I assume you can read.

2014-06-05 Thread zmweden2

[17:33] Cyberspirit yeah vm software can be a mongrel like that
[17:33] Cyberspirit try other software if you can
[17:34] peetaur2 I've also used vbox a bunch with very few issues ... 
what are you using?

[17:34] RickyB98 when am i gonna choose whether to install desktop or not?
[17:36] Cyberspirit debian is pretty broken in that regard
[17:36] Cyberspirit i would follow a tutorial
[17:36] mjt broken in what regard?
[17:40] Cyberspirit https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html
[17:41] Cyberspirit mjt: no clear cut menu feature which will install 
a very nice desktop on any debian install at the time of installation 
without having
to have constant access to the internet to download every single little 
package that is required to make it happen *- my grief was relevant 
when mistakingly downloading CD-1* *and assuming it contained a 
desktop ready to go.*

[17:41] themill Cyberspirit: what does that actually mean?
[17:41] Cyberspirit mjt: i needed fast internet access, and when i 
attempted a desktop install on debian it took 2 days vs 2 hours for ubuntu
[17:41] themill (and yes, you can install debian without an internet 
connection)
[17:41] Cyberspirit mjt: i dont have fast internet access, not all of 
the time anyway
[17:42] Cyberspirit even 10mbit dsl is too slow for a debian desktop 
installation to complete in 1 day

[17:42] mjt heh. Install a Very Nice Desktop (tm)
[17:42] themill Cyberspirit: eh? that's nonsense.
[17:42] Cyberspirit no its not
[17:42] Cyberspirit it has some credence
[17:43] themill umm... it is. You can install debian without any 
network connection at all.
[17:43] Cyberspirit themill you can install debian without internet 
access yes but not a decent desktop like what ubuntu has on a single 
650mb cd

[17:43] Cyberspirit thats what i mena
[17:43] themill Cyberspirit: not true.
[17:43] Cyberspirit mean
[17:43] Cyberspirit themill not easily?
[17:43] themill Cyberspirit: trivially.
[17:43] formorer wrong.
[17:43] Cyberspirit how then?
[17:44] formorer just download cd1 with gnome/kde/xfce *- bad 
advice**, cd1 contains no desktop as we find out later on.*

[17:44] RickyB98 no, that was not about the drivers..
[17:44] Cyberspirit thats what i did
[17:44] RickyB98 was about the EFI shizzem..
[17:44] Cyberspirit and i selected to install a desktop and it 
downloaded for a day *- because I was using CD-1*

[17:44] RickyB98 but i don't remember precisely
[17:44] formorer Cyberspirit: then you didn't downloaded the right cd1
[17:44] Cyberspirit mmm
[17:44] mjt RickyB98: one other possibility is to install one or 
another guest agent so, for example, cut-n-paste between host and vm works.

[17:44] formorer there are special cds for kde, gnome, xfce.
[17:44] jmcnaught Cyberspirit: i have 7mbit DSL and I can install 
Debian in under an hour. Also if you're installing Debian all the time, 
you can use

something like apt-cacher-ng on your network to speed things up.
[17:44] themill Cyberspirit: if you had downloaded the right CD1 then 
there would be nothing for the installer to download.

[17:45] Cyberspirit please point me to this 'special cd'
[17:45] Cyberspirit i'd like to install deb on my laptop here
[17:46] themill Cyberspirit: debian.org/CD
[17:47] Cyberspirit http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/i386/iso-cd/
[17:47] Cyberspirit ok now point me to the special cd in this list
[17:47] Cyberspirit now that i've finally gotten through to the right area
[17:47] themill Cyberspirit: what do you mean special cd
[17:48] Cyberspirit well if i choose CD-1.iso it wont have the desktop 
on it will it? so i'll have to choose one which comes with a desktop
[17:48] Cyberspirit which is the one i've been choosing for the last 
10 years btw

[17:48] Cyberspirit CD-1 is the one i've always grabbed
[17:48] themill Cyberspirit: which desktop are you actually asking about?
[17:49] Cyberspirit thats the thing
[17:49] mjt heh. Nice Desktop(tm) :)
[17:49] Cyberspirit i'm a windows user, i dont keep up on the latest 
thing, whats the best one?

[17:49] themill Cyberspirit: the one you like.
[17:49] Cyberspirit kde, lxde, xfce
[17:49] Cyberspirit is xfce even a desktop? thats the question i ask
[17:49] jelly-home Cyberspirit: it is.
[17:50] Cyberspirit suprised me, xfce sounded like a strange and 
obscure package name

[17:50] Cyberspirit ok i'll get kde
[17:50] Cyberspirit seeing as it reminds me of the desktop that i used 
10 years ago

[17:50] Cyberspirit on mandrake
[17:51] Cyberspirit thats what i mean when debian hasnt got a refined 
desktop install process

[17:51] themill Cyberspirit: you're making it more complicated than it is.
[17:51] Cyberspirit all of that bullshitting around has been replaced 
in ubuntu with a single link on the ubuntu website
[17:52] Cyberspirit themill: newbiness and the associated anxiety that 
comes with the installation of a new OS is exactly what will put people 
off from
trying it out, look at me i've been using linux for 10 years and for the 
last 2 

Feature request: Link to screenshots from packages.debian.org

2014-06-05 Thread Korte
Hi

It would be great if a search for packages links to
screenshots.debian.net.

A simple solution would be to add a static link to the package on
screenshots e.g. with the favicon [1] from screenshots. That icon could
be placed behind the heading Package gimp [icon] with the alternative
text search for screenshots.

A bigger solution would be to show a small picture from the
package screenshots, if available, and on mouse over there will be a
bigger picture. 

Greets

Jens Korte

[1] https://screenshots.debian.net/favicon.png


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Re: Feature request: Link to screenshots from packages.debian.org

2014-06-05 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 2014-06-05 11:24, Korte wrote:

It would be great if a search for packages links to
screenshots.debian.net.

A simple solution would be to add a static link to the package on
screenshots e.g. with the favicon [1] from screenshots. That icon could
be placed behind the heading Package gimp [icon] with the alternative
text search for screenshots.

A bigger solution would be to show a small picture from the
package screenshots, if available, and on mouse over there will be a
bigger picture.


I'm slightly confused as to what you feel is missing from the current 
implementation. For example, https://packages.debian.org/sid/gimp has a 
screenshot on the right-hand side, and clicking on that leads to 
https://screenshots.debian.net/package/gimp


Regards,

Adam


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Re: Feature request: Link to screenshots from packages.debian.org

2014-06-05 Thread Korte
Am Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:50:34 +0100
schrieb Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk:

 On 2014-06-05 11:24, Korte wrote:
  It would be great if a search for packages links to
  screenshots.debian.net.
  
  A simple solution would be to add a static link to the package on
  screenshots e.g. with the favicon [1] from screenshots. That icon
  could be placed behind the heading Package gimp [icon] with the
  alternative text search for screenshots.
  
  A bigger solution would be to show a small picture from the
  package screenshots, if available, and on mouse over there will be a
  bigger picture.
 
 I'm slightly confused as to what you feel is missing from the current 
 implementation. For example, https://packages.debian.org/sid/gimp has
 a screenshot on the right-hand side, and clicking on that leads to 
 https://screenshots.debian.net/package/gimp
 
 Regards,
 
 Adam

Sorry, I mean the result page from a search:
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=allsection=allarch=anysearchon=nameskeywords=gimp


Jens


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Re: after smart_change.pl, could not commit all the changes

2014-06-05 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
 Hey Laura!

* Laura Arjona Reina larjon...@gmail.com [2014-06-03 19:10:05 CEST]:
 I think that's why I could commit in English folder (which was
 already checked out with my login) but not in the others.
 
 Today, I did 'rm -rf webwml' and checked out the whole tree again,
 but with this command:
 
 cvs -d :ext:larjona-gu...@cvs.debian.org:/cvs/webwml checkout webwml

 You wouldn't have needed to do that.  The tool cvschroot from the
cvsutils package could have helped you with that, or even this oneliner:

$ for i in $(find webwml/ -name Root); do 
 echo :ext:larjona-gu...@cvs.debian.org:/cvs/webwml  $i
 done

 (the $ and  being the prompts, not to type)

 Sorry for the noise.

 No big deal, and great that you managed to find the reason yourself!
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Debian WWW CVS commit by carnil: webwml dutch/intro/cn.wml english/security/201 ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: carnil  14/06/05 12:18:54

Modified files:
dutch/intro: cn.wml 

Log message:
Dutch translation update

Added files:
english/security/2014: dsa-2949.data dsa-2949.wml 

Log message:
[DSA 2949-1] linux security update


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Debian WWW CVS commit by gusnan-guest: webwml english/users/gov/lsp-bilgorod-dnistrov ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: gusnan-guest14/06/05 12:59:39

Added files:
english/users/gov: lsp-bilgorod-dnistrovskiy.wml 

Log message:
Department of Labour and Social Protection, Bilgorod-Dnistrovskiy use 
Debian too

Added files:
swedish/security/2014: dsa-2949.wml 

Log message:
Initial Swedish translation


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Debian WWW CVS commit by gusnan-guest: webwml/english/security/2014 dsa-2950.wml dsa- ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: gusnan-guest14/06/05 13:05:36

Added files:
english/security/2014: dsa-2950.wml dsa-2950.data 

Log message:
[DSA 2950-1] openssl security update


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Debian WWW CVS commit by gusnan-guest: webwml/english/security/2014 dsa-2950.wml

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: gusnan-guest14/06/05 13:30:18

Modified files:
english/security/2014: dsa-2950.wml 

Log message:
Fix formatting


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Debian WWW CVS commit by gusnan-guest: webwml/swedish/security/2014 dsa-2950.wml

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: gusnan-guest14/06/05 13:34:15

Added files:
swedish/security/2014: dsa-2950.wml 

Log message:
Initial Swedish translation


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Debian WWW CVS commit by dogsleg-guest: webwml/russian/security/2014 dsa-2949.wml dsa- ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: dogsleg-guest   14/06/05 14:26:07

Added files:
russian/security/2014: dsa-2949.wml dsa-2950.wml 

Log message:
russian translation update


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Debian WWW CVS commit by dogsleg-guest: webwml/russian/vote/2014 suppl_001_stats.wml s ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: dogsleg-guest   14/06/05 14:31:43

Added files:
russian/vote/2014: suppl_001_stats.wml 
   suppl_001_stats_detailed.wml 
   suppl_002_stats.wml 
   suppl_002_stats_detailed.wml 

Log message:
russian translation update


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Debian WWW CVS commit by holger-guest: webwml indonesian/doc/ddp.wml danish/security/ ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: holger-guest14/06/05 18:13:51

Added files:
indonesian/doc : ddp.wml 

Log message:
Add file that translated by samsulmaarif,
see http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-indonesian/2012/01/msg00028.html

Added files:
danish/security/2012: dsa-2418.wml 

Log message:
Initial translation

Modified files:
german/doc : user-manuals.wml 

Log message:
Sync (1.143 - 1.145)


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Debian WWW CVS commit by holger-guest: webwml korean/ports/powerpc/Makefile korean/po ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: holger-guest14/06/05 18:16:38

Removed files:
korean/ports/powerpc: Makefile 
korean/ports/powerpc/inst: Makefile 
korean/ports/powerpc/pics: Makefile 
japanese/ports/powerpc: Makefile 
norwegian/ports/powerpc: Makefile 
norwegian/ports/powerpc/pics: Makefile 

Log message:
Remove empty stuff

Modified files:
german/events  : checklist.wml 

Log message:
Sync (1.20 - 1.21)


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Debian WWW CVS commit by holger-guest: webwml/german/events index.wml

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: holger-guest14/06/05 18:30:30

Modified files:
german/events  : index.wml 

Log message:
Sync (1.46 - 1.47)


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Debian WWW CVS commit by holger-guest: webwml english/partners/index.wml english/part ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: holger-guest14/06/05 18:46:27

Modified files:
english/partners: index.wml 
Added files:
english/partners/images: loongson.png 

Log message:
Adding Loongson/Lemote to the Debian partners page.

Modified files:
german/events  : material.wml 

Log message:
Sync (1.45 - 1.49)


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Debian WWW CVS commit by dogsleg-guest: webwml/russian/vote/2014 vote_002_index.src vo ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: dogsleg-guest   14/06/05 20:05:19

Added files:
russian/vote/2014: vote_002_index.src vote_002_majority.src 
   vote_002_quorum.src 

Log message:
russian translation update


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Debian WWW CVS commit by gusnan-guest: webwml french/misc/children-distros.wml englis ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: gusnan-guest14/06/05 20:34:30

Modified files:
french/misc: children-distros.wml 

Log message:
Update translation

Added files:
english/security/2014: dsa-2951.wml dsa-2951.data 

Log message:
[DSA 2951-1] mupdf security update


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Debian WWW CVS commit by gusnan-guest: webwml danish/events/2012/1023-uergs.wml danis ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: gusnan-guest14/06/05 20:35:26

Modified files:
danish/events/2012: 1023-uergs.wml 1027-lecamp-bsp.wml 
1027-tchelinux.wml 1027-t-dose.wml 
english/events/2012: 1023-uergs.wml 1027-lecamp-bsp.wml 
 1027-tchelinux.wml 1027-t-dose.wml 
french/events/2012: 1023-uergs.wml 1027-lecamp-bsp.wml 
1027-tchelinux.wml 1027-t-dose.wml 

Log message:
Mark events as past

Added files:
swedish/security/2014: dsa-2951.wml 

Log message:
Initial Swedish transtalion


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Debian WWW CVS commit by jipege1-guest: webwml japanese/security/2010/dsa-2026.wml fre ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: jipege1-guest   14/06/05 22:54:02

Added files:
japanese/security/2010: dsa-2026.wml 

Log message:
Update Japanese translation DSA 2026 (d-u@jp:54044)

Added files:
french/security/2014: dsa-2949.wml dsa-2950.wml dsa-2951.wml 

Log message:
(fr) initial translation


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Debian WWW CVS commit by jipege1-guest: webwml english/doc/books.def french/security/2 ...

2014-06-05 Thread Debian WWW CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
Module name:webwml
Changes by: jipege1-guest   14/06/05 23:00:20

Modified files:
english/doc: books.def 

Log message:
lowercased tags, added end tags

Modified files:
french/security/2014: dsa-2946.wml 

Log message:
(fr) proofread Jean-Paul Guillonneau


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