Re: Spaces in View Names

2011-02-17 Thread Gabriel Farrell
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Benjamin Young benja...@couchone.com wrote:
 On 2/14/11 11:50 AM, Gabriel Farrell wrote:

 If there's a use case for including spaces in view names (I haven't
 thought of one yet) we could meet that while avoiding whitespace-only
 names and other tricky issues by trimming leading and trailing spaces
 before creation.

 True, but you could still have two spaces in a name and that could still
 prove confusing.

 I'd vote for dropping it as an available character for view names (and maybe
 some other spots like filters, etc).

 I can do this easily enough in the UI, but how should we handle things
 lower down? By now we've likely got view names floating around installs
 that contain spaces.

 That's the bigger questions here, I think.

 Thoughts?

Agreed, the handling in the core is a bigger issue. It would be odd
for something to be illegal in futon but not in couch.

Are we starting down a slippery slope here? Until now anything valid
in a JSON string was valid as a view name, right? Do we want to start
validating these strings for view names, and possibly add other
validation requirements and other spots for validation (list, show,
etc.) down the road?

 On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jan Lehnardtj...@apache.org  wrote:

 Hi Benjamin,

 On 14 Feb 2011, at 16:52, Benjamin Young wrote:

 Hi all,

 It's currently possible to include space characters in View names, so
 your map/reduce URL can (actually) look like this:
 /db/_design/app/_view/
 (there are 5 spaces at the end of that partial URL)

 Encoded it would look like this:
 /db/_design/app/_view/%20%20%20%20%20

 Needless to say this could be potentially quite confusing--though I
 suppose we could consider it an obfuscation option. :/

 Should this be considered a bug and avoided in future views? or just
 considered an option that one should be careful when using?

 This came to my attention as Futon currently adds %20's to the names
 when displayed in dropdowns. Futon2, however, doesn't currently do
 that--making it nearly impossible to click the name of the view above--it 
 at
 least looks like a bug in the UI.

 Additionally, when editing documents with a view named with all spaces,
 the keys are displayed as un-viewable whitespace until you edit that chunk.
 In Futon2 it's currently impossible to edit that piece of the document (as
 you can't click it).

 As I'm working on Futon2, I'm wanting to determine what's the best way
 to handle spaces in view names. Should they be removed as an option for 
 that
 portion of the URL going forward? Should Futon2 escape them in any visual
 reference to them (as Futon1 currently does in most cases)?

 Just wanted to get some discussion on this before I picked a way
 forward. :)

 Thanks for bringing this up. I think we should not allow spaces in view
 names.

 Cheers
 Jan
 --








Re: Spaces in View Names

2011-02-14 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Hi Benjamin,

On 14 Feb 2011, at 16:52, Benjamin Young wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 It's currently possible to include space characters in View names, so your 
 map/reduce URL can (actually) look like this:
 /db/_design/app/_view/
 (there are 5 spaces at the end of that partial URL)
 
 Encoded it would look like this:
 /db/_design/app/_view/%20%20%20%20%20
 
 Needless to say this could be potentially quite confusing--though I suppose 
 we could consider it an obfuscation option. :/
 
 Should this be considered a bug and avoided in future views? or just 
 considered an option that one should be careful when using?
 
 This came to my attention as Futon currently adds %20's to the names when 
 displayed in dropdowns. Futon2, however, doesn't currently do that--making it 
 nearly impossible to click the name of the view above--it at least looks like 
 a bug in the UI.
 
 Additionally, when editing documents with a view named with all spaces, the 
 keys are displayed as un-viewable whitespace until you edit that chunk. In 
 Futon2 it's currently impossible to edit that piece of the document (as you 
 can't click it).
 
 As I'm working on Futon2, I'm wanting to determine what's the best way to 
 handle spaces in view names. Should they be removed as an option for that 
 portion of the URL going forward? Should Futon2 escape them in any visual 
 reference to them (as Futon1 currently does in most cases)?
 
 Just wanted to get some discussion on this before I picked a way forward. :)

Thanks for bringing this up. I think we should not allow spaces in view names.

Cheers
Jan
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Re: Spaces in View Names

2011-02-14 Thread Gabriel Farrell
If there's a use case for including spaces in view names (I haven't
thought of one yet) we could meet that while avoiding whitespace-only
names and other tricky issues by trimming leading and trailing spaces
before creation.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jan Lehnardt j...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi Benjamin,

 On 14 Feb 2011, at 16:52, Benjamin Young wrote:

 Hi all,

 It's currently possible to include space characters in View names, so your 
 map/reduce URL can (actually) look like this:
 /db/_design/app/_view/
 (there are 5 spaces at the end of that partial URL)

 Encoded it would look like this:
 /db/_design/app/_view/%20%20%20%20%20

 Needless to say this could be potentially quite confusing--though I suppose 
 we could consider it an obfuscation option. :/

 Should this be considered a bug and avoided in future views? or just 
 considered an option that one should be careful when using?

 This came to my attention as Futon currently adds %20's to the names when 
 displayed in dropdowns. Futon2, however, doesn't currently do that--making 
 it nearly impossible to click the name of the view above--it at least looks 
 like a bug in the UI.

 Additionally, when editing documents with a view named with all spaces, the 
 keys are displayed as un-viewable whitespace until you edit that chunk. In 
 Futon2 it's currently impossible to edit that piece of the document (as you 
 can't click it).

 As I'm working on Futon2, I'm wanting to determine what's the best way to 
 handle spaces in view names. Should they be removed as an option for that 
 portion of the URL going forward? Should Futon2 escape them in any visual 
 reference to them (as Futon1 currently does in most cases)?

 Just wanted to get some discussion on this before I picked a way forward. :)

 Thanks for bringing this up. I think we should not allow spaces in view names.

 Cheers
 Jan
 --