Re: [Evolution] Problem with IMAP subscriptions

2022-06-21 Thread John A. Sullivan III
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From: John A. Sullivan III 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Problem with IMAP subscriptions
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:50:07 -0400

-Original Message-
From: John A. Sullivan III 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Evolution] Problem with IMAP subscriptions
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:43:21 -0400

Hello, all.  I'm having a nightmare of a time with IMAP subscriptions.
I have used Evolution for many, many years.  Two years ago, I added an
IMAP account from Tigertech.net and was surprised to see all my IMAP
subfolders show up under my Inbox (contrary to the Evolution
instructions). However, it worked fine.

Yesterday, I added a second account and moved those subfolders to the
new account.  All appears fine on the back end. If I use the
Tigertech.net web mail, the folders are in the new account and at the
same level as the Inbox and they are no longer under the old account.

However, now both of those accounts in Evolution initially show
subfolders but then they all disappear from the view.  When I try to
manage subscriptions, they all appear under the Inbox rather than peer
to it.  I've tried moving them to a peer level for the few moments they
appear and, it first displays them as peers but then they disappear. 
Manage subscriptions still shows them under the Inbox.

I can get them to briefly re-appear by disabling and re-enabling the
account but then they disappear and the focus jumps to the Junk folder.

I can see Evolution synchronizing the folders.  I ran Evolution from
the command line but saw no errors.  

I have restarted Evolution
Killed all processes and restart Evolution
Rebooted
Uninstalled and Purged Evolution
Uninstalled, Purged, and deleted all hidden folders for Evolution

No matter what I do, the folders show up under the Inbox in the Manage
Subscriptions dialog and they disappear from the view.

I very reluctantly tried KMail and it behaves as expected.

Most of the subfolders contain email but one subfolder contains other
folders which contain email (and one more nesting in one case).

How do I get these subscribed subfolders to again appear in Evolution?

Thanks - John

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I should mention that I occasionally see errors such as these but not
all the time:

Error while Downloading new messages for offline mode in
“jsulli...@flameoflove.info : INBOX/Countries/Fiji”.

Error fetching message: unknown body response

Error while Downloading new messages for offline mode in
“jsulli...@flameoflove.info : INBOX/Countries/Australia”.

Error fetching message: unknown body response

-
Ack! Out of practice reporting these:
I'm running Evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian 11.3
Thanks - John

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Re: [Evolution] Problem with IMAP subscriptions

2022-06-21 Thread John A. Sullivan III
-Original Message-
From: John A. Sullivan III 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Evolution] Problem with IMAP subscriptions
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:43:21 -0400

Hello, all.  I'm having a nightmare of a time with IMAP subscriptions.
I have used Evolution for many, many years.  Two years ago, I added an
IMAP account from Tigertech.net and was surprised to see all my IMAP
subfolders show up under my Inbox (contrary to the Evolution
instructions). However, it worked fine.

Yesterday, I added a second account and moved those subfolders to the
new account.  All appears fine on the back end. If I use the
Tigertech.net web mail, the folders are in the new account and at the
same level as the Inbox and they are no longer under the old account.

However, now both of those accounts in Evolution initially show
subfolders but then they all disappear from the view.  When I try to
manage subscriptions, they all appear under the Inbox rather than peer
to it.  I've tried moving them to a peer level for the few moments they
appear and, it first displays them as peers but then they disappear. 
Manage subscriptions still shows them under the Inbox.

I can get them to briefly re-appear by disabling and re-enabling the
account but then they disappear and the focus jumps to the Junk folder.

I can see Evolution synchronizing the folders.  I ran Evolution from
the command line but saw no errors.  

I have restarted Evolution
Killed all processes and restart Evolution
Rebooted
Uninstalled and Purged Evolution
Uninstalled, Purged, and deleted all hidden folders for Evolution

No matter what I do, the folders show up under the Inbox in the Manage
Subscriptions dialog and they disappear from the view.

I very reluctantly tried KMail and it behaves as expected.

Most of the subfolders contain email but one subfolder contains other
folders which contain email (and one more nesting in one case).

How do I get these subscribed subfolders to again appear in Evolution?

Thanks - John

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I should mention that I occasionally see errors such as these but not
all the time:

Error while Downloading new messages for offline mode in
“jsulli...@flameoflove.info : INBOX/Countries/Fiji”.

Error fetching message: unknown body response

Error while Downloading new messages for offline mode in
“jsulli...@flameoflove.info : INBOX/Countries/Australia”.

Error fetching message: unknown body response


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[Evolution] Problem with IMAP subscriptions

2022-06-21 Thread John A. Sullivan III
Hello, all.  I'm having a nightmare of a time with IMAP subscriptions.
I have used Evolution for many, many years.  Two years ago, I added an
IMAP account from Tigertech.net and was surprised to see all my IMAP
subfolders show up under my Inbox (contrary to the Evolution
instructions). However, it worked fine.

Yesterday, I added a second account and moved those subfolders to the
new account.  All appears fine on the back end. If I use the
Tigertech.net web mail, the folders are in the new account and at the
same level as the Inbox and they are no longer under the old account.

However, now both of those accounts in Evolution initially show
subfolders but then they all disappear from the view.  When I try to
manage subscriptions, they all appear under the Inbox rather than peer
to it.  I've tried moving them to a peer level for the few moments they
appear and, it first displays them as peers but then they disappear. 
Manage subscriptions still shows them under the Inbox.

I can get them to briefly re-appear by disabling and re-enabling the
account but then they disappear and the focus jumps to the Junk folder.

I can see Evolution synchronizing the folders.  I ran Evolution from
the command line but saw no errors.  

I have restarted Evolution
Killed all processes and restart Evolution
Rebooted
Uninstalled and Purged Evolution
Uninstalled, Purged, and deleted all hidden folders for Evolution

No matter what I do, the folders show up under the Inbox in the Manage
Subscriptions dialog and they disappear from the view.

I very reluctantly tried KMail and it behaves as expected.

Most of the subfolders contain email but one subfolder contains other
folders which contain email (and one more nesting in one case).

How do I get these subscribed subfolders to again appear in Evolution?

Thanks - John

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Re: [Evolution] Wrong send account being used by Evolution

2022-06-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-06-21 at 11:27 -0400, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote:
> Is there solution to this problem?

Hi,
when you go to Edit->Preferences->Mail Accounts, is any account marked
as a default account? I would choose that yours.

It also depends in which folder you reply/create new mail, the account
is derived from it. Thus if you manage your mails in folders under the
H@... account, then that account is used.

The Send Account Override (Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->
Sent Account) can be used for folders too. Or simply right-click the
folder and pick Properties from it, then select what account should be
used in this folder.
Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] Wrong send account being used by Evolution

2022-06-21 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
3.44.1-0ubuntu1

When the long-term hospitalization of my administrative assistant
began, I added her IMAP account to my Evolution email.  Her email
address is hxxx...@lauterbachandassociates.com while mine is
j...@lauterbachandassociates.com .  No matter what settings I make in
Composer Preferences, starting a new email or replying to an email,
Evolution insists on using hx...@lauterbachandassociates.com .

Is there solution to this problem?

Thank you,

John


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't show google contacts categories any more

2022-06-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-06-21 at 12:57 +0200, Andrea Vai wrote:
> Apart from that, as far as I understand it's all in google's hands
> and we don't have any option at the moment to see labels exported
> into the CardDAV interface, or are we aware there is any kind of plan
> for it in the future?

Hi,
I'm not aware of anything available in the CardDAV interface. The
groups the Contacts API used to expose are just not in the CardDAV.

The Google did not just close the Contacts API, they have a replacement
for it, it's the People API, but there's nobody able to port libgdata
project to use the People API, thus the move to the CardDAV interface.

> And, finally, I am thinking about adding all the categories to the
> contacts shown in evolution to reflect the google labels (>2k
> contacts, and some dozens of categories... I can do it manually
> (argh!), but could there be any semi-automated way?).

If you've a tool, which can use the People API, then you can do it,
but...

> This would lead to duplicated and not consistent data, and what if in
> the future google extends the CardDAV interface?

... I'm afraid the Google contacts won't preserver/survive/properly
synchronize the Categories with their Groups, thus all of this can be
lost some day. Even worse, I just tried to create a contact with a set
Category and it was lost/not saved to the server. Maybe once they
synchronize the groups through the categories, it'll start working on
its own, both ways, but whether they plan any such thing I do not know,
it is solely up to them (honestly, it doesn't look like a too
complicated task, but they are large and they have their own
priorities).

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't show google contacts categories any more

2022-06-21 Thread Andrea Vai
Il giorno mar, 21/06/2022 alle 12.06 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-
list ha scritto:
> The problem is on the Google side.
> 
> They deprecated the Contacts API, which used to be used in the past,
> thus the evolution-data-server switched to the Google's CardDAV
> interface, which is more standardized. Unfortunately, the Google
> doesn't export all the properties/labels to the CardDAV interface,
> thus
> some information is missing with compare to the Contacts API.

thank you Milan, this seems to me a real trouble and I am wondering if
it's the same for other users, because I use the categories at least
for two usual important tasks:

- (maybe obvious) to get a sublist of people (i.e. Team colleagues,
tennis friends, restaurants...) and call them one by one, for example

- to send email to groups of people tagged by the category field (new
message ->  click on "To:" -> select the category which belong people
I would like to write to, and add all to the list on the right side).
I don't know if that's the best way or there are other options, any
suggestion is very welcome.

Apart from that, as far as I understand it's all in google's hands and
we don't have any option at the moment to see labels exported into the
CardDAV interface, or are we aware there is any kind of plan for it in
the future?

And, finally, I am thinking about adding all the categories to the
contacts shown in evolution to reflect the google labels (>2k
contacts, and some dozens of categories... I can do it manually
(argh!), but could there be any semi-automated way?). This would lead
to duplicated and not consistent data, and what if in the future
google extends the CardDAV interface?

Thank you,
Bye
Andrea
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't show google contacts categories any more

2022-06-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-06-21 at 11:10 +0200, Andrea Vai wrote:
> I don't know if I did anything wrong, or if it's a problem in evo
> itself.

Hi,
it's neither of these. The problem is on the Google side.

They deprecated the Contacts API, which used to be used in the past,
thus the evolution-data-server switched to the Google's CardDAV
interface, which is more standardized. Unfortunately, the Google
doesn't export all the properties/labels to the CardDAV interface, thus
some information is missing with compare to the Contacts API.
Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] Evolution doesn't show google contacts categories any more

2022-06-21 Thread Andrea Vai
Hi,
  I have just realized that my Address book doesn't show contacts
categories as it usually did in the past. The contacts belong to a
google contacts address book, that is configured in evo in two ways:

- "Type: google"
- "Type: "

and both miss the categories (i.e. the "Categories" field is blank),
in both of these two scenarios:

- in a custom view where I added a "category" column;
- if I open the window of a single contact.

The categories are present, as usual, as labels in the google contacts
web page.

I don't know if I did anything wrong, or if it's a problem in evo
itself.

Running evolution 3.42.4 (3.42.4-2.fc35) on Fedora 35.

Many thanks for your kind help,
Bye
Andrea
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