[digitalradio] Ros posts rebuttal of Olivia / Ros test results

2010-03-23 Thread g4ilo
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/the-ros-numbers

Julian, G4ILO



Re: [digitalradio] Ros posts rebuttal of Olivia / Ros test results

2010-03-23 Thread KH6TY
Perhaps Tony, K2MO, can make some pathsim comparisons of ROS 8 baud with 
Olivia 32-1000.


73 - Skip KH6TY




g4ilo wrote:
 

http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/the-ros-numbers 
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/the-ros-numbers


Julian, G4ILO




Re: [digitalradio] Re: Using JT65A and W4CQZ RB for radiation pattern studies.

2010-03-23 Thread Jon Maguire

Hi Julian,

What are you using to analyze the WSPR data after downloading? Thank you.

73... Jon W1MNK

g4ilo wrote:
 

I don't think you can impute anything meaningful from one set of 
reports. Normal QSB will make a difference of from several to many dB 
which can only be averaged out over a period of time.


WSPR is much better IMO for this sort of thing. You can leave it 
running, go and do something interesting, then come back later and 
download all the spots and take an average. You can also transmit 
simultaneously on two different frequencies using the test antenna and 
a reference one and compare the reports each one gets. (You have to 
start the transmit cycles manually in that case, there is no facility 
in the software for two copies of the program to use the same pattern 
of transmissions.)


Julian, G4ILO

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:


 While transmitting on 20M today , using JT65HF software and
 monitoring the W4CQZ Reverse Beacons for JT65A,, I was lucky enough
 to get 9 stations report my signal strength from one 45 second
 transmission. Take a look at the report each station noted at 2136
 Europe. I was using my home made ground plane vertical mounted at
 17ft (1/4 wave). Southern US stations (mostly SW of me) averaged
 several dB better signals from me than the Europeans. So can I assume
 anything meaningful aabout the radiation pattern from this antenna or
 is the key factor to examine the distance ? The Europeans were twice
 as far away from my QTH.

 ES2MA-1 (KO29HI) Heard K3UK on 14076.12 KHz -19dB at 21:36:00Z using
 JT65A (6755 kms)
 G4ENZ-1 (IO81vv) Heard K3UK on 14076.11 KHz -17dB at 21:36:00Z using
 JT65A (3514 miles)
 F6DKQ-1 (JN37BI) Heard K3UK on 14076.13 KHz -11dB at 21:36:00Z using
 JT65A (3986 miles)

 Southern USA
 KD5JGA-1 (EM16rb) Heard K3UK on 14076.11 KHz -10dB at 21:36:00Z 
using JT65A

 N5LYJ-1 (EM03rv) Heard K3UK on 14076.08 KHz -9dB at 21:36:00Z using
 JT65A (1191 miles)
 KC5NYJ-1 (EL09rn) Heard K3UK on 14076.11 KHz -11dB at 21:36:00Z using
 JT65A (1380 miles)
 N4ABN-1 (DM59pd) Heard K3UK on 14076.10 KHz -17dB at 21:36:00Z using
 JT65A (1545 miles)
 WY5R-1 (DM95be) Heard K3UK on 14076.11 KHz -7dB at 21:36:00Z using
 JT65A (1307 miles)

 Local
 VE3CDX-1 (DM26ic) Heard K3UK on 14076.09 KHz -9dB at 21:36:00Z using
 JT65A (30 miles)

 Andy K3UK





[digitalradio] Re: Using JT65A and W4CQZ RB for radiation pattern studies.

2010-03-23 Thread g4ilo
My own brain, pencil and paper. :) I just average out the reports from 
different stations. I use two different transmitters to send two WSPR 
transmissions at the same time and using the same power on different 
frequencies using the antenna under test and the one I am comparing it to.

Julian, G4ILO

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jon Maguire w1...@... wrote:

 Hi Julian,
 
 What are you using to analyze the WSPR data after downloading? Thank you.
 




Re: [digitalradio] Re: Using JT65A and W4CQZ RB for radiation pattern studies.

2010-03-23 Thread Jon Maguire

Julian,

I didn't consider the brain. Oh my :-) Excellent information. Brain 1 
computer 0.


73... Jon W1MNK

g4ilo wrote:
 

My own brain, pencil and paper. :) I just average out the reports from 
different stations. I use two different transmitters to send two WSPR 
transmissions at the same time and using the same power on different 
frequencies using the antenna under test and the one I am comparing it to.


Julian, G4ILO

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Jon Maguire w1...@... wrote:


 Hi Julian,

 What are you using to analyze the WSPR data after downloading? Thank 
you.






[digitalradio] Re: Using JT65A and W4CQZ RB for radiation pattern studies.

2010-03-23 Thread Rudy
I call it the Meat Computer.

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jon Maguire w1...@... wrote:

 Julian,
 
 I didn't consider the brain. Oh my :-) Excellent information. Brain 1 
 computer 0.
 
 73... Jon W1MNK
 
 g4ilo wrote:
   
 
  My own brain, pencil and paper. :) I just average out the reports from 
  different stations. I use two different transmitters to send two WSPR 
  transmissions at the same time and using the same power on different 
  frequencies using the antenna under test and the one I am comparing it to.
 
  Julian, G4ILO
 
  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Jon Maguire w1mnk@ wrote:
  
   Hi Julian,
  
   What are you using to analyze the WSPR data after downloading? Thank 
  you.
  
 
 





[digitalradio] Another plug for JT65A ... the spectrum efficient mode

2010-03-23 Thread Andy obrien
I know many are already aware of this, but take a look

N9DSJ-1 (EN52ti) Heard N6TE(DM12) on 3576.23 KHz -8dB at 03:32:00Z using JT65A
N9DSJ-1 (EN52ti) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 3575.99 KHz -5dB at 03:32:00Z using JT65A

Bill N9DSJ decoded two stations within 24 Hz of each other, how is
that for spectrum efficiency?  I was transmitting 5 watts,

Andy K3UK