Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:37:09PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

 informations. With apt-cache if I am running my debian, or with
 http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=foobar if I am not using

A shortcut for this is http://packages.debian.org/packagename

Cheers,
Tom

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shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:53:30PM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote:
 People can use other things than bash, I do not see the problem. And I
 think that someday I'll try zsh or csh. When I'll have the time :D

You should go really left-field and try rc! (but not for /bin/sh.)


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Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Beco
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:53:30PM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote:
 People can use other things than bash, I do not see the problem. And I
 think that someday I'll try zsh or csh. When I'll have the time :D

 You should go really left-field and try rc! (but not for /bin/sh.)



Never heard of it. What is rc?






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Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:17:50PM -0300, Beco wrote:
 Never heard of it. What is rc?

A shell. It's packaged in Debian, oddly enough in package 'rc'.
May I suggest you try apt-cache show rc, or google?


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Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:53:30PM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote:
 People can use other things than bash, I do not see the problem. And I
 think that someday I'll try zsh or csh. When I'll have the time :D

 You should go really left-field and try rc! (but not for /bin/sh.)



 Never heard of it. What is rc?


I do believe it is the shell from Plan 9

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Beco
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:17:50PM -0300, Beco wrote:
 Never heard of it. What is rc?

 A shell. It's packaged in Debian, oddly enough in package 'rc'.
 May I suggest you try apt-cache show rc, or google?



Thanks!

I tried google, but without more keywords, rc was too little to search.

apt-cache is great:

Description-en: implementation of the ATT Plan 9 shell
 rc is a command interpreter and programming language similar to sh(1). It is
 based on the ATT Plan 9 shell of the same name. The shell offers a C-like
 syntax (much more so than the C shell), and a powerful mechanism for
 manipulating variables. It is reasonably small and reasonably fast, especially
 when compared to contemporary shells. Its use is intended to be interactive,
 but the language lends itself well to scripts.


Cheers,
Beco



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Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread berenger . morel


I tried google, but without more keywords, rc was too little to 
search.


When I search for a package's description, I first use debian's 
informations. With apt-cache if I am running my debian, or with 
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=foobar if I am not using it. 
The 2nd is really nice to know if a package is available in other 
versions of debian ;)



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Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:43:00PM -0300, Beco wrote:
 I tried google, but without more keywords, rc was too little to search.

Good point, sorry.


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Re: shells (was Re: About standards Was: Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 22:37 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
 
  I tried google, but without more keywords, rc was too little to 
  search.
 
 When I search for a package's description, I first use debian's 
 informations. With apt-cache if I am running my debian, or with 
 http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=foobar if I am not using it. 
 The 2nd is really nice to know if a package is available in other 
 versions of debian ;)

That's useful regarding to Debian packages, however, searching the web
for information, the first search engine I would use is Google.

Even if I would search information about the character a, I would
search for letter a and similar and not for a, maybe letter a
sesame street.

Searching for rc is naive ;), I would start with rc shell, in this
case it's ok, if it wouldn't be ok I would continue with shell rc, rc
shell linux etc., unexperienced users might search for rc linux, this
would be understandable, but searching for rc unlikely will lead to
something useful.

*chuckle*




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