AW: [VOTE] Remove commercial tasks from Ant

2010-06-22 Thread Jan.Materne
1. Should the following commercial tasks be dropped from being 
distributed with the Ant release?

+1 for all


2. Should the commercial tasks that are voted for dropping from Ant
core 
above be established in their own Antlibs in the sandbox?

[  ]  +1 = Yes, establish one new Antlib in the sandbox for each task 
dropped
   -1 = No, just drop the commercial tasks altogether from Ant


+1 one antlib per task-family


Jan

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AW: Hudson target to build Ant via Maven

2010-06-22 Thread Jan.Materne
I'll try that ...

Jan 

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Von: Jesse Glick [mailto:jesse.gl...@oracle.com] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Juni 2010 02:19
An: dev@ant.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Hudson target to build Ant via Maven

On 06/11/2010 08:44 PM, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:
 we could contact the maven team and ask them to build ant in 
continuum.

Possible. I just suggested using the existing Hudson server to 
keep everything together. (Hudson has good Maven support.)


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Re: [VOTE] Remove commercial tasks from Ant

2010-06-22 Thread Kevin Jackson
Hi,

Sorry a little late to the party...

 1. Should the following commercial tasks be dropped from being distributed
 with the Ant release?

 [  ]  Continuous/Synergy tasks:  CCMCheckin, CCMCheckout, CCMCheckinTask,
 CCMReconfigure, CCMCreateTask
 [  ]  Clearcase tasks: CCCheckin, CCCheckout, CCUnCheckout, CCUpdate,
 CCMklbtype, CCMklabel, CCRmtype, CCLock, CCUnlock, CCMkbl, CCMkattr,
 CCMkdir, CCMkelem
 [  ]  Perforce Tasks: P4Sync, P4Change, P4Edit, P4Submit, P4Have, P4Label,
 P4Labelsync, P4Counter, P4Reopen, P4Revert, P4Add, P4Delete, P4Integrate,
 P4Resolve, P4Fstat
 [  ]  PVCS
 [  ]  ServerDeploy, but only for the jonas and weblogic nested elements,
 generic can stay where it is.
 [  ]  Source Offsite: sosget, soslabel, soscheckin, soscheckout
 [  ]  Microsoft Visual SourceSafe (already an Antlib)

Absolutely +1

 2. Should the commercial tasks that are voted for dropping from Ant core
 above be established in their own Antlibs in the sandbox?

 [  ]  +1 = Yes, establish one new Antlib in the sandbox for each task
 dropped

+1 move to antlibs for each group of tasks

      -1 = No, just drop the commercial tasks altogether from Ant

Thanks,
Kev

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Re: [VOTE] Remove commercial tasks from Ant

2010-06-22 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Bruce Atherton br...@callenish.com wrote:

 1. Should the following commercial tasks be dropped from being distributed
 with the Ant release?

+1 to all.

 2. Should the commercial tasks that are voted for dropping from Ant core
 above be established in their own Antlibs in the sandbox?

+1.

--DD

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Re: [VOTE] Remove commercial tasks from Ant

2010-06-22 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert

On 6/19/2010 2:38 PM, Bruce Atherton wrote:


1. Should the following commercial tasks be dropped from being 
distributed with the Ant release?


+1 for all

2. Should the commercial tasks that are voted for dropping from Ant 
core above be established in their own Antlibs in the sandbox?


+1 for all


Regards,

Antoine

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Re: [VOTE] Remove commercial tasks from Ant

2010-06-22 Thread Matt Benson

On Jun 19, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Bruce Atherton wrote:

 Ant supplies several tasks that require commercial software in order to run. 
 This is a problem because the Ant developers do not typically have access to 
 the commercial products required to test, maintain, and enhance the tasks. It 
 also means that users downloading the binary edition of Ant end up with a lot 
 of tasks that they cannot use.
 
 In order to rectify this situation, I'm calling a vote on how to deal with 
 these unsupportable tasks. The vote is composed of two parts: should we drop 
 support for each of these tasks from the Ant release, and should we establish 
 the commercial tasks that have been dropped as Antlibs in the sandbox.
 
 1. Should the following commercial tasks be dropped from being distributed 
 with the Ant release?
 
 [  ]  Continuous/Synergy tasks:  CCMCheckin, CCMCheckout, CCMCheckinTask, 
 CCMReconfigure, CCMCreateTask
 [  ]  Clearcase tasks: CCCheckin, CCCheckout, CCUnCheckout, CCUpdate, 
 CCMklbtype, CCMklabel, CCRmtype, CCLock, CCUnlock, CCMkbl, CCMkattr, CCMkdir, 
 CCMkelem
 [  ]  Perforce Tasks: P4Sync, P4Change, P4Edit, P4Submit, P4Have, P4Label, 
 P4Labelsync, P4Counter, P4Reopen, P4Revert, P4Add, P4Delete, P4Integrate, 
 P4Resolve, P4Fstat
 [  ]  PVCS
 [  ]  ServerDeploy, but only for the jonas and weblogic nested elements, 
 generic can stay where it is.
 [  ]  Source Offsite: sosget, soslabel, soscheckin, soscheckout
 [  ]  Microsoft Visual SourceSafe (already an Antlib)
 

+1 to all

 2. Should the commercial tasks that are voted for dropping from Ant core 
 above be established in their own Antlibs in the sandbox?
 
 [  ]  +1 = Yes, establish one new Antlib in the sandbox for each task dropped
  -1 = No, just drop the commercial tasks altogether from Ant
 

+0

-Matt

 Note that question 1 is a  vote for code modification, so any -1 vote on 
 question 1 is considered a veto. Question 2 is just for guidance from the 
 community about whether there is a desire to keep the commercial tasks around 
 in Antlibs. Since any committer can create a sandbox Antlib at any time, the 
 vote is non-binding and any -1 vote just indicates that the voter does not 
 think that this is a good idea rather than being a veto.
 
 Three or more +1 votes with no -1 votes are required for dropping any of the 
 commercial tasks. The vote will end in one week.
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Remove commercial tasks from Ant

2010-06-22 Thread Conor MacNeill
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 04:38, Bruce Atherton br...@callenish.com wrote:

 1. Should the following commercial tasks be dropped from being distributed
 with the Ant release?

 [  ]  Continuous/Synergy tasks:  CCMCheckin, CCMCheckout, CCMCheckinTask,
 CCMReconfigure, CCMCreateTask
 [  ]  Clearcase tasks: CCCheckin, CCCheckout, CCUnCheckout, CCUpdate,
 CCMklbtype, CCMklabel, CCRmtype, CCLock, CCUnlock, CCMkbl, CCMkattr,
 CCMkdir, CCMkelem
 [  ]  Perforce Tasks: P4Sync, P4Change, P4Edit, P4Submit, P4Have, P4Label,
 P4Labelsync, P4Counter, P4Reopen, P4Revert, P4Add, P4Delete, P4Integrate,
 P4Resolve, P4Fstat
 [  ]  PVCS
 [  ]  ServerDeploy, but only for the jonas and weblogic nested elements,
 generic can stay where it is.
 [  ]  Source Offsite: sosget, soslabel, soscheckin, soscheckout
 [  ]  Microsoft Visual SourceSafe (already an Antlib)


+1 to all.

 2. Should the commercial tasks that are voted for dropping from Ant core
 above be established in their own Antlibs in the sandbox?

 [  ]  +1 = Yes, establish one new Antlib in the sandbox for each task
 dropped
      -1 = No, just drop the commercial tasks altogether from Ant


+0

Conor

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Re: missing extension-point behaviour

2010-06-22 Thread Danny Yates
OK, so no feedback. Consider this to be me nagging :-)


On 21 June 2010 13:37, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote:

 On 2010-06-21, Danny Yates wrote:

  Anything I can do to assist?

 Wait and answer questions/concerns as they arrise (if they arrise).

 Nag and become annoying if you feel it takes too long ;-)

 Stefan

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