Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian?

Thanks


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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian?

For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you
explain the particular features you are looking for?


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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian?

 For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you
 explain the particular features you are looking for?

SUSE administration tool. instead of x server, admins can use a
pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. for more details
please read.

https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_114/opensuse-reference/cha.yast.text.html







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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 11:18 +, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
  is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian?
 
 For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you
 explain the particular features you are looking for?

And do you want ncurses or a GUI?

For installing and uninstalling software by using a GUI you e.g. can use
Synaptic.

If you want to reconfigure something by ncurses, dpkg-reconfigure e.g.
keyboard-configuration.



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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Davide Mirtillo
Il 17/12/2012 12:57, Muhammad Yousuf Khan ha scritto:
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian?

 For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you
 explain the particular features you are looking for?
 
 SUSE administration tool. instead of x server, admins can use a
 pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. for more details
 please read.
 
 https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_114/opensuse-reference/cha.yast.text.html
 

What about aptitude?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(software)

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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 16:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface
 to manage the server.

pseudo-graphical does mean ncurses,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ncurses , then you should take a look at
dpkg-reconfigure, as I've wrtten in a previous mail, e.g.

dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration


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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 15:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 16:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
  instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface
  to manage the server.
 
 pseudo-graphical does mean ncurses,
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ncurses , then you should take a look at
 dpkg-reconfigure, as I've wrtten in a previous mail, e.g.
 
 dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

PS: You could write a simple bash script (even without knowledge how to
write scripts, it can be learned on the fly).

There are several ncurses based apps to configure your server.

A script could ask for what to do? E.g.

1. Keyboard
2. Network
3. Quit

1. e.g. will run dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
2. perhaps could run pppoeonf
3. simply would be exit 0.



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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Davide Mirtillo dav...@ser-tec.org wrote:
 Il 17/12/2012 12:57, Muhammad Yousuf Khan ha scritto:
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian?

 For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you
 explain the particular features you are looking for?

 SUSE administration tool. instead of x server, admins can use a
 pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. for more details
 please read.

 https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_114/opensuse-reference/cha.yast.text.html


 What about aptitude?

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(software)


Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does.

I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides
installation/removal of software, it does at least account management,
service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall
configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode
and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). I do not know of
anything like it in Debian since webmin was removed.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread John Hasler
Kelly writes:
 I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides
 installation/removal of software, it does at least account management,
 service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall
 configuration.

That should not be all in one program.
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RE: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Mark Allums
Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Davide Mirtillo dav...@ser-tec.org wrote:
 Il 17/12/2012 12:57, Muhammad Yousuf Khan ha scritto:
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian?

 For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you 
 explain the particular features you are looking for?

 SUSE administration tool. instead of x server, admins can use a 
 pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. for more 
 details please read.

 https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_114/opensuse-ref
 erence/cha.yast.text.html


 What about aptitude?

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(software)


Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does.

I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides installation/removal of 
software, it does at least account management, service 
management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall configuration. It a bit 
like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode and a GUI mode like 
SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). I do not know of anything like it in Debian 
since webmin was removed.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


The majority of Debian maintainers are aware of the existence of Yast.  I 
expect that if interest in it was that high, they would have long ago adapted 
it for Debian.  Since they haven't, I assume that interest in it is not that 
high.



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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread David Guntner
Kelly Clowers grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does.
 
 I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides
 installation/removal of software, it does at least account management,
 service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall
 configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode
 and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). I do not know of
 anything like it in Debian since webmin was removed.

When exactly was webmin removed?

 $ aptitude show webmin
 Package: webmin
 New: yes
 State: installed
 Automatically installed: no
 Version: 1.610
 Priority: optional
 Section: admin
 Maintainer: Jamie Cameron jcame...@webmin.com
 Uncompressed Size: 133 M
 Depends: perl, libnet-ssleay-perl, openssl, libauthen-pam-perl, 
 libpam-runtime, libio-pty-perl, apt-show-versions, python
 PreDepends: perl
 Replaces: webmin-adsl, webmin-apache, webmin-bandwidth, webmin-bind, 
 webmin-burner, webmin-cfengine, webmin-cluster, webmin-core, webmin-cpan, 
 webmin-dhcpd,
   webmin-exim, webmin-exports, webmin-fetchmail, webmin-firewall, 
 webmin-freeswan, webmin-frox, webmin-fsdump, webmin-grub, webmin-heartbeat,
   webmin-htaccess, webmin-inetd, webmin-jabber, 
 webmin-ldap-netgroups, webmin-ldap-user-simple, webmin-ldap-useradmin, 
 webmin-lilo, webmin-logrotate,
   webmin-lpadmin, webmin-lvm, webmin-mailboxes, webmin-mon, 
 webmin-mysql, webmin-nis, webmin-openslp, webmin-postfix, webmin-postgresql, 
 webmin-ppp,
   webmin-pptp-client, webmin-pptp-server, webmin-procmail, 
 webmin-proftpd, webmin-pserver, webmin-quota, webmin-samba, webmin-sarg, 
 webmin-sendmail,
   webmin-shorewall, webmin-slbackup, webmin-smart-status, 
 webmin-snort, webmin-software, webmin-spamassassin, webmin-squid, 
 webmin-sshd, webmin-status,
   webmin-stunnel, webmin-updown, webmin-usermin, webmin-vgetty, 
 webmin-webalizer, webmin-wuftpd, webmin-wvdial, webmin-xinetd
 Description: web-based administration interface for Unix systems
  Using Webmin you can configure DNS, Samba, NFS, local/remote filesystems
  and more using your web browser.  After installation, enter the URL
  https://localhost:1/ into your browser and login as root with your root
  password.

Seems to be there on my system (squeeze 6.0.6) :-)

  --Dave




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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread David Guntner
David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 Kelly Clowers grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does.

 I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides
 installation/removal of software, it does at least account management,
 service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall
 configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode
 and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). I do not know of
 anything like it in Debian since webmin was removed.
 
 When exactly was webmin removed?
 
 $ aptitude show webmin
 Package: webmin
 New: yes
 State: installed
 Automatically installed: no
 Version: 1.610
 Priority: optional
 Section: admin
 Maintainer: Jamie Cameron jcame...@webmin.com
 Uncompressed Size: 133 M
 Depends: perl, libnet-ssleay-perl, openssl, libauthen-pam-perl, 
 libpam-runtime, libio-pty-perl, apt-show-versions, python
 PreDepends: perl
 Replaces: webmin-adsl, webmin-apache, webmin-bandwidth, webmin-bind, 
 webmin-burner, webmin-cfengine, webmin-cluster, webmin-core, webmin-cpan, 
 webmin-dhcpd,
   webmin-exim, webmin-exports, webmin-fetchmail, webmin-firewall, 
 webmin-freeswan, webmin-frox, webmin-fsdump, webmin-grub, webmin-heartbeat,
   webmin-htaccess, webmin-inetd, webmin-jabber, 
 webmin-ldap-netgroups, webmin-ldap-user-simple, webmin-ldap-useradmin, 
 webmin-lilo, webmin-logrotate,
   webmin-lpadmin, webmin-lvm, webmin-mailboxes, webmin-mon, 
 webmin-mysql, webmin-nis, webmin-openslp, webmin-postfix, webmin-postgresql, 
 webmin-ppp,
   webmin-pptp-client, webmin-pptp-server, webmin-procmail, 
 webmin-proftpd, webmin-pserver, webmin-quota, webmin-samba, webmin-sarg, 
 webmin-sendmail,
   webmin-shorewall, webmin-slbackup, webmin-smart-status, 
 webmin-snort, webmin-software, webmin-spamassassin, webmin-squid, 
 webmin-sshd, webmin-status,
   webmin-stunnel, webmin-updown, webmin-usermin, webmin-vgetty, 
 webmin-webalizer, webmin-wuftpd, webmin-wvdial, webmin-xinetd
 Description: web-based administration interface for Unix systems
  Using Webmin you can configure DNS, Samba, NFS, local/remote filesystems
  and more using your web browser.  After installation, enter the URL
  https://localhost:1/ into your browser and login as root with your root
  password.
 
 Seems to be there on my system (squeeze 6.0.6) :-)

Scratch that, I think now that I vaguely remember that webmin *wasn't*
available via the normal Debian repositories.  But it was so flipping
simple to just download the .deb package from webmin.com and install
that, that I forgot I had to go there to get it. :-)  And, of course,
once it's installed in the system, of *course* aptitude is going to list
it on a show command grin

So it might not be in the Debian repositories (to which I have to find
myself asking the question, Why on Earth would the maintainers not keep
such a valuable package available?), but it's dirt easy to grab a .deb
package and install it.

--Dave





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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread John Hasler
--Dave writes:
 I have to find myself asking the question, Why on Earth would the
 maintainers not keep such a valuable package available?

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;dist=unstable;package=webmin
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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
 --Dave writes:
 I have to find myself asking the question, Why on Earth would the
 maintainers not keep such a valuable package available?

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;dist=unstable;package=webmin

And specifically http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343897

So it was yanked from unstable at the beginning of 2006 and then
propagated down normally, with Etch (2007) releasing without it.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:36:33 -0800
Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com
 wrote:
  --Dave writes:
  I have to find myself asking the question, Why on Earth would the
  maintainers not keep such a valuable package available?
 
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;dist=unstable;package=webmin
 
 And specifically
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343897
 
 So it was yanked from unstable at the beginning of 2006 and then
 propagated down normally, with Etch (2007) releasing without it.
 
 Cheers,
 Kelly Clowers
 
It does seem to be in active development again (still?) and have a .deb
package:
http://www.webmin.com/index.html

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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012 schrieb Muhammad Yousuf Khan:
 is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian?
 
 Thanks

You might want to try webmin and/or usermin. But it is no more in the 
debian repositories. I guess, no debian-developer took a look at it for years. 
They said at that time it is bad coded, with spaghetti-code. But this was 5 
years ago. Maybe the code is now better. But as I said: No one took a look at 
it again, although I often have asked for it in the past.

To find it, use google, I think, www.webmin.org might be the site.

Good luck!

Hans




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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 17 dec 12, 16:17:56, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian?

Kids, don't try this at home:

dpkg-reconfigure --all

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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Monte Milanuk

On 12/17/2012 08:03 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote:


I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides
installation/removal of software, it does at least account management,
service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall
configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode
and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface).


What about Web YaST?

http://webyast.github.com/webyast/


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Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Monte Milanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/17/2012 08:03 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote:


 I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides
 installation/removal of software, it does at least account management,
 service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall
 configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode
 and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface).


 What about Web YaST?

 http://webyast.github.com/webyast/

Never heard of it before. Looks like a separate piece of software
though, not part of YAST. Thanks for the info though.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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