Re: GNOME ASIA logo competition

2019-07-02 Thread Richard Stallman
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  > All JavaScript served on that page comes from GNOME hosted servers and
  > it is all MIT licensed, as is the entirety of GitLab CE, which is what
  > we're running.

It is possible to fix the problem by adding a machine-recognizable
license notice for the appropriate license at the top of the pertinent
pages, plus a source code pointer for each page.  See
https://gnu.org/software/librejs/free-your-javascript.html for
documentation.

The source pointers are needed because these pages contain compiled
code.  (More precisely, minified -- but that is a kind of
compilation.)  It is ok to use minified code, but it needs to come
with the corresponding source code.

The term "MIT license" is ambiguous -- it stands for either the X11
license or the Expat license.  You can tell which by looking at the
actual license text in the source and comparing with those two entries
in https://gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html.

The license notice should say which specific license.

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Re: GNOME ASIA logo competition

2019-07-02 Thread Richard Stallman
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  > The problem here is LibreJS not being able to realize this is free
  > software, so you should talk about it with them instead.

It is impossible to tell whether code is free by looking at the code
itself.  The only way to tell is from the license notice (if any)
attached to the code.  That is how you or I would determine whether
a given file of code is free, and that is how LibreJS does it.

See https://gnu.org/software/librejs/free-your-javascript.html.

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Re: GNOME ASIA logo competition

2019-07-02 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 22:11 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
> I am sad to report that this page seems to require nonfree Javascript
> code.  Looking at the page with LibreJS to protect me from nonfree
> Javascript code, I don't see any of the logos.
>
> Would you please post them so that they can be seen in the Free
> World?

Feel free to actively fix the problem you are facing by providing a
merge request in https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15621

Cheers,
andre
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Re: GNOME ASIA logo competition

2019-07-02 Thread Britt Yazel via foundation-list
The page you cannot see is a standard GitLab issue making use of the
standard upstream GitLab code. Can you let us know which non-free
JavaScript is in offense? A solution to this will have to be taken back to
the upstream GitLab project

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:11 PM Richard Stallman  wrote:

> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]]
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>
>   > There are 29 logos competing with each other and you can vote for your
> 3
>   > favorites by leaving a comment here:
>   > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Events/GNOMEAsia/issues/46
>
> I am sad to report that this page seems to require nonfree Javascript
> code.  Looking at the page with LibreJS to protect me from nonfree
> Javascript code, I don't see any of the logos.
>
> Would you please post them so that they can be seen in the Free World?
> Please do not make running a nonfree program a precondition for
> participating in some Gnome activities.
>
>
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Re: GNOME ASIA logo competition

2019-07-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 22:11 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
>   > There are 29 logos competing with each other and you can vote for
> your 3
>   > favorites by leaving a comment here:
>   > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Events/GNOMEAsia/issues/46 
> 
> I am sad to report that this page seems to require nonfree Javascript
> code.  Looking at the page with LibreJS to protect me from nonfree
> Javascript code, I don't see any of the logos.

All JavaScript served on that page comes from GNOME hosted servers and
it is all MIT licensed, as is the entirety of GitLab CE, which is what
we're running.

Neil
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Re: GNOME ASIA logo competition

2019-07-02 Thread Mathieu Bridon via foundation-list
On Tue, 2019-07-02 at 09:14 +0200, Felipe Borges wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 4:11 AM Richard Stallman  wrote:
> > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please
> > consider]]]
> > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all
> > enemies, ]]]
> > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example.
> > ]]]
> > 
> >   > There are 29 logos competing with each other and you can vote
> > for your 3
> >   > favorites by leaving a comment here:
> >   > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Events/GNOMEAsia/issues/46
> > 
> > I am sad to report that this page seems to require nonfree
> > Javascript
> > code.  Looking at the page with LibreJS to protect me from nonfree
> > Javascript code, I don't see any of the logos.
> > 
> > Would you please post them so that they can be seen in the Free
> > World?
> > Please do not make running a nonfree program a precondition for
> > participating in some Gnome activities.
> 
> This page is hosted in our own infrastructure.

It's also entirely free software Javascript code, since we use Gitlab
Community Edition, not the nonfree Enterprise Edition.

The problem here is LibreJS not being able to realize this is free
software, so you should talk about it with them instead.


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Re: GNOME ASIA logo competition

2019-07-02 Thread Felipe Borges
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 4:11 AM Richard Stallman  wrote:
>
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>   > There are 29 logos competing with each other and you can vote for your 3
>   > favorites by leaving a comment here:
>   > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Events/GNOMEAsia/issues/46
>
> I am sad to report that this page seems to require nonfree Javascript
> code.  Looking at the page with LibreJS to protect me from nonfree
> Javascript code, I don't see any of the logos.
>
> Would you please post them so that they can be seen in the Free World?
> Please do not make running a nonfree program a precondition for
> participating in some Gnome activities.

This page is hosted in our own infrastructure.

>
>
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