Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?
The FCC never said anything that was a commitment. A staff member wrote a very non committal letter basically hoping you would go away. This FCC stuff is silly. On 7/12/10 5:33 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote: Unless there is spread spectrum in ROS you cannot use it. Of course, you can use the part that is not spread spectrum, but the FCC is not going to issue a blanket approval for ROS if any part of it is spread spectrum. They are not interested in issuing approvals for programs anyway. They just said that ROS was spread spectrum when asked and spread spectrum is not allowed under 222 MHz, and had the ARRL communicate that. As a ham in the US, you simply may not emit a spread spectrum signal on HF. It is your duty to ensure that you do not, however you go about it. It is not the FCC's job to tell you what program you can use. It is the ARRL's job to interpret the regulations if asked, which, in this case, it is illegal to use ROS 16 or 1 baud on HF, or any other variation that is FHSS. 73, Skip KH6TY On 7/12/2010 3:19 PM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: That would mean if you would implement ros or similar in a multimode soft like multipsk or dm780 you would not be allowed to use it (the whole soft) in us ??? I think if only a part of the soft is forbidden to use (on transmit) all other modes can be used If for instance rtty was forbidden in germany but no other mode I can use all other modes in a given software So if in us ros hf is forbidden (but not ros mf) you could use it in us right?? Just my understanding of laws ,, but I may be wrong Sigi
Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?
Hello W2XJ. YOU are a man to my heart, You got it right on. I have tried to make that point from the day it happened. Commitment - consequences far beyond some silly ham radio stuff Commitees, study groups, legal advisors etc etc Poor Agent, what ever his or hers number was! 73 Rein W6SZ -Original Message- From: W2XJ w...@w2xj.net Sent: Jul 12, 2010 6:24 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? The FCC never said anything that was a commitment. A staff member wrote a very non committal letter basically hoping you would go away. This FCC stuff is silly. On 7/12/10 5:33 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote: Unless there is spread spectrum in ROS you cannot use it. Of course, you can use the part that is not spread spectrum, but the FCC is not going to issue a blanket approval for ROS if any part of it is spread spectrum. They are not interested in issuing approvals for programs anyway. They just said that ROS was spread spectrum when asked and spread spectrum is not allowed under 222 MHz, and had the ARRL communicate that. As a ham in the US, you simply may not emit a spread spectrum signal on HF. It is your duty to ensure that you do not, however you go about it. It is not the FCC's job to tell you what program you can use. It is the ARRL's job to interpret the regulations if asked, which, in this case, it is illegal to use ROS 16 or 1 baud on HF, or any other variation that is FHSS. 73, Skip KH6TY On 7/12/2010 3:19 PM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: That would mean if you would implement ros or similar in a multimode soft like multipsk or dm780 you would not be allowed to use it (the whole soft) in us ??? I think if only a part of the soft is forbidden to use (on transmit) all other modes can be used If for instance rtty was forbidden in germany but no other mode I can use all other modes in a given software So if in us ros hf is forbidden (but not ros mf) you could use it in us right?? Just my understanding of laws ,, but I may be wrong Sigi
Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?
Sigi You in Germany and perhaps others in Spain, Italy, France, UK, Russia should stop using ROS until Jose fixes this problem . I am sure he is sensitive to that and will respond to a temporary boycott. One should be able to do this via the amateur radio organizations, DARC. RSGB etc They send out newsletters, get out the word so that Jose wil listen. I do not think ARRL will respond, fof them it is easy, ROS is illegal to use, so why should we getting involved? 73 Rein W6SZ -Original Message- From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de Sent: Jul 12, 2010 7:19 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? That would mean if you would implement ros or similar in a multimode soft like multipsk or dm780 you would not be allowed to use it (the whole soft) in us ??? I think if only a part of the soft is forbidden to use (on transmit) all other modes can be used If for instance rtty was forbidden in germany but no other mode I can use all other modes in a given software So if in us ros hf is forbidden (but not ros mf) you could use it in us . right?? Just my understanding of laws ,, but I may be wrong Sigi
Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?
Unless there is spread spectrum in ROS you cannot use it. Of course, you can use the part that is not spread spectrum, but the FCC is not going to issue a blanket approval for ROS if any part of it is spread spectrum. They are not interested in issuing approvals for programs anyway. They just said that ROS was spread spectrum when asked and spread spectrum is not allowed under 222 MHz, and had the ARRL communicate that. As a ham in the US, you simply may not emit a spread spectrum signal on HF. It is your duty to ensure that you do not, however you go about it. It is not the FCC's job to tell you what program you can use. It is the ARRL's job to interpret the regulations if asked, which, in this case, it is illegal to use ROS 16 or 1 baud on HF, or any other variation that is FHSS. 73, Skip KH6TY On 7/12/2010 3:19 PM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: That would mean if you would implement ros or similar in a multimode soft like multipsk or dm780 you would not be allowed to use it (the whole soft) in us ??? I think if only a part of the soft is forbidden to use (on transmit) all other modes can be used If for instance rtty was forbidden in germany but no other mode I can use all other modes in a given software So if in us ros hf is forbidden (but not ros mf) you could use it in us ... right?? Just my understanding of laws ,, but I may be wrong Sigi
AW: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?
I was begging onb my knees that jose will Stopp the autospotting cause that made a lot of trouble I said that we all should stop the adif in a firewall . maybe THAT will bring jose to think But if he has made a decision there is almost no way to change his thoughts I do not know if boycott will help . but stopping adif is boycott on the spots .
Re: AW: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?
I have been followed this character Ros from the start. Sorry to say , but I'm not surprised at all . This fits in with his odd but fascinating personality. LA5VNA Steinar On 12.07.2010 23:38, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: I was begging onb my knees that jose will Stopp the autospotting cause that made a lot of trouble I said that we all should stop the adif in a firewall . maybe THAT will bring jose to think But if he has made a decision there is almost no way to change his thoughts I do not know if boycott will help . but stopping adif is boycott on the spots .
