[digitalradio] Re: ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster - NOT
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@... wrote: 3 qrg on 20 . yes it is the most used dx band .. How many phone channels of 3khz ??? None in the wideband digimode section! None continously on top of packet/pactor/winmor You argue about the bandwith . as wide as a phone conversation so what? Because it is the wideband digi section of the 20m band where all BBS reside. Remember I was forced to go QSY with my RMS because of the ROS QRM. Would you also tell the same to any phone operator?!? Hey your voice is 3kc wide . could you please use cw or psk??? If he is continously calling on top - like most ROS stations do- , yes I would ask him to QSY. It is another experimental mode . time will show if it is longer used or not You do not seem to get the drift Sigi. It makes no sense to compare ROS with phone. Compare ROS to other digital mode PSE. And then look at it's bandwidth compared to all the other modes. Don't play dumb Sigi... Marc, PD4U
[digitalradio] Re: ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster - NOT
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@... wrote: 3 qrg on 20 . yes it is the most used dx band .. So??? SSTV has been around since 1958 and since then the number of users has grown dramatically, but they only use one calling frequency on 20m. More users imply more patience and timing when to call CQ, among ROS users, because the frequency is in use. It does not imply hard coding more calling frequencies into the software. The result of hard coding the three calling frequencies is that ROS user see these frequencies as their frequencies. While in fact the frequency should be SHARED with others. So if the frequency is in use by a pactor client connecting to a pactor server, ROS users should wait until the frequency is free again. But since most users see it as their frequency, they just call on top of other modes. That is the daily practice on 144103/14112/14115. Because of that I am often unable to reach US WINMOR servers, while a few months ago I could connect every day. Howcome ROS has three frequencies within a few months? Because of the anti-HAM radio and egocentric behavior of the developer and the users of ROS. So I doubt their intentions and motives Sigi. And have good reasons for that. That's what I'm saying. So it's not about the banned calls list and the auto-spots not existing anymore. It's about the fact that they have been there. The fact that Jose Nieto-ROS intentionally included several functions that contradict common HAM operating practice that is the problem. Cahnging functions in software is easily done, changing one's motives and mindset is a completely different matter... Marc
[digitalradio] Ubuntu
Has anyone in the group tried the various windows digi software with Ubuntu? If so please contact me off list. Don't want to start a long thread on here. Thanks Lynn
Re: [digitalradio] Ubuntu
ons, 28 07 2010 kl. 16:50 -0500, skrev n0alo: Has anyone in the group tried the various windows digi software with Ubuntu? If so please contact me off list. Don't want to start a long thread on here. Thanks Lynn No let's keep it public - others might be interested. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 (32-bit) with WSJT, WSPR, FLdigi, gMFSK all work flawlessly. Also I'm using CQRlog, and xdx (DX-cluster SW) and grig (rudimentary rig control) I have also used QSSTV in the past, but lost interest. Try searching for ham in the SWcenter Vy 73 de OZ1PIF/5Q2M, Peter * ** Genius is one per cent inspiration, ** ** and ninety-nine per cent** ** perspiration. ** ** -- Thomas A. Edison ** * email: peter(no-spam filler)@frenning.dk http://www.frenning.dk/oz1pif.htm Ph. +45 4619 3239 Snailmail: Peter Frenning Ternevej 23 DK-4130 Viby Sj. Denmark *
[digitalradio] Hellschreiber Path Simulations [1 Attachment]
All, It's interesting to see how the various Hellschreiber modes print in the noise. Close examination reveals a noticeable difference in contrast and character definition that is likely to effect the overall readability over HF. The disparity seems more apparent on-air than it does with under the controlled environment of the path simulator - which is likely due to the the fact that the simulator is not capable of capturing all the finer details of the real HF channel. The image below (see attached) illustrates the different print characteristics of each mode after being subjected to the same level of white noise over a simulated channel. It is purely a sensitivity test which does not show the effect of HF distortion. While it isn't a weak signal mode per se, Hellschreiber has proved to be very tolerant to just about anything the ionosphere can throw at it. Test Software: IZ8BLY's Hellscreiber Path Simulation: White Noise -6db SNR Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] Ubuntu
But the original question was regarding various windows digi software, so the answer should address things like: Ham Radio Deluxe, DX Lab Suite, EasyPAL, etc. Listing off a group of Linux software doesn't answer the question. That being said, WSJT, WSPR, Fldigi CQRLog and others are all GREAT programs on Ubuntu...especially CQRlog and Fldigi; so why would you need windows software for most applications. Dave On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Peter Frenning pe...@frenning.dk wrote: ons, 28 07 2010 kl. 16:50 -0500, skrev n0alo: Has anyone in the group tried the various windows digi software with Ubuntu? If so please contact me off list. Don't want to start a long thread on here. Thanks Lynn No let's keep it public - others might be interested. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 (32-bit) with WSJT, WSPR, FLdigi, gMFSK all work flawlessly. Also I'm using CQRlog, and xdx (DX-cluster SW) and grig (rudimentary rig control) I have also used QSSTV in the past, but lost interest. Try searching for ham in the SWcenter Vy 73 de OZ1PIF/5Q2M, Peter * ** Genius is one per cent inspiration, ** ** and ninety-nine per cent** ** perspiration. ** ** -- Thomas A. Edison ** * email: peter(no-spam filler)@frenning.dk filler...@frenning.dkhttp://www.frenning.dk/oz1pif.htm Ph. +45 4619 3239 Snailmail: Peter Frenning Ternevej 23 DK-4130 Viby Sj. Denmark * -- Dave K3DCW www.k3dcw.net Real radio bounces off of the sky
[digitalradio] re: Ubuntu
About other programs, well I also like mmtty, mmsstv, easypal, kgstv and several others. A friend told me that Ubuntu should also run those with no problem, is this true? Lynn
Re: [digitalradio] re: Ubuntu
No, this is not true. Linux is not windows and even though there is an emulator named Wine, it is a kludge and is no guarantee that any windows software will run properly on Linux. Some does really good, some is buggy, some doesn't start at all. Trying to make Linux work like Windows will always be disappointing. Instead, try to find what makes Linux great and stick with Linux based software. The way to do this is instead of thinking of Windows program names you know and trying to get them to run, find Linux programs that perform the same function and learn how they work. You will be rewarded with inexpensive secure software that is very robust and stable. Something you never had with Windows and it's what makes Linux great. On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:06 PM, n0alo n0...@cox.net wrote: About other programs, well I also like mmtty, mmsstv, easypal, kgstv and several others. A friend told me that Ubuntu should also run those with no problem, is this true? Lynn
Re: [digitalradio] re: Ubuntu
Ubuntu is Linux, and will NOT run Windows programs normally. Some will run using a windows emulator called WINE, which emulates some Windows functions, but not all. I didn't know about any of those programs in particular; but a quick check of the wine website indicates the following: MMSSTV - Works in Ubuntu using WINE The others are not listed in the AppDB for WINE or have indicated problems. One other alternative is to run Ubuntu, then install Windows in a Virtual Machine using any of the various VM software tools out there. Then you are running those apps in real Windows, which is being run and hosted on Ubuntu. Also, Ubuntu (and Linux in general) has A LOT of great ham radio software. They may be different than your normal software tools, but many are as good as (or even superior to) their Windows counterparts. Fldigi is arguably one of the best digital software packages out there, and it is designed for Linux (also works on OS X and Windows). There are also SSTV, DX Cluster, Logging, CW, and many other ham-related packages available. Dave On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:06 PM, n0alo n0...@cox.net wrote: About other programs, well I also like mmtty, mmsstv, easypal, kgstv and several others. A friend told me that Ubuntu should also run those with no problem, is this true? Lynn __ -- Dave K3DCW www.k3dcw.net Real radio bounces off of the sky
Re: [digitalradio] Ubuntu
Ubuntu is an operating system, like Windows. It DOES NOT run Windows programs natively. The programs that Peter mentioned were ALL linux (Ubuntu) programs. Linux has most necessary drivers for most hardware out there. It would handle the sound card, modem, speaker, etc the same way Windows does in effect. If you are ever curious, you can download the Ubuntu ISO file, burn it to disc and start up a live cd install of Ubuntu. This loads Ubuntu into memory WITHOUT making any changes to the hard drive. It gives you an opportunity to test drive the support for your hardware without making any permanent changes, and then assuming everything is working, it lets you install the OS on the computer as well. You can have a hard disc that is dual boot, meaning it can run both Windows AND Ubuntu; you simply select one or the other at the prompt during boot-up. With Linux, there are a LOT of options. I have to agree with Phil's comments that one shouldn't look to run Windows software under Linux, but rather look for the best Linux tools out there to do the job. Dave On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Ted Bear w7...@juno.com wrote: I wonder...? I never played with Linux but in Peter's reply he mentions several Windows programs. Does this mean that Ubuntu can be loaded on lets say a laptop ... and then run as the only operating system.. Once machine was running under Ubuntu .. Am I to understand that it would run..Windows type .EXE programs without any modification. ..?? (Substituting for Windows OPSYS.) , If so... How would Linux handle the mouse..sound card..Mike and Spkr output.. etc. etc. Or do I read that all wrong and what is happening is that Windows is handling all the various driver applications and Linux would be just another program running under Windows. And maybe the Ham applications would be special versions coded to run under Linux.??? , I hope these are not dumb questions that must seem elementary to Linux users..But it sure would open up some great ham radio possibilities for use of some of the old laptops I have..? So any information would be appreciated. If this is too far from the digital radio thread I sure would like any links or info sent direct to my E-Mail (w7...@juno.com) Thanks in advance es 73... Ted-W7RHB -- Dave K3DCW www.k3dcw.net Real radio bounces off of the sky
[digitalradio] Ubuntu - thank you
Thank you everyone for the very usefull information. The response was great!. I think I will install both on the HD so I can choose on boot-up for the time being. I have been told that once using Ubuntu for awhile, I will never want to go back to windows. We will see. Thanks again Lynn
Re: [digitalradio] Ubuntu - thank you
Great idea. Just remember, the Windows way of doing things doesn't always translate into Ubuntu. Give Ubuntu a good period of time, learn to use it, and you will not regret it. Dave On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:53 PM, n0alo n0...@cox.net wrote: Thank you everyone for the very usefull information. The response was great!. I think I will install both on the HD so I can choose on boot-up for the time being. I have been told that once using Ubuntu for awhile, I will never want to go back to windows. We will see. Thanks again Lynn -- Dave K3DCW www.k3dcw.net Real radio bounces off of the sky
[digitalradio] Fwd: [sdr-radio-com] NetSDR Preview
-- Forwarded message -- From: RFSPACE rfsp...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:07 PM Subject: [sdr-radio-com] NetSDR Preview To: sdr-radio-...@yahoogroups.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Uh0hQK83A Works great with SDR-Radio.
Re: [digitalradio] Ubuntu - thank you
I think you got some great answers, with the general theme that Linux is an excellent operating system AND people have written native Linux ham programs that also are excellent. Bottom line -- hams will be more than happy running Linux as their prime operating system. There was one replier who felt the need to denigrate Windows (You will be rewarded with inexpensive secure software that is very robust and stable. Something you never had with Windows and it's what makes Linux great.) That part is kind of hard to understand. My Win XP SP3 machine has never crashed, not even once over these many years. At work, our Vista machines never go down, except when Building Maintenance decides to cut power to the mains. And I have used wonderfully robust Windows programs for many years. The fact that Windows is both stable and robust does not mean I think Linux isn't. In fact, since I first read about Unix in 1977 and in the 80s played with various PC ports of Unix, and later Linux over the years, it's been fascinating to see this platform flourish and grow. It IS an excellent operating system. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: n0alo To: digiradio Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Ubuntu - thank you Thank you everyone for the very usefull information. The response was great!. I think I will install both on the HD so I can choose on boot-up for the time being. I have been told that once using Ubuntu for awhile, I will never want to go back to windows. We will see. Thanks again Lynn
[digitalradio] Re: SDR Info request
Softrock receiver and transceiver kits are ordered from this web site: http://www.kb9yig.com/ The kits sell fast when announced. Often tips when they will be available are posted on the Softrock40 group. Or you could use an automatic monitoring program to alert when the web page changes. Good luck, Ted WA7ZZB
