Re: [digitalradio] What mean Too Wide?

2010-05-26 Thread Jaak Hohensee

24.05.2010 22:45, Rick Westerfield kirjutas:


This would be a general definition that perhaps not everyone could 
fully agree on:


   Too Wide:  takes up too much spectrum bandwidth for the amount of 
information delivered or the speed of the information's delivery.


Rick, academically you are right. But the question/poll is about 
keyboard modes mental limit.
For me the limit somewhere around rtty45 bw. Olivia 500 too wide, mfsk16 
somewhere on the limit.


The psk31 is de facto standard. I think good idea to measure/evaluate 
things with this standard.


MFSK modes are undervalued but not in every case. For good or moderate 
propagation  psk31 is the best (not academically). But for 
poor/disturbed propagation and in higher latitudes there are better modes.
We can use many mfsk modes with different bw and tones. From standard 
user viewpoint -  more is less. RSID, Video ID are good things. But we 
need de-facto mfsk-standard like psk31 to fire psk-folk in case of 
poor/disturbed propagation to switch mode. This is 
strategical/promotional BIG step.
IMO Contestia 250/4 (or /8?) is enough good bw/speed compromise to take 
de facto mfsk-standard role. There are better modes/formats from speed 
viewpoint DominoEX11, MFSK16 or from snr viewpoint 250/16:

So what mean too wide mode mentally?
http://contestia.blogspot.com/

vy73 Jaak
es1hj

Poor or disturbed propagation constrains all of us into fewer bands 
for digital operations. With fewer sunspots, we all crowd the same 
bands which makes the too wide problem worse.  Some modes are very 
narrow and are spectrum efficient but have little error correction.  
Others are too wide but have lots or error correction and are 
fast.   As you very well know, these are the tradeoffs we all face.


   This definition might cause a bit of a Food Fight here on this 
reflector but hopefully . . . not.


Rick -- KH2DF

*From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
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*Subject:* [digitalradio] What mean Too Wide?

Hi

Sometimes we hear, that mode or format is too wide. What this mean?
Context - poor or disturbed propagation.
Please answer. Your answer help to see how different people understand
the term too wide.
http://contestia.blogspot.com/ http://contestia.blogspot.com/

tnx!

--
vy 73, Jaak
es1hj




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Kirjutas ja tervitab
Jaak Hohensee



[digitalradio] HAM-MAG Article - Digital Sound Card Modes

2010-05-26 Thread Trevor .
A 7 page article on getting started with digital sound cards modes appears in 
the May 2010 issue of HAM-MAG

P17 - Getting Started with Digital Sound Card Modes with the Yaesu FT817 
Transceiver

The May 2010 issue can be downloaded free from 

http://ham.france.free.fr/crbst_17.html 

73 Trevor M5AKA



  



[digitalradio] Re: SSTV AMPLIFIER

2010-05-26 Thread David


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, obie47165 obie47...@... wrote:

 Any suggestions for a amp vhf  for SSTV
 I inquired with MFJ...and they said NO, for sstv on their line of amps.
 
 Any help appreciated...
 
 POB/K8LEN


If you're operating SSTV via FM, any 2m amp will do the job. If you're 
operating via USB (like on HF), any LINEAR amp will do.

Dave G4CLI




Re: [digitalradio] About digital reception and SDR.

2010-05-26 Thread Frank MacDonell
Simon - A little off topic, but I have scoured the internet and forums and I
cannot find a fix for Windows 7 crashing with DM 780. I am a loyal fan of
the software and have donated as well. Can you point me in the right
direction?
Frank KD8FIP

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Simon HB9DRV simon.br...@kns.ch wrote:



 An advantage of writing my own console is I don't have to wait in the hope
 that other developers add features I would like to see.

 Before the end of May I'll be decoding digital modes inside my console and
 will be able to put the filter right after the mixer (and decimator). So
 for
 a PSK31 signal I'll be able to use a 60Hz filter with *very* steep skirts
 and have the optimum digital mode receiver.

 I'll get Andy K3UK to test this when it's available.

 After this I'll integrate DM780 so that the console can be used for TRX
 with
 the MOBOKIT SoftRock derivative.

 Simon Brown, HB9DRV
 http://sdr-radio.com

  




-- 
Frank KD8FIP


[digitalradio] mt63

2010-05-26 Thread obie47165
Is there any activity on mt63 on 20 meters or is it far and few between..

POB/K8LEN



Re: [digitalradio] mt63

2010-05-26 Thread Andy obrien
maybe one or two stations per day, tops.

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:07 PM, obie47165 obie47...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Is there any activity on mt63 on 20 meters or is it far and few between..

 POB/K8LEN

  



Re: [digitalradio] mt63

2010-05-26 Thread Hal Stang
If so What frequencies do they normally hang out on -80/40/20 meters?
Hal
  - Original Message - 
  From: obie47165 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:07 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] mt63



  Is there any activity on mt63 on 20 meters or is it far and few between..

  POB/K8LEN



  

RE: [digitalradio] About digital reception and SDR.

2010-05-26 Thread Simon HB9DRV
Hi,

 

If Windows 7 crashes with BSOD then it's a driver issue - I suggest serial
port or USB soundcard.

 

If it's the program crashing shout at me - I've been *very* busy getting SDR
software written  but in maybe two weeks will be able to get back into the
HRD suite. I'll get a dump file from you...

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Frank MacDonell



Simon - A little off topic, but I have scoured the internet and forums and I
cannot find a fix for Windows 7 crashing with DM 780. I am a loyal fan of
the software and have donated as well. Can you point me in the right
direction?

Frank KD8FIP