AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Autospot can now be turned off with a switch

Spotting by hand is possible

So jose did some major changes in that way

Now we have 2 programms running in background of the soft ros

One sends spots to cluster via telnet

And the other sends spots to psk reporter page for display them on a map

Greetz

Sigi

Dg9bfc



Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster - NOT

2010-07-24 Thread Steinar Aanesland
 Hi Laurie

I have been running the latest version of ROS in a sandbox monitoring
its network behavior with the software SmartSniff from  Nirsoft
http://www.nirsoft.net over a period of 2 hours.

ROS was constantly sending information to PSKReporter , but never to the
Cluster.

But I believe you if you mean it still spams the Cluster and that is
really sad :(

LA5VNA Steinar






On 24.07.2010 00:21, Laurie wrote:
 Hi Steinar,

 Unfortunately, v4.8.2 of ROS still spams the DX Cluster with auto-spots.

 Only way to effectively stop is block adif.exe at the firewall.

 ROS Auto-Spots too Cluster currently represent 98% of all ROS Cluster
spots, with ROS representing 6.2% of all Cluster spots (7 day period).

 As far as I can tell, ROS software is the only Digital-Mode software
that doesn't allow the user to turn off auto-spots (to either
PSKReporter or Cluster) or allow user-selection of Cluster. The user is
not given any choice. All the other software developers are more
Ham/Cluster friendly. :(

 de Laurie, VK3AMA


 On 24/07/2010 2:35 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:
 Hi all,

 It seems that the latest ROS is not spamming the cluster.

 73 de LA5VNA Steinar











Re: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Steinar Aanesland


Hi Siegfried

I can't find this switch, where is it hiding?


LA5VNA Steinar




On 24.07.2010 10:03, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
 Autospot can now be turned off with a switch

 Spotting by hand is possible

 So jose did some major changes in that way

 Now we have 2 programms running in background of the soft ros

 One sends spots to cluster via telnet

 And the other sends spots to psk reporter page for display them on a map

 Greetz

 Sigi

 Dg9bfc







Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster - NOT

2010-07-24 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Hi Steinar,

Mr Ros has a habit of rolling out new versions without updating the 
version number. So my non working v4.8.2 may have been different to 
yours. Currently v4.8.3 has been updated 3 times today (they way to tell 
is that the Medifire Link where the files are hosted changes every-time 
he uploads a new file).

v 4.8.3 is not spamming the Cluster based on my tests. So that is progress.

Unfortunately the option to turn off spots is ON by default, so users 
have to go and look for it. I suspect we will still see lots of the 
Cluster Auto-Spots because the people who didn't block it at the 
firewall and happily used ROS without regard for the Spam Spots they 
were generating will be too lazy, or uninterested to find the OFF option.

Mr ROS hardcoded another 2 Cluster Nodes into his software in this last 
release.

At least some progress has been made.

de Laurie, VK3AMA


On 24/07/2010 7:22 PM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:
   Hi Laurie

 I have been running the latest version of ROS in a sandbox monitoring
 its network behavior with the software SmartSniff from  Nirsoft
 http://www.nirsoft.net over a period of 2 hours.

 ROS was constantly sending information to PSKReporter , but never to the
 Cluster.

 But I believe you if you mean it still spams the Cluster and that is
 really sad :(

 LA5VNA Steinar






 On 24.07.2010 00:21, Laurie wrote:
 Hi Steinar,

 Unfortunately, v4.8.2 of ROS still spams the DX Cluster with auto-spots.

 Only way to effectively stop is block adif.exe at the firewall.

 ROS Auto-Spots too Cluster currently represent 98% of all ROS Cluster
 spots, with ROS representing 6.2% of all Cluster spots (7 day period).

 As far as I can tell, ROS software is the only Digital-Mode software
 that doesn't allow the user to turn off auto-spots (to either
 PSKReporter or Cluster) or allow user-selection of Cluster. The user is
 not given any choice. All the other software developers are more
 Ham/Cluster friendly. :(

 de Laurie, VK3AMA


 On 24/07/2010 2:35 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:
 Hi all,

 It seems that the latest ROS is not spamming the cluster.

 73 de LA5VNA Steinar











 

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AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Iin the tab skets click on cluster

There you can send spots manually and switch off the autospotting

I let the newest version run for a few hours  not autospots were sent
when switch was off

You can send autogenerated and in downloaded newest version the switch is
set normally to on . so as the users do not switch it off (or using old
version) there is the reason for the soft still sending spots

So all users should manually switch that function off ! ! !

Psk reporter sends to the map

Cluster sends to telnet

Ros sends on air and the emails via gmail

As the autospot can now be switched off we have what we wanted ..

What about an autospot configurable by user (only send spots more than xy km
distance)

Hope you find that switch hi hi

Greetz

Sigi

Dg9bfc



[digitalradio] virus warning

2010-07-24 Thread David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD
i run two machines xp/win7.  both have installed the microsoft
security essentials.

of late, i am getting a pop up warning about a trojan:win32/jpgiframe.a
on digisites loading and when it refreshes.G0HWC,s web page with all the 
thumbs from various sstv ops does the same.

the security program can eliminate the trojan, which is good, but
a false positive all the time is a bummer.

anyone to comment.

david/wd4kpd


-- 
God's law is set in stone : everything else is negotiable


Re: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Steinar Aanesland

Aha, this switch was not implemented in the version 4.8.2 that I was
testing.

la5vna Steinar



On 24.07.2010 16:23, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
 Iin the tab skets click on cluster

 There you can send spots manually and switch off the autospotting

 I let the newest version run for a few hours  not autospots were sent
 when switch was off

 You can send autogenerated and in downloaded newest version the switch is
 set normally to on . so as the users do not switch it off (or using old
 version) there is the reason for the soft still sending spots

 So all users should manually switch that function off ! ! !

 Psk reporter sends to the map

 Cluster sends to telnet

 Ros sends on air and the emails via gmail

 As the autospot can now be switched off we have what we wanted ..

 What about an autospot configurable by user (only send spots more than
xy km
 distance)

 Hope you find that switch hi hi

 Greetz

 Sigi

 Dg9bfc






AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Glad i could help

 

Iif you do NOT use cat the autogenerated spots on 20m are sent as 14000 . so
not correct

But when sending by hand qrg is correct

I asked jose if he can solve that . that a user without can do not send
wrong qrg . maybe he will find a solution for that

As we have now the autoreport to pskreporter we do not need the autospots
anymore (but jose thinks it is still needed)

So every user should switch that off and spot only by hand

Greetz sigi

 



[digitalradio] Re: Cool Spectrum Analyser

2010-07-24 Thread pseudospark
I've been using Spectrum Lab for years for the reception of natural radio VLF 
sferics in the 100 Hz to 20 kHz range. It has very effective 50 or 60 Hz 
filtering which permits the receiver to be used surprisingly close to 
residential power lines.

Steve, KB1TCE

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rudy Benner ben...@... wrote:

 http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html
 
 should keep you out of trouble for hours and hours, let the grass grow.
 
 ve3bdr





[digitalradio] Re: Cool Spectrum Analyser

2010-07-24 Thread jon_g4fut
Problem is that it won't run with VISTA :-(
Jon

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, pseudospark shan...@... wrote:

 I've been using Spectrum Lab for years for the reception of natural radio 
 VLF sferics in the 100 Hz to 20 kHz range. It has very effective 50 or 60 Hz 
 filtering which permits the receiver to be used surprisingly close to 
 residential power lines.
 
 Steve, KB1TCE
 
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rudy Benner benner@ wrote:
 
  http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html
  
  should keep you out of trouble for hours and hours, let the grass grow.
  
  ve3bdr
 





Re: [digitalradio] Re: Cool Spectrum Analyser

2010-07-24 Thread Rudy Benner
I would be interested to hear your comments about the Natural Radio stuff.

ve3bdr


From: pseudospark 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:48 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Cool Spectrum Analyser


  
I've been using Spectrum Lab for years for the reception of natural radio VLF 
sferics in the 100 Hz to 20 kHz range. It has very effective 50 or 60 Hz 
filtering which permits the receiver to be used surprisingly close to 
residential power lines.

Steve, KB1TCE

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rudy Benner ben...@... wrote:

 http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html
 
 should keep you out of trouble for hours and hours, let the grass grow.
 
 ve3bdr











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Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Hi Sigi,
Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots, 
the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster User.

Jose, clearly doesn't understand the Ham/Cluster culture.
Maybe we can change his attitude by passing on these concerns to his 
Beta-Tester who might be better placed to change his mind.

I know who the Beta-Tester is, email me privately and I will pass on the 
info (no it is not me, Hi)

de Laurie, VK3AMA


On 25/07/2010 5:50 AM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:


 As we have now the autoreport to pskreporter we do not need the
 autospots anymore (but jose thinks it is still needed)



Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread rein0zn
Lauri,

Why is it, that only a handful of amateurs seem to be concerned about this? 
If people said we do not use the program until this is fixed, I am sure
it would get fixed in an hurry.

73 Rein W6SZ


-Original Message-
From: Laurie, VK3AMA group...@vkdxer.com
Sent: Jul 24, 2010 6:44 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

Hi Sigi,
Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots, 
the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster User.

Jose, clearly doesn't understand the Ham/Cluster culture.
Maybe we can change his attitude by passing on these concerns to his 
Beta-Tester who might be better placed to change his mind.

I know who the Beta-Tester is, email me privately and I will pass on the 
info (no it is not me, Hi)

de Laurie, VK3AMA


On 25/07/2010 5:50 AM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:


 As we have now the autoreport to pskreporter we do not need the
 autospots anymore (but jose thinks it is still needed)





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Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread KH6TY
  Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots,
  the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster User.

To me, this attempted deception has been obvious ever since the issue of 
any auto-spots came up.

Isn't there any honesty at all possible with this author! :-(

This wholesale abuse of ham radio traditions and spamming clusters, etc. 
by this author, is just not acceptable, and to my knowledge has never 
been done before.

73, Skip KH6TY


Re: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Under the Skeds menu, then Cluster

de Laurie, VK3AMA


On 24/07/2010 7:26 PM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:


 Hi Siegfried

 I can't find this switch, where is it hiding?


 LA5VNA Steinar




 On 24.07.2010 10:03, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
 Autospot can now be turned off with a switch

 Spotting by hand is possible

 So jose did some major changes in that way

 Now we have 2 programms running in background of the soft ros

 One sends spots to cluster via telnet

 And the other sends spots to psk reporter page for display them on a map

 Greetz

 Sigi

 Dg9bfc





Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread F.R. Ashley

] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster


  Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots,
  the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster 
 User.

 To me, this attempted deception has been obvious ever since the issue of
 any auto-spots came up.

 Isn't there any honesty at all possible with this author! :-(

 This wholesale abuse of ham radio traditions and spamming clusters, etc.
 by this author, is just not acceptable, and to my knowledge has never
 been done before.

 73, Skip KH6TY


After reading endless posts about this software, I sincerely wonder why in 
heck anyone is even using it.  What are the chances of giving it a rest?

73 Buddy WB4M 



Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Because, outside the US, there is a large EU user-base of ROS users 
contributing a significant of unwanted spam to the Cluster.

de Laurie, VK3AMA

On 25/07/2010 11:28 AM, F.R. Ashley wrote:


 After reading endless posts about this software, I sincerely wonder why in
 heck anyone is even using it.  What are the chances of giving it a rest?

 73 Buddy WB4M



 

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Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Because, outside the US, there is a large EU user-base of ROS users 
contributing a significant of unwanted spam to the Cluster.

de Laurie, VK3AMA

On 25/07/2010 11:28 AM, F.R. Ashley wrote:


 After reading endless posts about this software, I sincerely wonder why in
 heck anyone is even using it.  What are the chances of giving it a rest?

 73 Buddy WB4M



 

 http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html
 Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit)

 Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522

 Yahoo! Groups Links






RE: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Has anyone checked to see whether the ROS code contains a keylogger, trojans, 
or a rootkit?

 73,

  Dave, AA6YQ

   
-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on 
Behalf Of KH6TY
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:37 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster


  
 Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots,
 the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster User.

To me, this attempted deception has been obvious ever since the issue of 
any auto-spots came up.

Isn't there any honesty at all possible with this author! :-(

This wholesale abuse of ham radio traditions and spamming clusters, etc. 
by this author, is just not acceptable, and to my knowledge has never 
been done before.

73, Skip KH6TY