Bug#595958: ITP: paml -- Phylogenetic Analysis by Maximum Likelihood

2010-09-12 Thread Steffen Möller
Hello,


On 09/08/2010 01:33 PM, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
 
 On Sep 7, 2010, at 17:54, Steffen Moeller wrote:
 
 * Package name: paml
 * URL : http://abacus.gene.ucl.ac.uk/software/paml.html
 * License : academics only
  Description : Phylogenetic Analysis by Maximum Likelihood

[...]

 My reading of the dsfg would be that this academics only license would not 
 be acceptable in Debian.

this is correct. The paml package goes to non-free, just like e.g. clustalw. We 
certainly hope that after some while upstream will
change that license to something that is free for everyone, but for the moment 
this is not the case.

Steffen






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Bug#595958: ITP: paml -- Phylogenetic Analysis by Maximum Likelihood

2010-09-11 Thread Steffen Möller
Hi Andreas,

On 09/08/2010 08:04 AM, Andreas Tille wrote:

 thanks for the ITP.
 
 As you can see at
 
http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/bio#paml
 
 this package is also provided by BioLinux people and I'd regard this as
 a really cool first step to integration if you would involve the
 maintainer inside BioLinux in the official Debian packaging.  I'd
 imagine that he and you are mentioned as Uploaders in a Debian Med group
 maintained package and you work as sponsor of him.

I have looked for their package but could not find it. The only reference
I saw is of version 4.4, and we aimed a 4.4c, so it could not be used
directly anyway.

I just met Pjotr at a meeting near Groningen. We did not have too much time
and we wanted to get this done quickly. Pjotr uses PAML actively for his
research and as such renders an excellent maintainer. We will find other
opportunities to collaborate more with BioLinux I then thought,
and our repository is open to them anyway, for them to improve whatever
they feel to have done a better job with.

Stuart, Oliver, Tim, I apologise should this effort have caused any
inconvenience for you. The packaging resides at
svn://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-med/trunk/packages/paml
and Tim may already have commit rights - I don't recall if he was
among those who I clicked through it when we met in Boston.

Many greetings

Steffen



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Bug#595958: ITP: paml -- Phylogenetic Analysis by Maximum Likelihood

2010-09-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steffen,

thanks for the ITP.

As you can see at

   http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/bio#paml

this package is also provided by BioLinux people and I'd regard this as
a really cool first step to integration if you would involve the
maintainer inside BioLinux in the official Debian packaging.  I'd
imagine that he and you are mentioned as Uploaders in a Debian Med group
maintained package and you work as sponsor of him.

Kind regards

 Andreas.

On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 05:54:13PM +0200, Steffen Moeller wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 Owner: Steffen Moeller steffen_moel...@gmx.de
 
 * Package name: paml
 * URL : http://abacus.gene.ucl.ac.uk/software/paml.html
 * License : academics only
   Description : Phylogenetic Analysis by Maximum Likelihood
 
 PAML is a package of programs for phylogenetic analyses of DNA or protein 
 sequences using maximum likelihood. It is maintained and distributed for 
 academic use free of charge by Ziheng Yang.
 PAML is not good for tree making. It may be used to estimate parameters and 
 test hypotheses to study the evolutionary process, when you have 
 reconstructed trees using other programs such as PAUP*, PHYLIP, MOLPHY, 
 PhyML, RaxML, etc. 
 

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Bug#595958: ITP: paml -- Phylogenetic Analysis by Maximum Likelihood

2010-09-08 Thread Jeremiah Foster

On Sep 7, 2010, at 17:54, Steffen Moeller wrote:

 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 Owner: Steffen Moeller steffen_moel...@gmx.de
 
 * Package name: paml
 * URL : http://abacus.gene.ucl.ac.uk/software/paml.html
 * License : academics only
  Description : Phylogenetic Analysis by Maximum Likelihood
 
 PAML is a package of programs for phylogenetic analyses of DNA or protein 
 sequences using maximum likelihood. It is maintained and distributed for 
 academic use free of charge by Ziheng Yang.
 PAML is not good for tree making. It may be used to estimate parameters and 
 test hypotheses to study the evolutionary process, when you have 
 reconstructed trees using other programs such as PAUP*, PHYLIP, MOLPHY, 
 PhyML, RaxML, etc. 

Could you explain a little more about the license? It doesn't sound like it 
really meets the Debian Free Software Guidlines, which say; 

No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor

The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from 
being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.

My reading of the dsfg would be that this academics only license would not be 
acceptable in Debian.

Regards,

Jeremiah





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Bug#595958: ITP: paml -- Phylogenetic Analysis by Maximum Likelihood

2010-09-07 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Steffen Moeller steffen_moel...@gmx.de

* Package name: paml
* URL : http://abacus.gene.ucl.ac.uk/software/paml.html
* License : academics only
  Description : Phylogenetic Analysis by Maximum Likelihood

PAML is a package of programs for phylogenetic analyses of DNA or protein 
sequences using maximum likelihood. It is maintained and distributed for 
academic use free of charge by Ziheng Yang.
PAML is not good for tree making. It may be used to estimate parameters and 
test hypotheses to study the evolutionary process, when you have reconstructed 
trees using other programs such as PAUP*, PHYLIP, MOLPHY, PhyML, RaxML, etc. 



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