Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-17 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Шварцкоп Александр (dudesuchamaz...@gmail.com):

> We'll need your KiCad config directory to debug this.

Jackpot: when I remove sym-lib-table from ~/.config/kicad/7.0/
everything works just fine. (File attached, gzipped, I hope it goes
through). Wouldn't it be great if config loading problems produced an error?

Regards,
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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-16 Thread 'Ian McInerney' via KiCad Developers
Thanks to Steve Falco, we also now have a new testing build repository for
Fedora: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/kicad/kicad-testing/,
which will provide packages containing the 7.0 branch testing builds (e.g.
future 7.0.4 currently). Note that it cannot be installed alongside the
stable builds from the Fedora repository or the @kicad/kicad copr.

-Ian

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 5:43 PM Jon Evans  wrote:

> We would appreciate further user testing of 7.0 testing builds so that we
> can be confident in a 7.0.4 release soon.
>
> In addition to the Ubuntu PPA that Ian linked, you can grab the latest
> builds for Windows/Mac here:
> Windows:
> https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/windows/testing/7.0/kicad-7.0-testing_r32346.2ea59ac83a-x86_64-lite.exe
> macOS:
> https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/testing/7.0/kicad-unified-universal-20230516-0735-2ea59ac83a.dmg
>
> -Jon
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 8:13 AM Salvador E. Tropea 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much Ian!
>>
>>
>> On 15/5/23 07:25, 'Ian McInerney' via KiCad Developers wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 11:20 AM Salvador E. Tropea 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> BTW: I think we don't have a PPA for "stable nightly". If yes please let
>>> me know. It could be handy to allow more people testing the upcoming
>>> release.
>>>
>>
>> We do have an Ubuntu PPA for testing builds:
>> https://launchpad.net/~kicad/+archive/ubuntu/kicad-7.0-nightly, which is
>> listed on the main downloads page: https://www.kicad.org/download/linux/
>>
>> FYI: the terminology we prefer to use is "testing builds" for builds
>> using the tip of the stable branch and "nightly builds" for builds using
>> the tip of the master branch.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 15/5/23 06:45, Salvador E. Tropea wrote:
>>> > Nothing to be sorry, if it needs more work this is the best thing to
>>> > do. Just my 2 cents.
>>> >
>>> > On 14/5/23 19:05, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>>> >> Unfortunately, it 7.0.3 is not going to be officially released.  A
>>> >> serious bug was found in the PNS router in the release packages so we
>>> >> are going to push a 7.0.4 release after some additional testing to
>>> >> make sure the issue is fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> Wayne
>>> >>
>>> >
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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-16 Thread Mark Roszko
Christoph,

Can you alter the build to use the clang linker flag "-flat_namespace" and
see if it works?

Regards,
Mark

On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:57 PM Christoph Moench-Tegeder 
wrote:

> ## Jon Evans (j...@craftyjon.com):
>
> > I don't know what you mean by "major problems" so I can't comment on them
> > without more details.
>
> Crashes. Shortest reproducer is this one (schema does not matter, I
> believe it's a resistor and an LED):
> $ kicad-cli sch export pdf testschema.kicad_sch -o /tmp/f.pdf
> 20:45:37: Error: Unhandled exception class: St13runtime_error  what: Tried
> to GetAppSettings before registering
> Memory fault(coredump)
>
> (That coredump happens deep inside libc++, so maybe that's just an
> after-effect of things going wrong much earlier).
> Happens on FreeBSD, in 7.0.3 and "7.0 branch git", does not happen in
> 7.0.2. Does not really make sense, as I can't see any relevant change
> in the settings manager or surrounding code (but then I'm really not
> that good at seeing all the little details in these frameworked C++
> apps, and who knows what's up with our wxgtk); this is also obvious
> enough that it should have been reported if it happened on any "official"
> platform (eeschema fails like this, too).
> If everything else fails, I'll have to bisect (and there I was, talking
> about being short on time).
>
> Regards,
> Christoph
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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-16 Thread Шварцкоп Александр
Dear Christoph,

We'll need your KiCad config directory to debug this.

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 9:57 PM Christoph Moench-Tegeder 
wrote:

> ## Jon Evans (j...@craftyjon.com):
>
> > I don't know what you mean by "major problems" so I can't comment on them
> > without more details.
>
> Crashes. Shortest reproducer is this one (schema does not matter, I
> believe it's a resistor and an LED):
> $ kicad-cli sch export pdf testschema.kicad_sch -o /tmp/f.pdf
> 20:45:37: Error: Unhandled exception class: St13runtime_error  what: Tried
> to GetAppSettings before registering
> Memory fault(coredump)
>
> (That coredump happens deep inside libc++, so maybe that's just an
> after-effect of things going wrong much earlier).
> Happens on FreeBSD, in 7.0.3 and "7.0 branch git", does not happen in
> 7.0.2. Does not really make sense, as I can't see any relevant change
> in the settings manager or surrounding code (but then I'm really not
> that good at seeing all the little details in these frameworked C++
> apps, and who knows what's up with our wxgtk); this is also obvious
> enough that it should have been reported if it happened on any "official"
> platform (eeschema fails like this, too).
> If everything else fails, I'll have to bisect (and there I was, talking
> about being short on time).
>
> Regards,
> Christoph
>
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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-16 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Jon Evans (j...@craftyjon.com):

> I don't know what you mean by "major problems" so I can't comment on them
> without more details.

Crashes. Shortest reproducer is this one (schema does not matter, I
believe it's a resistor and an LED):
$ kicad-cli sch export pdf testschema.kicad_sch -o /tmp/f.pdf
20:45:37: Error: Unhandled exception class: St13runtime_error  what: Tried to 
GetAppSettings before registering
Memory fault(coredump)

(That coredump happens deep inside libc++, so maybe that's just an
after-effect of things going wrong much earlier).
Happens on FreeBSD, in 7.0.3 and "7.0 branch git", does not happen in
7.0.2. Does not really make sense, as I can't see any relevant change
in the settings manager or surrounding code (but then I'm really not
that good at seeing all the little details in these frameworked C++
apps, and who knows what's up with our wxgtk); this is also obvious
enough that it should have been reported if it happened on any "official"
platform (eeschema fails like this, too).
If everything else fails, I'll have to bisect (and there I was, talking
about being short on time).

Regards,
Christoph

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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-16 Thread Jon Evans
> Are you looking for general issues (affecting all, not
only oficially supported platforms) or is there something specific to
some build chains?

General issues.

> what was the issue breaking 7.0.3 in the first place?

Problems with the shove router and ERC that were not noticed before the
release.

I don't know what you mean by "major problems" so I can't comment on them
without more details.

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 1:16 PM Christoph Moench-Tegeder 
wrote:

> ## Jon Evans (j...@craftyjon.com):
>
> > We would appreciate further user testing of 7.0 testing builds so that we
> > can be confident in a 7.0.4 release soon.
>
> Two questions: Are you looking for general issues (affecting all, not
> only oficially supported platforms) or is there something specific to
> some build chains? And: what was the issue breaking 7.0.3 in the first
> place? (maybe I totally missed any details?)
>
> Background: I faced major problems when testing 7.0.3 on FreeBSD, but
> the crashes I got were so weird that I initially suspected our (that
> is, FreeBSD's) libc++ had gone wonky between 13.1 and 13.2 - but 7.0.2
> built on 13.2 works just fine; but I was late with my build due to
> work (which is completely unrelated to kicad, but required to pay the
> electricity bills ;)) and general life things, so I didn't get around
> to report anything (it wouldn't be the first time our tooling totally
> mislead me, so I was really suspecting local issues...)
>
> Regards,
> Christoph
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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-16 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Jon Evans (j...@craftyjon.com):

> We would appreciate further user testing of 7.0 testing builds so that we
> can be confident in a 7.0.4 release soon.

Two questions: Are you looking for general issues (affecting all, not
only oficially supported platforms) or is there something specific to
some build chains? And: what was the issue breaking 7.0.3 in the first
place? (maybe I totally missed any details?)

Background: I faced major problems when testing 7.0.3 on FreeBSD, but
the crashes I got were so weird that I initially suspected our (that
is, FreeBSD's) libc++ had gone wonky between 13.1 and 13.2 - but 7.0.2
built on 13.2 works just fine; but I was late with my build due to
work (which is completely unrelated to kicad, but required to pay the
electricity bills ;)) and general life things, so I didn't get around
to report anything (it wouldn't be the first time our tooling totally
mislead me, so I was really suspecting local issues...)

Regards,
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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-16 Thread Jon Evans
We would appreciate further user testing of 7.0 testing builds so that we
can be confident in a 7.0.4 release soon.

In addition to the Ubuntu PPA that Ian linked, you can grab the latest
builds for Windows/Mac here:
Windows:
https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/windows/testing/7.0/kicad-7.0-testing_r32346.2ea59ac83a-x86_64-lite.exe
macOS:
https://kicad-downloads.s3.cern.ch/osx/testing/7.0/kicad-unified-universal-20230516-0735-2ea59ac83a.dmg

-Jon

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 8:13 AM Salvador E. Tropea 
wrote:

> Thank you very much Ian!
>
>
> On 15/5/23 07:25, 'Ian McInerney' via KiCad Developers wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 11:20 AM Salvador E. Tropea 
> wrote:
>
>> BTW: I think we don't have a PPA for "stable nightly". If yes please let
>> me know. It could be handy to allow more people testing the upcoming
>> release.
>>
>
> We do have an Ubuntu PPA for testing builds:
> https://launchpad.net/~kicad/+archive/ubuntu/kicad-7.0-nightly, which is
> listed on the main downloads page: https://www.kicad.org/download/linux/
>
> FYI: the terminology we prefer to use is "testing builds" for builds using
> the tip of the stable branch and "nightly builds" for builds using the tip
> of the master branch.
>
>
>>
>> On 15/5/23 06:45, Salvador E. Tropea wrote:
>> > Nothing to be sorry, if it needs more work this is the best thing to
>> > do. Just my 2 cents.
>> >
>> > On 14/5/23 19:05, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>> >> Unfortunately, it 7.0.3 is not going to be officially released.  A
>> >> serious bug was found in the PNS router in the release packages so we
>> >> are going to push a 7.0.4 release after some additional testing to
>> >> make sure the issue is fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Wayne
>> >>
>> >
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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-16 Thread Salvador E. Tropea

Thank you very much Ian!


On 15/5/23 07:25, 'Ian McInerney' via KiCad Developers wrote:



On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 11:20 AM Salvador E. Tropea 
 wrote:


BTW: I think we don't have a PPA for "stable nightly". If yes
please let
me know. It could be handy to allow more people testing the upcoming
release.


We do have an Ubuntu PPA for testing builds: 
https://launchpad.net/~kicad/+archive/ubuntu/kicad-7.0-nightly, which 
is listed on the main downloads page: 
https://www.kicad.org/download/linux/


FYI: the terminology we prefer to use is "testing builds" for builds 
using the tip of the stable branch and "nightly builds" for builds 
using the tip of the master branch.



On 15/5/23 06:45, Salvador E. Tropea wrote:
> Nothing to be sorry, if it needs more work this is the best
thing to
> do. Just my 2 cents.
>
> On 14/5/23 19:05, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>> Unfortunately, it 7.0.3 is not going to be officially released.  A
>> serious bug was found in the PNS router in the release packages
so we
>> are going to push a 7.0.4 release after some additional testing to
>> make sure the issue is fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>

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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-15 Thread 'Ian McInerney' via KiCad Developers
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 11:20 AM Salvador E. Tropea 
wrote:

> BTW: I think we don't have a PPA for "stable nightly". If yes please let
> me know. It could be handy to allow more people testing the upcoming
> release.
>

We do have an Ubuntu PPA for testing builds:
https://launchpad.net/~kicad/+archive/ubuntu/kicad-7.0-nightly, which is
listed on the main downloads page: https://www.kicad.org/download/linux/

FYI: the terminology we prefer to use is "testing builds" for builds using
the tip of the stable branch and "nightly builds" for builds using the tip
of the master branch.


>
> On 15/5/23 06:45, Salvador E. Tropea wrote:
> > Nothing to be sorry, if it needs more work this is the best thing to
> > do. Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > On 14/5/23 19:05, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
> >> Unfortunately, it 7.0.3 is not going to be officially released.  A
> >> serious bug was found in the PNS router in the release packages so we
> >> are going to push a 7.0.4 release after some additional testing to
> >> make sure the issue is fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >>
> >
>
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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-15 Thread Salvador E. Tropea
BTW: I think we don't have a PPA for "stable nightly". If yes please let 
me know. It could be handy to allow more people testing the upcoming 
release.


On 15/5/23 06:45, Salvador E. Tropea wrote:
Nothing to be sorry, if it needs more work this is the best thing to 
do. Just my 2 cents.


On 14/5/23 19:05, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
Unfortunately, it 7.0.3 is not going to be officially released.  A 
serious bug was found in the PNS router in the release packages so we 
are going to push a 7.0.4 release after some additional testing to 
make sure the issue is fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.


Cheers,

Wayne





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Re: [kicad] 7.0.3 stable release update

2023-05-15 Thread Salvador E. Tropea
Nothing to be sorry, if it needs more work this is the best thing to do. 
Just my 2 cents.


On 14/5/23 19:05, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
Unfortunately, it 7.0.3 is not going to be officially released.  A 
serious bug was found in the PNS router in the release packages so we 
are going to push a 7.0.4 release after some additional testing to 
make sure the issue is fixed.  Sorry for the inconvenience.


Cheers,

Wayne



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