Re: coming out for JSF + Struts

2004-09-28 Thread Thomas L Roche
Tom Roche Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:49:45 -0500
 summary: McClanahan should clearly state *in some major
 publication*

OK, mebbe it'll get cited in some major publication :-)

 * that JSF does/will not replace Struts

 * how JSF and Struts will likely tend to specialize, in future

 * how probable specializations will complement (and compete) in
   webapp development

Ted Husted Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:28:17 -0500
 I think either of us would rather be developing Struts than
 evangelizing Struts.

Tom Roche Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:00:00 -0500
 This is not about evangelizing: it's about clarifying the
 relationship between 2 large parts of J2EE's future, and correcting
 some (apparently) false perceptions.

So I am pleased to note:

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/craigmcc/20040927#struts_or_jsf_struts_and
 It should be clear by now that there is overlap between Struts and
 JSF, particularly in the view tier. Over time, JSF will continue to
 evolve in the view tier area, and I'm going to be encouraging the
 Struts community to focus on value adds in the controller and model
 tiers.

Now I can whack the locals who say Struts? Isn't that what Faces
replaces? :-)

Thanks, Tom hoping to tool for Tiles this rev, at last Roche


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Re: coming out for JSF + Struts

2004-09-28 Thread Craig McClanahan
You cannot *imagine* how many people have asked me to clarify this
relationship :-).

I hope this blog entry helps, but (as I noted) the future of Struts is
decided here, not by anything I, or anyone else, might opine
elsewhere.

Craig


On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:15:57 -0400, Thomas L Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tom Roche Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:49:45 -0500
  summary: McClanahan should clearly state *in some major
  publication*
 
 OK, mebbe it'll get cited in some major publication :-)
 
  * that JSF does/will not replace Struts
 
  * how JSF and Struts will likely tend to specialize, in future
 
  * how probable specializations will complement (and compete) in
webapp development
 
 Ted Husted Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:28:17 -0500
  I think either of us would rather be developing Struts than
  evangelizing Struts.
 
 Tom Roche Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:00:00 -0500
  This is not about evangelizing: it's about clarifying the
  relationship between 2 large parts of J2EE's future, and correcting
  some (apparently) false perceptions.
 
 So I am pleased to note:
 
 http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/craigmcc/20040927#struts_or_jsf_struts_and
  It should be clear by now that there is overlap between Struts and
  JSF, particularly in the view tier. Over time, JSF will continue to
  evolve in the view tier area, and I'm going to be encouraging the
  Struts community to focus on value adds in the controller and model
  tiers.
 
 Now I can whack the locals who say Struts? Isn't that what Faces
 replaces? :-)
 
 Thanks, Tom hoping to tool for Tiles this rev, at last Roche
 
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