Re: call for seconds - separate proposal text for 2023/vote_002

[Daniel Kahn Gillmor]

On Wed 2023-11-22 19:31:34 +, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Le Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 07:16:48PM +0100, Bart Martens a écrit :
>> 
>> The Debian project asks the EU to not draw a line between commercial
>> and non-commercial use of FOSS.
>
> But the EU already does, all the time, really. This is simply not
> realistic.

Are you saying that the EU draws the line between commercial and
non-commercial uses of *any* software, generally?  Or any business
process, which happens to sometimes include software?

Liability rules that apply only for commercial business, whether the
business deals with software or not, are not at issue here, right?

If you're saying that there are EU software liability policies, that
apply strictly to F/LOSS software (not software generally), and which
discriminate against fields of endeavor like commercial
vs. non-commercial, could you point to some examples?  I'm quite
ignorant of EU law, so feel free to point me to obvious examples that
everyone already knows.

 --dkg


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CRA and PLD vote status

[Kurt Roeckx]

Hi,

I've updated the page at https://www.debian.org/vote/2023/vote_002 which
the current status.

We're at the maximum discussion period of 3 weeks, so the vote will
probably start the 10th of December.


Kurt

Re: Call for seconds: Delegate to the DPL

[Bart Martens]

On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 07:59:01PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> Gunnar Wolf  writes:
> 
> > But I believe our project is _first and foremost_ a political
> > statement (that produces a first-grade technological artifact).
> 
> I understand your position, but I see this exactly in the opposite way.

I'm a bit in between. Free Software may have originally started as an anti- big
companies movement, but nowadays it has matured, and those big companies are
now migrating their critical businesses to it.

Cheers,

Bart