Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 June 2014 16:46, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I was looking to build a package on epel7 that is relying on
 jansson-devel.
 
  The -devel subpackage is generated as normally from the main jansson
  package, but in case of epel7 the resulting rpm is included in the
  Workstation-optional channel:
 
 
 http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Workstation-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/
 
  Have these packages being left out intentionally or not?
  Is there any chance to see these packages added in Koji? Otherwise
 building
  for epel7 can get really complicated.

 I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
 causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
 -devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.


Opened this one, hope it's correct:

https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5915

Thanks  regards,
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EPEL epel beta report: 20140603 changes

2014-06-03 Thread EPEL Beta Report
Compose started at Tue Jun  3 08:15:02 UTC 2014

New package: hawkey-0.4.16-1.el7
 Library providing simplified C and Python API to libsolv

New package: ldapdiff-1.4.1-4.el7
 Tool for incremental LDAP directory updates based on ldif files

New package: libewf-20130416-1.el7
 Library for the Expert Witness Compression Format (EWF)

New package: libtelnet-0.21-5.el7
 TELNET protocol parsing framework

New package: rear-1.16.1-1.el7
 Relax-and-Recover is a Linux disaster recovery and system 
migration tool


Updated Packages:

gsoap-2.8.16-3.el7
--
* Mon Jun 02 2014 Mattias Ellert mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se - 2.8.16-3
- Fix for IPv4 only hosts


libsolv-0.6.1-1.git6d968f1.el7
--
* Tue May 27 2014 Aleš Kozumplík a...@redhat.com - 0.6.1-1.git6d968f1
- Rebase to upstream 6d968f1
- Fix RhBug:1049209

* Fri Apr 25 2014 Jan Silhan jsil...@redhat.com - 0.6.1-0.gitf78f5de
- Rebase to 0.6.0, upstream commit f78f5de.

* Thu Apr 24 2014 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com - 0.6.0-0.git05baf54.1
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_2.1

* Wed Apr 09 2014 Jan Silhan jsil...@redhat.com - 0.6.0-0.git05baf54
- Rebase to 0.6.0, upstream commit 05baf54.

* Mon Dec 16 2013 Aleš Kozumplík akozu...@redhat.com - 0.4.1-1.gitbcedc98
- Rebase upstream bcedc98
- Fix RhBug:1051917.

* Mon Dec 16 2013 Aleš Kozumplík akozu...@redhat.com - 0.4.1-0.gita8e47f1
- Rebase to 0.4.1, upstream commit a8e47f1.

* Fri Nov 22 2013 Zdenek Pavlas zpav...@redhat.com - 0.4.0-2.git4442b7f
- Rebase to 0.4.0, upstream commit 4442b7f.
- support DELTA_LOCATION_BASE for completeness


php-horde-content-2.0.4-1.el7
-
* Tue Jun 03 2014 Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org - 2.0.4-1
- Update to 2.0.4
- run test suite during build


python-django-evolution-0.7.2-1.el7
---
* Mon Jun 02 2014 Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com 0.7.2-1
- New upstream release 0.7.2
- 
http://downloads.reviewboard.org/releases/django-evolution/0.7/django_evolution-0.7.2.NEWS
- Fixed a crash from no-op column renames on PostgreSQL


python-qpid-0.26-1.el7
--
* Fri May 30 2014 Darryl L. Pierce dpie...@redhat.com - 0.26-1
- Rebased on Qpid 0.26.


python-qpid_messaging-0.26-2.el7

* Mon Jun 02 2014 Darryl L. Pierce dpie...@redhat.com - 0.26-2
- Updated dependencies to use virtual qpid packages.
- Resolves: BZ#1103572


qpid-qmf-0.24-21.el7

* Mon Jun 02 2014 Darryl L. Pierce dpie...@redhat.com - 0.24-21
- Missed the arch reference on one requires.

* Mon Jun 02 2014 Darryl L. Pierce dpie...@redhat.com - 0.24-20
- Added arch reference to qpid client requirement.
- Resolves: BZ#1103373

* Fri May 23 2014 David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com - 0.24-19
- rebuild for boost 1.55.0

* Thu May 22 2014 Darryl L. Pierce dpie...@redhat.com - 0.24-18
- Changed dependencies on qpid-cpp-client to be qpid(client).


socket_wrapper-1.1.0-1.el7
--
* Mon Jun 02 2014 - Andreas Schneider a...@redhat.com - 1.1.0-1
- Update to version 1.1.0.



Summary:
Added Packages: 5
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 8
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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2 June 2014 16:46, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
 causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
 -devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.

 Opened this one, hope it's correct:

 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5915

Well actually I meant to ask RHEL release engineering to add
jansson-devel to the Server repository along with the main jansson
package.  It seems kind of silly to have the main package in Server
and the -devel package in Workstation.

You can file a bug with RHEL rel-eng here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Linux%207component=relengversion=7.0

Of course, supporting Workstation in general would be very nice, so
your other ticket is warranted, but I think getting this particular
problem fixed on the RHEL side would still be a good idea regardless
of the outcome of that.

-T.C.
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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
On 3 June 2014 11:29, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can file a bug with RHEL rel-eng here:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Linux%207component=relengversion=7.0

 Of course, supporting Workstation in general would be very nice, so
 your other ticket is warranted, but I think getting this particular
 problem fixed on the RHEL side would still be a good idea regardless
 of the outcome of that.


Bug filed with an edited text from the releng one.

Regards,
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EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

2014-06-03 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 773  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6
 120  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0440/fwsnort-1.6.4-1.el6
 104  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0590/oath-toolkit-2.0.2-4.el6
  64  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1011/php-ZendFramework-1.12.5-1.el6
  18  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1414/gajim-0.14.4-4.el6
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1471/chicken-4.8.0.6-2.el6
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1477/drupal7-views-3.8-1.el6
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1475/moodle-2.4.10-1.el6
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1522/check-mk-1.2.4p2-2.el6
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1536/xmlsec1-1.2.19-3.el6
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1563/mono-2.10.8-2.el6,libgdiplus-2.10-1.el6


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing

libgdiplus-2.10-1.el6
libmediainfo-0.7.69-1.el6
mediainfo-0.7.69-1.el6
mono-2.10.8-2.el6
php-horde-content-2.0.4-1.el6
python-django-evolution-0.7.2-1.el6
ratools-0.5.2-3.el6
xpdf-3.04-2.el6

Details about builds:



 libgdiplus-2.10-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1563)
 An implementation of the GDI+ API

Update Information:

- update

ChangeLog:

* Mon Jun  2 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.10-1
- 2.10 release




 libmediainfo-0.7.69-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1567)
 Library for supplies technical and tag information about a video or audio file

Update Information:

Update to 0.7.69

ChangeLog:

* Tue Jun  3 2014 Vasiliy N. Glazov vasc...@gmail.com 0.7.69-1
- Update to 0.7.69
* Fri May 23 2014 Vasiliy N. Glazov vasc...@gmail.com 0.7.68-2
- Update for tinyxml2 changes




 mediainfo-0.7.69-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1565)
 Supplies technical and tag information about a video or audio file (CLI)

Update Information:

Update to 0.7.69

ChangeLog:

* Tue Jun  3 2014 Vasiliy N. Glazov vasc...@gmail.com 0.7.69-1
- Update to 0.7.69




 mono-2.10.8-2.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1563)
 A .NET runtime environment

Update Information:

- update

ChangeLog:

* Mon Jun  2 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.10.8-2
- rebuild against mono-core
* Mon Jun  2 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.10.8-1
- Update to 2.10.8
- bootstrap build for epel




 php-horde-content-2.0.4-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1568)
 Tagging application

Update Information:

* [jan] Fix date format for 'created' column.


ChangeLog:

* Tue Jun  3 2014 Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org - 2.0.4-1
- Update to 2.0.4
- run test suite during build




 python-django-evolution-0.7.2-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1561)
 Schema evolution for Django

Update Information:

Fixed a crash from no-op column renames on PostgreSQL
Fixed a crash from no-op column renames on MySQL

Note to Review Board users: this will fix an issue when upgrading from 1.5.x to 
2.0.

Re: EPEL Maintaining libntlm for ppc64

2014-06-03 Thread Christopher Meng
NO.

Feel free to do that.
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Re: Current FTBFS packages (was Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21)

2014-06-03 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 09:42:02PM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Till Maas  wrote:
 
  gdome2   sundaram
 
 
 I have retired this already.  What more should I do?

You need to retire it in pkgdb. Btw. the retiring reason could be
improved in the dead.package file.

Regards
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Re: Current FTBFS packages (was Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21)

2014-06-03 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 23:54:10 +0200
Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 04:36:28PM -0400, Al Dunsmuir wrote:
 
  Please do not start deleting ppc32-only packages.
  
  A  few  of  us  would  like  to resurrect ppc32, likely initially
  as a Fedora   Remix.   Deleting  ppc32-only  packages  just  adds
  more work to that effort.
 
 ok, but I guess there is no package left that is not properly
 configured in primary koji. If you continue with this effort, please
 re-open the rel-eng ticket in my other e-mail regarding yaboot.

In the past it wasn't possible to block secondary arch only package in
primary koji after it was introduced there, because during some releng
action (branching, mass rebuild?) it affected also the secondary koji.
Or pkgdb, maybe both. The result was that secondary arch only package
was not accessible for commits and blocked in secondary koji and we
had to resolve it manually with dgilmore. So please be careful. I think
the problem was that pkgdb had no information about arches, it worked
globally.


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Re: Fwd: Ophaning lcms(1)

2014-06-03 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi,

On 06/02/2014 10:39 PM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm orphaning lcms, this package has seen few security issue and upstream
 claim it's  deprecated over lcms2
 
 rhel 7 doesn't depends on it for the few package, so it might be an option
 not to build lcms support for certain package
 
 
 # repoquery --whatrequires liblcms.so.1 --source
 DevIL-1.7.8-16.fc20.src.rpm

I've just kicked of a build of DevIL which drops the use of lcms, so DevIL
can be taken of the list.

Regards,

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Re: Fwd: Ophaning lcms(1)

2014-06-03 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 10:39:56PM +0200, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm orphaning lcms, this package has seen few security issue and upstream
 claim it's  deprecated over lcms2
 
 # repoquery --whatrequires liblcms.so.1 --source
 entangle-0.5.3-2.fc20.src.rpm

FYI the repo you're pointing to is outdated - current Fedora 20 updates
is on version 0.6.0, which uses lcms2 instead.

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Re: Fwd: Ophaning lcms(1)

2014-06-03 Thread Sandro Mani


On 02.06.2014 23:07, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 10:39:56PM +0200, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:

python-pillow-2.2.1-4.fc20.src.rpm


This one can be fixed by upgrading to 2.3.0 (or greater.  2.4.0 is current).
2.4.0 is what's in rawhide.  Not sure if that's safe to push back to f20 and
earlier.  (Although I see that there's an insecure use of tempfile CVE that
was ficed in 2.3.1 so maybe it makes sense to update even if there is API
breakage.)

@smani: Do you have more information here?

-Toshio
The API has never been broken as far as I can tell. I guess we could 
update to 2.4.0 (although given the number of packages which depend on 
pillow I wasn't planning to do so in a stable release), or otherwise we 
could backport [1]. But, more generally, why introduce such a change in 
a stable release? Can't lcms just be removed for F21+?


Sandro

[1] https://github.com/python-pillow/Pillow/pull/380
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Env and Stack WG meeting (2014-06-03)

2014-06-03 Thread Marcela Mašláňová

No agenda, meeting cancelled.

Marcela
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Re: Build lua libraries also for compat-lua?

2014-06-03 Thread Jan Kaluža

On 05/29/2014 06:31 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:17:39AM +0200, Jan Kaluža wrote:

Hi,

I'm playing with an idea of building lua libraries against compat-lua to
allow luajit working with them. My initial motivation for this is that there
are projects which don't work with Lua-5.2 and developers for various
reasons don't want to port it to lua-5.2 yet (for example Prosody package).

I'm OK with creating bugs and patches against some basic lua modules
(basically the ones I need myself for Prosody :) ), but at first I wanted to
ask Lua people here what do they think about it?


   Hi,

   Was there any progress with this?  I'd love to see working Prosody package 
in F20.



I have persuaded one proven packager to do this change in Fedora Rawhide 
and it looks there is no problem with it and Prosody is working in 
Rawhide now. I think I will ask him to backport this into F20, so I can 
rebuild Prosody in F20 too.


Regards,
Jan Kaluza

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Re: Fwd: Ophaning lcms(1)

2014-06-03 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 10:39:56PM +0200, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:

  # repoquery --whatrequires liblcms.so.1 --source
  cinepaint-1.4-5.fc20.src.rpm
  cmyktool-0.1.6-0.6.pre1.fc20.src.rpm
  DevIL-1.7.8-16.fc20.src.rpm
  entangle-0.5.3-2.fc20.src.rpm
  f-spot-0.8.2-11.fc20.src.rpm
  geeqie-1.1-13.fc20.src.rpm
  gimp-separate+-0.5.8-10.fc20.src.rpm
  hylafax+-5.5.4-1.fc20.src.rpm
  libmng-1.0.10-12.fc20.src.rpm
  mate-image-viewer-1.6.2-2.fc20.src.rpm
  oyranos-0.4.0-12.fc20.src.rpm
  photoprint-0.4.2-0.12.pre2.fc20.src.rpm
  python-pillow-2.2.1-4.fc20.src.rpm
  rawstudio-2.0-12.fc20.src.rpm
  rawstudio-2.0-12.fc20.src.rpm
  sK1-0.9.1-0.8.pre_rev730.fc20.src.rpm

 Ther
 inkscape (maintained by: limb, duffy, lkundrak)
 inkscape-0.48.4-16.fc21.src requires lcms-devel =
 1.19-11.fc21

 rawstudio (maintained by: giallu)


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libmng uses lcms2 in rawhide, and I just updated inkscape to do the same.

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[Test-Announce] June 2014 Rawhide validation matrices are up!

2014-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey folks! Just a note that I've put up the validation matrices for June
2014 (thanks pwhalen and satellit for the reminders):

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Rawhide_2014_06_Install
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Rawhide_2014_06_Base

please enter results from Rawhide testing during May in these pages, not
the 2014_05 ones. Those are archived for posterity now. :)

In case anyone needs a refresher on this testing -
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-April/120792.html ,
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-April/120931.html .

I've transferred the 201406 results folks had put in the 201405 pages
across.

of course, anyone can create these pages, not just me! Here's a
pseudo-SOP. There's no template - go into the edit history of the
current month's page and find the 'clean' version of the page - the last
edit before any actual results are added. Copy and paste that as the
basis of the new page. Change all occurrences of the month's name and
search/replace occurrences of '2014xx' (e.g. I replaced '201405' with
'201406' this time). That should do it.
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retrace server broken?

2014-06-03 Thread Neal Becker
-- Running report_uReport ---
Server responded with an error: 'Validation failed: Element 'frames' is missing'
reporter-ureport failed with exit code 1
('report_uReport' exited with 1)

--- Running report_EmergencyAnalysis ---
Compressing data
Sending /var/tmp/oops-2014-06-03-13:41:11-7574-0.tar.gz to 
https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/dumpdirs/new/
Successfully sent /var/tmp/oops-2014-06-03-13:41:11-7574-0.tar.gz to 
https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/dumpdirs/new/
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN
htmlhead
title500 Internal Server Error/title
/headbody
h1Internal Server Error/h1
pThe server encountered an internal error or
misconfiguration and was unable to complete
your request./p
pPlease contact the server administrator,
 webmas...@fedoraproject.org and inform them of the time the error occurred,
and anything you might have done that may have
caused the error./p
pMore information about this error may be available
in the server error log./p
hr
addressApache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at retrace.fedoraproject.org Port 
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Re: retrace server broken?

2014-06-03 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:

 -- Running report_uReport ---
 Server responded with an error: 'Validation failed: Element 'frames' is
 missing'
 reporter-ureport failed with exit code 1
 ('report_uReport' exited with 1)


I'm seeing the same, and have been for several days.  Seems it's been
reported at https://github.com/abrt/abrt/issues/817

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Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Docker Container Image

2014-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-04-11 at 14:19 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
 = Proposed Self Contained Change: Docker Container Image = 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Docker_Container_Image
 
 Change owner(s):  Lokesh Mandvekar l...@fedoraproject.org, Dennis Gilmore 
 den...@ausil.us
 
 This is Fedora running inside Docker. Currently, there are non-official 
 images 
 in the docker index, but we'd like them to really come out of release 
 engineering. 
 
 == Detailed Description ==
 The public docker registry [1] hosts many fedora images [2] including an 
 unprefixed (semi-official) image [3]. However, this image doesn't have 
 rel-eng 
 approval which would be required for a fully official image. 
 
 == Scope ==
 * Proposal owners: The proposal owner needs to build the image tarballs with 
 the official kickstart scripts and make them available to docker's stackbrew 
 repo, which is used by the Docker maintainers to build unprefixed images.
 
 Release Engineering approval/intervention would be needed at some point 
 (details still TBD)
 
 * Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) 
 * Release engineering: Official Release Engineering image approval. Process 
 still TBD. 
 * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) 

NECRO ALERT

So, this adds yet another to our rather teetering pile of deliverables
to consider the relative importance / status of, and for releng to
generate zillions of times per cycle.

What Fedora exactly is the image going to contain? Fedora Server?
Fedora Cloud? Will it be a part of either of those products? If not,
what is its status, exactly? Who's responsible for it? Is it considered
a primary or frontline or whatever Fedora deliverable? Who's going to
test it? How's it going to be promoted in relation to all our other
deliverables?

(I'm late on this, and I see the Change has been approved already, but
I'm not sure if any of the above questions were answered).
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Re: Current FTBFS packages (was Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21)

2014-06-03 Thread Tom Callaway
On 06/01/2014 05:24 AM, Till Maas wrote:
 R-bigmemory  spot, spot

RETIRED

 log4net  spot, cicku, spot  

Fixed and built in rawhide:

log4net-1.2.13-1.fc21

 netgospot, spot 

RETIRED

 rpc2 spot, nhorman, spot

Fixed and built in rawhide:

rpc2-2.10-9.fc21

 tkimgspot, spot 

Fixed and built in rawhide (I hate this package so much, it is the
definition of crufty):

tkimg-1.4-16.fc21

 xsupplicant  spot, spot 

Fixed and built in rawhide:

xsupplicant-2.2.0-8.fc21

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Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Enable Software Collections

2014-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2014-04-20 at 18:56 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Jaroslav Reznik wrote, on behalf of Matthias Clasen:
  The Software Collections repositories will be enabled by default.
 
 So we now allow shipping the configuration for third-party repositories, 
 even enabled by default? Is April 1st still not over yet?
 
 If you want those packages in Fedora, they need to get into the Fedora 
 repository.

THREAD NECRO ALERT

I wouldn't put it as strongly as Kevin, but I do have some concerns
about the implications here. Notably,
https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/docs/licensing/ states:

We do not review source or packages for suitability of purpose,
quality, or licensing

Fedora provides rather stronger guarantees on that front in our
'official' repositories. It seems like SCL has more or less the same
policies and intents as Fedora, but is explicitly less proactive about
'policing' them. It therefore seems like this feature increases the risk
to Fedora as a whole of 'blessing' badly broken or incorrectly licensed
software.

It would be nice to emphasize the distinction between software from the
Fedora repositories and software from the SCL project, at least. yum and
dnf do this to at least a limited extent already (you can see what repo
a package is coming from, when you install it), but have we considered
whether that's sufficient, and if it would be worthwhile to try and
improve on it?
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Re: Current FTBFS packages (was Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21)

2014-06-03 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Tuesday, June 3, 2014, 2:37:49 AM, Dan Horák wrote:
 On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 23:54:10 +0200
 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 04:36:28PM -0400, Al Dunsmuir wrote:
 
  Please do not start deleting ppc32-only packages.
  
  A  few  of  us  would  like  to resurrect ppc32, likely initially
  as a Fedora   Remix.   Deleting  ppc32-only  packages  just  adds
  more work to that effort.
 
 ok, but I guess there is no package left that is not properly
 configured in primary koji. If you continue with this effort, please
 re-open the rel-eng ticket in my other e-mail regarding yaboot.

 In the past it wasn't possible to block secondary arch only package in
 primary koji after it was introduced there, because during some releng
 action (branching, mass rebuild?) it affected also the secondary koji.
 Or pkgdb, maybe both. The result was that secondary arch only package
 was not accessible for commits and blocked in secondary koji and we
 had to resolve it manually with dgilmore. So please be careful. I think
 the problem was that pkgdb had no information about arches, it worked
 globally.

Thanks for the heads-up!

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Re: Fwd: Ophaning lcms(1)

2014-06-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/lcms/bugs/all lists a CVE.  If
lcms-11 is no longer going to be maintained in Fedora that (and any
other) security flaws won't be addressed.  It's therefore advisable
for them to update to the new version of lcms if feasible.  The
affected packager would likely want to take ownership of lcms-1 and
patch the security issues.

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Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Docker Container Image

2014-06-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 12:35:00PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 What Fedora exactly is the image going to contain? Fedora Server?
 Fedora Cloud? Will it be a part of either of those products? If not,
 what is its status, exactly? Who's responsible for it? Is it considered
 a primary or frontline or whatever Fedora deliverable? Who's going to
 test it? How's it going to be promoted in relation to all our other
 deliverables?

Those are some excellent questions. Tentative answers:

 - It will contain its own spin of Fedora.
 - The Fedora Cloud WG will be responsible initially, but long-term it
   might be better in Env  Stacks.
 - Primary or frontline or whatever -- um, we need to get back to you on
that.
 - Cloud WG will test it; see above.
 - The intention is to 

 (I'm late on this, and I see the Change has been approved already, but
 I'm not sure if any of the above questions were answered).

Yeah, I don't think definitively. I made a ticket
https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/65 and we'll talk about it Thursday.


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Re: Fwd: Ophaning lcms(1)

2014-06-03 Thread Sandro Mani


On 03.06.2014 23:20, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/lcms/bugs/all lists a CVE.  If
lcms-11 is no longer going to be maintained in Fedora that (and any
other) security flaws won't be addressed.  It's therefore advisable
for them to update to the new version of lcms if feasible.  The
affected packager would likely want to take ownership of lcms-1 and
patch the security issues.

-Toshio
If it is a matter of patching security issues for the remaining lifetime 
of F19 and F20, I don't mind doing so if no-one of the current 
maintainers will.


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Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-06-03)

2014-06-03 Thread Matthew Miller
Reposted from
http://fedoramagazine.org/five-things-in-fedora-this-week-2014-06-03/


Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series
highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week.
It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links
to each. Here are the five things for June 3rd, 2014:


New Fedora Project Leader
-

So, there is a new Fedora Project Leader, and, despite inital rumors,
it’s not an anthropomorphic hotdog. I'm excited to be able to say: it's
me. I wrote a blog post about it: First Thoughts as Fedora Project
Leader.

Right now, the practical consequence is that this is going to be a more
terse 5tFTW than usual. (I’m sure there will be more consequences
later.)

And, of course, thanks again to outgoing FPL Robyn Bergeron! Don't miss
her parting thoughts blog post.

  * http://fedoramagazine.org/is-this-the-new-fedora-project-leader/
  * http://fedoramagazine.org/first-thoughts-as-fedora-project-leader/
  * http://robyn.io/2014/06/03/new-fpl/


Bodhi2 and Taskotron Activity Day
-

Bodhi is Fedora’s system for pushing out security and bugfix updates.
Taskotron is our new system for QA automation. The former is getting a
much-needed update and integration with the latter at the Bodhi2 and
Taskotron Fedora Activity Days going on right now in Denver, Colorado.
Fedora Infrastructure Lead Kevin Fenzi has reports from day 1 and day
2.

  * http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org
  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Taskotron
  * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Bodhi2_Taskotron_2014
  * http://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2014/06/01/bodhi2-taskotron-fad-day-1/
  * http://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2014/06/03/bodhi2-taskotron-fad-day-2/


Fedora Server / CentOS SLS
--

As part of the new community-based direction, the CentOS project has
several new Special Interest Groups around Storage, Virtualization,
and so on. There is a proposal to create a Simplified Linux Server
(SLS) SIG. This has the mission to deliver

 [...] turnkey CentOS-based solutions that are managed via a web and/or
 REST-based interface. The focus is on taking the various application
 silos and providing a cohesive solution to simplify deployment and
 maintenance.

This has a lot of overlap with the upcoming Fedora Server, and the
groups working on each had a joint meeting to discuss common goals and
sharing effort. It looks like this will be a productive collaboration
for users and developers of both distros.

  * http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup
  * 
http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/SLS]%20(not%20to%20be%20confused,%20of%20course,%20with%201992's%20Softlanding%20Linux%20System](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
  * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server
  * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2014-May/001135.html


Fedora Regional Community Index
---

This one isn’t new, but it’s one of those things that’s been around for
a while which many people may not be aware of: the Region-Specific
Fedora Websites index, at http://fedoracommunity.org/. This site lists
different domains and subdomains with local resources all around the
world. Check it out to find groups in your area which you might not
have been aware of, or just to see what Fedora looks like around the
globe.

  * http://fedoracommunity.org/


FUDCon Beijing 2014 Reports
---

FUDCon APAC (Asia-Pacific) was held last month in Beijing, China.
Reports are in from Aditya Patawari, Ankur Sinha, Somvannda Kong,
Nitesh Narayan Lal, Jiří Eischmann, and Robert Mayr.

  * http://devel.adityapatawari.com/2014/05/fudcon-beijing-day-1/
  * http://ankursinha.in/blog/2014/05/29/fudcon-beijing-day-1-and-day-0/
  * 
http://fedoracambodia.wordpress.com/2014/05/31/my-first-trip-of-fedora-project-to-fudcon-beijing-china/
  * 
http://niteshnarayanlal.blogspot.com/2014/05/fudcon-beijing-2014-kick-off.html
  * http://eischmann.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/fudcon-apac-2014-in-beijing/
  * 
http://morefedora.blogspot.com/2014/06/fudcon-apac-beijing-day-0-robert-mayr.html



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[Bug 1103668] perl-DBD-Pg-3.3.0 is available

2014-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1103668

Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-DBD-Pg-3.3.0-1.fc21
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2014-06-03 04:44:34



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[Bug 1104075] New: perl-Crypt-CipherSaber-1.00-13.fc21 FTBFS: Failed test 'autogenerating and autoreading IV should also round-trip'

2014-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104075

Bug ID: 1104075
   Summary: perl-Crypt-CipherSaber-1.00-13.fc21 FTBFS: Failed test
'autogenerating and autoreading IV should also
round-trip'
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Crypt-CipherSaber
  Assignee: xav...@bachelot.org
  Reporter: ppi...@redhat.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
xav...@bachelot.org
   External Bug ID: CPAN 28370



perl-Crypt-CipherSaber-1.00-13.fc21 sometimes fails to build in F21 due to
tests:

#   Failed test 'autogenerating and autoreading IV should also round-trip'
#   at t/fh_encrypt.t line 115.
# Looks like you failed 1 test of 6.
t/fh_encrypt.t  
Dubious, test returned 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
Failed

This happens only sometimes.

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[Bug 1104134] New: perl-Test-Unit-0.25-17.fc21 FTBFS: t/assert.t test fails randomly

2014-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104134

Bug ID: 1104134
   Summary: perl-Test-Unit-0.25-17.fc21 FTBFS: t/assert.t test
fails randomly
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Test-Unit
  Assignee: xav...@bachelot.org
  Reporter: ppi...@redhat.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
xav...@bachelot.org
   External Bug ID: CPAN 87017



perl-Test-Unit-0.25-17.fc21 fails to build randomly due to test in F21:

[...]
not ok ERROR test_assert_deep_equals
t/tlib/AssertTest.pm:500 - test_assert_deep_equals(Class::Inner::__A20)
Expected Test::Unit::Failure `(?^mx:^Structures\ begin\ differing\ at: $ \n
\S*\s* \$a .* = .* (?-x:HASH)  .* $ \n
\S*\s* \$b .* = .* (?-x:not exist))', got `Structures begin differing
at:
  $a-{john}{spouse}{spouse}{name} = 'John Doe'
  $b-{john}{spouse}{spouse}{name} = 'Baby Doll'
'
ok PASS test_assert_str_equals
ok PASS test_fail_assert_not_null
ok PASS test_succeed_assert_null
ok PASS test_assert_raises
ok PASS test_assert_equals
ok PASS test_ok_not_equals
ok PASS test_numericness
ok PASS test_success_assert_not_equals
ok PASS test_multi_assert
ok PASS test_ok_boolean
ok PASS test_fail_assert_not_equals
ok PASS test_assert_equals_null
ok PASS test_fail_assert_null
ok PASS test_assert
ok PASS test_ok_equals
ok PASS test_assert_matches
ok PASS test_succeed_assert_not_null
ok PASS test_ok_bad_args
ok PASS test_fail
Failed 1/40 subtests 

Test Summary Report
---
t/assert.t (Wstat: 0 Tests: 40 Failed: 1)
  Failed test:  21

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[Bug 1104137] New: perl-YAML-0.92-1.fc21 FTBFS: t/release-pod-syntax.t fails if perl_bootstrap is enabled

2014-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104137

Bug ID: 1104137
   Summary: perl-YAML-0.92-1.fc21 FTBFS: t/release-pod-syntax.t
fails if perl_bootstrap is enabled
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-YAML
  Assignee: st...@silug.org
  Reporter: ppi...@redhat.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
psab...@redhat.com, st...@silug.org



perl-YAML-0.92-1.fc21 fails to boot-strap:

t/regexp.t ... ok
Can't locate Test/Pod.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Test::Pod module)
(@INC contains: /home/test/fedora/perl-YAML/YAML-0.92/blib/lib
/home/test/fedora/perl-YAML/YAML-0.92/blib/arch /usr/local/lib64/perl5
/usr/local/share/perl5 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl
/usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 .) at
t/release-pod-syntax.t line 12.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/release-pod-syntax.t line 12.
t/release-pod-syntax.t ...
Dubious, test returned 2 (wstat 512, 0x200)

Obviously the dependency on Test::Pod is not optional when running release
tests with make test RELEASE_TESTING=1.

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[Bug 1104137] perl-YAML-0.92-1.fc21 FTBFS: t/release-pod-syntax.t fails if perl_bootstrap is enabled

2014-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104137

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
   Assignee|st...@silug.org |ppi...@redhat.com



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[Bug 1104137] perl-YAML-0.92-1.fc21 FTBFS: t/release-pod-syntax.t fails if perl_bootstrap is enabled

2014-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104137

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

URL||https://github.com/ingydotn
   ||et/yaml-pm/issues/24



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[Bug 1104137] perl-YAML-0.92-1.fc21 FTBFS: t/release-pod-syntax.t fails if perl_bootstrap is enabled

2014-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104137

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-YAML-0.92-2.fc21
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2014-06-03 07:34:33



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[Bug 1103670] perl-File-pushd-1.007 is available

2014-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1103670

Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-File-pushd-1.007-1.fc2
   ||1
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2014-06-03 08:21:32



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[Bug 813532] RFE , please build EPEL6 perl-AppConfig

2014-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813532

Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |CANTFIX
Last Closed||2014-06-03 08:40:57



--- Comment #1 from Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch ---
perl-AppConfig seems to be in main RHEL now.

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[389-devel] Please review: [389 Project] #47763: winsync plugin modify is broken

2014-06-03 Thread Noriko Hosoi

https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47763

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47763/0001-Ticket-47763-winsync-plugin-modify-is-broken.patch

Thanks to Carsten Grzemba for the patch. Made minimum changes such as 
replacing the direct access to the bv_len in Slapi_Value with 
slapi_value_get_length.


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Re: Coding Style

2014-06-03 Thread Kamil Paral
 Outside any header requirements or directive documentation requirements,
 are there any changes to PEP8 that folks want to make? If so, please
 list the exceptions and why you think they should be adopted.

 E251 =

libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:247:67: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:247:69: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:293:13: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:293:15: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:293:31: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:293:33: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:426:28: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:426:30: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:427:33: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:427:35: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:428:29: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals
libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:428:31: E251 unexpected 
spaces around keyword / parameter equals


def _is_comment_needed(old_result, comment_time, result, time_span = None):

-or-

outcome = _post_testresult(self.bodhi_api, detail.item,
env_data['checkname'],
detail.outcome,
url = http://example.com;,
doreport = input_data['doreport'],
arch = detail.keyvals.get('arch', 'noarch'),
)


Josef is used to add spaces between keyword name and its value in method 
definitions or method calls. Personally, I find it more readable according to 
PEP8 (with no space), but Josef claims the opposite :)


 E128 

libtaskotron/check.py:94:17: E128 continuation line under-indented for visual 
indent
libtaskotron/check.py:97:21: E128 continuation line under-indented for visual 
indent
libtaskotron/check.py:209:21: E128 continuation line under-indented for visual 
indent


raise exc.TaskotronValueError('output' parameter must be a 
mutable sequence of strings. Yours was: %s % type(output))


This is a braindead check. You have a limited line length, and it is happens 
that you need to type the opening bracket shortly before the end of the line, 
PEP8 imagines you end up providing the rest of the code as a short column of 
text underneath it. Like this:


raise exc.TaskotronValueError('output' parameter must be a 
  mutable sequence of strings. 
  Yours was: %s % type(output))

or you break the line immediately after the opening bracket, like this:

raise exc.TaskotronValueError(
'output' parameter must be a 
mutable sequence of strings. Yours was: %s % type(output))


Still, the most readable code I believe is the first one, against PEP8.


 E303 

libtaskotron/check.py:88:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)
libtaskotron/check.py:110:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)
libtaskotron/check.py:115:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)
libtaskotron/check.py:122:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)
libtaskotron/check.py:142:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)
libtaskotron/check.py:148:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)
libtaskotron/check.py:165:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)
libtaskotron/check.py:189:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)
libtaskotron/check.py:224:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)


This forbids you from adding two blank lines between class methods. Another 
braindead checks.


 E124 

libtaskotron/bodhi_utils.py:146:25: E124 closing bracket does not match visual 
indentation


log.warn(The build %s is a part of two different updates: '%s'
  and '%s'. That's probably a bug in Bodhi. % (build,
 failures[build]['title'], build2update[build]['title'])
)

Because PEP8 wants this:

log.warn(The build %s is a part of two different updates: '%s'
  and '%s'. That's probably a bug in Bodhi. % (build,
 failures[build]['title'], build2update[build]['title'])
 )

In a longer line of text, having the closing bracket really matching the 
opening one (the first example) is much easier on the eyes.


 E122 =


Re: Coding Style

2014-06-03 Thread Josef Skladanka
 But if there's a strong desire for more columns, I'll manage. Can't hinder
 the team, can I? :)

Also, we should mention that by default the maximal line length is set to 79, 
not 80.

Let's just set it to 80 (as we already use it in the code), and forget about 
the heretic 100 idea :)
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Re: Coding Style

2014-06-03 Thread Tim Flink
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:29:49 -0400 (EDT)
Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote:

  Outside any header requirements or directive documentation
  requirements, are there any changes to PEP8 that folks want to
  make? If so, please list the exceptions and why you think they
  should be adopted.
 
  E251 =

 Josef is used to add spaces between keyword name and its value in
 method definitions or method calls. Personally, I find it more
 readable according to PEP8 (with no space), but Josef claims the
 opposite :)

Personally, I agree with Josef on this one. My habit is to put the
spaces in there and I tend to find it a bit more readable but I don't
have any really strong feelings on it and have been training myself to
not put the spaces in there.

  E128 
 
 libtaskotron/check.py:94:17: E128 continuation line under-indented
 for visual indent libtaskotron/check.py:97:21: E128 continuation line
 under-indented for visual indent libtaskotron/check.py:209:21: E128
 continuation line under-indented for visual indent

snip

 Still, the most readable code I believe is the first one, against
 PEP8.

In my opinion, the first example is the least readable of the three and
I really don't like having code formatted like that.

  E303 
 
 libtaskotron/check.py:88:5: E303 too many blank lines (2)


 This forbids you from adding two blank lines between class methods.
 Another braindead checks.

Eh, I'm not all that partial to either point of view. They're different
ways of looking at things.

  E124 
 
 libtaskotron/bodhi_utils.py:146:25: E124 closing bracket does not
 match visual indentation
 
 
 log.warn(The build %s is a part of two different
 updates: '%s'  and '%s'. That's probably a bug in Bodhi. % (build,
  failures[build]['title'],
 build2update[build]['title']) )
 
 Because PEP8 wants this:
 
 log.warn(The build %s is a part of two different
 updates: '%s'  and '%s'. That's probably a bug in Bodhi. % (build,
  failures[build]['title'],
 build2update[build]['title']) )
 
 In a longer line of text, having the closing bracket really matching
 the opening one (the first example) is much easier on the eyes.

Honestly, I don't really notice things like this. I had to stare at the
two examples for a while before I realized what the difference was. I'm
fine with keeping this restriction

  E122 =
 
 libtaskotron/runner.py:127:17: E122 continuation line missing
 indentation or outdented
 
 
 raise TaskotronYamlError(Input yaml should contain
 correct 'input' section (a mapping). Yours was: %s % type(
  self.taskdata['input']))
 
 I don't really understand the purpose of this error. If I move
 'type(' to the third line, it goes away.

I agree with Josef on this one. In general, I don't like having
calls hat start on one line like that and continue onto the next line
and am fine with keeping this enabled.


  E265 
 
 libtaskotron/directives/bodhi_comment_directive.py:422:13: E265 block
 comment should start with '# '
 
 
 #TODO: replace url with proper URL
 
 
 Me and Josef are used to avoid the space in these cases. We can
 re-learn, of course. But it's very common to write it this way.

Yeah, I had to relearn that habit as well but I'm of the opinion that
having a space between '#' and the rest of the comment does make many
comments easier to read.


  E111, E113 
 
 libtaskotron/config_defaults.py:53:35: E111 indentation is not a
 multiple of four libtaskotron/config_defaults.py:53:35: E113
 unexpected indentation
 
 
 bodhi_posting_comments_span =
 4320  #: # 3 days (3*24*60 = 4320)
 
 
 This is a nice example how automated style checks impede visual
 coding. In this case, it makes absolute sense to have the comment
 written in this way. However, if we suppress E111 and E113 globally,
 we might miss some potential problems elsewhere. I'm not sure if we
 can suppress certain warnings only in a selected block of code, but
 if we check for PEP8 automatically, we should find out. There will be
 more use cases like this one.

The '#:' is for making sphinx format the comments differently when
rendering docs, no? Why can't the comment explaining that 3 days is
4320 minutes be inline?

Why is making the indentation a clean multiple of 4 not an option here?
Granted, that wouldn't fix both errors but it would fix one of them.


 Sooo, I'm not exactly a big fan of automated PEP8 checking (I had to
 disable it in Spyder, because it was driving me mad), but it might be
 somewhat useful, if we configure some exceptions to the general rules.

What about using pylint instead of the pep8 tool. While I realize it
isn't 100% of what pep8 covers, they're close and AFAIK, pylint is
quite a bit more configurable than pep8 compliance checkers are.

Outside of any one (or more than one) person's dislike of 

Re: Coding Style

2014-06-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
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On 06/04/2014 02:01 PM, Tim Flink wrote:
 Of the concerns you raised, I'm not terribly opposed to most of
 them other than E128 and E122. I'm not crazy about dropping E265,
 though.

One thing to watch with pep8 is it has the notion of ignored by
default errors. If you start turning additional errors off, you need
to make sure to turn those ones off as well.

(my own major gripe is with E121, since that was based on a misreading
of the PEP, which has since been clarified:
https://github.com/jcrocholl/pep8/issues/256)

Cheers,
Nick.

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