Re: [digitalradio] RFSM8000 and Yaesu FT857

2008-04-19 Thread kh6ty
Les,

According to the RFSM web page, you need at *least* 300 to 3000 Hz audio 
response, and preferably 300 to 3400 Hz. Even an INRAD filter is not going to 
completely meet the 3000 Hz high end requirement, much less a 3400 Hz 
requirement. I think some other Yaesu rigs optionally support a 3300 Hz  high 
end with an optional Yaesu filter, but my point was that if your low end is 
only 700 Hz, something is misaligned on your FT-857 to start with. You also 
could wind up paying for an INRAD filter and still find the low end or high end 
inadequate because the audio itself is rolled off too fast.

Anyway, it is probably better to use something other than the FT-857 for 
digital modes as finding the ALC threshold is very critical for getting low 
IMD, even on PSK31, and drift is a problem on 2 meters unless you have the TCXO 
option, which my FT-857 does not.

73, Skip KH6TY


  - Original Message - 
  From: Leskep 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RFSM8000 and Yaesu FT857



  Hi Skip
  The problem is that I need to pass around 2.4 khz of signal audio
  and with the stock filter it will not do it - have to look at a wider filter 
or
  an IC7000 hihi
  Regards
  Les


  From: kh6ty 
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:40 AM
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RFSM8000 and Yaesu FT857



  Les,

  Are you sure it is the IF passband? If your BFO injection frequency is set 
correctly, you should be able to pass 300 to maybe 2200 Hz. Otherwise, SSB 
phone will have no lows.

  If you have audio transformers in a homebrew interface, make sure they have 
the necessary frequency response. The best around here seem to be the little 
green ones from Radio Shack.

  73, Skip KH6TY



- Original Message - 
From: Leskep 
To: Digitalradio 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:08 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] RFSM8000 and Yaesu FT857


Greetings to all
Is anyone using the FT857 for RFSM8000 
I have been trying mine out over the past two days after getting a
new Signalink USB interface
Big problem with the RX passband - it is not wide enough using
the standard filter supplied with the FT857 and consequently too 
much of the signal is cut off on the low frequency end of the audio
Waterfall shows that there is no or very little audio up to about 700 hz
making it impossible so far to make a connect even though it will
spring up the called station every time
Any ideas? I am now looking at an INRAD filter either 2500 or 2900
that would allow the required passband audio
Any comments or feedback welcome
Regards
Les VK2DSG








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Re: [digitalradio] Tracking update: Cheap soundcard order

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Getting closer


Apr 18, 2008 9:17 PM

Departed FedEx location 

SYRACUSE, NY

Hopefully they will arrive this morning...

For $8.00 of shipping costs, the company might have saved a dollar or
two by just using USPS rather than Fed EX, seems odd to use Fed
EXPRESS for something that takes 5 days.

Andy.


On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 FYI, the cheap USB sound adapters I ordered are at

  Apr 17, 2008 9:17 AM

  In transit

  OLIVE BRANCH, MS

  Still some ways away from western New York State. I expect them to
  arrive Saturday.

  I have all 6 spoken for and 2-3 late arriving requests. When they
  arrive, I will re-notify the people that first identified an interest
  . If anyone backs out, I will offer to the others that requested.

  



-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


[digitalradio] Sedate Skirmish ?

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I know propagation is not great (SF 70  A:6  K:2)  but we have had
worse lately.  I am not hearing much at all for the TARA Skirmish, try
CQing PSK63 and Olivia on 40M last night and this morning, NO takers
at all (25 watts here).  Hardly anything on 20M today, not a whole lot
on PSK31  either.


-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


[digitalradio] Re: 30 meters Olivia

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Curt Givens[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So where is the Olivia activity on 30m I've off the air since late
January,
 antenna problem due to icing ready to get back on and I'd like to
try Olivia
 more so where and what setting are most guys/gals using?
 


If you park around 10140 with a wide filter selected, you will hear
Pactor, PSK31, WSPR, JT65A frequently and every now and again up pops
a Olivia CQ.

Andy K3UK




[digitalradio] Re: Sedate Skirmish ?

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know propagation is not great (SF 70  A:6  K:2)  but we have had
 worse lately.  I am not hearing much at all for the TARA Skirmish, try
 CQing PSK63 and Olivia on 40M last night and this morning, NO takers
 at all (25 watts here).  Hardly anything on 20M today, not a whole lot
 on PSK31  either.



Oh, I forgot that 20th Century mode, what's it called... hmmm, yes
that's it RTTY.  Seems that mode is active , I just forgot to check
the usual RTTY frequencies.  Just saw a complaint that in Europe
currently, 20M digital band is  crowded with RTTY in TARA Contest. 
So, that is good news, there is some activity.

RTTY now chirping away in my shack, CQ CQ TARA TEST YV5AAX
worked him first try , so band IS open (20M), just not many PSKer's
awake yet.







[digitalradio] USB external soundcards arrived BUT...

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
The USB soundcards arrived today from Computer Geeks.  Alas, the first
three packages I opened contain NO DRIVER CD despite the package
saying it contains CD Driver.  Computer Geeks are closed for the
weekend, so I may have to wait until Monday.  I doubt that I will be
able to find the driver on the Internet unless someone here already
has a working driver?  Skip and Mel are two that I think have these
devices.  I will let those that wanted one know more as I am able to
solve the issue.





-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


[digitalradio] USB external soundcards arrived FB

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The USB soundcards arrived today from Computer Geeks.  Alas, the first
 three packages I opened contain NO DRIVER CD despite the package
 saying it contains CD Driver. 
 

Upon a PC re-boot my system (XP HE) recongized the USB sound card and
both Multipsk and DM780 work fine with them.

So, those that said they wanted one... do you HAVE to have the
drivers?  If so, I will cancel your order.  I suspect that most of
us will be fine without them.


Odd to have may ham software using just a little gadget plugged in the
USB port.  Will see how they do for decode later this evening, after
yard work!





[digitalradio] Re: USB external soundcards arrived BUT...

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Thanks Mel, I am not sure the ones I bought are exactly the same, I
bought 6 at $6.95 each from Computer Geeks.  I bought six since
shipping cost was $8.00, several hams are going to buy one from me ,
so we will not waste mailing costs.

I do have mine working on regular digital modes, the TX sound mixer is
as one normally would expect,  BUT there is NO receive audio mixer.
There is a mixer but not volume control sliders and no LINE IN or MIC
IN Boxes, just nothing.  One error message I got when trying to do
normal things was that the device  does NOT have volume controls (
selected audio mixer has not recording controls).  I guess it is
possible that the sound card adapter is designed NOT to require volume
adjustments.

It decodes, RTTY, PSK31, etc  just fine, but cannot turn up/down the
received signal levels.



On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Mel Whitten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andy
  The CD is not required.  Just plug in the C-Media USB Sound adapter and
  windows will find it, load drivers and the DV programs will see it in the
 list.
  In the windows mixer, the card (or probably any of the others, even sound
 blasters
  USB stuff) will be shown.  Just go to it and adjust the sliders.  The
 little
  8 dollar USB Sound audio adapter/sound card will be identified as
  C-Media USB headphone set.
  GL/73
  Mel


[digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Maybe it is because I am getting irritated because of the pinched
nerve in my neck, I'm thinking maybe I have just had enough of the
plethora of digital modes.  Yes, it is K3UK saying that...the bloke
that is always trying varying modes.

I tried calling CQ numerous times in the TARA Skirming using various
exotic modes, but ZERO respondents.  No one answered Olivia CQ's, no
one answered DominoEX CQ's, no Hell, and even no MFSK16 !

The only three modes that produced a response were PSK31, PSK63 and RTTY.


Several months ago, I saw Dave AA6YQ make some comment about Winwabler
not adding additional modes because (paraphrasing) RTTY and PSK31/63
are effective and the others too under utilized to warrant inclusion.
While I have really enjoyed many experimental modes and had  lots of
fun testing, I think if I added up the time I have spent endlessly
trawling the digital bands without results, I could have built a few
more antennae, or added a few thousand more QSO via other modes. 
Heck, my CW could be even more practiced.


So, for the next few months I am going to detox,  and consolidate
around the following modes.

PSK31/63 (125/250 on VHF/UHF)
RTTY
MEPT-WSPR (passive operations)
Narrow SSTV/Digital SSTV
HF JT65A
ALE 400


Time to put MFSK16,Hell, standard ALE, Olivia , Contestia, RTTYM,
DominoEX , etc, in to the virtual junk-box.  They can join their
counsins from the non-virtual world...Betamax ,8 track tapes, and
cassettes.  All good applications, but no one uses 'em anymore.


Andy K3UK




Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-19 Thread Jose Amador

  Time to put MFSK16,Hell, standard ALE, Olivia , Contestia, RTTYM,
  DominoEX , etc, in to the virtual junk-box.  They can join their
  counsins from the non-virtual world...Betamax ,8 track tapes, and
  cassettes.  All good applications, but no one uses 'em anymore.
 
  Andy K3UK

Between Olivia, Contestia, RTTYM, I would keep Olivia.

MFSK16 may be useful for image transfereven when I prefer Olivia.

Hell is different enough to keep as a living fossil. May be fun at 
times, and would allow a very simple TX. A simple CW transmitter might work.

I have never found Domino any better than Olivia.

So, I would keep Olivia, MFSK16 and Hell.

BTW, did Chip 64 ever get any use ?

73,

Jose, CO2JA