze 6.  Works for me.

 What is the output of this for you?

   $ update-alternatives --display mozilla-javaplugin.so
   mozilla-javaplugin.so - auto mode
 link currently points to
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
   /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so -
 priority 1071
   Current 'best' version is
 '/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so'.


It matches your output:
 francesco@tya64:~$ update-alternatives --display mozilla-javaplugin.so
mozilla-javaplugin.so - auto mode
  link currently points to
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so - priority
1061
Current 'best' version is
'/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so'.
francesco@tya64:~$


   $ dlocate
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
   icedtea-7-plugin:amd64:
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so


For me (I use v 6):
 francesco@tya64:~$ dlocate
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
icedtea-6-plugin:amd64:
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
francesco@tya64:~$


 The above from my machine shows that it is handled by the
 icedtea-7-plugin:amd64 package.

  many other javascripts...

 Note that Java != Javascript.  The name Javascript was simply an
 attempt to ride on the wave of marketing for Java.  It has worked.
 Many people think they are related.  They are not.

  I am not playing with java (useless in the scientific area), however many
  molecular structures are shown on the web which require java.

 The world of Java seems fraught with programs that are version
 specific.  Perhaps you are hitting one of those cases.  Perhaps Java
 in general is working but a particular program is version specific and
 doesn't match your version?


Bob:
You hit the point.
Now, at least from academic centers,  I can see all the molecular
structures that require java. Thanks for the lesson
francesco


 Bob

Re: java on wheezy

[Zenaan Harkness]

My test (and Java app I want to run) is sweethome3d.
Wasn't working on wheezy.
Upgraded to sid. Sweethome3d worked.
Upgraded some days back, now it doesn't work.
Not sure if I'm doing anything wrong. 64-bit.
Haven't tested in a browser.
Zenaan


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Re: java on wheezy

[Bob Proulx]

Francesco Pietra wrote:
 Is any official (= working) advice on getting java at work with wheezy
 (specifically in amd64, if relevant)?

  http://wiki.debian.org/Java

 What should be installed/reconfigured/uninstalled other than the packages
 obtained from wheezy desktop install, followed by upgrading with
 
 deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-beta

I am not using iceweasel from experimental.  But I am using the same
version from Backports on Stable Squeeze 6.  Works for me.

What is the output of this for you?

  $ update-alternatives --display mozilla-javaplugin.so
  mozilla-javaplugin.so - auto mode
link currently points to 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
  /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so - priority 
1071
  Current 'best' version is 
'/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so'.

  $ dlocate /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
  icedtea-7-plugin:amd64: 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so

The above from my machine shows that it is handled by the
icedtea-7-plugin:amd64 package.

 many other javascripts...

Note that Java != Javascript.  The name Javascript was simply an
attempt to ride on the wave of marketing for Java.  It has worked.
Many people think they are related.  They are not.

 I am not playing with java (useless in the scientific area), however many
 molecular structures are shown on the web which require java.

The world of Java seems fraught with programs that are version
specific.  Perhaps you are hitting one of those cases.  Perhaps Java
in general is working but a particular program is version specific and
doesn't match your version?

Bob


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Re: java font size

[jerome moliere]

Salut Bzzz
quelle drole d'idée as tu là ? lol
Quelle horreur mon dieu ? lol
pour t'aider va faire un tour là:
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/intl/fontconfig.html

Jerome

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Le 2 avril 2013 20:33, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit :

 Salut liste,

 je suis en train de tester un truc écrit en java et les caractères
 sont vraiment trop petits; comment puis-je faire pour augmenter
 la taille par défaut (si poss. définitivement)?

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Re: java font size

[Bzzz]

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:36:54 +0200
jerome moliere jerome.moli...@gmail.com wrote:

Slut Jérôme

 quelle drole d'idée as tu là ? lol
 Quelle horreur mon dieu ? lol

Vi, c'est l'horreur, des primitives de 15Km de long,
du CPU et de la RAM bouffé à tire larigot, berk!

Mais le soft a l'air pômal du tout (ERP OpenConcerto)
et comme c'est malheureusement rarissime dans cette
catégorie de l'open-source…

 pour t'aider va faire un tour là:
 http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/intl/fontconfig.html

àlail, àlail, j'y go.

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Re: java font size

[jerome moliere]

Peut etre que ce thread peut t'intéresser aussi​:
http://www.java.net/node/680725

En gros il te permettrait en modifiant le script de lancement de ton soft
de passer des options -D à la JVM pour contrôler différents paramètres
gérés en fonction du look feel par l'UIManager
j'ai pas fait de swing depuis plus de 10 ans

Jerome

Re: java font size

[Bzzz]

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:36:54 +0200
jerome moliere jerome.moli...@gmail.com wrote:

 pour t'aider va faire un tour là:
 http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/intl/fontconfig.html

Tu parles d'une aide, comme d'hab ce qui est (presque)
partout simple dégénère en imbitable avec java:((

J'ai aussi jeté un œil à ton autre lien mais ça ne me parle
pas trop.

Personne n'aurait un fichier fontconfig.properties qui tienne
la route?

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Re: java font size

[jerome moliere]

Quand tu lances ta JVM java avec java (le binaire) dans ce script tu peux
ajouter des options avec des -D du type -Dswing.plaf.metal.controlFont=un
nom de fonte/taille )  cela ne marche que si le lookfeel utilisé est
metal (souvent sélectionnable directement par menu dans les applications
Java.Metal etait le lf par défaut avant je ne sais pas si c'est toujours
le cas...

Jerome

Re: java font size

[Bzzz]

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 21:27:26 +0200
jerome moliere jerome.moli...@gmail.com wrote:

 -Dswing.plaf.metal.controlFont=un nom de fonte/taille )  cela ne
 marche que si le lookfeel utilisé est metal (souvent sélectionnable
 directement par menu dans les applications Java.Metal etait le lf
 par défaut avant je ne sais pas si c'est toujours le cas...

Ben ça doit plus être le default parce que ça ne marche pa;
j'ai trouvé différents parms du même type sur le web, mais
rien ne fonctionne; pas plus que de changer le DPI de 
l'affichage:(

J'ai aussi vu qu'en 2005, il existait un ControlPanel permettant
de régler tout ça, bien évidemment c'était sans doute bcp trop 
simple et il a disparu.

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Re: java font size

[Bzzz]

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 21:27:26 +0200
jerome moliere jerome.moli...@gmail.com wrote:


C'est vraiment la misère sur ce point particulier; d'après le
peu que j'ai trouvé sur la question il semble que machin assume
un DPI de 72; PB, pour différentes raisons, je suis en 160…

Pour un test ça peut passer, mais certainement pas pour une
install client en exploitation :(((

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Re: Java

[Rodolfo]

Tenta instalar o headless do JDK que voce esta usando:

openjdk-6-jdk-headless

Algo assim.


Flw!

Em 28 de março de 2013 09:07, Luís Cláudio A. Gama luisg...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Bom dia a todos,

   Pessoal, 2 semanas atrás troquei meu Squeeze 64 bits por um Wheezy 32
 bits. Optei por trocar de arquitetura devido à altos problemas que tive
 para instalar aplicativos ( Skype, Mixxx, etc ) e fiquei receoso de tentar
 multi-arch.

   Pois bem, avancei bastante com o Wheezy e consegui colocar quase tudo
 que tinha no anteriormente e está falando somente o TED ( torrent episode
 downloader ), que é um app em Java, que funcionava muito bem.

  Eu estava com o OpenJDK 6 ( instalado por default ) e precisei colocar o
 Oracle Java 7 ( imposição dos bancos Santander e Itau ).

   Tentei executar o app pelo Dolphin ( botão direito e escolhendo qer um
 dos javas ) e não consegui absolutamente nada.

   Executei o update-alternatives --config java para escolher qual java
 seria utilizado. Tentei com cada uma das opções mostradas.

   Retirei o OpenJDK e deixei somente o Java 7. Nada


   Fiz o update-atlternaves novamente para tentar arrumar algo que
 estivesse quebrado e nada.

   Sempre que tento por linha de comando é mostrado as seguintes mensagens:

 java -jar ted.jar

 luis@hal9000:~/Downloads$ Exception in thread main
 java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no tray in java.library.path

 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1860)

 at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:845)

 at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:1084)

 at
 org.jdesktop.jdic.tray.internal.impl.GnomeSystemTrayService.clinit(Unknown
 Source)

 at
 org.jdesktop.jdic.tray.internal.impl.ServiceManagerStub.getService(Unknown
 Source)

 at
 org.jdesktop.jdic.tray.internal.ServiceManager.getService(Unknown Source)

 at org.jdesktop.jdic.tray.SystemTray.clinit(Unknown Source)

 at ted.TedTrayIcon.init(TedTrayIcon.java:28)

 at ted.TedMainDialog.initGUI(TedMainDialog.java:309)

 at ted.TedMainDialog.init(TedMainDialog.java:125)

 at ted.TedMain.main(TedMain.java:50)



   Já pesquisei bastante a respeito, mas não encontrei algo que possa me
 ajudar.


   Alguém tem uma sugestão?


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Re: Java

[Luís Cláudio A . Gama]

Pessoal,

  Consegui fazer o TED funcionar.

  Obrigado pelas dicas, mas descobri que faltava libjdic-bin.

  Após instalar essa lib o ted abriu normalmente com o OpenJDK 7, mas não
abriu com o Oracle 7.

  VAleu







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Em 28 de março de 2013 10:30, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Tenta instalar o headless do JDK que voce esta usando:

 openjdk-6-jdk-headless

 Algo assim.


 Flw!

 Em 28 de março de 2013 09:07, Luís Cláudio A. Gama 
 luisg...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Bom dia a todos,

   Pessoal, 2 semanas atrás troquei meu Squeeze 64 bits por um Wheezy 32
 bits. Optei por trocar de arquitetura devido à altos problemas que tive
 para instalar aplicativos ( Skype, Mixxx, etc ) e fiquei receoso de tentar
 multi-arch.

   Pois bem, avancei bastante com o Wheezy e consegui colocar quase tudo
 que tinha no anteriormente e está falando somente o TED ( torrent episode
 downloader ), que é um app em Java, que funcionava muito bem.

  Eu estava com o OpenJDK 6 ( instalado por default ) e precisei colocar o
 Oracle Java 7 ( imposição dos bancos Santander e Itau ).

   Tentei executar o app pelo Dolphin ( botão direito e escolhendo qer um
 dos javas ) e não consegui absolutamente nada.

   Executei o update-alternatives --config java para escolher qual java
 seria utilizado. Tentei com cada uma das opções mostradas.

   Retirei o OpenJDK e deixei somente o Java 7. Nada


   Fiz o update-atlternaves novamente para tentar arrumar algo que
 estivesse quebrado e nada.

   Sempre que tento por linha de comando é mostrado as seguintes mensagens:

 java -jar ted.jar

 luis@hal9000:~/Downloads$ Exception in thread main
 java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no tray in java.library.path

 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1860)

 at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Runtime.java:845)

 at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:1084)

 at
 org.jdesktop.jdic.tray.internal.impl.GnomeSystemTrayService.clinit(Unknown
 Source)

 at
 org.jdesktop.jdic.tray.internal.impl.ServiceManagerStub.getService(Unknown
 Source)

 at
 org.jdesktop.jdic.tray.internal.ServiceManager.getService(Unknown Source)

 at org.jdesktop.jdic.tray.SystemTray.clinit(Unknown Source)

 at ted.TedTrayIcon.init(TedTrayIcon.java:28)

 at ted.TedMainDialog.initGUI(TedMainDialog.java:309)

 at ted.TedMainDialog.init(TedMainDialog.java:125)

 at ted.TedMain.main(TedMain.java:50)



   Já pesquisei bastante a respeito, mas não encontrei algo que possa me
 ajudar.


   Alguém tem uma sugestão?


   Att.


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Re: Java Security Flaw

[Miles Fidelman]

Patrick Bartek wrote:

For the past couple of days have been reading about a major security hole in 
Java 7:

(http://www.zdnet.com/homeland-security-warns-to-disable-java-amid-zero-day-flaw-709713/)

And was wondering if IceTea might have the same flaw.  As yet I've seen no 
mention of it.



Also no mention of whether this effects server side code (e.g., web 
services running behind Tomcat or Jetty), or stand-alone applications 
written in Java?


And.. what about non-Oracle Java implementations?


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Re: java plugin

[Greg Madden]

On Tuesday 20 November 2012 16:32:35 you wrote:
 I thought I read or heard on a podcast (TechSNAP???) that Firefox
 (and by implicit extension Iceweasel) was blacklisting sun-java due
 to Oracle's epic fail with security. Can anyone confirm?

Using Iceweasel 10.0.10, from mozilla.debian.net in Squeeze, the plugin 
check feautre disables, it seems, any java stuff except the latest from 
Oracle. jre-7u9-linux-x64


 Not sure of a fix, other than, maybe, try openjdk/icetea. I don't
 usually run java apps, if I can avoid it. Do you need java, and more
 to the point, do you need *Sun's* java?

 --b

 On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Michael P. Soulier

 msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Nothing I do seems to get the java plugin working in iceweasel. I
  installed sun-java6-plugin, confirmed that the symlinks from the
  iceweasel plugins directory are there, but it doesn't appear in
  about:plugins.
 
  Any tips?
 
  Thanks,
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Re: java plugin

[Brad Alexander]

I thought I read or heard on a podcast (TechSNAP???) that Firefox (and
by implicit extension Iceweasel) was blacklisting sun-java due to
Oracle's epic fail with security. Can anyone confirm?

Not sure of a fix, other than, maybe, try openjdk/icetea. I don't
usually run java apps, if I can avoid it. Do you need java, and more
to the point, do you need *Sun's* java?

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msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
 Hi,

 Nothing I do seems to get the java plugin working in iceweasel. I installed
 sun-java6-plugin, confirmed that the symlinks from the iceweasel plugins
 directory are there, but it doesn't appear in about:plugins.

 Any tips?

 Thanks,
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Re: java enable in Iceweasel (Sid)?

[Jochen Spieker]

Anthony Campbell:
 
 Following a suggestion on google I also installed icedtea-6-plugin but
 it doesn't seem to produce anything useful, similar to sunjavaplugin.so,
 which I used to have previously.

I don't know whether that actually helps you, but when dealing with the
many Java alternatives, it is best not to use update-alternatives but
update-java-alternatives which sets all Java-related symlinks with one
command.

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Re: java enable in Iceweasel (Sid)?

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:55:22 +0100
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:

Hello Anthony,

Following a suggestion on google I also installed icedtea-6-plugin but
it doesn't seem to produce anything useful, similar to sunjavaplugin.so,
which I used to have previously.

IcedTea is the correct plugin for the OpenJDK jre and should work.  What
does about:plugins have to say regarding availability of icedtea?

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Re: java enable in Iceweasel (Sid)?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 17 Jul 2012, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:55:22 +0100
 Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Anthony,
 
 Following a suggestion on google I also installed icedtea-6-plugin but
 it doesn't seem to produce anything useful, similar to sunjavaplugin.so,
 which I used to have previously.
 
 IcedTea is the correct plugin for the OpenJDK jre and should work.  What
 does about:plugins have to say regarding availability of icedtea?
 
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Thanks to both for replies. Results to date:

1. sudo update-java-alternatives --plugin --jre -a  is the only
commanmd I can get to run without errors, but it doesn't solve things.


2. about:plugins says:

Tea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.2 (1.2-2))

File: IcedTeaPlugin.so


followed by a list of a lot of applications and Description: IcedTea,
Suffixes: class.jar.


I found the file IceTeaPlugin.so and copied it to ~/.mozilla/plugins,
but still no joy. The page I am trying to access keeps saying I must
have java enabled. The above entry from about:plugins seems to say I do,
but apparently not.


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Re: java enable in Iceweasel (Sid)? -SOLVED

[Anthony Campbell]

OK, I found it - embarrassingly, java was disabled in Preferences!

Working OK now - apologies for troubling the list.

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Re: java enable in Iceweasel (Sid)?

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:46:48 +0100
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:

Hello Anthony,

I found the file IceTeaPlugin.so and copied it to ~/.mozilla/plugins,
but still no joy. The page I am trying to access keeps saying I must
have java enabled. The above entry from about:plugins seems to say I do,
but apparently not.

You don't say which page you're trying, but here's one that I know works
with IcedTea (because I just tried it);
http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/info/en/help/requirements/flash.html

Read the instructions, so you know what you should see, then hit the
play button.

At this point I will say that I'm using testing, so there might be
issues that affect you (in Sid) that don't affect me.

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Re: java enable in Iceweasel (Sid)? -SOLVED

[Weaver]

 OK, I found it - embarrassingly, java was disabled in Preferences!

 Working OK now - apologies for troubling the list.

I was trying to think what it might be.
I run Iceweasel with SID and the only time I have 'trouble' with it, is
when No-Script blocks it on a new site.

I remember being called out to 'fix' peoples new audio amplifiers and the
plug was just switched off at the wall because somebody had used a vacuum
cleaner.
After that, I could fix most 'defective' amplifiers over the phone.
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Re: java enable in Iceweasel (Sid)? -SOLVED

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:07:20 +0100
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:

Hello Anthony,

OK, I found it - embarrassingly, java was disabled in Preferences!

You've found the problem, that's what counts.  Posting the solution to
the list is always a good idea.

Working OK now - apologies for troubling the list.

Hey, it kept us off the streets for half an hour.  That can only be a
good thing, right?   :-)

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Re: java enable in Iceweasel (Sid)? -SOLVED

[Anthony Campbell]

On 17 Jul 2012, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:07:20 +0100
 Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Anthony,
 
 OK, I found it - embarrassingly, java was disabled in Preferences!
 
 You've found the problem, that's what counts.  Posting the solution to
 the list is always a good idea.
 
 Working OK now - apologies for troubling the list.
 
 Hey, it kept us off the streets for half an hour.  That can only be a
 good thing, right?   :-)
 


My wife once rang me at work to complain that the computer wasn't
working. No lights, nothing.

Me: Have you switched it on?

Wife: Oh. I didn't know I had to do that.



I'm in no position to laugh at her now.



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Re: java enable in Iceweasel (Sid)? -SOLVED

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:17:39 +0100
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:

Hello Anthony,

I'm in no position to laugh at her now.

Sure you are.  Just not with a clear conscience.  :-))

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Re: java plugin, is does it have any security vulnerabilities ?

[Sven Hoexter]

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 06:23:58PM -0400, Andrew Reid wrote:

Hi,

   You can switch to OpenJDK, or remove your sun-java6 packages and install
 the JRE from the Oracle-provided binaries.

I would rephrase it a little bit to 'You _should_ switch to OpenJDK and
the icedtea browser plugin'. If you can't, because you've to e.g. use
the KVM console of Dells iDRAC cards in various incarnations, you can
convert the Oracle .bin packages to a .deb package.

There is a helper tool in sid, which works fine on Debian/Squeeze
aswell, called make-jpkg. You can find it in the java-package
Debian package  http://packages.debian.org/sid/java-package

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Re: java plugin, is does it have any security vulnerabilities ?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:54:09 +0100, dave selby wrote:

 i am running Debian stable (squeeze) and have java installed
 6.26-osqueeze1 as a package.
 
 Firefox uses this package but when I asked it to check if plugins are up
 to date it says nope, need version 7...

Yes, the latest Oracle's Java version is now 7 (update 5).

 So am I right in thinking that v6.26 is old (and thus the advice to
 upgrade to 7) but does not have any known security vulnerabilities
 because it is part of stable ?
 
 Or have I missed something ?

I'm afraid the current Oracle's Java version in Squeeze is vulnerable. 
You either switch to OpenJVM or manually install Oracle's Java 7 from 
their site ;-(

More info:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=646524
http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/sun-java6

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Re: java plugin, is does it have any security vulnerabilities ?

[Andrew Reid]

 Hi All,
 
 i am running Debian stable (squeeze) and have java installed
 6.26-osqueeze1 as a package.
 
 Firefox uses this package but when I asked it to check if plugins are
 up to date it says nope, need version 7...
 
 So am I right in thinking that v6.26 is old (and thus the advice to
 upgrade to 7) but does not have any known security vulnerabilities
 because it is part of stable ?

  Are you using the Debian-provided sun-java6-plugin package?

  My understanding is that this package is no longer updated by Debian, 
because of licensing restrictions introduced by Oracle affecting
redistribution.  There is no Debian-packaged Sun Java VM newer than 6u26.

  You can switch to OpenJDK, or remove your sun-java6 packages and install
the JRE from the Oracle-provided binaries.

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Re: java alternatives

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:53:53 -0600, ChadDavis wrote:

 I want to see the script that installs the alternatives when the
 sun-java6-jdk is installed.  I'm not that familiar with the .deb
 structure, etc.  I guess it's in some lifecycle script, but I don't know
 where those end up.  The update-alternatives man page says
 update-alternatives is usually called from the postinst (configure) or
 prerm (install) scripts in Debian packages.  But where do I find those?

sm01@stt008:~$ locate update-alternatives
/usr/sbin/update-alternatives
(...)

sm01@stt008:~$ file /usr/sbin/update-alternatives
/usr/sbin/update-alternatives: a /usr/bin/perl -- script text executable

sm01@stt008:~$ cat /usr/sbin/update-alternatives 
(...)

Or more specifically:

sm01@stt008:~$ file /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives 
/usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives: Bourne-Again shell script text executable

sm01@stt008:~$ cat /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives
(...)

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Re: java alternatives

[Camaleón]

El 2012-06-28 a las 10:59 -0600, ChadDavis escribió:

(resending to the list)

  sm01@stt008:~$ locate update-alternatives
  /usr/sbin/update-alternatives
  (...)
 
  sm01@stt008:~$ file /usr/sbin/update-alternatives
  /usr/sbin/update-alternatives: a /usr/bin/perl -- script text executable
 
  sm01@stt008:~$ cat /usr/sbin/update-alternatives
  (...)
 
  Or more specifically:
 
  sm01@stt008:~$ file /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives
  /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives: Bourne-Again shell script text 
  executable
 
  sm01@stt008:~$ cat /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives
  (...)
 
 I'm not looking for the update-java-alternatives or the
 update-alternatives themselves.  I'm looking for the package lifecycle
 scripts that actually invoke update-alternatives --install for each of
 the java commands when the package is installed.

I think it comes from dpkg itself. Sorry for not being more specific, 
but I'm not sure what kind of information you are looking for :-?

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Re: java alternatives

[Camaleón]

El 2012-06-28 a las 13:33 -0600, ChadDavis escribió:

(resending to the list)

  I'm not looking for the update-java-alternatives or the
  update-alternatives themselves.  I'm looking for the package lifecycle
  scripts that actually invoke update-alternatives --install for each of
  the java commands when the package is installed.
 
  I think it comes from dpkg itself. Sorry for not being more specific,
  but I'm not sure what kind of information you are looking for :-?
 
 
 I'm looking for the package lifecycle scripts that register the
 package's commands with the alterntaves mechanism.  And, as Richard
 pointed out, they are located at:
 
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-jdk.postinst
 /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-jdk.prerm

Ah, fine then... as you did not reply to any of the posts in the thread,
I tought you were still searching for it.

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Re: java alternatives

[Rob Owens]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 03:53:53PM -0600, ChadDavis wrote:
 I want to see the script that installs the alternatives when the
 sun-java6-jdk is installed.  I'm not that familiar with the .deb
 structure, etc.  I guess it's in some lifecycle script, but I don't
 know where those end up.  The update-alternatives man page says
 update-alternatives is usually called from the postinst (configure)
 or prerm (install) scripts in Debian packages.  But where do I find
 those?
 
If you download the deb, you can view its contents (it's just an
archive) using xarchiver or something similar.  The files you're looking
for will be in the DEBIAN directory.

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Re: java alternatives

[Richard Hector]

On 28/06/12 09:53, ChadDavis wrote:
 I want to see the script that installs the alternatives when the
 sun-java6-jdk is installed.  I'm not that familiar with the .deb
 structure, etc.  I guess it's in some lifecycle script, but I don't
 know where those end up.  The update-alternatives man page says
 update-alternatives is usually called from the postinst (configure)
 or prerm (install) scripts in Debian packages.  But where do I find
 those?

If the package is installed:

/var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-jdk.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-jdk.prerm

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Re: Java virou pacote orfão???

[Sinval Júnior]

Para quem usa Banco do Brasil o openjdk-6-jre e icedtea-plugin não
estava funcionando, tive que instalar a versão do Oracle, na unha
mesmo.

Em 11 de dezembro de 2011 23:32, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Olá,

 Em 10/12/11, Sávio M. Ramossavio.deb...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Não são mais necessários? Quais os pacotes para instalar o java?

 Alguma luz?


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Re: Java virou pacote orfão???

[Gunther Furtado]

Ter, 13.12.2011, Sinval Júnior disse:

 Para quem usa Banco do Brasil o openjdk-6-jre e icedtea-plugin não
 estava funcionando, tive que instalar a versão do Oracle, na unha
 mesmo.
 

por aqui, a dupla Oracle free do wheezy (amd64) funciona bem com o BB.

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Re: Java virou pacote orfão???

[P. J.]

Oi,

Em 13/12/11, Sinval Júniorsinva...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Para quem usa Banco do Brasil o openjdk-6-jre e icedtea-plugin não
 estava funcionando, tive que instalar a versão do Oracle, na unha
 mesmo.

Comigo está funcionando direitinho o openjdk e icedtea na i386 da
wheezy, mas eu removi os pacotes debian da sun.

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Re: Java virou pacote orfão???

[Sávio M. Ramos]

Em Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:55:01 -0200
Cláudio E. Elicker elic...@gmail.com escreveu:

 openjdk-6-jre e icedtea-plugin é o que tenho instalado e funcionando.
 O openjdk-7-jre também está no testing.

Já instalei os dois e o fluentizer voltou a funcionar.

Grato.

Obs: Além de instalar eu digitei como root: update-alternatives
--config java e escolhi a opção 5, no meu caso. Veja abaixo.

# update-alternatives --config java
Existem 5 escolhas para a alternativa java (disponibiliza /usr/bin/java).

  Selecção   Caminho Prioridade Estado

  0/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java   1061  modo 
automático
  1/usr/bin/gij-4.4 1044  modo 
manual
  2/usr/bin/gij-4.6 1046  modo 
manual
  3/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java   1061  modo 
manual
* 4/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java 63modo 
manual
  5/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java   1051  modo 
manual

Pressione enter para manter a escolha actual[*], ou digite o número da 
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Re: Java virou pacote orfão???

[P. J.]

Olá,

Em 10/12/11, Sávio M. Ramossavio.deb...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Não são mais necessários? Quais os pacotes para instalar o java?

 Alguma luz?


http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2011/10/25/removal_of_sun_java6_from_debian


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Re: Java virou pacote orfão???

[Cláudio E. Elicker]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:55:01 -0200
Sávio M. Ramos savio.deb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Olá,
 
 O aptitude está colocando como orfão os pacotes:
 
 sun-java6-bin
 sun-java6-jre
 sun-java6-plugin
 

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=646524


 Não são mais necessários? Quais os pacotes para instalar o java?

 
openjdk-6-jre e icedtea-plugin é o que tenho instalado e funcionando.

O openjdk-7-jre também está no testing.


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Re: Java virou pacote orfão???

[André Luiz Fraga Moreira]

Os pacotes sun-java6-* foram removidos do Debian testing e unstable, ficando 
somente o openjdk. Li a respeito disso em algum lugar e acho que foi devido aos 
problemas de licença com a Oracle, mas não tenho certeza se era isso. Para usar 
o java da Oracle, só mesmo baixando no site do java.

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:55:01 -0200
Cláudio E. Elicker elic...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:55:01 -0200
 Sávio M. Ramos savio.deb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Olá,
  
  O aptitude está colocando como orfão os pacotes:
  
  sun-java6-bin
  sun-java6-jre
  sun-java6-plugin
  
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=646524
 
 
  Não são mais necessários? Quais os pacotes para instalar o java?
 
  
 openjdk-6-jre e icedtea-plugin é o que tenho instalado e funcionando.
 
 O openjdk-7-jre também está no testing.
 
 
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Re: Java pas

[Thomas Clavier]

Le 08/12/2011 16:15, jerome moliere a écrit :
 c'est fréquemment débattu ici mais c'est pas une super idée de te
 cantonner aux JVMs dispo dans les répos Debian ...
troll
ou pas ... la jvm sun^W Oracle packagé permet un suivi des mises à jour
beaucoup plus simple.
/troll

Vendredi c'est permis :-)

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Re: Java pas

[David Prévot]

Le 09/12/2011 06:30, Thomas Clavier a écrit :
 Le 08/12/2011 16:15, jerome moliere a écrit :
 c'est fréquemment débattu ici mais c'est pas une super idée de te
 cantonner aux JVMs dispo dans les répos Debian ...
 troll
 ou pas ... la jvm sun^W Oracle packagé permet un suivi des mises à jour
 beaucoup plus simple.
 /troll

Quel paquet ?

http://bugs.debian.org/646524
http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2011/10/25/removal_of_sun_java6_from_debian

Amicalement

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Re: Java pas

[Thomas Clavier]

Le 09/12/2011 15:03, David Prévot a écrit :
 Quel paquet ?
 http://bugs.debian.org/646524
 http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2011/10/25/removal_of_sun_java6_from_debian

ha merde j'avais pas suivi ça ... encore un argument pour openjdk :-)

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Re: Java pas

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 Le 09/12/2011 15:03, David Prévot a écrit :
 Quel paquet ? http://bugs.debian.org/646524 
 http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2011/10/25/removal_of_sun_java6_from_debian

 
 ha merde j'avais pas suivi ça ... encore un argument pour openjdk
 :-)
 

Hélas j'ai à faire tourner des softs qui aux derniers essais ne
tournaient qu'avec la VM Sun...

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Re: Java pas

[jerome moliere]

Bonjour frédéric,
alors en vrac:
- installes une vraie JVM disponible sur le site d'oracle 1.6.29 ou 1.7u1
- positionnes les logs du GC et dimensionnes ta heap

reviens avec ces données et on verra ce que l'on peut faire...
c'est du debian quoi ? squeeze/lenny/etch/sarge ???
c'est fréquemment débattu ici mais c'est pas une super idée de te
cantonner aux JVMs dispo dans les répos Debian ...

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Le 8 décembre 2011 16:10, Frédéric ZULIAN zul...@free.fr a écrit :

 Bonjour,

 J'ai un petit serveur de jeux en ligne utilisant java.

 Dés que l'on dépasse la dizaine de joueurs, il y a des lags de + en +
 important.

 Top m'indique que Java utilisent 159 % et + du cpu  ??

 Une idée ?



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Re: Java pas

[~TraydenT]

Le Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:10:44 +0100,
Frédéric ZULIAN zul...@free.fr a écrit :
 Bonjour,
Bonsoir,

 J'ai un petit serveur de jeux en ligne utilisant java.
Est-ce Minecraft ?

 […]
 Cpu AMD 4200
 RAM 2 GZ
Si c'est effectivement Minecraft, il est nécessaire d'avoir une bonne
bête de course pour gérer une dixaine de joueurs ;)

Si c'est autre chose, pourrais-tu fournir plus d'informations sur le
java ? Par exemple la sortie de « java -version » …

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Re: Java Error or so...

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:04:59 +0300, Kostas Psilopoulos wrote:

 in debian squeeze 2.6.32-5 with xen i try to set up a working eucalyptus
 cloud I get a problem like this.
 Is anyone aware of that kind of problem? how do i solve it, or anything
 usefull at all? I'm kind of stuck in this...

(...)

 javax.crypto.BadPaddingException: pad block corrupted

(...)

Looks like a Java error coming from the run application.

Under what Java VM are you running it? Also, consider posting this 
question in the application forums/mailing list, I think you will get 
further info :-?

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Re: java plugin for iceweasel

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 29 May 2011 16:09:49 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:

 What's the Debian way to get Java to work from iceweasel?

Debian wiki has a good guide:

http://wiki.debian.org/Java/Sun

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Re: java plugin for iceweasel

[Johan Grönqvist]

2011-05-29 18:09, Hendrik Boom skrev:

What's the Debian way to get Java to work from iceweasel?


Here is what I would do:

Try installing a plugin package like 
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=sun+java+pluginsearchon=namessuite=allsection=all, 
and lookout for http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056.


... and it has worked for me.

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Re: java plugin for iceweasel

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

2011/5/30 Johan Grönqvist johan.gronqv...@gmail.com

 2011-05-29 18:09, Hendrik Boom skrev:

  What's the Debian way to get Java to work from iceweasel?


 Here is what I would do:

 Try installing a plugin package like 
 http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=sun+java+pluginsearchon=namessuite=allsection=all,
 and lookout for http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056.

 ... and it has worked for me.

 / johan


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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Vu Ngoc VU]

hello,

instead of replacing squeeze by lenny,
you can add identical lines with lenny.

So you have both in sources.list.

At my work, some java programs required version 5 and other version 6.
As sun-java5 is no more on Squeeze, i added Lenny in sources.list and 
then, use :

apt-get install sun-java5-jre

As sun-java5-jre doesn't exist on Squeeze, there is no clue.
But if you want to install some package that have the same name on both 
distros,

you can use option -t with apt-get.

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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Andrew McGlashan]

Hi,

Vu Ngoc VU wrote:

instead of replacing squeeze by lenny,
you can add identical lines with lenny.

So you have both in sources.list.

At my work, some java programs required version 5 and other version 6.
As sun-java5 is no more on Squeeze, i added Lenny in sources.list and 
then, use :

apt-get install sun-java5-jre

As sun-java5-jre doesn't exist on Squeeze, there is no clue.
But if you want to install some package that have the same name on both 
distros, you can use option -t with apt-get.


If sun-java5 continues to be important, then why not have a port in 
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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Jochen Schulz]

Andrew McGlashan:
 Vu Ngoc VU wrote:
 
 As sun-java5-jre doesn't exist on Squeeze, there is no clue.
 But if you want to install some package that have the same name on
 both distros, you can use option -t with apt-get.
 
 If sun-java5 continues to be important, then why not have a port in
 squeeze too?

Probably because it isn't supported upstream anymore:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5/

| Java SE 5.0 is in its Java Technology End of Life (EOL) transition
| period. The EOL transition period began April 8th, 2007 and will
| complete October 8th, 2009, when Java SE 5.0 will have reached its End
| of Service Life (EOSL).

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Re: java 5 in squeeze

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In 4d42f1db.4050...@affinityvision.com.au, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
If sun-java5 continues to be important, then why not have a port in
squeeze too?

No longer supported upstream.  No volunteers have stepped forward to maintain 
it.  Debian is a volunteer organization, so usually the reason something is 
missing is that no volunteer labor is available.

There are also some minimal quality standards.  There might have been a 
volunteer, but their work was below those standards either due to lack of time 
or skill.
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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Andrew McGlashan]

Hi,

Jochen Schulz wrote:

Andrew McGlashan:

If sun-java5 continues to be important, then why not have a port in
squeeze too?


Probably because it isn't supported upstream anymore:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5/

| Java SE 5.0 is in its Java Technology End of Life (EOL) transition
| period. The EOL transition period began April 8th, 2007 and will
| complete October 8th, 2009, when Java SE 5.0 will have reached its End
| of Service Life (EOSL).


Okay, but can't it be supported as a legacy package?  Once Lenny goes 
beyond support (12 months after squeeze release), then how will anyone 
be able to install it via apt-get / aptitude in a sane way?


Bring it across, but put a nice little disclaimer (as per above) that 
the package is no longer supported, but also include that it is provided 
as is for those that _may_ still need it for some reason or another.


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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 28 January 2011 20:24:01 Andrew McGlashan wrote:
 Jochen Schulz wrote:
  Andrew McGlashan:
  If sun-java5 continues to be important, then why not have a port in
  squeeze too?
  
  Probably because it isn't supported upstream anymore:
  
  http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5/
  
  | Java SE 5.0 is in its Java Technology End of Life (EOL) transition
  | period. The EOL transition period began April 8th, 2007 and will
  | complete October 8th, 2009, when Java SE 5.0 will have reached its End
  | of Service Life (EOSL).
 
 Okay, but can't it be supported as a legacy package?  Once Lenny goes
 beyond support (12 months after squeeze release), then how will anyone
 be able to install it via apt-get / aptitude in a sane way?

They can get it from snapshot.debian.org.  However, it's already not getting 
updates (including security updates) from upstream.  Security updates for non-
free are on a best-effort basis, so I expect by the time Lenny leaves security 
support entirely that Java 5 will be riddled with security holes.
 
 Bring it across, but put a nice little disclaimer (as per above) that
 the package is no longer supported, but also include that it is provided
 as is for those that _may_ still need it for some reason or another.

Sorry, that's not how Debian releases are managed.  With a few rare 
oversights, unmaintained software is not included in a stable release.  In 
fact, the software in a stable release should be able to count on upstream 
support for approximately 2 years or have a maintainer that is willing to 
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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Marko Randjelovic]

Joe Riel wrote:
 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:08:06 -0600
 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:

   
 I recommend not changing back your sources.list and actually adding
 the security repository for Lenny as well.
 

 I may have misinterpreted this.  Are you saying to change it to lenny
 and not change it back after updating and installing java 5?  Or are
 you saying not to change it to lenny in the first place [and do
 something else to obtain the files]?

 Thanks,

   
Of course you have to change back to Squeeze if you change to Lenny. But
it's the worst way. You can just add the repo for Lenny (including
non-free). It won't do any harm, since APT doesn't downgrade packages by
default. Then just install sun-java5 packages.

If you don't want ot mess up APT config, you can just download manually
packages and install them using dpkg.

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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Am Montag, 24. Januar 2011 schrieb Joe Riel:
 How can I install sun java 1.5 in squeeze?
 It isn't part of the release.

The package is sun-java5-jre.

If it is not here, add the repositoey of stable in sources.list.

Good luck!

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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Bob Proulx]

Joe Riel wrote:
 How can I install sun java 1.5 in squeeze?  
 It isn't part of the release. 

Java 1.6 is included in the non-free section.

  apt-get install sun-java6-jre

Useful information about this can be found on the wiki:

  http://wiki.debian.org/Java/Sun

If you absolutely need Java 1.5 then you will need to install the
older version from the Lenny non-free archive.

  http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sun-java5-jre

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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Joe Riel]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:12:22 -0700
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 Joe Riel wrote:
  How can I install sun java 1.5 in squeeze?  
  It isn't part of the release.   
 
 Java 1.6 is included in the non-free section.
 
   apt-get install sun-java6-jre
 
 Useful information about this can be found on the wiki:
 
   http://wiki.debian.org/Java/Sun
 
 If you absolutely need Java 1.5 then you will need to install the
 older version from the Lenny non-free archive.
 
   http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sun-java5-jre

Right.  How would I do that?  My knowledge of debian's package manager
is minimal.  I'm guessing that I'm not supposed to modify sources.list,
but rather do something else.  Maybe just download the deb and
install it with dpkg?  Is there a proper way to do this?


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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Joe Riel]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:05:21 +0100
Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote:

 Am Montag, 24. Januar 2011 schrieb Joe Riel:
  How can I install sun java 1.5 in squeeze?
  It isn't part of the release.
 
 The package is sun-java5-jre.
 
 If it is not here, add the repositoey of stable in sources.list.

No, it isn't there.  It isn't part of squeeze.  


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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Bob Proulx]

Joe Riel wrote:
 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
  If you absolutely need Java 1.5 then you will need to install the
  older version from the Lenny non-free archive.
  
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sun-java5-jre
 
 Right.  How would I do that?  My knowledge of debian's package manager
 is minimal.  I'm guessing that I'm not supposed to modify sources.list,
 but rather do something else.  Maybe just download the deb and
 install it with dpkg?  Is there a proper way to do this?

There are many different ways to do this and everyone has their own
(sometimes strong) opinions about how it should be done.

When I first suggested that link I was thinking it was just one or two
packages.  But looking now I see four.

  sun-java5-bin
  sun-java5-fonts
  sun-java5-jre
  sun-java5-plugin

And possibly more that I missed.  So that isn't going to be as easy to
do one at a time.

One Option:
Temporarily change your references from squeeze or sid in
/etc/apt/sources.list to lenny.  Run 'apt-get update', and then
'apt-get update install sun-java5-jre' and install.  Then restore your
previous /etc/apt/sources.list file and apt-get update again to clean
up.

Because sun-java5-jre requires other components this might be the best
easiest way.  In this case much easier than individually downloading
each package manually.  Going to an older repository for packages from
a newer system tends to have fewer traps than being on an older system
and going to a newer repository for packages so this is definitely the
route I would take.

Bob


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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In 20110124193731.ga25...@hysteria.proulx.com, Bob Proulx wrote:
One Option:
Temporarily change your references from squeeze or sid in
/etc/apt/sources.list to lenny.  Run 'apt-get update', and then
'apt-get update install sun-java5-jre' and install.  Then restore your
previous /etc/apt/sources.list file and apt-get update again to clean
up.

I recommend not changing back your sources.list and actually adding the 
security repository for Lenny as well.  It's rather rare for packages in non-
free to be updated, but you don't want to miss a security upgrade.  The 
security team will monitor and fix issue in Lenny until the Wheezy release or 
until one year after the Squeeze release (2012-02-06) whichever comes first.
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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Jochen Schulz]

Joe Riel:
 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
 
 If you absolutely need Java 1.5 then you will need to install the
 older version from the Lenny non-free archive.
 
   http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sun-java5-jre
 
 Right.  How would I do that?

In order to install packages from the non-free section, just add
non-free at the end of your sources.list lines. Example for squeeze:

deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free

It works exactly the same for older Debian versions. After editing
sources.list, just 'apt-get update' (or 'aptitude update', whatever you
prefer) and go on installing the package you want.

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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Jochen Schulz]

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Joe Riel:
 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:32:48 +0100
 
 In order to install packages from the non-free section, just add
 non-free at the end of your sources.list lines. Example for squeeze:
 
 deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
 
 I meant, how would I get it from *lenny*.

Since Java 5 isn't in squeeze, you can try adding a lenny-line
(including non-free) to your sources.list and then install the package.

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Re: java 5 in squeeze

[Joe Riel]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:32:48 +0100
Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote:

 Joe Riel:
  Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
  
  If you absolutely need Java 1.5 then you will need to install the
  older version from the Lenny non-free archive.
  
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sun-java5-jre
  
  Right.  How would I do that?
 
 In order to install packages from the non-free section, just add
 non-free at the end of your sources.list lines. Example for squeeze:
 
 deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
 
 It works exactly the same for older Debian versions. After editing
 sources.list, just 'apt-get update' (or 'aptitude update', whatever
 you prefer) and go on installing the package you want.

I meant, how would I get it from *lenny*.  I've seen one
recommendation to temporarily changes sources.list to use lenny rather
than squeeze.  Another said not to do that, but didn't give an
alternative.


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