[EPEL-devel] Re: DNF replacement in EL 9?

2021-11-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 12:57, Neal Gompa  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:53 PM Richard Shaw  wrote:
> >
> > I was talking to a software vendor about there install instructions using 
> > yum instead of dnf for EL 8 and he took the feedback back to the 
> > development team but the response was that dnf was "going away" in EL 9...
> >
> > Did I miss something?
> >
>
> RHEL product folks hate the name "DNF", so they always call it "YUM
> powered by DNF technology". Consequently, the documentation uses "yum"
> instead of "dnf", even if it's the same thing ("yum" is a symlink to
> "dnf").

I am going to call that an inaccurate and misleading statement which I
have corrected you once before on. The product folk really really
wanted to call it dnf in the run up and to remove yum name in EL8 and
they would have loved to do so in EL9. The main issue is that the
majority of the customer base for Enterprise Linux are on the Late
Majority and later group who complained a lot about the fact that they
had just finished changing all their documentation from up2date to yum
and were not happy about doing it for a tool which used the same
command arguments as 'yum'. These are companies which move large
numbers of systems across multiple releases and want a consolidated
documentation for all the 'supported' releases. As such, yum is
probably going to be around for decades even if RHEL moved to .deb
packages.


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[EPEL-devel] Re: DNF replacement in EL 9?

2021-11-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 01:43:59PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> Further RHEL 9 documentation will center around the 'dnf' moniker,
> eventually transitioning away from yum.

Thus completing my long, slow loss of this argument. :)

Oh well! dnf it is!

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