[expert] testing - problems with postfix?

2003-10-14 Thread Praedor Tempus
test

I suddenly can no longer send emails from my local
mailserver.  Is THIS getting through?


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[expert] Help! Something's wack with my mailserver

2003-10-14 Thread Praedor Tempus
All was fine for a while.  I run postfix, procmail,
and fetchmail on my local box
(stonekeep.ravenhome.net).  I was able to send emails
without problem to myself, to the list, wherever. 
Now, all I get are deferred messages and timeouts on
any smtp server I try to connect to...or nameserver
problems:

What follows is what happens when I try to send an
email to myself (from stonekeep to my yahoo address):

Oct 14 20:58:49 stonekeep postfix/smtp[3083]:
CF25F846: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=0,
status=deferred (Name service error for name=yahoo.com
type=MX: Host not found, try again)

What the hell?! 

Trying to send to the expert list produces:

Oct 14 20:59:55 stonekeep postfix/smtp[3083]:
7AE61848: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none,
delay=0, status=deferred (Name service error for
name=linux-mandrake.com type=MX: Host not found, try
again)

yahoo.com and linux-mandrake.com are both valid so
what's the deal?  Since I can ping both and, of
course, both resolve properly, what is postfix's
problem here?  How do I fix this?

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Re: [expert] Help! Something's wack with my mailserver

2003-10-14 Thread Praedor Tempus
A little more info from my syslog, showing what
happens when I try a test
message to myself (to my yahoo account):

Oct 14 21:07:50 stonekeep postfix/smtp[3396]:
208C882E:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=3849,
status=deferred (connect to
mx4.mail.yahoo.com[66.218.86.253]: Network is
unreachable)
Oct 14 21:07:50 stonekeep postfix/smtp[3398]: connect
to
mx2.mail.yahoo.com[64.156.215.6]: Connection timed out
(port 25)
Oct 14 21:07:50 stonekeep postfix/smtp[3398]: connect
to
mx1.mail.yahoo.com[64.156.215.5]: Network is
unreachable (port 25)

What's with the timeouts?  I get the same thing for
messages sent from my
local box to the expert list.  I can only send
messages now if I go to the
yahoo web interface.  Local-sent messages timeout in
every single case as
above so I end up with a growing deferred mail list.

Any ideas?

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Re: [expert] Nvidia, accelerated 3D support... I'm lost

2003-09-12 Thread Praedor Tempus
Jumping in late, I want to reiterate that you must
remove MesaGL rpms if they are installed.  They will
dork up your nvidia.  

praedor
--- R N dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you have an idea of what to look at, feel free
  ;-)
  
 Only to try:
 
 do you have 
 alias /dev/nvidia*   nvidia
 into /etc/modules.conf
 do you load glx module into XF86Config-4
 and this is the correct version (did you remove
 the old driver installed by rpm first?)
 is the link into /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/
 correct?
 Did you try to write to nvidia? i did once and i had
 the solution in a day.
 
 hope can help.
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Re: [expert] 2.4.21-0.25 hates my thinkpad

2003-08-20 Thread Praedor Tempus
I actually have now tried and failed to build
kernel-2.4.22-0.6mdk (from cooker).  I upgraded
kernel-utils (built from source rpm so it would be
cool with MDK 9.1) and then tried building the kernel.
 No go.  First off, xconfig doesn't work so I had to
go with menuconfig (no problem with 2.4.21-0.13mdk). 
It built just fine but when installing the kernel
(make install) it failed to find a bzImage and didn't
install a vmlinuz to go with the build.  No amount of
tinkering/manual file play would get around this.  I
haven't yet tried (again) to go to 2.4.21-0.25mdk via
your method.  At this point, I give up and will, I
suppose, wait for 9.2 and HOPE that the kernel is all
cool and functional on my laptop.

praedor

--- James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 09:29, Michael Lothian wrote:
  Try one of the tmb kernels
  
  http://www.netikka.net/tmb/
  
  I use the cooker one and it's the most stableist
 I've used
  
  Oh and remember to use the latest version of
 kernel utils
  
 

ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-utils-1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm
  
  Mike
 
 Praedor I had the same trouble and found out that
 the initrd.img was
 bad.  Deleted it.  Recreated it, ignored the
 warnings and I was able get
 it running.  One note the only way I could create a
 working 25mdk kernel
 (or 18 for that matter) was to first boot into the
 stock 25mdk as
 distributed and then create my initrd.  For whatever
 reason from 13mdk I
 couldn't create a working initrd for 18 or 25.
 
 James
 
  
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  I have an IBM Stinkpad that has been running
 Mandrake for several years 
  without problem.  It currently runs 9.1 and
 2.4.21-0.13mdk without problems.  
  I have tried building -0.18mdk and, most
 recently, -0.25mdk kernels but 
  neither works.  Since 0.25mdk is the latest,
 here's the deal with it.  
  
  I used the same config as I did to build my
 0.13mdk kernel which works 
  perfectly.  When I restart after the
 build/install, it refuses to bootup.  
  Instead, as soon as it loads linux, the screen
 blanks/goes black and the 
  system restarts.  No error message appears, or if
 it does it comes and goes 
  too fast to see.  I then rebuilt it from scratch,
 manually selecting or 
  deselecting options as always.  The main
 selection I go for vs the default 
  kernel is in GRSECURITY - I select a number of
 the network security 
  options...nothing that should in any way, shape,
 or form, prevent bootup.  
  
  I try rebooting after install and, as before, I
 select linux, the screen 
  blanks, it indicates its loading linux but then
 blank, reboot, ad infinitum.  
  The only way to get back up is to bootup my old
 0.13mdk kernel.
  
  No error messages appear in any logs, it occurs
 too soon and too rapidly. 
  What's up with all the kernels beyond 0.13mdk
 that renders them unusable on 
  an IBM Thinkpad 1412 (celery 366)?  
  
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Re: [expert] STOOOOPIDITY...

2003-07-25 Thread Praedor Tempus
I have run into this insanely annoying behavior before
too.  I have LOTS of hdd space but I did not give /tmp
it's own multigigabyte partition, just an unreasonably
large 800 MBs.  I download to /usr/local/download,
period.  It exists on my system for downloads because
it has LOTS of space dedicated to it.  I a link to it
in my home dir and have rwx access to this directory. 
I have been screwed by other apps downloading files
due to lack of hdd space, however - all due to /tmp
not being gigabytes in size.

A temp fix:  do a mv /tmp /tmp-old and creat a new
/tmp that is a link to your REAL download location. 
Once the download completes, delete the symlink and mv
/tmp-old to /tmp again.

praedor

--- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:01:25 -0400
 Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  WHY do browser writers insist they know more about
 the operating
  environment than the user...?
 
 If you are going to use a browser to dl use opera.
 
 As to dl location both mozilla and galeon Will use
 your selected
 location But as you noted until the dl is complete
 both use /tmp,
 which is fine for most dls but for ISOs there will
 not sufficient space.
 
 
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Re: [expert] 2.4.21 athlon-xp optimized mm kernel

2003-07-09 Thread Praedor Tempus
Question...I have built/tried the 2.4.21-0.17mm-mdk
kernel and found it to be too slow for most
activities.  Perhaps it is great for multimedia but
anything else...
  Is the previous version -0.16mdkmm somehow superior
to -0.17mm-mdk?
--- Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For those interested, I recompiled the
 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk kernel with pretty 
 aggresive athlon-xp optflags, and it works fine.
 These flags also work on 
 other kernels I have tried. The trick in making them
 take when compiling 
 kernels is putting them in the
 linux-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk/arch/i386/Makefile, in 
 the following manner.
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Re: [expert] Radeon 9200

2003-07-09 Thread Praedor Tempus
Wow.  You would like to pay for a top-end 3D
acceleration card but only seek to use the 2D
rendering?  I would think that you would do quite well
to simply stick with Matrox or lower end ATI or NVidia
cards with decent memory (say 64 MB) and you would be
set for all 2D and DVD viewing.  It seems such a waste
of money to buy something like a (weakly supported)
ATI 9200 and only use the simple 2D acceleration it
offers.

praedor
--- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the reply, Seppo.  I'm on very unfamiliar
 territory here.  
 I don't play games, so I've never kept up with what
 is happening on 
 the graphics card scene, and I sometimes get caught
 out with the fact 
 that names/phrases used don't always mean what I
 thought they mean 
 g
 
 Graphics acceleration is only important in so far as
 it is used in dvd 
 playback - and my old Matrox G400 handles that
 satisfactorily.  Since 
 the 9200 is not mentioned in the 'families' on the
 ATi website, 
 should I expect that it will function satisfactorily
 in basic 
 graphics, though not necessarily giving much in the
 way of 
 acceleration, rather like my current card?
 
 For 'video capture' they are recommending the
 TVWonder and TVWonder 
 VE.  When they talk about 'video capture' are they
 meaning capture 
 from tv signals?  Although nice, this is not
 important to me, but I 
 do want to be able to capture video from my
 camcorder.  I see that 
 they say that video4linux2 is needed for video
 capture, and gatos for 
 dvd playback.
 
 I would be grateful for any advice from you or
 anyone else with more 
 experience of video card and video capture, as I am
 completely out of 
 my depth here.
 
 Anne
 
 On Wednesday 09 Jul 2003 6:18 am, Seppo Jarvinen
 wrote:
  I use Radeon All-In-Wonder with all functions
 available.
 
  you need to use Gatos project drivers to get
 everything working.
 
  http://gatos.sf.net/
 
  On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 22:34, Anne Wilson wrote:
   The tv card that I was going to buy turned out
 not to have any
   s-video input.  I took it back to the vendor,
 who said they
   didn't have one that I could use (I want to
 attach my camcorder),
   and suggested changing my graphics card to a
 Radeon 9200
   Atlantis.  He said that one of their employees
 had said that he
   had used this card with linux - but I have
 looked at the ATi site
   and there is no linux driver for this model.  Is
 anyone using it?
  
   Anne
  
  
  

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[expert] heretic2 and sound in mandrake 9.1

2003-07-09 Thread Praedor Tempus
It has been a while since I last played this game but
now I have some family visiting and at least one of
these visitors would like to pass some time playing
it.  I installed it last night, got it working with my
NVidia Ti4200 just fine, but I have no sound and it
looks to be a libSDL issue of some sort.
  Has anyone managed to get this game working with
sound in Mandrake 9.1 (or 9.0 which is likely similar
enough for me to copy)?  I have all the libSDL rpms
installed that came with 9.1 but perhaps one is
missing that is needed by this game?

praedor

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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
I am one who hasn't had problems, per se, with
supermount in 9.1 or 9.0 (or others).  Supermount
causes problems, however, if you wish to use k3b, the
kde cdburner app.  It is a nice looking app but I
cannot get it to work with my system setup with
supermount, though I have no problems with X-CDroast
or eroaster w/supermount.  

So, I suppose it depends on your system and what you
wish to do.  The fstab entries required/created by k3b
are incompatible with supermount (unless someone can
set me right on this).

praedor 


--- charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:27 pm, Sevatio had this to
 contribute :-
  I'm preparing to install LM9.1.  I was just
 wondering if LM9.1 still has
supermount problems like LM9.0 had.
 
 It seems to depend who you talk to. I have trouble
 with all supermounts, 
 others have none apparently when reading this list.
 
 Charlie
 
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[expert] kernel-2.4.21-0.18mdk woes

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
I have built and installed the 2.4.21-0.18mdk kernel
three times now without error.  I have also generated
the initrd and run lilo with success post build.  Thus
far it has been impossible to bootup the kernel,
however.  I can bootup my stock 2.4.21-0.13mdk and
-0.13mdkcustom but cannot begin to boot
2.4.21-0.18mdkcustom (same config as -0.13mdkcustom). 
All I get is a black/blank screen after lilo.  No
errors, no kernel panic message, nothing.  Then, after
about 2 seconds, the system reboots and this cycle
will continue forever (linux default bootup of
course).  I cannot even start it in failsafe.
   At the moment I am back to 2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom
until/unless I can get a working -0.18mdk build.  My
system is an AMD Athlon XP2700+ with MSI KT333 mobo. 
Mandrake 9.1 with all the pertinent updates save the
kernel, of course.
   Anyone see this sort of thing before?  Have any
ideas how to get a bootup or even a kernel panic out
of this?
praedor

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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
Hmpf.  My supermount setup has both my CDROM and CDRW
setup as scsi-ide.  If I try k3b, it fails to see
them.  All the other cdburner apps work fine with
this.

praedor

--- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Praedor Tempus wrote:
  I am one who hasn't had problems, per se, with
  supermount in 9.1 or 9.0 (or others).  Supermount
  causes problems, however, if you wish to use k3b,
 the
  kde cdburner app.  It is a nice looking app but I
  cannot get it to work with my system setup with
  supermount, though I have no problems with
 X-CDroast
  or eroaster w/supermount.  
  
  So, I suppose it depends on your system and what
 you
  wish to do.  The fstab entries required/created by
 k3b
  are incompatible with supermount (unless someone
 can
  set me right on this).
 
 Praedor,
 
 I may be the exception to the rule, but K3b and
 supermount work just 
 fine on my Mdk 9.1 laptop. I've got separate mount
 points for cdrom and 
 cdrecorder, and it seems to work fine that way.
 However, if I remember 
 correctly, I *did* need to setuid root on the
 cdrecord and cdrdao 
 programs. They are setuid in any case. This is
 obviously a security 
 risk, but my laptop is mostly single-user (my wife
 occasionally plays 
 Frozen Bubble on it).
 
 -- 
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Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
I had thought that allowing k3b to install new lines
into fstab, redundant entries for my /dev/cdrom and
/dev/cdrom2, would cause problems.  I thought that
these k3b-added lines needed to be in replacement for
the supermount entries.  Having semi-redundant lines
in fstab with and without supermount doesn't cause any
problems?  

praedor

--- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Praedor Tempus wrote:
  Hmpf.  My supermount setup has both my CDROM and
 CDRW
  setup as scsi-ide.  If I try k3b, it fails to see
  them.  All the other cdburner apps work fine with
  this.
  
  praedor
 
 In fstab, my cdrom mount point is setup for
 supermount, but my 
 cdrecorder mount point is *not* setup for supermount
 -- K3b mounts it on 
 demand, and presumably unmounts the cdrom mount
 point at the same time, 
 so there are no conflicts.
 
 If *both* mount points are setup for supermount, but
 they use the same 
 device, wouldn't this be rather ...
 counterproductive?
 
 -- 
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Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.21-0.18mdk woes

2003-07-07 Thread Praedor Tempus
My lilo entry have vga=788.  I don't recall the
failsafe entry (whatever default the system makes it
as during install).  I haven't tried starting throught
the no-framebuffer entry as yet.  I could try that
this evening.

Is there a framebuffer issue with the 0.18 kernel?

praedor

--- Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 are you trying to use a frame buffer? vga=normal?
 
 On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 09:54, Praedor Tempus wrote:
  I have built and installed the 2.4.21-0.18mdk
 kernel
  three times now without error.  I have also
 generated
  the initrd and run lilo with success post build. 
 Thus
  far it has been impossible to bootup the kernel,
  however.  I can bootup my stock 2.4.21-0.13mdk and
  -0.13mdkcustom but cannot begin to boot
  2.4.21-0.18mdkcustom (same config as
 -0.13mdkcustom). 
  All I get is a black/blank screen after lilo.  No
  errors, no kernel panic message, nothing.  Then,
 after
  about 2 seconds, the system reboots and this cycle
  will continue forever (linux default bootup of
  course).  I cannot even start it in failsafe.
 At the moment I am back to 2.4.21-0.13mdkcustom
  until/unless I can get a working -0.18mdk build. 
 My
  system is an AMD Athlon XP2700+ with MSI KT333
 mobo. 
  Mandrake 9.1 with all the pertinent updates save
 the
  kernel, of course.
 Anyone see this sort of thing before?  Have any
  ideas how to get a bootup or even a kernel panic
 out
  of this?
  praedor
  
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Re: [expert] Newsflash: Gentoo has forked.

2003-06-26 Thread Praedor Tempus
Didn't gentoo itself derive from a fork (of Sorcerer)
some year or so ago?

praedor

--- Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Gentoo has been one of MDK's greatest competitors so
 far, maintaining
 fourth place at Distrowatch.com right behind Red
 Hat.  Mandrake of course
 has almost consistently maintained it's first place
 position there.
 
 I find it interesting that so far we in the Mandrake
 world have avoided
 forking, thus maintaining our strength in
 concentrated form.  Even though
 there are disagreements and disputes.  It shows the
 strength of the
 Mandrake community.
 
 Mandrakians seem to be strong in that they are able
 to put up with
 disagreements and flaws without getting totally
 annoyed and just leavi?g.
  I think this is because mainly that we have voices
 in the form of votes
 and the mailing lists.  As well as the forums.  So
 there is the
 impression that everyone is helping to some degree.
 
 http://www.zynot.org/info/faq.html
 
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Re: [expert] Multimedia-Kernel

2003-06-26 Thread Praedor Tempus
I tried the mm kernel and then went back to the
regular kernel (built from source with some of the
grsecurity features enabled).  The mm kernel is slower
than the rgular kernel for most non-mm stuff, so
unless you do a lot of mm work, it isn't worth the
switch.

praedor

--- KevinO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 James Sparenberg wrote:
  ... low latency is built in along with a number of
  other things for doing realtime audio and video
 editing.  Most of this
  came about from trying to get a multimedia tool
 called (IIRC) Jack.
 
 Cool -- you know Jack.(the audio server?)
 
 People are constantly reminding me that I don't Jack
 ;-)
 
 (Even right now whilst I am drinking Jack)
 
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Re: [expert] [OT] Open/StarOffice and MS-office

2003-06-26 Thread Praedor Tempus
Then, in OO at least, it should be possible to disable
this disabled import (re-enable unprotected import of
pword m$ docs).

--- Guy Van Sanden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 

http://www.hos.horizon.ie/staroffice/techfaq.html#1q21
 22.
 Q. 
 
 Why can I not import
 password protected MS
 Office files?
 
  
  
 A. 
 
 Microsoft does not
 specify how they protect
 their files, so we
 cannot simply import
 them as
 password-protected files
 in StarOffice 6.0
 software. Microsoft does
 not encrypt their
 protected files. In the
 past, we simply imported
 those documents as
 unprotected files.
 Naturally, this
 represents a security
 violation and most
 enterprises were not
 happy about that. As a
 result, we blocked the
 import capability for
 password-protected files
 and they can no longer
 be imported at all.
 
  
 Does anyone know if this is true?  Doe it go for the
 newer version of
 office?
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] Failed compilation of kdelibs-3.1-58mdk.src.rpm

2003-06-25 Thread Praedor Tempus
When KDE was young (1.x to 2.0 days) I would rebuild
the KDE source rpms without problems.  Since late in
the 2.x and into the 3.x versions I have given up on
rebuilding the rpms.  Somewhere along the line the
complexity and just plain difficulty of getting the
rpms to build got to be too much.  I would
consistently fail to get either kdebase and/or kdelibs
built.  After fiddling with them for a time, I gave up
and have since stuck with the binary rpms.

Somethin' ain't right in the KDE source somewhere -
you meet all the dependencies and still can't get it
to build.  There is a magic trick performed by the KDE
developers and/or Mandrake that does manage to get it
all built with all the nice extra support switches
activated...but they ain't telling the how of their
magic trick.


--- Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been trying to do this stuff for a few months
 with some successes, and 
 some mysterious failures- here's a link to a forum
 at pclinuxonline with lots 
 of great info on this subject. I still haven't
 solved the kdelibs and base 
 rebuilding either. Your Duron needs the tbird opt
 flag. 
 
 There are more optflags you should investigate- you
 can add them to the stock 
 Mandrakes, and you really should create a building
 tree in your /home 
 directory  so you can build as user intead of root.
 My posts are under 
 wrc1944.
 
 Robert Crawford
 

http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?mop=modloadname=Forumsfile=viewforumforum=11
 
 
 On Tuesday 24 June 2003 04:27, Huw Blackwell wrote:
  Okay guys,
 
  A bit stumped by this one, I am trying to optimize
 Mandrake 9.1 for my
  computer by re-compiling the rpm source pacakges.
 I've hit a bit of a
  brick wall with kdelibs, which of course, kde base


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[expert] Problems after bios upgrade

2003-06-09 Thread Praedor Tempus
I recently picked up an Athlon XP2700+ to replace my
Duron 1100.  The switch went fine except my [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobo
apparently doesn't support anything greater than an
XP1500+.  It is an MSI KT333 ultra and the manual says
it can do a 200MHz FSB, etc, which would support the
chip but...in any case, this is true, it seems, only
with windoze when using a special MSI-supplied
application for overclocking.  
  I downloaded the latest bios upgrade for this mobo
thinking/hoping it would add support for XP2000 and
higher chips but.  After upgrading the bios, Windoze
ME still fires up just fine but Linux is hosed.  I can
boot up in failsafe mode and from there start up
graphics and networking just fine as root.  If I try
to login from failsafe as a user, if fails to start
XFree.  This isn't the main problem at this point,
however.  The primary problem is if I try to startup
linux via a normal kernel and graphical startup, I get
a screen full of error messages having to do with
unable to touch /var/lock/subsys/whatever no such
file or directory and I also get an error message
about being unable to mount most of my partitions
because their /dev/hd* entries do not exist. 
Ultimately, the bootup fails when the system gets to
the point of trying to start the system logger, at
which point it just sits for a long time and then the
screen goes blank and that's it.
  Why would I be able to start up just fine, graphics
and all, all my partitions, all my /var/lock/...
files, etc, from failsafe all the way to graphics (but
only for root) but not be able to do the same from a
normal bootup?  How do I go about fixing this?
  Since I can get in as root via failsafe I am not yet
ready to try reinstalling and feel that the system
MUST be salvagable, but where to start?  And why would
a bios upgrade do this in such an odd manner,
affecting only the graphical bootup but leaving the
failsafe bootup (to graphics) intact?

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[expert] Lyx for Mandrake 9.0 with QT UI

2003-02-08 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I tried posting this to the list yesterday but it never appeared in the 
list(?).  If any of you are lyx users you may appreciate the Qt frontend in 
place of the ugly/clunky xforms frontend.  An individual in the lyx-users 
list has produced a Mandrake 9.0 Lyx rpm with the Qt frontend instead of the 
default xforms frontend.  It is very nice.  

It is available at ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/bin/lyx/1.3.0

It is a major pain to build lyx with the Qt frontend.  Many have tried and 
failed.  This one works nicely if you have kde 3.0.3 and its qt3.x installed.  
You should be able to  install and use it by using --nodeps (I did).  It will 
likely complain about needing qt if you don't use nodeps, even though you 
have it installed.  A quirk associated with the needs of building the lyx Qt 
frontend.  

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Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem - resolved in OO

2003-02-07 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I submitted a bug report to openoffice.org about this problem and it has now 
been resolved in the latest build.  There was a bug in the code that allowed 
for/created an empty OLE object on one of the slides and this prevented the 
export.  It has been corrected in the latest build of OO, which makes the 
frame around the empty OLE object visable so it can be deleted.  Once 
deleted, the presentation saves as powerpoint just fine.

praedor
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Re: [expert] Kernel upgrade failure :(

2003-02-07 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Friday 07 February 2003 08:14 am, stefmit wrote:
[...]
 busybox: unresolved symbol drop_super_Rc64cc0dd4
 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k reiserfs, errno=2
 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k freereiserfs, errno=2
 kernel panic: no init found ...

Well, well. You are experiencing the same problem I ran into with any 2.4.20 
kernel.  Originally I was having problems with XFS, getting the same errors 
as above but referring to XFS.  I then found that the XFS module was DOA wrt 
to gcc 3.2.  I switched my system to ReiserFS and tried again.  Same error 
you get above.  I am not using a 2.4.20 kernel, and have instead retained my 
8.2 custom kernel built with gcc-2.96.  If built with gcc3.2, it too goes 
looney the way your kernel is.  

You could try building with gcc-2.96, a proven workhorse.  Or you could use 
the solid 8.2 kernel (2.4.18) and still build it with gcc-2.96 but have a 
fully working kernel.

praedor

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Re: [expert] supermount

2003-02-05 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 05 February 2003 07:41 am, SainTiss wrote:
 I enabled supermount through the MDK control center, but this is what I
 got in fstab now:

 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount
 dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,users 0
 0

I love supermount.  It works for me on 8.2 and 9.0.  I have 2 cdroms (1 cdrom, 
1 cdburner).  My working entry for my cd burner on /mnt/cdrom2 is:

none  /mnt/cdrom2  supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto, 
ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0

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Re: [expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?

2003-02-04 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I take responsibility for posting OT on the list.  I would do it again but 
perhaps in doing so I should have specified an off-list, direct reply to me 
rather than in the list.  Newsgroups are sometimes too slow and I needed info 
ASAP (like within an hour or so).  

I hoped to dialog with someone in the know directly rather than on the list.  
Or I expected someone to perhaps say Yeah, I'm the person you are looking 
for, tell me about your problem, which would have prompted me to directly 
(offlist) correspond with the person.

This list happens to be quite quick with responses (usually), thus I made use 
of the best resource I had available.

praedor

On Monday 03 February 2003 09:39 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Monday 03 February 2003 04:06 pm, Todd Lyons wrote:
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  Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote on Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 03:51:40PM -0500
 
   Thank you for the help...NOT.  In any case, the OT DOES provide
   warning that it isn't ON TOPIC and you can read at your own risk.
 
  It's also a flag to list owners that the user is abusing the purpose and
  intent of said list.
 
   It sure beats the other OT thread on the list the other day.  Be
   thankful.
 
  Please don't post OT posts.  Be a leader, not a follower.
[...]

 Todd:
 With all due respect, putting this thread in the same category as that mess
 last week is a huge leap. For one thing, this hardly a controversial topic.
 For another, I doubt that I'll be block-deleting great numbers of comments
 on this thread for the next five or six days before losing my cool.
[...]
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[expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem

2003-02-03 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I have a starimpress presentation that I must save as a powerpoint 
presentation.  Trying to do so from either staroffice 6.0 or OO 1.0.1 fails 
with a beep and a General error input/output error.  

Is there some limitation/issue with these packages with regards to saving to 
powerpoint?  

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Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem

2003-02-03 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Monday 03 February 2003 08:08 am, Thomas Sourmail wrote:
  with a beep and a General error input/output error.

 You are not trying to save on a fat32 partition, are you ?

 Apart from the fact that soffice won't read those, I had weird problems
 with nfs and MS formats. I could save as staroffice/openoffice own formats
 on nfs, but got systematic crashes when trying to write a ppt or xls
 formated file on nfs. No clue why.

I am merely trying to save the file to my local XFS partition.  I am also 
having problems saving it to ReiserFS.  It doesn't even TRY to save, the 
error is instantaneous with hitting save as powerpoint.

No errors show up on the CLI if I start either OO or SO from the CLI.  

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[expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?

2003-02-03 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I REALLY need some fast help with a simple statistics question but I am not 
real strong on statistics.  I have a question regarding Fisher's exact: is it 
a legitimate test to run on a particular set of data I have.

I need help fast.  Anyone with knowledge about this who can help me...I would 
be eternally grateful.

praedor
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Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem

2003-02-03 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Monday 03 February 2003 01:45 pm, et wrote:
 ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint,
 so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new
 presentation, and it saved with no problem.

Hell's bells.  Hmpf.  Being an emergency, I tried other options and have 
decided to go with pdf.  Staroffice, I found, cannot create (in this case at 
least) a valid/useable pdf file.  By printing instead to a postscript file 
(SO does BEAUTIFUL postscript) and then using ps2pdfwr I get an equally 
gorgeous pdf file.  My committee will have to make do with a pdf file as I 
have already generated it and tested it.

Thanks for the attempts (and possible answer).  I will have to try the 
copy-paste to a new file.  Must be some wierd bit somewhere in the 
presentation.

praedor

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Re: [expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?

2003-02-03 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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Thank you for the help...NOT.  In any case, the OT DOES provide warning that 
it isn't ON TOPIC and you can read at your own risk.  

It sure beats the other OT thread on the list the other day.  Be thankful.

On Monday 03 February 2003 03:44 pm, Seth Zirin wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:59, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
  I REALLY need some fast help with a simple statistics question but I am
  not real strong on statistics.  I have a question regarding Fisher's
  exact: is it a legitimate test to run on a particular set of data I have.
 
  I need help fast.  Anyone with knowledge about this who can help me...I
  would be eternally grateful.

 How is this even remotely related to Mandrake Linux?  Why are you
 wasting everyone's resources for unrelated math questions that you could
 likely answer yourself with five minutes of effort searching google?

 Seth

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Re: [expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?

2003-02-03 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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Seth will be pleased to know I did acquire an answer by aid from this list, no 
less, which led me to a website which led me to a PERSON who was able to help 
me out with my specific situation.

Thanks to those who did offer aid in various forms.

On Monday 03 February 2003 04:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
  I REALLY need some fast help with a simple statistics question but I am
  not real strong on statistics.  I have a question regarding Fisher's
  exact: is it a legitimate test to run on a particular set of data I have.
 
  I need help fast.  Anyone with knowledge about this who can help me...I
  would be eternally grateful.

 I'm familiar with it in the sense that I've given a couple statistics
 lectures concerning R (http://www.r-project.org/) and Linux (see, you're
 somewhat on topic after all).

 Fisher's exact is, of course, a correlation test and its applicability
 depends entirely on your data set and what you're trying to accomplish.

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Re: [expert] Compiling new KDE tarballs

2003-02-02 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
On Sunday 02 February 2003 01:47 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
  On this same note... When I was trying to compile the KDE 3.1 package=20
  kdelibs, I got some weird compile errors that appeared to be simple
  synta= x=20
[...]

I haven't been able to successfully build KDE sources since somewhere around 
kde 2.2.x days.  No matter what I do, no matter that I install ALL possible 
development tools and libs.  KDE refuses to build.  I ultimately gave up 
trying to build it from source, unfortunately.  The KDE package is by far the 
most problematic source to build of anything I have ever tried.

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Re: [expert] Wishes for Mandrake and 9.1

2003-02-02 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
On Sunday 02 February 2003 05:03 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
[...]
 The one point that is an extreme weakness for all the distro's and
 should be a natural for MDK is with laptops. I for one have been
 struggling mightily with wirelss for 2 weeks.  Still haven't gottne it
 to work right been through 4 cards ... have given up on cardbus ... down
 graded to 8.0 and now have a 16 bit pcmcia netgear MA401RA working...
 for up to 20 seconds before a hard lockup.  I've googled till I'm blue

I have wireless working OK with 8.2 and 9.0 (though 9.0 was a struggle).  I 
use, on my IBM Thinkpad 1412 (old celeron 366 system), currently MDK 8.2 with  
a Zoomair wireless card (prism2) that has worked perfectly with both the 
linux-wlan-ng driver and my personal preference, the hostap driver which lets 
it also act as an access point (works well).  

On my desktop, I currently have 9.0 running with kernel 2.4.18 from 8.2 (I 
rebuilt it from source) and have a WUSB11 v2.6 usb device using the Atmel 
driver.  It is working fine right now and has for days.  I AM afraid to 
shutdown the system because I am not certain that when it comes back up that 
the USB wireless will still be working (what an ordeal).  

Neither system locks up nor loses connectivity.

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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This is WAY offtopic and would be better suited for an alt.* newsgroup.  As a 
US Desert Storm veteran and now reservist, I think I can speak for EVERYONE 
that Bush is an idiot, in fact, he truly is the most ignorant, ill-educated 
president that the US has EVER had and that his actions, politics, and 
behavior is an unfortunate expression of this fact.  Lets just leave it here 
at what we ALL can and must agree on because these are simple, objective 
facts.  

There, all fixed.  Now this topic can die.


On Wednesday 29 January 2003 08:57 am, Chuck Burns wrote:
 On Wed, January 29 2003 7:55 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 *snip*

  BTW: What doo you think is the German way of today? From your
  statement I doubt that you have any clue.

 I think the Germans are so scared of their OWN past, that they will allow
 ANY country to do whatever they want to do to their OWN people, as long as
 the cowardly germans have to do nothing!

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:08 am, tarvid wrote:

 I like my horse, even though he is over 30 now.

30?!  Wow.  What kind of horse is he?  Have you retired him to pasture grazing 
or do you actually still ride him?

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:27 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 08:36 -0600, Chuck Burns wrote:
  FACT: The French have oil contracts with Iraq.

 Aha! Now we are seeing some real beef. The French have and the US have
 not? (You may recognize that I'm coming down to your level of arguing
 slowly but surely).

There is a little thing of lost oil field control by US oil companies as a 
result of all the Desert Storm, etc, ugliness.  Bush would love nothing more 
than to install a friendly leader in Iraq who would then turn over the oil 
fields in question to their former US oil company owners.  Ties into both 
Bush's and Cheny's former business partners in the business.


  FACT: Nearly all the Iraqi weapons are of old Soviet design, where did
  they get these designs? Russia and her neighbors, under the old USSR

 So let me see, whre we have all old weapons from Russia with love:
 German criminals use them, some dozen countries in Africa use them,
 Pakistan has some, 

I was on B-52s in Desert Storm.  The Soviet stuff had my attention (I was an 
electronic warfare officer - bomber electronic defensive systems) but the 
only weapons I actually had any fear of were the US-supplied HAWK missile 
systems.  We were geared to deal with Soviet equipment and there is just not 
a lot that can be done to a HAWK missile wrt jamming/spoofing.  

[...]
 It all boils down to the situation that Mr. Bush and his followers are
 like a French Terrier dog, getting up on his hindfeet ready to be
 unleashed to get at his prey.

Bush is also in a precarious position, primed to lose the next election for 
sure depending on how it plays out.  He is spending billions of dollars on 
sending troops to the Gulf in preparation for war.  The longer they sit there 
idle, the less effective they become (for soldiers it is just wearying to sit 
around waiting for something to happen - doesn't mean they need to be 
warmongers - I'm not.  It is a matter of fact that the longer you have to sit 
around, the less effective you will be).  Also, the longer they just sit 
there, the more the expenses pile up.  Ding! Ding! Ding!  That is the sound 
of deficits skyrocketing (after 8 years of steady decline under a truly 
intelligent and good, if not libido-riddled, previous president).  If our 
troops have to sit there too long, it will hurt the US financially and, more 
importantly to the current administration, it will hurt chances of 
re-election.  It wont matter if Osama finally is caught and Iraq is crushed 
if it ends up wrecking the US economy for several years - Bush will lose 
re-election.  He can't have that so better to smash Saddam NOW, regardless of 
what almost anybody else things, and get the boys back, reducing the 
financial costs and better ensuring chances of re-election.

Plus, he wants to give his daddy a present.  Stupid kid.

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:35 am, tarvid wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:07 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
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  On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:08 am, tarvid wrote:
   I like my horse, even though he is over 30 now.
 
  30?!  Wow.  What kind of horse is he?  Have you retired him to pasture
  grazing or do you actually still ride him?

 Norwegian Fjord and more of a retired cart horse than a trail horse. My
 daughter rides him on ocassion.

 He prefers cookies to grass although he manages to keep his 7 acre paddock
 rather close.

The one horse keeps 7 acres close?  Are the goats helping in this regard?  
I/we had 2 horses and 5 acres of pasture - they'd keep patches of it close 
while other sections grew long enough to require mowing now and again (they 
don't like fescue - out pasture is a mix of fescue and...something else I 
don't recall).

Now we have the original 2 quarter horses and a Percheron that was 
acquired/rescued 3 months ago. He was donated to the local university 
veterinarian school where my wife works.  This meant he was almost certain to 
be euthanized after a little educational use by veterinarian students.  We 
couldn't have that.  We are hoping that this third horse wont overstress the 
pasture come spring and summer.

 I keep a few goats - cashmeres, saanens and alpines.

 The place is blessed with a few dozen wild turkeys.

Sound wonderful.  No turkeys here (unfortunately - though we do see them 
around in the more forested portions of Indiana) but we have hawks, falcons, 
bald eagles, golden eagles, jack-rabbits, and my personal favorite, coyotes.  

The stench from the hog farm down the road wafts this way which gives me a 
hazy perspective but for entirely different reasons, I think, than your 
place does for you ;)

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:53 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 09:38, Chuck Burns wrote:
  On Wed, January 29 2003 8:32 am, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
  *snip*
 
   Yes, I know that one and I just love it.
   It's a very good example of putting the words so extreme that only a
   very dumb person doesn't realize it's a joke with a very serious
   background.
 
  I see that you completely ignored my post, and focused instead on my
  auto-generated fortune-sig.  That must have taken a total lack of guts.

 That's right, Chuck; that's exactly what you would expect from a
 brainwashed socialist liberal with absolutely no facts on their side

Guys, PLEASE!  Uncalled for, ugly, and way too knee-jerk U.S.A.-conservative.
Let's please cut the personal name-calling.  Just stick to discussing Bush's 
lack of any real education and utter lack of curiosity about anything of 
which he is ignorant (this last part about utter lack of curiosity is cribbed 
from a newspaper article appearing in a local Indiana paper about a week ago 
- - the words are from a CONSERVATIVE journalist who spent time at the White 
House with Bush and friends for a while...can't recall his name right now).

Oh for the days when we had a President who actually read BOOKS (comics, 
sports pages from newspapers don't count - nor do the stock market pages).  

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:29 am, Franki wrote:

 3. Oil, I don't recall hearing that the Oil fields that the US liberated in
 Desert storm are now owned by the US did I miss some important news
 flyer here??? who is running Kuwait now???  I wasn't aware it was the

No oil fields were taken after desert storm.  In previous years when we were 
fast friends with Iraq, US oil companies invested a lot in Iraqi oil 
development/oil fields.  Not very different than France, Russia, etc.  When 
we decided that Iraq was no longer a friend (it was never a nice place - 
Saddam hasn't changed between then and now) it lost us those investments.  
It's kind of like the rabid, illogical hatred/fear that many Republicans have 
wrt Cuba.  Cuba is SUCH a threat (that is sarcasm, by the way).  They are 
s evil.  No.  What makes them sooo evil and bad is the lost investment 
that US companies suffered when it fell to Castro - not that the previous 
Cuban situation that the US gov't LIKED was good for the local citizens, but 
that doesn't matter because US companies were squeezing big bucks from their 
investments in Cuba.  

A not-insignificant part of the US gov't drive to go after Saddam/Iraq is oil.  
It certainly wont upset US oil companies if they will regain access to their 
investments.

praedor

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:46 am, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote:
 I beg your all pardon but I could not keep my fingers away from the
 keyboard after such a stupid things written below.
[...]
 Pardon Praedor, but I could not help myself considering this subject over.
 However I shall not write anymore about it.

Heh!  I'm as guilty as you are in writing on the subject.  It is immensely 
difficult to hold the tongue (fingers?) when certain things are stated.  
Plus, I wanted to make sure that within the USA chorus there were a number of 
US citizens with contrary views to those of the court-appointed US president 
and his apologists - I count several besides myself in this list thus far.  
Not all Americans respond with reflex support for what the current person in 
the White House says.

I just loved some of his proposals:  the one where he mentions saving the 
forests from being ravaged by fires - HAH!  That is newspeak for give full 
access to timber companies so they can thin the trees, particularly that 
nasty old-growth garbage...totally ignoring the fact that controlled burning 
is superior to cutting timber in this regard.  Amazing how the extensive 
(one-time) forests of the North American continent managed to exist at all 
for so many thousands of years without such protectors as Bush Republicans 
being there to cut it all to shreds for its own good.

His give the elderly access to drug benefits means giving up their long-time 
doctors and joining a least-common-denominator HMO where any treatment that 
actually may extend/save lives is deemed experimental and thus not covered.  
You get the old-fashioned, largely ineffective treatments of yesteryear 
because they are cheaper.  Period.  Oh, and the drug benefit still costs the 
seniors an arm - somewhat better than an arm-and-a-leg as it is now.

His clear skies initiative to clean up the air...means allowing power plants 
to produce MORE pollution and NOT add new/improved scrubbers.  It means NOT 
requiring imminently doable mandated increases in CAFE standards for ALL 
cars/trucks.  He had the audacity to mention fuel-cell automobile development 
too (apparently he couldn't recall the term fuel-cell and used a long, 
drawn-out description of using hydrogen for fuel and producing just water) - 
this after he tore the Gore campaign apart for advocating fuel-cell and 
hybrid vehicles, referring to them as jokes instead of real useful 
technologies.

His proposal to ban ALL human cloning.  Not just reproductive cloning, which 
you could possibly get some broad agreement on, but ALL cloning.  This means 
that top-notch scientists will leave the US (if such a ban comes to pass - I 
happen to know some already are or are planning to) because all the real 
research will be conducted in Great Britain, France, and other European and 
Asian countries (Japan and China in particular) - don't know about Germany.  
This isn't about stopping someone from cloning themselves to make a baby (big 
deal), it is about stopping the creation of cures for many many diseases.  It 
means a ban on cloning human stem cell lines (therapeutic cloning which could 
fix damaged neural tissue in epileptics, stroke victims, etc, correct heart 
tissue damage due to heart attack, prevent tissue engineering work targetted 
at growing new replacement organs).  The list goes on.  It is all tied to his 
lack of ability to understand anything having to do with science, and his 
total lack of curiosity about anything he doesn't currently understand.  He 
just wants to bury his face in a bible and quit thinking.  

His mantra for jumpstarting the US economy is to give ever greater tax cuts 
to the wealthiest individuals, period, inspit of the fact that many of the 
RICHEST (Including the anti-christ Bill Gates) are against it.  Who better to 
speak for the wealthy than Bill Gates?  

Bah!  He's an idiot and if allowed to follow his path with some good blocking 
from the Senate minority, he will stumble as he must and be replaced next 
term.



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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:57 am, Alfredo C. López wrote:
 El Mié 29 Ene 2003 11:54, Chuck Burns escribió:
  We never SIGNED kyoto, because it was nothing more than a ploy to LOOK
  GOOD to ecologists.  The WORST polluting countries are the 3rd world
  countries with NO environmental protection agencies, and the Kyoto treaty
  left them alone, so, of course we didn't sign it.

 That crap men. the 3rd world countries didn't have industries. so
 is very difficult to polute in that way
 The exxon valdez was and american bote right?


This sort of argument is erroneous for many basic reasons.  A factory in a 3rd 
World Nation will likely pollute like crazy relative to any developed 
nation's factories, but there is only one or two such factories and so many 
fewer citizens doing their own damage.  Then you have the US with many MANY 
factories/power plants, all putting out much less pollution PER PLANT but the 
sheer number of plants and the number of people doing their own polluting (a 
lot less than an INDIVIDUAL citizen of a 3rd World Nation) adds up to MUCH 
more pollution overall than a given 3rd World Nation could even aspire to 
produce.  

A lot of a little can easily add up to more than a little of a lot.
And in this case, it does.  
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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:23 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
[...]
  Last polls in USA show that nearly half of the American people don't
  want war against Iraq in any case. In Germany our chancellor wouldn't
  get away with doing something like that without a large majority on
  his side. And he'd never get that majority.
[...]

 I sincerely wish that it was that way here. sadly, it would appear that
 america's people, for better or worse, are along for the ride.

It is actually something like 30-ish% support going in without evidence, thus 
most are against this notion, while 70-ish% are for it WITH proof.  So far, 
no proof, just the words, you have to trust me on this.  Doesn't cut it, 
I'm afraid.

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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wish you people would quit cluttering my mailbox with all this crap.
 There are other lists where this would be appropriate.

 Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..

  first of all... repeat after me.  FRANKI IS NOT AN AMERICAN  :-)
 
  I'm an Aussie...
[...]

Heh.  Just joining the list?  At least you got in 'early'.  Anyone who fires 
up the email latter in the day will be barraged.  Better and more extensive 
than spam!  

At least it is an easy filter rule based on subject line.  

It will die down eventually.  Perhaps as soon as one of the more inflammatory 
individuals needs help with a problem on their system and have to accept the 
aid of their new-found list enemy.  


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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? The sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar...

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:45 pm, Franki wrote:
[...]
 believe it or not.. often a dictator is better economically then a
 democracy (at least initially).. simply because the leader need not worry
 about public opinion.. but that certainly doesn't make it right...

Yah, one example is Pakistan.  Musharrif is essentially a dictator but the 
alternative is likely MUCH worse (good likelihood that Moslem extremists 
would gain a considerable level of power).  Not good - it just produces 
another dangerous regime to worry about and cause problems for its neighbors.

Until conditions for average Pakistani's improve to the point of squelching 
any desire to vote for religious extremists, I would have to say that the 
current nondemocratic situation is best overall (for the Pakistani's 
themselves, though they may not think so right now, and the world).

How many citizens in Iran and Afghanistan are or were truly happy with the 
fundamentalist governments they have or had?  I'd wager that the women are 
particularly less than pleased.  Such situations invariably favor the poorly 
educated as such systems give them power that they wouldn't have.

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Re: [expert] OT - This Damn List

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 01:13 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:57:31 +

 Daryl Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  AT LEAST TAKE IT OFF THIS LIST.

 Agreed!!!

 Thankfully using claws I can set an ignore flag.

What is claws?


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Re: [expert] OT - This Damn List

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 01:26 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:06:42 -0500

 Praedor Tempus Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What is claws?

 sylpheed-claws, a damn great email program.

Ah.  I know of sylpheed and have used it, I didn't know realize there was a 
claws as part of its name...or is there a variant of just sylpheed?
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Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Last word for me on this topic

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:09 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:14 pm, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
  of US citizens with contrary views to those of the court-appointed US
  president and his apologists - I count several besides myself in this
  list thus far. Not all Americans respond with reflex support for what the
  current person in the White House says.

 Just to be accurate, there were no less than -3- independent recounts of
 the votes after the election - Bush was the winner in all 3 recounts.
 Sohe was not court appointed. Under the rules of our voting system -
 whoever takes the most votes in the Electoral college wins. Bush did this.
 Gore did have more popular votes - but he did not have more electoral
 votes. There are a lot of opinions (for and against) the electoral college
 - but it is the way the system is setup legally. It was setup before the
 election between Bush and Gore. Only Gore wanted to change the rules AFTER
 the election started.

I understand that it was the electoral college - but I disdain and wish to see 
abolished the electoral college.  It is a vestige of the attempts by SOME 
early Framers to restrict who could vote/who had control of the political 
process.  No other democracy on the planet uses a system whereby the majority 
of the citizens can be overruled by cliques of supervoters.  The people 
themselves know what they want more than some misrepresentation of the 
people.  If most people voted against you, by definition, you do not properly 
represent them and cannot claim to do so.  

All too often the electoral vote is used to determine landslide victories or 
mandates.  Reagan did this because he overwhelmingly won the ELECTORAL 
vote.  Looking at the popular vote, the actual people's votes themselves, he 
had no mandate for anything.  He didn't get much more than 50% (I seem to 
recall it being on the order of 54%).  That means that nearly half the 
country voted against you and doesn't support you.  That doesn't say mandate 
or landslide by any stretch.  The electoral college is wrong and needs to go.


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Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:24 pm, J.P. Pasnak wrote:
 I've been attempting to set up an enviroment that will let a user use
 sftp, but not allow them to 'walk' the rest of the system.

 I've tried _numerous_ different variations (created a chrooted user, using
 rbash or sftp-server as a shell, etc), and none of them seemed to work.  I
 seem to be going in circles now, so if anyone has any insight, it would be
 appreciated.

In case you get an answer offlist, I would appreciate a note on what you get.  
I would like such a capability myself - I haven't tried anything to that 
direction as yet because I didn't really think about the situation until you 
brought it up.

praedor

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Re: [expert] OT crap about Iraq, etc

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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For my part I apologize for letting myself getting involved and helping to 
stretch this stupid thread beyond its useful lifetime.  In order to prevent 
getting bumped off the list, I promise to hold my keys and respond never 
again to any portion of this thread on the list. 

Pleze don't bump me!  (I really do have big watery doe eyes that no one 
can resist when I beg)
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Re: [expert] Memory problem? Memtest86 question

2003-01-28 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 12:03 pm, Albert E. Whale, CISSP wrote:
 I am curious as to Which OS Version you encountered this?

 I have a Sever running for Several Months on LM 8.2, when I install LM
 9.0 it will not rung for more than a few days without encountering this
 message.  Any ideas?

 Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
 Some of what I have found with regards to messages like:
 
 Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 01100112
[...]

Really?  Perhaps another problem to chalk up to the many with 2.4.19 (and 
higher) kernels?  I encountered this problem with Mandrake 9.0 
kernel-2.4.19-2mdk, customized build.  I find I generally have to build my 
own kernel to get wireless working properly regardless of version but 2.4.19 
and 2.4.20 have given me fits - problems with filesystem support (both XFS 
and RieserFS) and usb primarily.  Supermount hasn't been too much of a 
problem for me as yet.

Oh yes, to get around the problems with the kernels to a point of actually 
being able to USE 2.4.19, I had to build it using gcc2.96.  It seems that the 
entire gcc 3.x series is screwed wrt kernel building.  If you build a kernel 
with gcc 3.x you will loose XFS support at the very least.  I couldn't bring 
up a ReiserFS system with 2.4.20 when built with gcc3.x either.  Using 2.96 
didn't save me from the problem I mentioned about paging requests, however.  
That just cleared itself up for perhaps the current boot cycle.  I rebooted 
the magic number of times, I suppose, and this last time it worked.  I fear 
rebooting again.

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Re: [expert] Memory problem? Memtest86 question

2003-01-28 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 04:08 pm, Albert E. Whale, CISSP wrote:
 Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 January 2003 12:03 pm, Albert E. Whale, CISSP wrote:
 I am curious as to Which OS Version you encountered this?
 [...]
 
 Really?  Perhaps another problem to chalk up to the many with 2.4.19 (and
 higher) kernels?  I encountered this problem with Mandrake 9.0
 kernel-2.4.19-2mdk, customized build.  I find I generally have to build my
 own kernel to get wireless working properly regardless of version but
  2.4.19 and 2.4.20 have given me fits - problems with filesystem support
  (both XFS and RieserFS) and usb primarily.  Supermount hasn't been too
  much of a problem for me as yet.
[...]
 Are you indicating that 9.0 doesn't support anything other than ext2 or
 ext3?  If so, Where's the BEEF?  Do you have any Documentation available?

 I never got any answers from support either, must have been the Chapter
 11 filing issues . Would like to get the 9.0 running on it, but I
 have no idea what will provide support for the ReiserFS filesystem.

I didn't have any problems booting up and running my system (sans wireless 
lan) with the stock, prebuilt Mandrake 9.0 kernel.  Upon building my own 
kernel (because I had to patch the kernel's hub.c to get wireless working) I 
lost the ability to bootup - my system was 100% XFS.  Stock kernel, no 
problem, custom kernel built with gcc 3.2, problem.  I then tried 2.4.20 from 
Cooker.  Same thing only by that point I had decided to go to ReiserFS so I 
could use a kernel NOW rather than at some future point where, presumably, 
XFS support would be working again.  I built the 2.4.20 kernel without hitch 
(using gcc 3.2 default) and rebooted.  Kernel panic, couldn't handle XFS.  I 
went back to the stock 9.0 kernel and did some digging.  I then found that 
there are issues with gcc3.x and XFS.  I then followed a suggestion to use 
gcc2.96 and the problem went away with regards to the XFS issue.  

I was having problems with the wireless device (WUSB11 v2.6) however and that 
was a showstopper.  The problem was the kernel paging deal I mentioned.  

The STOCK Mandrake 9.0 2.4.19 kernel that came with the install (precompiled) 
was fine with regards to XFS, it was only when I tried to do what I always do 
and rebuild my own kernel with the default 9.0 gcc (3.2) that things went 
south.

I have gotten my WUSB11 working after much pulling of hair and gnashing of 
teeth but I am not sure the kernel paging issue is really fixed or if it just 
decided not to rear its head with my last restart.  

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Re: [expert] Memory problem? Memtest86 question

2003-01-28 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 04:31 pm, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 January 2003 04:08 pm, Albert E. Whale, CISSP wrote:
 [...]

  Are you indicating that 9.0 doesn't support anything other than ext2 or
  ext3?  If so, Where's the BEEF?  Do you have any Documentation available?
 
  I never got any answers from support either, must have been the Chapter
  11 filing issues . Would like to get the 9.0 running on it, but I
  have no idea what will provide support for the ReiserFS filesystem.

 I didn't have any problems booting up and running my system (sans wireless
 lan) with the stock, prebuilt Mandrake 9.0 kernel.  Upon building my own
 kernel (because I had to patch the kernel's hub.c to get wireless working)
[...]

I just wanted to reiterate that these problems are not 
Mandrake-created/specific problems.  The problems are in the kernel code and 
in gcc3.x.  If you want your software to WORK, don't use gcc3.x.  If you want 
it to run faster, perhaps not compile, perhaps NOT work, use gcc3.x.

The _kernel_ developers and _gcc_ developers are wrecking the stuff as fast as 
they can.  Everyone else, including Mandrake, is simply stuck with the 
debris.

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Re: [expert] Damn !@##$! usb @@#!%@! atmel !

2003-01-27 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
On Monday 27 January 2003 11:08 am, JP wrote:
 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  What. The. F*CK?!!!

 please grow up, and let me know when you succeeded so i can stop filtering
 the crap you send to this ml.

Offended by !@##!@ F*CK are we?  How about s;lolnoneoitjn;ongponre?

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[expert] Memory problem? Memtest86 question

2003-01-27 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
Some of what I have found with regards to messages like:

Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 01100112

is that it is thought to be related to memory/cache problems.  Does anyone 
know one way or another?  I have been running memtest86 for over an hour on 
the problem system and so far there have been no errors.  

Anyone have experience with a similar error message and use of memtest86?  
Does this error type usually show up running memtest or is there something 
else going on.

I have rebuilt my kernel, rebuilt the wlan driver, disabled and enabled APIC, 
all to no avail.  The module for the wusb11 loads and KControl identifies it 
properly.  What doesn't happen is that devfs doesn't create a device for the 
wlan device as it should and no amount of unplugging/replugging the wusb11 
does any good.  I cannot even unload the module for the device because I 
always get back a device busy or in use message.  Is there any way to force 
a module to unload no matter what?  It may not be pretty but it has to be 
better than having to reboot.  Shutting down usb doesn't permit unloading the 
wusb11 driver either.

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Re: [expert] Yenta Socket and Compaq Laptops

2003-01-27 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
On Monday 27 January 2003 12:38 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 Nothing like talking to oneself here *grin*.  I think I've tracked the
 blocking down to hotplug.. Seems that there is a device that exists in
 newer compaq desktops at /dev/compaq/cpqphp.  This of course doesn't
 exist in a 2 year old laptop.  HotPlug is the cause of the the problem.
 Everytime you try to insert a cardbus pcmcia card hotplug reacts by
 trying to load EVERYthing on the pci bus.  It appears that my choices
 are.

I have NEVER had any luck with yenta wrt pcmcia.  I always end up dumping 
yenta and switching to i82365 instead.  Have you tried this, by chance?  Edit 
/etc/sysconfig/pcmcia so that PCIC=yenta says PCIC=i82365 and try again...or 
is there something about Compaq that requires you use yenta?

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Re: [expert] Damn !@##$! usb @@#!%@! atmel !

2003-01-27 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Monday 27 January 2003 01:43 pm, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
 Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  What is wrong?!  Why? Why!? WHY!?
 
  I REALLY need wireless to work for me to get work done.
   Anyone have anything to offer?  A sledgehammer for both my
  computer and the WUSB11 perhaps?  A pair of brass knuckles
  to use in dotting Linus' eyes?
[...]
 yep, a D-LINK DWL-810 ETHERNET TO WIRELESS BRIDGE

Thanks, I'll have to take a look.  This is too unreliable as it is.  Right 
now, for no apparent reason, my WUSB11 is working again.  I had shutdown from 
linux and booted up into memtest86 to test my memory.  Let it go for 2 hours 
and there were no errors - all passed tests.  

I tweaked a few bios settings (nothing I haven't done before) and rebooted to 
linux expecting it to fail again.  This time it came up but I have no idea 
why.  I will have to ensure that my system doesn't get shut down again until 
the critical phase passes so I can keep a working wlan connection going.  I 
am defending my PhD thesis next week and MUST access files from another 
computer without a useful intermediary such as zip disks or jazz disks 
between them.  Floppies are just too small to use anymore.  Hence, I needed 
the high bandwidth connection via wlan between my systems or I would have 
been wasting time redoing a lot of graphics and tables that already exist on 
the other system.  

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[expert] X forwarding

2003-01-27 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I am extremely new to x forwarding.  I can x forward certain apps like 
gkrellm, staroffice, and several other self-contained apps (over wlan).  Is 
it possible to x forward opengl apps?  Can one x forward (via ssh) glxgears?
An opengl game?  

It would be nice to be able to run certain apps on my laptop that it normally 
cannot handle because of a weak video card and CPU (celery 360), using my 
high-powered system (athlon 1100, Nvidia Ti4200) to do the heavy lifting - 
and do it over my wlan.

Is this possible or does one require a fully capable video card on the 
receiving end to run accelerated opengl apps?  

Finally, how would one go about x forwarding KDE apps?  I tried something 
simple like x-forwarding kcontrol but it doesn't work due to DCOP errors.  Is 
there a nice howto to cover this somewhat specifically?  I just read a 
generic x forwarding howto that permitted me to quickly run gkrellm and 
staroffice via wlan from desktop to laptop but I would like to get more 
powerful or intensive apps (and kde apps) working over ssh too but the 
general case doesn't work.

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Re: [expert] X forwarding

2003-01-27 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Monday 27 January 2003 05:02 pm, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
 I don't seem to have any problem running KDE apps in remote X windows.
 Usually I ssh in rather than telnet. What kind of errors are you seeing?
 Can you post the output of something like a konqueror start-up sequence?

Here's the output from trying to run kcontrol via x-forward between my desktop 
and laptop:


[praedor@stonekeep praedor]$ ssh -X 192.168.0.2 kcontrol
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
kdeinit: Launched DCOPServer, pid = 4339 result = 0
_KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
DCOP: register 'anonymous-4339' - number of clients is now 1
DCOPServer up and running.
kdeinit: Launched KLauncher, pid = 4343 result = 0
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-4339'
DCOP: register 'klauncher' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: unregister 'klauncher'
DCOP: register 'klauncher' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: register 'anonymous-4343' - number of clients is now 2
DCOP: new daemon klauncher
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-4343'
kdeinit: Launched KDED, pid = 4346 result = 0
DCOP: register 'kded' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: unregister 'kded'
DCOP: register 'kded' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: register 'anonymous-4346' - number of clients is now 2
DCOP: register 'anonymous-4347' - number of clients is now 3
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kbuildsycoca' from launcher.
DCOP: register 'kbuildsycoca' - number of clients is now 4
kdeinit: PID 4348 terminated.
DCOP: unregister 'kbuildsycoca'
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-4347'
DCOP: register 'kbuildsycoca' - number of clients is now 4
kdeinit: PID 4348 terminated.
DCOP: unregister 'kbuildsycoca'
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-4347'
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kconf_update' from launcher.
File = /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kcookiescfg.upd
Skipping 'kde2.2/b1'
File = /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kioslave.upd
Skipping 'kde2.2/r1'
Skipping 'kde2.2/r2'
Skipping 'kde2.2/r3'
kdeinit: PID 4349 terminated.
DCOP: new daemon kded
kdeinit: PID 4346 terminated.
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-4346'
kdeinit: opened connection to localhost:10.0
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.
DCOPServer : slotTerminate() - sending terminateKDE signal.
kdeinit: terminate KDE.
kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children.
KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1
DCOP: unregister 'klauncher'
DCOP: unregister 'kded'
kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit: Exit.


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[expert] How to add MDK 9.0 CDs to urpmi database?

2003-01-22 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I tried the well-regarded site:  http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/
to fix my urpmi.  It did, incompletely.  Many of the sites were either 
unavailable or broken such that urpmi still fails quite often when I try to 
use it.  Anyway, I would like to add the 9.0 CDs to the urpmi database in 
place of many of the website-based sources.  I only have a 56k modem conne 
tion and doing upgrades/installs online is painful and inefficient.  

How do I add the CDs (I have the 9.0 box set - Powersuite) to the database?  I 
don't mind leaving some inet sites in the database, obviously updates or 
unsupported, but for basics like main, I need/prefer the CDs as they are 
right here and far faster than the web.

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Re: [expert] How to add MDK 9.0 CDs to urpmi database?

2003-01-22 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Wednesday 22 January 2003 01:21 pm, Eric Fernandez wrote:
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 I tried the well-regarded site:  http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/
 to fix my urpmi.  It did, incompletely.  Many of the sites were either
 unavailable or broken such that urpmi still fails quite often when I try
  to use it.  Anyway, I would like to add the 9.0 CDs to the urpmi database
  in place of many of the website-based sources.  I only have a 56k modem
  conne tion and doing upgrades/installs online is painful and inefficient.
 
 How do I add the CDs (I have the 9.0 box set - Powersuite) to the
[...]
 Since you have the Powerpack, the CDs of the contrib should be already
 added to your urpmi database. PLF packages are not included in any

I deleted the original sources as per other instructions in this list (plus 
they weren't working anyway).  I would like to try to reset them/rebuild the 
urpmi database to functionally and properly include the CDs.  

I'll try the site you mention though a cursory glance really doesn't tell me 
what I need specifically.  It is somewhat like a manpage.  Lots of 
information but often not really useful if you are not fully fluent in arcane 
bash/manpage speak.  


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Re: [expert] How to add MDK 9.0 CDs to urpmi database?

2003-01-22 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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 I tried the well-regarded site:  http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/
 to fix my urpmi.  It did, incompletely.  Many of the sites were either
 unavailable or broken such that urpmi still fails quite often when I try
[...]
 How do I add the CDs (I have the 9.0 box set - Powersuite) to the
 
  [...]
  I deleted the original sources as per other instructions in this list
  (plus they weren't working anyway).  I would like to try to reset
  them/rebuild the urpmi database to functionally and properly include the
  CDs.
[...]
 I'll throw out a couple of ideas but I have not personally taken these
 steps.

I did it with urpmi.addmedia -h /mnt/cdrom with my 9.0 CD1 in the drive.  It 
appears fixed now.

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Re: [expert] wireless cards

2003-01-20 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Monday 20 January 2003 07:47 pm, Bopolissimus Platypus wrote:
 On Monday 20 January 2003 06:21 am, KevinO wrote:
  I just want to be able to get a connection without having to pay $20 a
  day for an ethernet connection. I will be traveling through London, Paris
  and Amsterdam.

 how does that work?  you still need to get the internet feed from
 somewhere.  if you're not paying for the ethernet connection
 (presumably at hotels), whose wireless network are you going
 to connect to?  or are you going to be sniffing for open networks
 and leech off them? :).

Britain has a number of public access wireless lans.


  Will Mandrake 8.0 be current enough or should I upgrade ?

 i had lots of trouble getting my d-link WPC11 working on 8.2.  basically,
 i had to build my own kernel and it was a major pain (because i have
 a bunch of other patches that i need, mainly win4lin, and it took weeks
 to get everything straightened out because of conflicts in the patches

That seems to make yours a special case.  I had no problems getting any of my 
wlan devices working in 8.2 but many in 9.0.  In fact, I installed 9.0 but 
still use the 8.2 kernel because it works so well whereas the 9.0 kernel, 
rebuilt or not, doesn't do much right at all for me (no XFS support if I 
build the kernel EVEN if I explicitly select XFS support, no usb wlan 
possible, supermount glitches).  As I understand it, the kernels coming after 
9.0 are WORSE - no XFS support at all, usb problems still.

8.2 is a solid version that works very well with lots of wlan cards.  If you 
aren't worried about win4lin stuff, then it is probably the best bet.

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Re: [expert] wireless cards

2003-01-19 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Sunday 19 January 2003 05:02 pm, KevinO wrote:
 I am looking to add an 802.11b card to my older laptop (P-150) in
 preparation for a trip to Europe I am about to make. I currently have
 Mandrake 8.0 on this laptop but I can install 8.1, 8.2 or 9.0 if necessary.

 What are good cards to buy for this purpose ?

Depends on your intent.  Any prism2-based card is well supported.  Less well 
supported are atmel-based cards.  I have several, all of which work fine.  My 
favorite is a Zoomair card.  I use the hostap driver with it (allows it to 
act as a regular client for a wlan network OR act as an access point AND it 
supports monitor mode for wlan sniffing).

Orinoco cards are also reasonably well supported (I also have an Orinoco 
Gold).   There are a number of others but since I'm happy with my current 
cards I haven't looked into it much more of late.

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[expert] RPM screwed and worthless

2003-01-17 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I don't know what happened or when but I cannot do anything with rpm except 
make simple queries.  VERY simple queries.  And I cannot do a database 
rebuild either.  I have been trying to install/reinstall all the latest 
Mandrake rpm-* rpms but I cannot do it.  At first, I tried doing a simple rpm 
query: rpm -qa|grep rpm- to see what rpm versions I had installed for rpm 
itself.  Nothing.  Just sits there forever and never produces a result.  If I 
do rpm -q rpm I get a result.  I then tried installing rpm-rebuilder and 
rpm-get but it just sits there and wont do anything.  Running an strace on it 
it appears that rpm goes through some form of database query but then gets to 
a point where all it does is timeout:

select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {1, 0}) = 0 (Timeout} 

over and over and over forever.  

If I try to do an rpm --rebuilddb, it does the same thing, just sits there 
forever timing out.

How do I FORCE rpm to install an rpm regardless of whatever shape the rpm 
database is?  What if I delete the rpm database?  What filename and where is 
the database?  

Help please.  I'm screwed royal at this point.  If one loses the ability to 
use rpm on an rpm-dependent distro, one is HOSED.  

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Re: [expert] RPM screwed and worthless

2003-01-17 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Friday 17 January 2003 12:14 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
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  I don't know what happened or when but I cannot do anything with rpm
  except make simple queries.  VERY simple queries.  And I cannot do a
  database rebuild either.  I have been trying to install/reinstall all the
  latest Mandrake rpm-* rpms but I cannot do it.  At first, I tried doing a
[...]
  How do I FORCE rpm to install an rpm regardless of whatever shape the rpm
  database is?  What if I delete the rpm database?  What filename and where
  is the database?
 
  Help please.  I'm screwed royal at this point.  If one loses the ability
  to use rpm on an rpm-dependent distro, one is HOSED.
 
  praedor

 Does 'urpmi' fail too, or is this just 'rpm' that won't work?

urpmi also fails to function.  The commands I used from  
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon mostly failed (the sites listed either don't 
exist or refuse connections).  I was TRYING to get sites closest to me, as 
many US sites as possible but almost all failed.

Urpmi and rpm are dead and useless.  

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Re: [expert] RPM screwed and worthless

2003-01-17 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Friday 17 January 2003 11:25 am, Azrael wrote:
 Do you have the rpm database locked by a zombie/dead/half-dead/forgotton
 rpm process somewhere? check all your processes and kill off rpm related
 ones?

There are no rpm processes running at all.  

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Re: [expert] RPM screwed and worthless

2003-01-17 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Friday 17 January 2003 11:38 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
 Azrael wrote:
  Do you have the rpm database locked by a zombie/dead/half-dead/forgotton
  rpm process somewhere? check all your processes and kill off rpm related
  ones?

 Also, rm /var/lib/rpm/__db.00* (after rpm processes are killed)?  Then,
 --rebuilddb.

Ah.  Thank you, deleting those files did the trick and I was subsequently able 
to rebuild the database.

Thank you!

Sigh of relief.

I have found what appears to be a highly reliable means of wrecking your rpm 
database.  Do a search/query of your database using rpm -qa|grep whatever 
and terminate the process before it finishes.  Using Ctrl-C works for this 
nicely.  After this, the database is hosed and requires rebuilding.  This is 
a bug as simply querying the database and terminating the query shouldn't 
alter the database in any way.  It should be a simple reading of the 
database.  This wrecking procedure worked in 8.2 and continues to work in 
9.0.

praedor

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[expert] Staroffice setup

2003-01-17 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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It has been a while since I last had to do this and now I don't recall the 
procedure for installing staroffice for EVERYONE.  What is the command after 
initial rpm install to install staroffice 6.0 such that everyone can use it?

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[expert] It's official.

2003-01-15 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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Mandrake has officially filed for Chapter 11.  Done deal.

Hopefully they will pull out of this reorganization of payments and...still 
exist.
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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.0 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein

2003-01-14 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Monday 13 January 2003 04:34 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Monday 13 January 2003 05:58 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
  I was playing RTCW on my 8.2 system without too much problem (worked
  perfectly if started in a non-KDE environ prepended by soundwrapper,
  wouldn't work with sound at all no matter what in KDE).  I have an NVidia
  Geforce 4 Ti4200. In 9.0, the game starts up fine with sound in KDE BUT
[...]
  Anyone have RTCW and 9.0 playing well together?  The game is updated to
  the most current bugfix level.
 Praedor, I've not gotten around to reinstalling that one yet, I'll do that
 in the next while - I'll let ya know how it goes here.

All OK.  Magically, upon my next reboot all is OK (I did nothing).  Graphics 
are fine in RTCW now and it plays just fine in KDE/Mandrake 9.0.

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[expert] Mandrake 9.0 urpmi broken?

2003-01-14 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I am not finding urpmi very functional nor impressive in Mandrake 9.0.  In 
Mandrake 8.2 it works like a charm but in 9.0 it chokes on virtually EVERY 
query I make.

Latest:

urpmi recode

In 8.2 this immediately turns up a hit and seeks permission to install another 
rpm to satisfy dependencies.  In 9.0 I get no package named recode.

Heh.  There IS a 9.0 rpm for recode.  I also get this equivalent message for 
EVERYTHING I have tried to urpmi.  I end up having to go to rpmfind instead 
to find and download the rpm.  

What gives?  
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[expert] Mandrake 9.0 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein

2003-01-13 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I was playing RTCW on my 8.2 system without too much problem (worked perfectly 
if started in a non-KDE environ prepended by soundwrapper, wouldn't work 
with sound at all no matter what in KDE).  I have an NVidia Geforce 4 Ti4200.
In 9.0, the game starts up fine with sound in KDE BUT the config screens get 
screwed up, almost as if there is no screen redraw/refresh between config 
screens.  All the config menus pile up on top of each other when I go from 
menu to menu and nothing I do will correct it.  In the end, I cannot DO 
anything in the game because of this and have to kill the game.

Anyone have RTCW and 9.0 playing well together?  The game is updated to the 
most current bugfix level.

praedor
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[expert] Mandrake 9.0, XFree86, Nvidia, glxgears

2003-01-13 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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Prior to upgrading to MDK 9.0, my 8.2 system (NVidia Geforce 4 Ti4200) would 
produce upwards of 6000 FPS in glxgears, default size (1024x768, 16 bit 
color).  Since upgrading to 9.0 (and rebuilding/reinstalling the NVidia 
drivers), I get a reasonably steady 3800 FPS.  

I've looked over the XFree86-4.conf file and it appears to have altered its 
format from the previous iteration.  I used to have a setting explicitly 
placing my agp mode to 4x, for instance, but there is nothing there now.  I 
don't know if this is part of the reason for the drop in framerates...
Anyone have suggestions on how to tweak the config file in XFree86-4.2.1 to 
maximize framerates again?

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Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions

2003-01-12 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:55 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Sunday January 12 2003 08:48 am, Azrael wrote:
[...]
  I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's
 release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I
 understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS
[...]

What's up with this?  Anyone know why XFS support is lacking?  Is it a 
technical or political decision?  My system is 100% XFS so I could really 
stand to know - this prevents me from even considering upgrading kernels.

praedor

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Re: [expert] First 9.1beta *not* frustrating experience

2003-01-11 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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On Saturday 11 January 2003 07:30 pm, Charlie wrote:
 On Saturday 11 January 2003 02:50 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:
  Hi List,
 
  I just finished loading Mdk9.1beta1. It, being a beta, was a little
  challenging getting to load, and I'm sure lilo is torched, but no
  worries.  It's FRIGGIN GORGEOUS a little sparse yet, but GOD BLESS
  MANDRAKESOFT!!!
[...]
 A bit hard to get it to start the first time and a total pain in the ass
 because all of the Mandrake partitions (except /boot and /) on all 4 of my
 hard drives are XFS which isn't supported apparently, but all in all
 definitely worth testing.

Hmpf.  I upgraded, finally, to 9.0 to get past the growing problems I was 
having upgrading other aspects of 8.2 - dependency hell.  It just became 
easier to upgrade.  Thing is, though I am now running 9.0, I am still using 
the 8.2 kernel because the 2.4.19 kernel (9.0)  just doesn't work on my 
system.  It took some tweaking just to get the install CD to bootup on my 
system (never had THAT problem before).  With 2.4.19 I cannot use my WUSB11 
v2.6 wlan device.  Rebuilding and installing the atmel driver just doesn't 
work but it works perfectly with 2.4.18.  Then, you mentioned XFS.  

I am 100% XFS and it has worked fine until 2.4.19.  In hopes of getting my 
WUSB11 to work, I tried building my own 2.4.19 kernel (I ALWAYS end up 
building my own kernel) but even using the default Mandrake 9.0 config file 
for the kernel, the newly built kernel will NOT bootup - lots of errors wrt 
XFS.  Then a kernel panic.  The stock 2.4.19 kernel works OK (except for the 
WUSB11 device).  Anyway, what is up with XFS?  Why wouldn't it be supported?  
It is a rather mature filesystem, afterall.

What kernel is used in the 9.1 beta?  Is it 2.4.20?  I am considering trying 
that kernel to get around my WUSB11 problems and the XFS problems.  Surely it 
supports XFS?

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[expert] testing...ignore

2003-01-02 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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[expert] routing/DNS problems - wireless connection sharing

2002-11-28 Thread Praedor Tempus
I am getting mixed success with my wireless connection
sharing.  I am finally figuring out certain aspects
that need to be handled to get it working but one
baffles me still.

I get a modem connection on box 1 which is ad-hoc
wireless connected to box 2.  After the connection,
box 1 can use the internet OK but box 2 doesn't get
DNS - it can only use the internet if IP addresses are
used while site names lead to unknown host messages.  

I have checked my routing tables and they are fine.  I
also have iptables setup to NAT.  I am just not able
to get name resolution on box 2 from box 2.  At the
moment, to get it working I have had to manually add
the DNS IP on box 2 assigned by the modem connection.

How do I get name resolution to work?  I am not
running a local DNS (and would prefer not to).  I
SHOULD be able to use the DNS settings of box 1 to get
name resolution on box 2.  What settings need to be
looked at on which box to get this working?  It HAS
worked before but I have no idea how/why - while now
it doesn't.  

My iptables-save output is:

# Generated by iptables-save v1.2.5 on Thu Nov 28
10:45:49 2002
*filter
:INPUT ACCEPT [2753:2158267]
:FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [3352:376728]
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m udp --sport 68 --dport 67
-j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --sport 68 --dport 67
-j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m udp --sport 67 --dport 68
-j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --sport 67 --dport 68
-j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -i eth0 -j ACCEPT
-A FORWARD -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j
ACCEPT
COMMIT
# Completed on Thu Nov 28 10:45:49 2002
# Generated by iptables-save v1.2.5 on Thu Nov 28
10:45:49 2002
*nat
:PREROUTING ACCEPT [202:12816]
:POSTROUTING ACCEPT [464:37631]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [468:37967]
-A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 -j
MASQUERADE
-A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 -o ppp0 -j
MASQUERADE
COMMIT
# Completed on Thu Nov 28 10:45:49 2002

My box 1 routing table contains:

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags
Metric RefUse Iface
128.211.132.5   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH   
0  00 ppp0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U
0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U
0  00 lo
0.0.0.0 128.211.132.5   0.0.0.0 UG   
0  00 ppp0

Anyone have any wisdom to put forth?  On box 2, how do
I setup DNS (with linuxconf?)  Right now, I have box
1's IP as its DNS (192.168.0.1).  This is also its
gateway.

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[expert] Postfix/kmail problem

2002-11-26 Thread Praedor Tempus
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I have recently setup postfix on my desktop to be my MTA, both sending and 
receiving (with fetchmail).  I get emails in /var/spool/mail/praedor as 
expected and can see them with pine and if I  do ls /var/spool/mail I see 
the praedor mailbox.  

In kmail (KDE 3.0.3) I changed my receiving host to local mail using maildir 
format.  In the selection window provided it had /var/spool/mail/praedor 
exactly as it should.  If I select it, however, and check mail I get an 
error:

cannot open ://var/spool/mail/praedor  

I then tried to choose the directory to see if this would fix the problem.  I 
navigate in the kmail window to /var/spool/mail...and nothing appears!  To 
kmail this directory appears empty yet my mailbox praedor is CLEARLY there 
and can be seen by pine, mail, and simple ls!  What IS the deal here?  What 
does it take to get kmail to cooperate with local mail?  Why can't it see my 
very much existing mailbox from postfix?

Next, since kmail seems to be prepending an unneeded / on the default 
directory I altered the entry to be simply var/spool/mail/praedor.  Now, 
when I check mail, nothing happens.  No errors and no messages appear even 
though I know for a fact that mail resides in the directory.

Anyone?

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Re: [expert] iptables help?

2002-11-24 Thread Praedor Tempus
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On Sunday 24 November 2002 12:06 am, Woody Green wrote:
 On the sharing machine, run iptables-save and post the output here.


Hello,

After some fiddling I managed to get things working again, though I only 
barely understand what I did.  Below is the output of iptables-save.  There 
are a few duplicate entries resulting from my fiddling but so far it is 
working.  

Day before last I had it working too via an ad-hoc wireless connection but 
after several hours of connectivity, it just quit and I could not regain an 
adhoc connection even after repeated attempts.  I finally got a new adhoc 
regoing but without being able to share the internet connection until after 
my long bought of reading and fiddling with iptables (results below).  Any 
suggestions or improvements would be greatly appreciated.  At this point, and 
as a result of my fiddling, I _think_ all I need to do next time is do:

 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
 iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -i eth0

Am I missing something?  

[root@Stonekeep praedor]# iptables-save
# Generated by iptables-save v1.2.5 on Sun Nov 24 07:26:34 2002
*filter
:INPUT ACCEPT [29568:5444758]
:FORWARD ACCEPT [6207:1830932]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [29589:2467901]
COMMIT
# Completed on Sun Nov 24 07:26:34 2002
# Generated by iptables-save v1.2.5 on Sun Nov 24 07:26:34 2002
*nat
:PREROUTING ACCEPT [610:39174]
:POSTROUTING ACCEPT [3504:360904]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [3898:387546]
- -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.0.2 -i eth0
- -A PREROUTING -i eth0
- -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -i eth0
- -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
- -A PREROUTING -i eth0
- -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 -j MASQUERADE
- -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
- -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0
- -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0
- -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
COMMIT
# Completed on Sun Nov 24 07:26:34 2002



  Woody

 Praedor Atrebates said:
  I am having problems with a internet connection share.  Oddly, I had it
  working for a while last evening but then, suddenly, it died and I was
  unable  to communication computer to computer via wlan (sharing a modem
  connection on  one of them).
 
  Running Mandrake 8.2, I have a usb wlan device on my desktop set as eth0
  and  IP 192.168.0.1 as well as a modem (ppp0) through which the internet
   connection is to be shared.  My laptop has a wlan card set as wlan0 and
  IP  192.168.0.2.  The wireless connection is ad-hoc and they are
  communicating  just fine but I am unable to get the laptop to
  communicate with the internet  via the desktop's modem connection.  In
  other words, the connection is being  shared.
 
  This appears to be a problem with iptables setup.  Can someone help me
  out  with getting iptables setup (to run NAT) so that my laptop can
  communicate  with the internet via the desktop modem?
 
  praedor

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[expert] Odd network situation

2002-11-22 Thread Praedor Tempus
I was misled.  I was informed that one could not share an internet connection 
through an ad-hoc wlan connection.  I have found I was wrong/misinformed and 
it is possible.  At this point I am only partially sharing, however.

I changed my wlan connection from my laptop to desktop to be ad-hoc and they 
are connected.  I have been trying to setup iptables so that I can share the 
connection on the desktop but oddly, it only appears to be partially 
successful.  I am sending and receiving email but I cannot access the web.  
Any attempt to ping a host from my laptop ends up in Destination 
unreachable strings (unless I am pinging my desktop directly).

What is needed to get this working?  What on the desktop and on the laptop 
must be done to finally bring a fully shared internet connection to fruition?  
I don't understand how I can be able to send email and receive email (via my 
local postfix MTA) but not access the web.

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[expert] Procmail spam filter recipes?

2002-11-22 Thread Praedor Tempus
Well, it now appears that all is right with the world.  I managed to get my 
wireless connections between desktop and laptop up and running so as to allow 
both machines to connection share a dialup account from the desktop.  I also 
got my KDE slow startup problem resolved (my desktop hostname isn't yet valid 
and enameco.com is down for a day or so).

Now, I am wanting to clean up my procmail filters.  Does anyone have any 
particularly good spam filters setup for procmail that seem to do a good job?  
Would you be willing to share your recipes? 

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Re: [expert] Procmail spam filter recipes?

2002-11-22 Thread Praedor Tempus
I just picked up junkfilter but cannot build it.  I placed it in 
/usr/local/etc/junkfilter and set the path to point to this as well as my 
procmailrc file.  I do a make create in the junkfilter directory and all I 
get is:

[praedor@lapdog junkfilter]$ make create
Makefile:49: *** target pattern contains no `%'.  Stop.

Nothing comes of it.  

On Friday 22 November 2002 12:07 pm, Albert E. Whale wrote:
 I use the Junkfilter.

 I have narrowed my Recipes to get current information as well.  I would be
 glad to share it with you.  Let me know if you are interested in it.

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Re: [expert] Procmail spam filter recipes?

2002-11-22 Thread Praedor Tempus
Hmpf.  

I have/had procmail working on my system.  I have a directory: $HOME/.procmail
which contains a link to $HOME/.procmailrc.  I read the somewhat confusing 
directions in the README with junkfilter and elected to install the 
junkfilter files in /usr/local/etc/junkfilter.  I created a symlink in my 
.procmail directory to the junkfilter directory, ie, ln -s 
/usr/local/etc/junkfilter $HOME/.procmail/junkfilter.  I created a directory 
in .procmail called lists which are for my user-specific lists.  I set 
JFDIR=$PMDIR/junkfilter and JFUSERDIR=$PMDIR/lists in my .procmailrc and 
in my .bash_profile.  I was then able to build/make the filters (make create 
and make all) which filled my .procmail/lists directory with a load of empty 
user files.  The jf binary is executable and resides in the junkfilter 
directory plus I followed your example and made a symlink to it in /usr/bin.

I added INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/junkfilter to my .procmailrc.  I've been watching the 
procmail log in my .procmail dir and see whenever a new message is handled 
by procmail.  It just isn't doing anything.  I have set my mailer to display 
ALL headers and I have sent myself fake SPAM messages using keywords and 
combinations included in the junkfilter filters (Please read and the like).  
Nothing I've done leads to any message having any header information altered 
or added to indicated that junkfilter looked it over and passed a judgement.  
None of the fake spams have received any X-IS-SPAM additions and neither has 
any of the real junk I have stored and resent to myself.  

There are no error messages and the procmail log indicates everything is 
OK...but it isn't.

praedor

On Friday 22 November 2002 01:28 pm, Albert E. Whale wrote:
 It is my Understanding that you need to set the
 PMDIR = {directory of Procmail Storage info} - i.e. /var/Procmail
 JFDIR = {directory of Junkfilter Binaries} - i.e. /var/Procmail/junkfilter

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Re: [expert] Procmail spam filter recipes?

2002-11-22 Thread Praedor Tempus
On Friday 22 November 2002 12:07 pm, David Relson wrote:
[...]
 My procmail recipe is pretty simple.  It checks for korean and japanese
 character sets and puts those messages into file spam-unreadable,then runs
 bogofilter to classify the message as spam or ham, and then takes
 appropriate action.  Info on bogofilter can be found at SourceForge.

I' ve downloaded and installed bogofilter and am giving it a whirl.  Thanks 
for the heads up. I've eliminated my kmail spam filters to see how it does.  
I am also TRYING to use junkfilter - if it works then the headers of junkmail 
should obtain a new spam identifier, thanks to junkfilter, indicating it 
detected it.  Which ever one seems to do the best job wins.

Basically, if bogofilter puts something in my spam folder, it wont have an X 
header alteration.  If junkfilter detects spam, it will add a new spam X 
header.  Now I just need to wait for spam...

praedor

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[expert] Help with fetchmail/fetchmailconf

2002-11-21 Thread Praedor Tempus
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I have been running postfix on my system for a long time, primarily for 
sending mail, receiving mail from my yahoo pop mail account.  I am now trying 
to setup fetchmail to work with postfix and procmail plus spamassassin to act 
for both incoming and outgoing mail.  

I have fetchmail 6.1.0 and fetchmailconf.  I ran fetchmailconf to configure 
fetchmail during an initial test but now the test is over and I want to 
change its polling behavior.  I try to run fetchmailconf now and it errors 
out with this:
[praedor@lapdog praedor]$ fetchmailconf
Can't read configuration output of fetchmail --configdump.

This has happened twice.  I can only run fetchmailconf once.  After that, it 
is impossible because it errors out.  What is the problem here and how do I 
fix it?

praedor
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[expert] A test-ignore

2002-11-21 Thread Praedor Tempus
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Testing.  Nothing to see here.  Carry on.
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[expert] Testing once more

2002-11-21 Thread Praedor Tempus
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Still nothing to see here.  Keep moving.
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[expert] Help with fetchmail?

2002-11-21 Thread Praedor Tempus
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Something has gone wrong here.  I have tried to setup fetchmail to work with 
my local postfix and procmail.  I have fetchmail setup to query my yahoo pop 
mail server every 2 minutes.  It is actually downloading the mail from yahoo 
to what appears to be a blackhole on my system, however.

In testing, I logged into the yahoo web mail interface and saw a new message 
there in my inbox.  I ran fetchmail and it vanished from yahoo but it never 
appeared on my system here.

I am using kmail and have set it for local mail.  I have tried pointing it to 
/var/spool/mail/praedor and /var/mail/praedor with no affect.  No new 
messages ever appear.  I cannot find where fetchmail is placing the mail.

Where might I look to find the location fetchmail is stashing messages?

praedor
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Re: [expert] Help with fetchmail?

2002-11-21 Thread Praedor Tempus
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I was wrong.  The new message WERE coming in and being processed by procmail 
into their respective KMail folders.  The thing is, they never show up as new 
and unread messages (red text), instead showing up as already read, making it 
hard to track them.

praedor

On Thursday 21 November 2002 11:49 am, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 Something has gone wrong here.  I have tried to setup fetchmail to work
 with my local postfix and procmail.  I have fetchmail setup to query my
 yahoo pop mail server every 2 minutes.  It is actually downloading the mail
 from yahoo to what appears to be a blackhole on my system, however.

 In testing, I logged into the yahoo web mail interface and saw a new
 message there in my inbox.  I ran fetchmail and it vanished from yahoo but
 it never appeared on my system here.
[...]
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[expert] Test-Final to group

2002-11-21 Thread Praedor Tempus
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Final test here, promise
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[expert] Postfix, procmail working now, I think. A few pointers

2002-11-21 Thread Praedor Tempus
I think I have fetchmail-postfix-procmail working now on my system but for one 
thing I miss.  I use Kmail as my mail client and I like the color coding it 
does for new/unread messages vs read messages.  Is there a way to bring back 
the coloration when one is using fetchmail + postfix as the MTA + procmail?  
I am not sure which of these apps, if any, are responsible for kmail no 
longer coloring new messages (or if it is a flaw in kmail) but any help 
along these lines would be greatly appreciated.

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[expert] CLI app/script for activating modem

2002-11-21 Thread Praedor Tempus
I've always handled modem internet connections via a GUI app like kppp.  What 
would be the method for doing this from the command prompt?

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[expert] patching kernel 2.4.18

2002-11-20 Thread Praedor Tempus
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I have never quite gotten how to patch kernels.  I have a patch for upgrading 
wireless extensions to version 15 that I would like to apply to kernel 2.4.18 
(unless someone knows of a 2.4.18 kernel that already contains this patch as 
well as supermount). 

I have the file I have named wireless-extensionsv15.patch.  Where do I place 
this file and to which file(s) in the kernel source directory do I direct it?  
What patch command?

praedor
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[expert] hostname

2002-11-20 Thread Praedor Tempus
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OK, this question pops up periodically and I have asked it myself.  How does 
one assign a hostname to their system without breaking it and so that it 
comes up every time one boots?  I managed to get my laptop to be called 
lapdog.ravenhome.net but cannot recall how.  My hosts file contains both 
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain
10.0.0.1   lapdog.ravenhome.net

This isn't enough, however.  I somehow managed to get my xterm prompt to 
display the lapdog.ravenhome.net name as well but cannot recall how. 

Simply setting hostname desired hostname will break the current session 
and require a logout/login to get past it.  It will also only last as long as 
the current session.  If I reboot it will be back to localhost.localdomain.  

I want my desktop system to identify itself as something other than 
localhost.localdomain and I want it to do it with every bootup, login, etc.

How do I do this?  Ultimately, I will be setting up (hopefully) a local home 
network and I will require the desktop to be a particular name for this to 
work.

praedor


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[expert] IRQs

2002-11-20 Thread Praedor Tempus
I just cannot believe this.  I have a laptop (IBM Thinkpad) with absolutely no 
available IRQ resources.  None.  The only things attached to this is a phone 
cord for the modem (linmodem/winmodem).  Every single IRQ is used up such 
that I cannot insert any pcmcia cards while connected via modem because the 
IRQ conflicts and trashes the pcmcia card.

I want to be able to use my wlan card as an AP, have the laptop connected via 
modem, and have my desktop get to the internet via my laptop's phone 
connection.  Basic connection sharing, but it appears flat out impossible.

Without the wlan card inserted, my IRQs look thus:

   CPU0
  0: 175953  XT-PIC  timer
  1:   4347  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  5: 128808  XT-PIC  ESS Solo-1
  8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
  9: 535202  XT-PIC  i82365, ltserial
 10:  15360  XT-PIC  usb-ohci
 12:  47425  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
 14:  25766  XT-PIC  ide0
 15:  2  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0
LOC:  0
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

Looking at this one can see that IRQ 3 is available.  If I insert my wlan 
card, it takes IRQ 3 and...the system either locks up or the pcmcia card is 
useless - likely because ltserial, the modem (driver) is sharing and IRQ with 
the pcmcia bus controller.  When there is no card inserted there is no 
problem but insert a card and there is a wreck.  Can anyone suggest ANY way 
to get this working?  

praedor

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[expert] Try another way to connection share via wlan

2002-11-20 Thread Praedor Tempus
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OK, I have just about given up trying to share my laptop's modem connection 
via wlan connection with my desktop.  I have picked up a modem for my desktop 
and would like to try to share a connection that way.  Thing is, my laptop 
HAS to be the wlan AP (only prism2/2.5 cards are supported by the HostAP 
driver) and my desktop the client as there is no AP mode for the WUSB11 v2.6 
wlan device (Atmel driver).  

I want to know if it is perfectly OK to use the laptop as the AP to get a wlan 
connection between my laptop and desktop, but use the desktop as the gateway 
to the internet?  Would I simply set the gateway on my laptop to the IP of my 
desktop?  What about DNS?  Should I simply set DNS as not necessary?

praedor
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Re: [expert] Why is it so difficult to get a wireless card to work in linux????

2002-11-18 Thread Praedor Tempus
A linksys WUSB v2.5 will, perhaps also a v2.0.  I goofed my first time and 
bought a WUSB - it had been a while since it came out so I thought it likely 
to be a v2.x though there was no indication whatsoever on the box.  I lost 
the receipt and was unable to take it back.  a v1.5 will not work.

There are others, of course.  I would suggest you take a look around the 
linux-wlan-ng website: http://www.linux-wlan.org/index.html 
Down the page is a table with a list of the working and not working devices 
with the linux-wlan-ng drivers.  There is an alcatel driver out there that 
will work with some devices as well.

praedor

On Monday 18 November 2002 07:13 pm, Mike Graham wrote:
   I am about to try again - upon purchasing another pci-to-pcmcia
   adaptor. If that fails, I will try USB which I know works (if you get
   the correct wlan usb device, that is).

 Ok that brings up a very good point, which usb devices work with Mandrake
 9.0? I am about to buy another one to try and would very much appreciate
 any help on the selection. Are there any that work right out of the box ?
 Mike

  This is the point...If you find correct deviceUnfortunately they are
  not all YET linux-compatibleBut wil be...
 
  Jarmo
 
   praedor

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Re: [expert] Why is it so difficult to get a wireless card to work in linux????

2002-11-17 Thread Praedor Tempus
On Sunday 17 November 2002 04:22 pm, jarmo wrote:
[...]
 Don't blow your head off...
 If you'd read better you'd figure that this is not a laptop..
 Pse read again...

 As said with my orinoco silver card and wavelan pci adapter etc...

 I can get it working...but MDK's installation does notNot big
 deal...eh?

I have no problems with getting wlan cards working on my laptop (orinoco, 
zoomair, or netgear).  I was never able to get them working properly on my 
desktop with a pci-to-pcmcia adaptor.  The problem appeared to be related to 
IRQs.  What sort of messages do you see in /var/log/messages related to the 
card and/or adaptor?  

I am about to try again - upon purchasing another pci-to-pcmcia adaptor.  If 
that fails, I will try USB which I know works (if you get the correct wlan 
usb device, that is).

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Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound

2002-11-15 Thread Praedor Tempus
On Thursday 14 November 2002 09:18 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:

I've done multiple installs on my laptop. (just testing some stuff
 before I settled down to do work conclusion Blue bytes ) (pun
 intended) and since installing more ram, I needed a larger suspend
 partition.  I lost sound during one of the installs myself for some odd
 reason.  Another had sound but in MCC sound card had no info.  Now I
 keep these two lines from modules.conf handy.

 alias sound-slot-0 maestro
 above snd-es1968 snd-pcm-oss

   Now Mine is a compaq not an IBM but it does have the same sound
 card.   I'd also recommend going to IBM's site as they have some pretty
 extensive docs on Linux on the ThinkPad.
[...]

Thanks for the info but...

I just went back to a custom 2.4.18-6mdk kernel and sound works again just 
fine.  Since the hardware is oldish and never changes, there is obviously a 
problem in the kernel and drivers (2.4.19).  I also have a fully functional 
supermount again and a functioning parallel port Zip drive (2.4.19 couldn't 
operate it either).

Trying to build the 2.4.19 kernel with the proper sound drivers built into the 
kernel instead of produced as modules failed miserably.  The kernel refuses 
to build when I try it.  I've gone back to a recompiled 2.4.18 kernel with 
the same drivers built as modules and all is well.  

I would say that 2.4.19 is the problem, not my hardware (which is invariant). 

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Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound

2002-11-15 Thread Praedor Tempus
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There should be no problems at all ESPECIALLY if you build your own 2.4.18 
kernel.  You will still have the 2.4.19 kernel there is you goof up 2.4.18 so 
you can try again.  As it is you can select from a set of kernels for install 
during installation anyway.  

What you will get is a fully working supermount, fully working sound, and none 
of the other problems that came with the new improved 2.4.19 kernel.  You 
will occassional run into a new stable kernel that's royally dorked up in 
several ways (2.4.19 is the latest), so it is nice to be able to go back to a 
perfectly fine working kernel like 2.4.18, in this case.  I've had to do this 
periodically in the past, primarily due to supermount problems.  I will not 
run a kernel that wont give me supermount.  It is indispensible for a number 
of things, not the least is its complete convenience - besides, Linus has 
made it known that he likes it and ultimately intends to make it part of the 
kernel rather than have it forever as an extraneous patch.

praedor

On Friday 15 November 2002 11:59 am, Franki wrote:
 Are there any other probs that come about loading a 2.4.18 kernel in
 mdk9.0??

 if there isn't, I might try compiling one myself.. I miss supermount..:-)

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 Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound

 On Thursday 14 November 2002 09:18 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 I've done multiple installs on my laptop. (just testing some stuff
  before I settled down to do work conclusion Blue bytes ) (pun
  intended) and since installing more ram, I needed a larger suspend
[...]
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[expert] Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 royally screwed my sound

2002-11-14 Thread Praedor Tempus
I have an IBM Thinkpad with an ESS Solo1 sound card.  It has  worked fine 
with most previous Mandrake kernels up to 2.4.18.  I recently built and 
installed the Mandrake 2.4.19 kernel (with the correct sound settings 
selected in xconfig) and find it has totally croaked my sound.  

There is no /dev/dsp, no sound-slot-0, no sound-card-0, nothing.  If I try to 
run DrakConf and then run the harddrake to resetup the sound card, it fails 
because it cannot find sound-slot-0.  I have done a system search and 
naturally this module doesn't exist.  

I have always used Alsa sound on my thinkpad and it has worked.  Now that alsa 
has been blended into the kernel, it no longer works.  What does it take to 
get sound working?  

There are no sound modules getting loaded at all during bootup.  Running 
lspci -v produces this for my soundcard
:
00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive 
(rev 02)
Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI]: Unknown device 1002
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
I/O ports at 7800 [size=64]
I/O ports at 7850 [size=16]
I/O ports at 7870 [size=16]
I/O ports at 7890 [size=4]
I/O ports at 78a4 [size=4]
Capabilities: available only to root

Yup, there it is.  It's just that Mandrake kernel 2.4.19 doesn't see it.

What arcane trick is now necessary to get sound working again?

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