Re: [dmarc-discuss] RUF reports

2017-01-05 Thread Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss 
A local_policy override is a discretionary choice by the receiver; it's not 
clear what choice is being made or why.


Failure reports are sent at the discretion of the receiver, and then only when 
they determine a failure, which in this case has not occurred for 
receiver-local reasons.


- Roland


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Subject: [dmarc-discuss] RUF reports

Hello,

I've been trying, albeit slowly, to determine why I haven't seen any
RUF reports since Sept 2016.

Shouldn't this RUA report also produce a corresponding RUF?

http://domainmail.org/dmarc-reports/126.com%21inug.org%211483574400%211483660799.xml

-Jim P.
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Re: [dmarc-discuss] RUF reports

2017-01-05 Thread Jim Popovitch via dmarc-discuss 
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Steven M Jones  wrote:
> On 01/05/2017 17:32, Jim Popovitch via dmarc-discuss wrote:
>> I've been trying, albeit slowly, to determine why I haven't seen any
>> RUF reports since Sept 2016.
>>
>> Shouldn't this RUA report also produce a corresponding RUF?
>
> Are you DKIM signing these messages?

No.  The msg is presumably spam sent by 171.40.246.96 (an IP I don't
have any access to) using a domain that I hold (and it's a domain that
never sends any email)

Google caught similar attempts from 159.253.38.11 using that same domain.

http://domainmail.org/dmarc-reports/google.com%21inug.org%211483401600%211483487999.xml

> Because I notice the reason given
> for the local policy override includes "Ignore dkim/spf DNS query" and
> there's no DKIM section in  - making me wonder if they had
> a problem accessing your selector, and that the comment above really
> means "our DNS query for a DKIM record received no response."
>
> Plausible? I don't see enough information to rule it out...

Interesting, but they won't find a selector for that domain on my DNS
systems as its not used for email.

-Jim P.
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Re: [dmarc-discuss] RUF reports

2017-01-05 Thread Steven M Jones via dmarc-discuss 
On 01/05/2017 17:32, Jim Popovitch via dmarc-discuss wrote:
> I've been trying, albeit slowly, to determine why I haven't seen any
> RUF reports since Sept 2016.
>
> Shouldn't this RUA report also produce a corresponding RUF?

Are you DKIM signing these messages? Because I notice the reason given
for the local policy override includes "Ignore dkim/spf DNS query" and
there's no DKIM section in  - making me wonder if they had
a problem accessing your selector, and that the comment above really
means "our DNS query for a DKIM record received no response."

Plausible? I don't see enough information to rule it out...

--S.


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Steven M Jones
CRASH Computing

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[dmarc-discuss] RUF reports

2017-01-05 Thread Jim Popovitch via dmarc-discuss 
Hello,

I've been trying, albeit slowly, to determine why I haven't seen any
RUF reports since Sept 2016.

Shouldn't this RUA report also produce a corresponding RUF?

http://domainmail.org/dmarc-reports/126.com%21inug.org%211483574400%211483660799.xml

-Jim P.
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