My video card and the config

2004-08-06 Thread Schaballie Mx Jeroen
Hi
my name is schaballie jeroen 
and i like to know what that i have to choose.

i have as video card an Hercules 3d propher 4000xt, but this model is not avaible in 
the database. what should i do to configure this correctly, because i've read and 
tried so much these days and i doesn't find it.

thx

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Updating local copy of documentation

2004-08-06 Thread Tom Munro Glass
When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in the 
articles and books directories under /usr/share/doc/ including the essential 
handbook.

Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought that 
maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparently 
not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it would 
be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.

Regards,

Tom Munro Glass
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How I took my machine down and fixed it.

2004-08-06 Thread Benjamin Polidore
I had a bit of a unique experience with my FreeBSD 5.2.1 server, and I 
thought I'd share it because I found a lot of my questions difficult to 
answer.

I have a Via C3 800 processor on this particular server, and I thought 
I'd recompile with the cpu flag set in make.conf.  dmesg reports this:

CPU: VIA C3 Ezra (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU)
So I set the flag to i686 (I would later learn that this processor only 
supports the i586/mmx flag) and did a make buildworld.  No problem 
here, but when I did make installworld, things went very wrong.

Errors and core dumps (illegal instruction) started raining down, and 
then I lost power and when I powered up, the server was a goner.

So I tried to log in from the serial console, but NOTHING worked.  In 
single user mode, I couldn't even run ls.

This is a big problem.
To begin fixing the system, I downloaded 5.2.1's disc2 iso and tried to 
log into the live filesystem shell, but sysinstall couldn't mount the 
CD.

I searched around and realized that I was using a CD drive that 
supports DMA, so I had to turn that on before booting up:

OK set hw.ata.ata_dma=1
OK set  hw.ata.atapi_dma=1
OK boot
Now I could get into the live filesystem, and I felt pretty good about 
my plan.  I wanted to overwrite /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (as 
well as libexet, etc) from the live disc.

So first I had to mount the drives.
I tried to mount my root slice first and was greeted with some problems:
mount -w /dev/ad0s1a /mnt/root
Resulted in:
Operation Not Permitted
But I could mount my usr slice.  Again, with a bit of research, I 
realized that since these slices were dirty, they needed to be fsck'd 
before I could mount them.  I tried fsck, but that complained about a 
lack of fstab.  So I had to do a:

fsck_ffs -y /dev/ad0s1a
On each slice before I could mount.
Mounting worked fine once I had done this, so I tried to start copying 
files, and was greeted with more errors.  This time, again:

Operation Not Permitted
For each copy.  This seemed really confusing to me, and after a lot of 
internet research, I found that I needed to unset the system immutable 
flag.

chflags -R noschg /mnt/root
..etc
Now I could copy files from the fixit disc, and I was able to reboot 
and do a proper make build/installworld with i586/mmx.

So my system is back after many hours of frustration.  Hope this can 
help someone else out there.

Yours,
Ben Polidore
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Help Debugging KShell Script???

2004-08-06 Thread Hakim Z. Singhji
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Hello Everyone,
I need some help with this shell script.  I originally wrote it in ksh
and I not really familiar with bash.  However, that is what I'm using at
home now and I don't have ksh on any of my machines... Could you folks
help me convert this script to bash...I don't think the arithmatic
operator bc is a bash option.  It appears that is where the first bug
is at.
Please see the attached (encrypted/compressed) script for any additional
details.  You must import my public key to open the attached file.
**
gpg --decrypt swap_mon.ksh.sig
**
Thanks in advance
HZS
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Re: IPFW - Allowed but Denied is shown in my logs

2004-08-06 Thread SrotBULL
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On 2004-08-04 20:31, Srot BULL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2004-08-04 17:13, Srot BULL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why are the above firewall logs telling me that it has denied my TCP
packets and yet I am not experiencing some problems in my emails and
access to the internet through port 80. [...]
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
Show us the full ruleset.  Otherwise we're just guessing...

$CMD 00240 allow tcp from me to any out via $IFN setup keep-state uid root
Hmm.  I'm not sure if this is a good idea, but it's unrelated to the
denied packets you're seeing :-/
I will RTFM about this...Thank you.
$CMD 00300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $IFN
$CMD 00301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via $IFN
$CMD 00302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via $IFN 
You might want to also deny incoming packets from these addresses, or fall
back to the default firewall rule -- whatever that rule is (deny log all
in your case).
I think I can do this...I guess...
$CMD 00305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via $IFN
Hmmm, what is this address block supposed to be here for?
I am sorry, I only copied this ruleset from the article...I really need 
to get back in RTFM and read again the article...maybe I missed something.


#reserved for doc's#
$CMD 00307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $IFN 
And this one?
This one too...
A better approach that will avoid forcing everyone to wait until their
connections times out is to reply with an RST packet, which is the standard
way TCP would reply if no auth/ident service was running at all.
I need some reading to understand what you just advised...Thank you.
Fragments are not late-arriving packets ;-)

#* Reject  Log all incoming connections from the outside *#
$CMD 00499 deny log all from any to any in via $IFN
This one is redundant, since it will only do the same as the one below:
OK...
# Everything else is denied by default
# DENY and LOG all packets that fell through to see what they are
$CMD 00999 deny log all from any to any

My basis for my rulesets are taken from:
http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/
 
AFAIK, the author of the page is a reader of the list too.  I can't find
anything wrong with the syntax of your rules.  The only weird thing I noticed
were the two hard-wired address blocks I mentioned above.  Perhaps the author
of the initial ruleset can help you more ;)
It was kind enough for the author to drop me an email...
and, thank you for your advices too...I will base my rulesets from yours 
and other peoples' advices, and re-read that article for a better 
understanding...and maybe I can tune my rulesets more to better fit my 
system.
Have a nice day...

SrotBULL
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CVS Questions

2004-08-06 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
I was contemplating banging together a quick script to find the fastest 
CVS mirrors which essentially tries to retrieve a small distribution from 
all the available CVS servers.  Does this seem like the type of thing that 
would be well-recieved into the base-distro or ports?  Or would it simply 
be seen as putting extra load on the CVS servers?

An optional thing I would be interested in putting in this is the ability 
to disfavor any server which was close to its access limit.  Is there any 
support in the protocol for knowing which user out of how many you are?

-Dan Mahoney
--
Hate fedora with a white hot burning passion right now though ... damn thing is 
Linux-XP(tm)
-Bill Nolan
2/24/04
Dan Mahoney
Techie,  Sysadmin,  WebGeek
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Re: IPFW - Allowed but Denied is shown in my logs

2004-08-06 Thread SrotBULL
Ian Smith wrote:
 On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Message: 11
   From: Srot BULL [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Giorgos Keramidas wrote:Show us the full ruleset. 
Otherwise we're just guessing...
  My apologies, below is my complete ruleset:

 [..]

   #* Deny ident *#
   $CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any in via $IFN
 I think perhaps you meant:
   $CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via $IFN

 as yours denied all remaining TCP, making some rules below irrelevant,
 including allows for www, ssh etc if you ever wanted to enable these.

 You'd also likely do better using reset rather than deny - assuming this
 rule really was meant to block ident - to avoid timeout delays on mail.
   #* Deny all Netbios service. 137=name, 138=datagram, 139=session *#
   #* Netbios is MS/Windows sharing services. *#
   #* Block MS/Windows hosts2 name server requests 81 *#
   $CMD 00320 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via $IFN
   $CMD 00321 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via $IFN
   $CMD 00322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via $IFN
   $CMD 00323 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via $IFN

 None of these or any other tcp .. in via $IFN rules below are ever seen.

 [..]
   #* Deny ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table *#
   $CMD 00332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $IFN

 That rule is also not seen ..

 [..]
   #* Reject  Log all incoming connections from the outside *#
   $CMD 00499 deny log all from any to any in via $IFN

 .. nor that one, for TCP packets ..

   My basis for my rulesets are taken from:
   http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/

 Cheers, Ian

Thank you for your advices...
I will get myself a fairly dedicated time infront of my pc to better 
understand things.
You have a nice day...

SrotBULL
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Help Debugging Kshell Script???

2004-08-06 Thread Hakim Z. Singhji
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Hello Everyone,
I need some help with this shell script.  I originally wrote it in ksh
and I not really familiar with bash.  However, that is what I'm using at
home now and I don't have ksh on any of my machines... Could you folks
help me convert this script to bash...I don't think the arithmatic
operator bc is a bash option.  It appears that is where the first bug
is at.
Please see the attached (encrypted/compressed) script for any additional
details.  You must import my public key to open the attached file.
**
gpg --decrypt swap_mon.ksh.sig
**
Thanks in advance
HZS
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identifying and fixing server I/O slowdowns

2004-08-06 Thread Jeff Kramer
Oh great and wise FreeBSD gurus,
I've been running FreeBSD boxes for about five years with great 
results (up to 6 at the moment), but recently one of my machines has 
started to seriously act up.  Every time a heavy disk operation (say, 
tar'ing a 1 gig directory) occurs the system slows to a crawl, and 
requests to apache/php/mysql sites hosted on it just hang.

The system is a dual p3 1.13ghz box with a gig of ram and mirrored 80 
gig WD800BB drives on a Promise TX2 controller.  The raid isn't 
degraded.  There's a dedicated 1.5 gig swap partition and a swap file 
on the /usr partition.  We had some apache processes go nuts one 
time, which is why I added the swap file.

We run about 15 jails on the machine, with MySQL in the server proper 
and apache/php running inside the jails.  I initially thought it was 
a rogue process taking down the machine, but it seems to be that any 
heavy disk activity for more than a few minutes brings about the 
slowdown.  It doesn't happen instantly, but after a minute or two 
things will slow to a crawl.

I've recompiled the kernel a few times, upgraded to the latest 
4-STABLE rev, and even turned on device polling, but nothing seems to 
be helping.  It doesn't seem to happen on another machine we have 
with identical hardware.

My sysctl.conf:
kern.ipc.somaxconn=4096
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=32768
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=32768
net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect=1
net.inet.icmp.log_redirect=1
net.inet.ip.redirect=0
net.inet6.ip6.redirect=0
net.link.ether.inet.max_age=1200
net.inet.icmp.bmcastecho=0
net.inet.icmp.maskrepl=0
kern.maxfiles=65536
kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1
kern.polling.enable=1
And a netstat -m:
301/928/131072 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):
301 mbufs allocated to data
287/874/32768 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
1980 Kbytes allocated to network (2% of mb_map in use)
0 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines
And here's a typical systat -v snapshot while the machine's 'ok':
3 usersLoad  0.32  0.38  0.31  Aug  6 00:03
Mem:KBREALVIRTUAL VN PAGER  SWAP PAGER
Tot   Share  TotShareFree in  out in  out
Act  221588   38656   747652   117796   39404 count4   3
All 1024156   41620  1546136   144132 pages   18   5
 Interrupts
Proc:r  p  d  s  wCsw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt 21 cow1156 total
 2 2 70   343  63322119 1156   57  397 186992 wirefxp0 irq2
   623848 act  13 
ohci0 irq9
 4.4%Sys   1.0%Intr  2.5%User  0.0%Nice 92.1%Idl   176096 inact11 mux irq10
||||||||||  37220 cache   fdc0 irq6
==+ 2184 free   1004 clk irq0
  daefr   128 rtc irq8
Namei Name-cacheDir-cache  15 prcfr
Calls hits% hits%   5 react
  126  125   99   pdwake
  340 zfodpdpgs
Disks   ad4   ad6   fd0   md0 119 ofod  1 intrn
KB/t   0.00 16.72  0.00  0.00  34 %slo-z   114304 buf
tps   011 0 0 401 tfree   173 dirtybuf
MB/s   0.00  0.17  0.00  0.00   70310 desiredvnodes
% busy0 9 0 0   64089 numvnodes
54829 freevnodes

And here's a systat -v snapshop while the machine's choking:
4 usersLoad  0.39  0.35  0.31  Aug  6 00:08
Mem:KBREALVIRTUAL VN PAGER  SWAP PAGER
Tot   Share  TotShareFree in  out in  out
Act  191344   34248   728736   117268   51916 count16
All 1024676   37500  2075520   144188 pages2   67
 Interrupts
Proc:r  p  d  s  wCsw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt 29 cow1698 total
 5 2 70   573  74423171 1699  225  367 180904 wirefxp0 irq2
   640404 act 335 
ohci0 irq9
 5.7%Sys   1.9%Intr  7.5%User  0.0%Nice 84.9%Idl   153116 inact   236 mux irq10
||||||||||  50252 cache   fdc0 irq6
===+ 1664 free999 clk irq0
  daefr   128 rtc irq8
Namei Name-cacheDir-cache  93 prcfr
Calls hits% hits%   1 react
 8693 8196   94   120 pdwake
  308 zfod   2693 pdpgs
Disks   ad4   ad6   fd0   md0 

MPS version control

2004-08-06 Thread FreeBSD Daemon
Dear list
 
I just bought a Supermicro P4SCT.
The BIOS has an option called MPS version of the operating system.
Could someone tell me what the MPS version of FreeBSD 4.10 is, and maybe
what MPS actually means?!
 
TIA
 
zheyu
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Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread Jorn Argelo
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On Friday 06 August 2004 04:58, Brett Glass wrote:
 http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631

Probably not. Intel isn't going to keep exactly the same architecture as AMD 
has now. They'll make a few minor ajustments to fine-tune their CPU.

Cheers,

Jorn

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CPUID maximum value

2004-08-06 Thread H. Sandring
Dear list
 
Should CPUID maximum value be limited to 3 for FreeBSD 4.x?
How is it with FreeBSD 5x?
 
TIA
 
zheyu
 
 
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Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread Massimiliano Stucchi
On 050804, 20:58, Brett Glass wrote:
 http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631

You should look at the IA64 port, not the AMD64.

Cheers
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where is KDE 3.2.3 theme manager?

2004-08-06 Thread Karel J. Bosschaart

Where can I find the KDE theme manager (3.2.3)? Googling reveals that there 
will be a new one for 3.3, but what about 3.2.3? I can't find it in 
Control Center, and I can't find anything in ports. Although it's long ago
(probably KDE 2) I'm pretty sure that I once had a KDE theme manager.

Karel.
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Re: irc resuming through natd

2004-08-06 Thread Nagilum
I'm not completely sure what you mean, but if your client does not 
reconnect after a disconnect maybe you could try another client? I found 
irssi to be a good replacement for ircII in that regard..
Kind regards,
Alex.

cedrick.gaillard wrote:
hi,
it's impossible for me to do irc resuming through may freebsd gateway.
i was on freebsd 4.7 and i am now on freebsd 5.2.1 current and the
problem persists on both versions.
someone have a good way to do irc resuming?
here is my natd.conf :
log yes
log_denied yes
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
interface xl0
punch_fw 1:20
log_ipfw_denied yes
i use ipfw
if my other computer is connected directly on internet, it have no
problem.
Thanks
cédrick
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RE: irc resuming through natd

2004-08-06 Thread cedrick.gaillard
Thank you but the problem is not my irc client, the problem is in
libalias(3).

I patched the source alias_irc.c with the patch found here :
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/50310
The patch must not be applied at line 140 but at line 155 on -CURRENT

All works fine now.

thanks
cédrick gaillard
 

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 À : cedrick.gaillard
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 Objet : Re: irc resuming through natd
 
 I'm not completely sure what you mean, but if your client 
 does not reconnect after a disconnect maybe you could try 
 another client? I found irssi to be a good replacement for 
 ircII in that regard..
 Kind regards,
 Alex.
 
 cedrick.gaillard wrote:
 
 hi,
  
 it's impossible for me to do irc resuming through may 
 freebsd gateway.
 i was on freebsd 4.7 and i am now on freebsd 5.2.1 current and the 
 problem persists on both versions.
  
 someone have a good way to do irc resuming?
  
 here is my natd.conf :
 log yes
 log_denied yes
 use_sockets yes
 same_ports yes
 interface xl0
 punch_fw 1:20
 log_ipfw_denied yes
  
 i use ipfw
 if my other computer is connected directly on internet, it have no 
 problem.
  
 Thanks
 cédrick
 
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Unreal Tournament 2004 on 5.2.1?

2004-08-06 Thread Ralph M. Los
Hi,
I'm thinking of building an Unreal Tournament 2004 server, and
am curious to know if anyone has it working on FreeBSD 5.2.1?  Any
suggestions, pointers, etc are welcome.

Thanks,

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Newbie Security Question

2004-08-06 Thread James A. Coulter
I recently got my firewall up and configured (many thanks to JJB and everyone else for 
their help) and have been reading the daily security message from root with a great 
deal of interest.

My question is, when I see entries like this:

Aug  5 17:55:54 sara sshd[2099]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
+port 40515 ssh2
Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2101]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
+port 60426 ssh2
Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2103]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
+port 54447 ssh2
Aug  5 17:55:59 sara sshd[2105]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
+port 44460 ssh2

is it safe to assume someone has been trying to hack my system?

I did a whois search on the IP and it went to a provider in Colorado.

I'm asking because I'm curious - thanks again for everyone's help.

Jim C.
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openoffice on freebsd broke?

2004-08-06 Thread Duane Winner
Hello all,
I do a cvsup on ports-all daily, and the other day I noticed that 
openoffice-1.1.2 is being report as out of date and that the port has 1.1.3:

openoffice-1.1.2   needs updating (port has 1.1.3)
So I did a '# portupgrade openoffice'
It seemed to compile and install just fine (no errors or problems), but 
now it crashes every time I run it.

As soon as I click on an openoffice window:
A pop-up window message reports
	OpenOffice 1.1.2: An unrecoverable error has occurred. All modified 
files have been saved and and can probably be recovered at program restart.

If I start openoffice-1.1 from an xterm, I see the following output 
after the crash:

crash_report: not found
Fatal exception: signal 11
Stack:
Abort trap (core dumped)
I have replicated this on three different computers, all running 
5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

Anybody else having this problem?
I've reported this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], but 
have not seen or heard anything else.

Thanks for any feedback,
Duane Winner
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The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda

2004-08-06 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD.  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.

Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?  Please
let me know: I'm constantly updating it.

Greg
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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2004-08-06 Thread Greg Lehey
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
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Last update $Date: 2003/03/09 22:09:31 $

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you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
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Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
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I:Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

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questions (the hackers).

   Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking
   into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
   activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out
   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
   security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
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In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
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RE: freebsd router

2004-08-06 Thread Michael Clark
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 Hello
 
 I am running zebra in freebsd 5.2 as router
 
 Can you teach me how to optimize the box to designate
 router only?
 
 I don't need to run any application
 
 and Which command to monitor and box performance and
 the network also
the top command will give you performance information.

For real time network monitoring try iftop and trafshow in ports

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Re: CVS Questions

2004-08-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I was contemplating banging together a quick script to find the fastest 
 CVS mirrors which essentially tries to retrieve a small distribution from 
 all the available CVS servers.  Does this seem like the type of thing that 
 would be well-recieved into the base-distro or ports?  Or would it simply 
 be seen as putting extra load on the CVS servers?

The problem is that the response you would get would be only valid
for where you are running the script.   Every host in the world would
get different results, because they would have different conditions
and connections.

Having one person running something like that wouldn't put much
load on anything, but, if everyone in FreeBSD land fired something
like that up everytime they were to download stuff, it was add 
unnecessary load.

 An optional thing I would be interested in putting in this is the ability 
 to disfavor any server which was close to its access limit.  Is there any 
 support in the protocol for knowing which user out of how many you are?
 
 -Dan Mahoney
 
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Re: Headless Install

2004-08-06 Thread Lee Harr
On 2004-08-03, Maksym Marchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And what you can do with headless PC? Can you control this PC only in
 command prompt? Or (may be) you can use anything like X - twm?



Sure. You would use the headless machine to run X clients.

I have a headless PC that serves X sessions for a dozen thin
terminals. The server actually has video if I need to access
the console (I do not have a serial console set up) but I almost
never have a monitor or keyboard attached to the system.


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Re: Using rrestore with ssh?

2004-08-06 Thread Lee Harr
On 2004-08-03, Steve Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone have a tip on using rrestore with ssh instead
 of the rexecd and rcmd facility?  My attempts at using
 rrestore result in 

 dhcp-78-74:kargl[207] rrestore -x -b 64 -f troutmask:/dev/nsa0
 Connection to troutmask.apl.washington.edu established.
 IP_TOS:IPTOS_THROUGHPUT setsockopt: Operation not supported
 TCP_NODELAY setsockopt: Operation not supported
 rshd: Login incorrect.
 Lost connection to remote host.
 dhcp-78-74:kargl[208]

 On troutmask, I have uncommented the appropriate inetd.conf
 lines that should allow rmt, rdump, and rrestore to work.



Have you read the handbook section on backups?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html

My take is that it may be easier to just use restore instead
of rrestore.


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Where'd the list go?

2004-08-06 Thread Joseph Peterson
I haven't seen any activity since 9 or so last night, and its after
noon! whats up?
(please CC me as I'm not getting my list feed for some reason)
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ADSL (1 dyn IP) = FreeBSD = WinGate = NAT Network???

2004-08-06 Thread Andrew
Hi!

I've been using Wingate for months now to distribute an internet
connection among 10 users (NAT). Stunned by regular failures of Windows
2000, Wingate and other evil software, I decided to switch to FreeBSD. I
read the handbook and about 3000 more pages of manuals / how-to's /
guides. I set up FreeBSD with all applications I currently need for
server tasks.

I now need to test some applications, while keeping a part of the load
on the Wingate machine. What I want to do is connect to internet via
ADSL, using the bsd box, and let Wingate use the connection through the
box.

What is the best way to retain most of the NAT functionality?
If you are happy to not know what Wingate is, try to assume that it is
just another nat-box. Can bsd somehow forward connection, so that the
nat-box almost feels like it has a real IP?

Best regards,
Andrew

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Re: Updating local copy of documentation

2004-08-06 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Tom Munro Glass wrote:
When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in the 
articles and books directories under /usr/share/doc/ including the essential 
handbook.

Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought that 
maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparently 
not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it would 
be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.

Regards,
Tom Munro Glass
 

You'd do it in similar fashion; in fact you could rather easily
script it, I suppose.
$cvsup doc-all[*]  
$cd /usr/doc  make install clean

*see /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile for details.
HTH,
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: CVS Questions

2004-08-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 01:28:04AM -0400, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
 I was contemplating banging together a quick script to find the fastest 
 CVS mirrors which essentially tries to retrieve a small distribution from 
 all the available CVS servers.  Does this seem like the type of thing that 
 would be well-recieved into the base-distro or ports?  Or would it simply 
 be seen as putting extra load on the CVS servers?

What? Like /usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup/ ?  You'ld be reinventing
the wheel.
 
 An optional thing I would be interested in putting in this is the ability 
 to disfavor any server which was close to its access limit.  Is there any 
 support in the protocol for knowing which user out of how many you are?

Not so far as I know.  However, a machine with too many active cvsup
clients will tend to slow down quite significantly, so the 'find
fastest server' type script above generally steers you towards the
more lightly loaded servers.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Updating local copy of documentation

2004-08-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 03:41:19PM +1200, Tom Munro Glass wrote:
 When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in the 
 articles and books directories under /usr/share/doc/ including the essential 
 handbook.
 
 Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought that 
 maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparently 
 not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it would 
 be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.

Yes, you can update the doc sources using cvsup(1), and build them
locally.  You need to install one of the textproc/docproj ports
(install one with jadetex if you want to be able to create PDF
output), and use a supfile like so:

*default host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress

doc-all

A handy way of doing that is simply to make the following settings in
/etc/make.conf:

SUP_UPDATE= yes
#
SUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
SUPHOST=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org
SUPFILE=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
PORTSSUPFILE=   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile

Then you can just type 'make update' in either /usr/src or in /usr/doc
to pull down the latest sources.

Note that will bring down the sources for all of the different
language versions of the docs. If you just want the English versions,
you can use a refuse file like:

doc/bn_*
doc/da_*
doc/de_*
doc/el_*
doc/es_*
doc/fr_*
doc/it_*
doc/ja_*
doc/nl_*
doc/no_*
doc/pl_*
doc/pt_*
doc/ru_*
doc/sr_*
doc/tr_*
doc/zh_*

As ever, start by reading the documentation, in this the FreeBSD
Documentation Project Primer:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html

Note that locally built copies of the documentation end up somewhere
below /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1, unlike the copy of the handbook
installed with the system in /usr/share/doc

Cheers,

Matthew

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IBM x-series 335 keyboard problem

2004-08-06 Thread Iain Sutcliffe
Hi,
 
I am trying to install v5.2.1 onto an IBM x-series 335 server. It has a
single cable with which to attach the monitor/keyboard/mouse that enables
daisy chaining of servers.
 
When I install I get to a point where I have to enter information and the
keyboard doesn't work. I've tried several times with no luck.
 
Do you have any known problems with these systems?
 
Regards
 
Iain Sutcliffe

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Re: Fwd: How to read bad blocks error message marking of same

2004-08-06 Thread Gary Corcoran
Mike Meyer wrote:
Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves.
Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block goes bad and you get
a read error, the drive isn't going to do any substituting at that
point.  You'll just continue to get the read error if you try to
access (read) that block.  It's only when you allow another *write*
to that block (e.g. by deleting the original file and writing new
files) that the drive will automatically substitute a spare block
for the one that went bad.
By
the time you've got blocks going bad that the OS sees, the drive is in
really sad shape. You should replace it with a new drive ASAP.
If, after you have (for certain!) overwritten the bad block(s) and
you still get errors, then yes the drive is on its way out.  But
simply getting a read error (without any overwrite attempt) from
a block or two doesn't necessarily mean that the drive is turning
to mush, now does it?
Gary
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Re: Updating local copy of documentation

2004-08-06 Thread Daniel Bye
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 03:41:19PM +1200, Tom Munro Glass wrote:
 When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in the 
 articles and books directories under /usr/share/doc/ including the essential 
 handbook.
 
 Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought that 
 maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparently 
 not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it would 
 be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.

You can get the latest version of hte docs using CVSup.  This is the
CVSUP file I use for that very purpose:

## BEGIN
*default host=cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
doc-all
## END

Naturally, you will want to change the host= to one near to you.

To have the docs updated when you do a `make update', you need to ensure
that you have `DOCSUPFILE=/path/to/doc-supfile' set in /etc/make.conf.

To save time and disk space, you can also tell the build system to only
build docs in one language, using `DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1' in
/etc/make.conf

Once you have gotten the latest sources, 

# cd /usr/doc
# make all install clean

and all should be well.  Note that you will need to install the
textproc/docproj port to be able to build the docs from the source.  You
can get more info at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/

HTH

Dan

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Re: Fwd: How to read bad blocks error message marking of same

2004-08-06 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 06), Gary Corcoran said:
 Mike Meyer wrote:
 
 Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves.
 
 Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block goes bad and you get a
 read error, the drive isn't going to do any substituting at that
 point.  You'll just continue to get the read error if you try to
 access (read) that block.  It's only when you allow another *write*
 to that block (e.g. by deleting the original file and writing new
 files) that the drive will automatically substitute a spare block for
 the one that went bad.

SCSI drives, at least, may do automatic reallocation on both reads and
writes ( camcontrol mode da0 -m 1, the ARRE and AWRE flags ).  If the
drive had to reread the block or had to use ECC to recover data, AND
the entire block was recovered, it will relocate the data if ARRE is
set.

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Re: Sound Driver

2004-08-06 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:55:15PM -0600, Sandbox Video Productions wrote:
 Starting KDE I always get this message. Then it just
 stalls
 
 Sound server informational message:
 Error while ititializing the sound driver:
 device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device not
 configured)
 The sound server will continue using the null output device

I used to get that error when I started KDE without having
loaded the driver for my sound card.  However the impact was
just that I couldn't hear any sound; KDE still started and
ran well (but quietly).

Depending on what sound card you have, it is likely that you
will want to add the following to /boot/loader.conf:

snd_pcm_enable=YES

That's assuming that you don't have it compiled into the kernel
(it isn't by default).  However, while that should fix the error
message when KDE loads, it probably won't resolve whatever is
causing KDE to stall.  Still, you have to take things one at a
time.

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Re: Updating local copy of documentation

2004-08-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Tom Munro Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in the 
 articles and books directories under /usr/share/doc/ including the essential 
 handbook.
 
 Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought that 
 maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparently 
 not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it would 
 be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.

You can build it from source (see the Documentation Project Handbook),
but it would be a lot less work to just download the prebuilt ones.
It should be a pretty simple matter to do that in a script that you
can add to your normal maintenance tasks.

Note that building the documentation requires you to install quite a
bit of software.  There's a port for it, of course, but if you're not
going to use jadetex (as one obvious example) for anything else, it's
overkill.  Especially if you're not going to try modifying the docs,
but just build them occasionally.
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Freebsd 5.x on Toshiba Portege 3500

2004-08-06 Thread J. Kenney
Good Afternoon All,

4.x boots/installs and works fine on my notebook (Toshiba Portege 3500), but
no version of 5.x has successfully booted (with/without ASPI, safe mode,
etc), but the strange thing is that if I load VMWare or VirtualPC 2004 and
try to install FreeBSD 5.x into the VM it also does not survive the boot up?

I was hoping that maybe someone has been able to get the Portege to boot,
and could help with advise.

Many thanks!

J. Kenney


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Re: Newbie Security Question

2004-08-06 Thread Dan Rue
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 08:26:01AM -0500, James A. Coulter wrote:
 I recently got my firewall up and configured (many thanks to JJB and everyone else 
 for their help) and have been reading the daily security message from root with a 
 great deal of interest.
 
 My question is, when I see entries like this:
 
 Aug  5 17:55:54 sara sshd[2099]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
 +port 40515 ssh2
 Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2101]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
 +port 60426 ssh2
 Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2103]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
 +port 54447 ssh2
 Aug  5 17:55:59 sara sshd[2105]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
 +port 44460 ssh2
 
 is it safe to assume someone has been trying to hack my system?
 
 Jim C.

Hi Jim, 

Yeah, I get these all the time.  I've always chalked it up to random
script kiddies.  Sometimes i get people trying to log in as generic
usernames like admin, guest, etc.  Make sure that PermitRootLogin is
either set to no or commented out in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, and of course
make sure you are using a good root password.

Now, if you really want to work yourself up, start browsing your
httpd-access logs :)

-dan
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Re: Fwd: How to read bad blocks error message marking of same

2004-08-06 Thread Gary Corcoran
Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Aug 06), Gary Corcoran said:
Mike Meyer wrote:

Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves.
Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block goes bad and you get a
read error, the drive isn't going to do any substituting at that
point.  You'll just continue to get the read error if you try to
access (read) that block.  It's only when you allow another *write*
to that block (e.g. by deleting the original file and writing new
files) that the drive will automatically substitute a spare block for
the one that went bad.

SCSI drives, at least, may do automatic reallocation on both reads and
writes ( camcontrol mode da0 -m 1, the ARRE and AWRE flags ).  If the
drive had to reread the block or had to use ECC to recover data, AND
the entire block was recovered, it will relocate the data if ARRE is
set.
Good to know, although I stopped buying SCSI disks (for home use)
years ago.  I presumed the more common case these days, that we
were talking about IDE disks.  In fact doesn't this (from the original
question):
ad0s1a: hard error
necessarily refer to an ATA (IDE) disk?  I don't believe any (current)
ATA disks will do automatic reallocation on reads, will they?  Though
of course serial ATA drives seem to be the future and are taking
on more and more SCSI-like features as time goes by.
Gary
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Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Aug 6, 2004, at 2:42 AM, Massimiliano Stucchi wrote:
On 050804, 20:58, Brett Glass wrote:
http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631
You should look at the IA64 port, not the AMD64.
Why?  This Intel chip referenced is NOT an IA64 architecture.  It is 
Intels EM64T 64/32 bit architecture based on Xeon/P4 and compatible 
with the AMD64 stuff

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Re: Newbie Security Question

2004-08-06 Thread mazpe
Hello James:

Thats just letting you know that someone from that IP Address tried to
access your system using the root account and the password they provided
failed to authenticate.

Could've been an ssh scanner or something of that nature.

Most likely script kiddies.  

Make sure you do not allow root to login via ssh by setting your
sshd_config PermitRootLogin no.

Use sudo or su - instead.

or you can always use key-based authentication.


Lester A. Mesa
aka: mazpe
-

On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 08:26, James A. Coulter wrote:
 I recently got my firewall up and configured (many thanks to JJB and everyone else 
 for their help) and have been reading the daily security message from root with a 
 great deal of interest.
 
 My question is, when I see entries like this:
 
 Aug  5 17:55:54 sara sshd[2099]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
 +port 40515 ssh2
 Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2101]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
 +port 60426 ssh2
 Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2103]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
 +port 54447 ssh2
 Aug  5 17:55:59 sara sshd[2105]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
 +port 44460 ssh2
 
 is it safe to assume someone has been trying to hack my system?
 
 I did a whois search on the IP and it went to a provider in Colorado.
 
 I'm asking because I'm curious - thanks again for everyone's help.
 
 Jim C.
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Re: cvsup fails because of xlib connection error

2004-08-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
chip [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just set up a new box using FreeBSD-5.2 and install cvsup. Now when I 
 run cvsup I get this -
 
 chip3# cvsup ports-supfile
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: No protocol specified
 
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: No protocol specified
 
 Lost the connection to the X server
 
 I have this in my /etc/hosts file (probably more than necessary, but I 
 was just trying to cover all my bases) -
 #
 ::1 localhost localhost.wiegand.org
 127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.wiegand.org
 192.168.0.7 chip3.wiegand.org
 127.0.0.1   chip3   chip3.wiegand.org
 10.0.0.1chip3   chip3.wiegand.org
 #
 
 What have I screwed up and how do I fix it?

Do you *want* the GUI?  If so, what do you have in your DISPLAY
variable?  If not, why not just specify the '-g' option?
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RE: CVS Questions

2004-08-06 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you use ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup?
Thanks, all, for pointing that out to me.
Clearly, I wasn't the first to have this idea.
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Re: Help Debugging Kshell Script???

2004-08-06 Thread David Fleck
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:
You must import my public key to open the attached file.
Why?  Why not just attach the plain file?
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Re: Freebsd 5.x on Toshiba Portege 3500

2004-08-06 Thread Vince Hoffman


On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, J. Kenney wrote:

 Good Afternoon All,

 4.x boots/installs and works fine on my notebook (Toshiba Portege 3500), but
 no version of 5.x has successfully booted (with/without ASPI, safe mode,
 etc), but the strange thing is that if I load VMWare or VirtualPC 2004 and
 try to install FreeBSD 5.x into the VM it also does not survive the boot up?

 I was hoping that maybe someone has been able to get the Portege to boot,
 and could help with advise.

Sorry to add a me too, but sadly I can only add that the portege A100 has
the same problems. however it runs 4.x very well with or without acpi.
(would like project evil for the wireless though.)

Vince


 Many thanks!

 J. Kenney


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Re: Updating local copy of documentation

2004-08-06 Thread Tom Munro Glass
On Saturday 07 August 2004 07:44, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 You can build it from source (see the Documentation Project Handbook),
 but it would be a lot less work to just download the prebuilt ones.
 It should be a pretty simple matter to do that in a script that you
 can add to your normal maintenance tasks.

 Note that building the documentation requires you to install quite a
 bit of software.  There's a port for it, of course, but if you're not
 going to use jadetex (as one obvious example) for anything else, it's
 overkill.  Especially if you're not going to try modifying the docs,
 but just build them occasionally.

Thanks to all who replied - this list is SO helpful.

Tom
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Re: Fwd: How to read bad blocks error message marking of same

2004-08-06 Thread David Schultz
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004, Gary Corcoran wrote:
 Dan Nelson wrote:
 
 In the last episode (Aug 06), Gary Corcoran said:
 
 Mike Meyer wrote:
 
 
 Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves.
 
 Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block goes bad and you get a
 read error, the drive isn't going to do any substituting at that
 point.  You'll just continue to get the read error if you try to
 access (read) that block.  It's only when you allow another *write*
 to that block (e.g. by deleting the original file and writing new
 files) that the drive will automatically substitute a spare block for
 the one that went bad.
 
 
 SCSI drives, at least, may do automatic reallocation on both reads and
 writes ( camcontrol mode da0 -m 1, the ARRE and AWRE flags ).  If the
 drive had to reread the block or had to use ECC to recover data, AND
 the entire block was recovered, it will relocate the data if ARRE is
 set.
 
 Good to know, although I stopped buying SCSI disks (for home use)
 years ago.  I presumed the more common case these days, that we
 were talking about IDE disks.  In fact doesn't this (from the original
 question):
 
 ad0s1a: hard error
 
 necessarily refer to an ATA (IDE) disk?  I don't believe any (current)
 ATA disks will do automatic reallocation on reads, will they?  Though
 of course serial ATA drives seem to be the future and are taking
 on more and more SCSI-like features as time goes by.

Both ATA and SCSI drives may relocate blocks that were difficult
to read (e.g. correctable errors, took multiple attempts, etc).
But if the block can't be recovered at all, the drive will still
report an error to the OS (in addition to relocation).
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installation of FreeBSD 4.10 on Dell PowerEdge 650 fails after reboot with mountroot

2004-08-06 Thread Spumonti
Just tried installing FreeBSD 4.10 on a Dell PowerEdge 650.   No
problems with the install, tried creating a partition with
dangerously dedicated and also, just using the entire disk with
standard bootmanager.

Each time, after the initial reboot I get an error:

Mounting root from ufs:ad0s1a
Root mount failed: 6
Mounting root from ufs:ad0a
Root mount failed: 6

Manual root filesystem specification:
fstype:device Mount device using filesystem fstype
eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a
? List valid disk boot devices
empty line Abort manual input

mountroot 

I tried:

mountroot ufs:/dev/ad4s1a

but that fails too.


The disk is a Seagate 120GB and it's actually ad4, not ad0.  If I
interrupt the boot process at:

FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:

and enter:

FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot: 0:ad(4,a)/kernel

the machine will boot properly.   I've tried two things I found while
checking on this:

1.  Adding to loader.conf:
rootdev=disk4s1a
root_disk_unit=0

2.  Rebuilding the kernel and adding:
optionsROOTDEVNAME=\ufs:ad4s1a\


Neither of which worked.Is there something I'm missing while doing
the installation?   If I look in  /dev   the devices are there ad4,
ad4s1, ad4s1a, ad4s1b, etc.

About at wit's end ... any help would be great.
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file system setup for new system - recommendations?

2004-08-06 Thread Jay O'Brien
I'm confused, and I ask for your collective help.

I successfully built a FreeBSD system using defaults. It works fine, 
so far. I will start over and rebuild the system now, carefully 
documenting each step. I will make some changes the second time. What 
I have right now is not mission critical, I'm just using it to learn.

I've learned that I need another partition to which I can write tar 
backups and then ftp them to one of my windows machines on my LAN. So, 
I've tried to identify the optimum configuration for the rebuild of my 
machine to accommodate that need. I have a 120GB IDE HD, so I don't have 
space problems. I presently have 128MB of RAM, but it looks like I 
should plan to accommodate an increase to 1024GB in the future.

I plan to host a few web pages, and hope to be able to ultimately run 
a MTA and mail lists using majordomo or mailman in the future. I have 
static IPs and permission to run a server on my internet access.

I've tried to absorb input from the FreeBSD on-line handbook, from Greg 
Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD, and from Michael Lucases' Absolute BSD.
What I read either conflicts or I just can't comprehend. Maybe I shouldn't 
have tried to compare these sources?

A Reference says keep the root section small, another says include /usr and 
/var in root, there's a discussion of the relative speed of the outside of 
a spinning HD to the middle of the HD, there's not an agreement on the 
size of the swap space, and, as I said, I'm confused. 

Here's where I am, and I would appreciate your collective comments. I'm 
persuaded to use 1026MB for swap, 8GB for root (/), 30GB for /backup tars, 
and the remainder for /home.  The /tmp, /usr, and /var directories would 
be included in the 8MB root. Web pages and mailing lists would be in home. 
I would be able to backup directories (or subdirectories) to tar files in 
the backup directory of sizes that wouldn't choke my windows machines when 
ftp'd to them for storage.

When I rebuild my system, I don't want to do it again for a while. Should 
I make root bigger? Should I have /tmp, /usr, and /var as separate 
partitions as the default install did for me when I built the system I'm 
learning on at present? 

If you had it to do all over again, given my parameters, what would you do?

Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, CA USA

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Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:

On Aug 6, 2004, at 2:42 AM, Massimiliano Stucchi
wrote:

 On 050804, 20:58, Brett Glass wrote:

http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631

 You should look at the IA64 port, not the AMD64.


Why?  This Intel chip referenced is NOT an IA64
architecture.  It is 
Intels EM64T 64/32 bit architecture based on Xeon/P4
and compatible 
with the AMD64 stuff

Chad


Hello,

Actually, what it says is, Intel's extensions, which
it first used in the Xeon and are called EM64T, are
compatible with AMD's extensions. I wouldn't infer
that to mean more than it says: Intel's _extensions_
are compatible AMD's _extensions_. A quick experiment
would tell. Because these same extensions exist in the
Xeon, by your reasoning, the AMD64 codebase should run
on a Xeon platform, nee?

Regards,

Stheg

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Re: Fwd: How to read bad blocks error message marking of same

2004-08-06 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:

  Modern drives deal with bad block substitution
all by themselves.
  
  Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block
goes bad and you get a
  read error, the drive isn't going to do any
substituting at that
  point.  You'll just continue to get the read
error if you try to
  access (read) that block.  It's only when you
allow another *write*
  to that block (e.g. by deleting the original
file and writing new
  files) that the drive will automatically
substitute a spare block for
  the one that went bad.
  
  
  SCSI drives, at least, may do automatic
reallocation on both reads and
  writes ( camcontrol mode da0 -m 1, the ARRE and
AWRE flags ).  If the
  drive had to reread the block or had to use ECC
to recover data, AND
  the entire block was recovered, it will relocate
the data if ARRE is
  set.
  
  Good to know, although I stopped buying SCSI disks
(for home use)
  years ago.  I presumed the more common case these
days, that we
  were talking about IDE disks.  In fact doesn't
this (from the original
  question):
  
  ad0s1a: hard error
  
  necessarily refer to an ATA (IDE) disk?  I don't
believe any (current)
  ATA disks will do automatic reallocation on reads,
will they?  Though
  of course serial ATA drives seem to be the
future and are taking
  on more and more SCSI-like features as time goes
by.
 
 Both ATA and SCSI drives may relocate blocks that
were difficult
 to read (e.g. correctable errors, took multiple
attempts, etc).
 But if the block can't be recovered at all, the
drive will still
 report an error to the OS (in addition to
relocation).

Hello,

A tool that all may find useful is SpinRite 6.0
available from Gibson Research at
http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm. It's not open
source or freeware but anybody with an Intel, AMD, or
TiVO system that uses a harddrive ought to have it.
Note: I am in no way affiliated with Gibson Research,
other than having used SpinRite since the days of
manually interleaving MFM drives.

HTH,

Stheg



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AW: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread Alexander Liebau
EM64T = AMD64 because they have a patent-sharing agreement...

so yes  amd64 codebase should run even on the newest lga775 pentium 4 or the
newest xeons which support em64t

greetings,

alex

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olloydson
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it was said:

On Aug 6, 2004, at 2:42 AM, Massimiliano Stucchi
wrote:

 On 050804, 20:58, Brett Glass wrote:

http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631

 You should look at the IA64 port, not the AMD64.


Why?  This Intel chip referenced is NOT an IA64
architecture.  It is
Intels EM64T 64/32 bit architecture based on Xeon/P4
and compatible
with the AMD64 stuff

Chad


Hello,

Actually, what it says is, Intel's extensions, which
it first used in the Xeon and are called EM64T, are
compatible with AMD's extensions. I wouldn't infer
that to mean more than it says: Intel's _extensions_
are compatible AMD's _extensions_. A quick experiment
would tell. Because these same extensions exist in the
Xeon, by your reasoning, the AMD64 codebase should run
on a Xeon platform, nee?

Regards,

Stheg

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Re: cvsup fails because of xlib connection error

2004-08-06 Thread chip
On Friday 06 August 2004 02:01 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

 Do you *want* the GUI?  If so, what do you have in your DISPLAY
 variable?  If not, why not just specify the '-g' option?

I don't necessarily need the gui, that's just what I'm used to using 
from previous installs. The -g option works fine. I don't know what you 
mean by the DISPLAY variable.

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win32codecs.tar.bz2

2004-08-06 Thread Brian Finniff
The MPlayer package requires win32codecs to be installed, but when I make 
it, it can not find the package and tells me to copy it to 
/usr/ports/distfiles/, however, when I do that, it tells me of an incorrect 
checksum. I find this odd because I cated the file with the checksums and 
they look the same (or very similiar, I took a quick snapshot way of looking 
at it). I do not know what the problem is, could someone help me?

I am running FreeBSD-5.1-Release, upgraded base and ports collection (it 
also did the same with the original).

Thank you, if you could help me I would be appriciative of it.

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Where do I ask about Palm issues?

2004-08-06 Thread Jonathon McKitrick

Where can I ask about FreeBSD specific Palm issues?  I'm following a
4.8-Release guideline on getting a Palm Tungsten to interface with my
computer, but I'm having problems.  What is the best mailing list to ask?

jm
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Re: file system setup for new system - recommendations?

2004-08-06 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:

by: Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm confused, and I ask for your collective help.
 
 I successfully built a FreeBSD system using
defaults. It works fine, 
 so far. I will start over and rebuild the system
now, carefully 
 documenting each step. I will make some changes the
second time. What 
 I have right now is not mission critical, I'm just
using it to learn.
 
 I've learned that I need another partition to which
I can write tar 
 backups and then ftp them to one of my windows
machines on my LAN. So, 
 I've tried to identify the optimum configuration for
the rebuild of my 
 machine to accommodate that need. I have a 120GB IDE
HD, so I don't have 
 space problems. I presently have 128MB of RAM, but
it looks like I 
 should plan to accommodate an increase to 1024GB in
the future.
 
 I plan to host a few web pages, and hope to be able
to ultimately run 
 a MTA and mail lists using majordomo or mailman in
the future. I have 
 static IPs and permission to run a server on my
internet access.
 
 I've tried to absorb input from the FreeBSD on-line
handbook, from Greg 
 Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD, and from Michael
Lucases' Absolute BSD.
 What I read either conflicts or I just can't
comprehend. Maybe I shouldn't 
 have tried to compare these sources?
 
 A Reference says keep the root section small,
another says include /usr and 
 /var in root, there's a discussion of the relative
speed of the outside of 
 a spinning HD to the middle of the HD, there's not
an agreement on the 
 size of the swap space, and, as I said, I'm
confused. 
 
 Here's where I am, and I would appreciate your
collective comments. I'm 
 persuaded to use 1026MB for swap, 8GB for root (/),
30GB for /backup tars, 
 and the remainder for /home.  The /tmp, /usr, and
/var directories would 
 be included in the 8MB root. Web pages and mailing
lists would be in home. 
 I would be able to backup directories (or
subdirectories) to tar files in 
 the backup directory of sizes that wouldn't choke my
windows machines when 
 ftp'd to them for storage.
 
 When I rebuild my system, I don't want to do it
again for a while. Should 
 I make root bigger? Should I have /tmp, /usr, and
/var as separate 
 partitions as the default install did for me when I
built the system I'm 
 learning on at present? 
 
 If you had it to do all over again, given my
parameters, what would you do?
 
 Jay O'Brien
 Rio Linda, CA USA
 

Hello,

First, I'll assume you intend to have a single IDE
drive and that won't change for the life of this
setup. Second, I'll accept your standard of what would
_I_ do and not discuss the merits or philosophical
differences of Messers. Lucas's and Lehey's
recommendations. Finally, I'll assume you meant that
you'll eventually have 1024MB (i.e. 1GB) of RAM, not
1024GB (i.e. 1TB). 
To begin, a 120GB drive is HUGE for a FBSD system
relative to a Windows system, so you don't need to
dole out space in a miserly fashion. However, you do
need to be able to back up your data, so don't go nuts
either. 
I tend to make my root partition 1GB. I have never
needed this much space and could get by half that, but
it's a nice round number, so why not?
Because you will eventually have 1GB of RAM, I would
allocate a /swap partition equal to twice the maximum
RAM the motherboard can hold. Don't underestimate how
long you will own the machine or the effort you will
put into squeezing the last ounce of performance in
the years to come. (Home machines tend to linger long
after corporate machines have been surplussed.) And
soon or later you'll be needing to post a core dump,
so you may as well be ready for it.
You say that you intend to host a few web pages, and
...ultimately run a MTA and mail lists. This means
you need a goodly amount of space in /var for the mail
_and_ the logs associated with the mail/web/firewall
programs, say 20-25GB (~20 percent of total drive
space).
The few web pages will become several domains as
time goes by, say 15-20GB (~15 percent of total drive
space) for /home or /www, whatever you call it.
The space needed for /usr isn't really substanial, say
10-12GB.
The hard part is figuring how much space you need for,
I would be able to backup directories (or
subdirectories) to tar files in the backup directory
of sizes that wouldn't choke my windows machines when 
ftp'd to them for storage. I have no idea what this
entails, so say another 20-25GB for that.
Thus, I have allocated between ~70-86GB. Leave the
rest unallocated. Over time, one or more of these
estimates will be too low. When that happens, you will
be able to add space to the appropriate partition(s)
and use growfs(8) to remedy the situation.
This setup should last you a year or so. By then
you'll want to optimize your setup, maybe have
separate mail and web servers, whatever. It all
depends on how much of your life FBSD takes over.

HTH,

Stheg





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Re: installation of FreeBSD 4.10 on Dell PowerEdge 650 fails after reboot with mountroot

2004-08-06 Thread Mark
I don't own a dell power edge but I seem to remember another thread with this same 
problem
and I think the problem seemed to be how the dell found the cdrom and harddrives, I 
think
if you look at how the ide/ata cables are run, this may be the problem, but my memory 
is flakky
hope this points you to the right fix.

On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 07:21:15PM -0500, Spumonti wrote:
 Just tried installing FreeBSD 4.10 on a Dell PowerEdge 650.   No
 problems with the install, tried creating a partition with
 dangerously dedicated and also, just using the entire disk with
 standard bootmanager.
 
 Each time, after the initial reboot I get an error:
 
 Mounting root from ufs:ad0s1a
 Root mount failed: 6
 Mounting root from ufs:ad0a
 Root mount failed: 6
 
 Manual root filesystem specification:
 fstype:device Mount device using filesystem fstype
 eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a
 ? List valid disk boot devices
 empty line Abort manual input
 
 mountroot 
 
 I tried:
 
 mountroot ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
 
 but that fails too.
 
 
 The disk is a Seagate 120GB and it's actually ad4, not ad0.  If I
 interrupt the boot process at:
 
 FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
 Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
 boot:
 
 and enter:
 
 FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
 Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
 boot: 0:ad(4,a)/kernel
 
 the machine will boot properly.   I've tried two things I found while
 checking on this:
 
 1.  Adding to loader.conf:
 rootdev=disk4s1a
 root_disk_unit=0
 
 2.  Rebuilding the kernel and adding:
 optionsROOTDEVNAME=\ufs:ad4s1a\
 
 
 Neither of which worked.Is there something I'm missing while doing
 the installation?   If I look in  /dev   the devices are there ad4,
 ad4s1, ad4s1a, ad4s1b, etc.
 
 About at wit's end ... any help would be great.
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Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread Matt Emmerton


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 On Friday 06 August 2004 04:58, Brett Glass wrote:
  http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631

 Probably not. Intel isn't going to keep exactly the same architecture as
AMD
 has now. They'll make a few minor ajustments to fine-tune their CPU.

According to the Intel people that I've talked to where I work (a big blue
company that isn't Dell), AMD64 and EM64T are the same on the opcode level.
Thus, code built for AMD64 will work unmodified on EM64T and vice versa.
(It would be silly for Intel to do otherwise, as they don't want to risk
losing any support from the community and market share that AMD has worked
hard to establish.)

While Intel (or AMD) may make changes to the underlying silicon to make
things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different pipeline
architecture, etc), they are committed to maintain compatibility between
AMD64 and EM64T.

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Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread Brett Glass
At 09:06 PM 8/6/2004, Matt Emmerton wrote:
While Intel (or AMD) may make changes to the underlying silicon to make
things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different pipeline
architecture, etc), they are committed to maintain compatibility between
AMD64 and EM64T.
This is good to know. Has anyone tested the AMD64 version of FreeBSD
on one of the Intel Xeons with the new instruction set?
--Brett
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Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread Matt Emmerton
 At 09:06 PM 8/6/2004, Matt Emmerton wrote:

 While Intel (or AMD) may make changes to the underlying silicon to make
 things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different
pipeline
 architecture, etc), they are committed to maintain compatibility between
 AMD64 and EM64T.

 This is good to know. Has anyone tested the AMD64 version of FreeBSD
 on one of the Intel Xeons with the new instruction set?

If you would like to ship me one, I'd gladly test it out for you.  See my
web site for my address.

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Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread Sean Countryman
That, however, is where the similarities end.  The Nocona chip is only 
64bit on the outside, the internals are essentially built on a 32 bit 
legacy system.  The end result is that AMD is pure 64 bit and intel's 
chip just won't keep up when full 64 bit code hits the market.  The new 
code will sing on AMD, but won't run a bit faster on intel's chip.  Even 
Intel has acknowledged their flaws.  The current issue of infoworld 
(http://www.infoworld.com) has the full story on it.


Matt Emmerton wrote:
 

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On Friday 06 August 2004 04:58, Brett Glass wrote:
   

http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631
 

Probably not. Intel isn't going to keep exactly the same architecture as
   

AMD
 

has now. They'll make a few minor ajustments to fine-tune their CPU.
   

According to the Intel people that I've talked to where I work (a big blue
company that isn't Dell), AMD64 and EM64T are the same on the opcode level.
Thus, code built for AMD64 will work unmodified on EM64T and vice versa.
(It would be silly for Intel to do otherwise, as they don't want to risk
losing any support from the community and market share that AMD has worked
hard to establish.)
While Intel (or AMD) may make changes to the underlying silicon to make
things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different pipeline
architecture, etc), they are committed to maintain compatibility between
AMD64 and EM64T.
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Re: Does the AMD64 version of FreeBSD run on this?

2004-08-06 Thread Brett Glass
At 09:18 PM 8/6/2004, Matt Emmerton wrote:

If you would like to ship me one, I'd gladly test it out for you.  

If I had one to ship, *I* would test it. But I need to know PRIOR
to purchase.

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Re: installation of FreeBSD 4.10 on Dell PowerEdge 650 fails after reboot with mountroot

2004-08-06 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Spumonti wrote:
snip
The disk is a Seagate 120GB and it's actually ad4, not ad0.  If I
interrupt the boot process at:
 

FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
 

Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:
and enter:
 

FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
 

Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot: 0:ad(4,a)/kernel
the machine will boot properly.   I've tried two things I found while
checking on this:
1.  Adding to loader.conf:
rootdev=disk4s1a
root_disk_unit=0
2.  Rebuilding the kernel and adding:
optionsROOTDEVNAME=\ufs:ad4s1a\
Neither of which worked.Is there something I'm missing while doing
the installation?   If I look in  /dev   the devices are there ad4,
ad4s1, ad4s1a, ad4s1b, etc.
About at wit's end ... any help would be great.
 

Is this the only disk in the box?  Why is it ad4 instead of ad0?
That's at issue, but maybe it's not as bad as pulling out your hair...
It might be possible to fix it without changing disk numbers
by adding the following to /boot/loader.conf:
   set root_disk_unit=4
   boot /kernel
See loader(8) for details.
That said, I'm no expert on loader(8) et al.  But that's what the
docs say, anyway.
HTH,
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: identifying and fixing server I/O slowdowns

2004-08-06 Thread Uwe Doering
Jeff Kramer wrote:
Oh great and wise FreeBSD gurus,
I've been running FreeBSD boxes for about five years with great results 
(up to 6 at the moment), but recently one of my machines has started to 
seriously act up.  Every time a heavy disk operation (say, tar'ing a 1 
gig directory) occurs the system slows to a crawl, and requests to 
apache/php/mysql sites hosted on it just hang.

The system is a dual p3 1.13ghz box with a gig of ram and mirrored 80 
gig WD800BB drives on a Promise TX2 controller.  The raid isn't 
degraded.  There's a dedicated 1.5 gig swap partition and a swap file on 
the /usr partition.  We had some apache processes go nuts one time, 
which is why I added the swap file.
[...]
This problem could be due to a disk drive that is about to fail.  If 
there are (still recoverable) disk errors, retrying the affected I/O 
operations can keep a disk controller occupied for serveral seconds.  Of 
course, all processes trying to do disk I/O during this time span will 
block.

Since the errors are (eventually) recoverable the raid array is likely 
to _not_ drop into degraded mode by itself.  After you've found out 
which of the disks it is you would have to force that disk into failed 
mode and would then replace it.  The exact details depend on your raid 
controller.

Of course, your mileage may vary, but I've experienced disk failures 
like these several times in the past, with the effect you've described.

   Uwe
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OT: BSDForums registration ..

2004-08-06 Thread Joshua Banks
Has anyone tried to join/register at:
http://www.freebsdforums.org/

I've joined and registered and I'm able to login, but after 24hrs I'm
still unable to create new threads or reply to existing ones. I've
emailed   [EMAIL PROTECTED] without any response. I thought
maybe I was over looking something but I don't think that I am. 

When I try and click on the Registration link in my email I get:
Your account has been activated but you are currently in the
moderation queue to be added to the forum.

Is there a more preferable FreeBSD forum other than the one above?

Thanks,
Joshua Banks




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RE: win32codecs.tar.bz2

2004-08-06 Thread mark rowlands
Cvsup your ports system and try again

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html


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Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 5:02 AM
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Subject: win32codecs.tar.bz2

The MPlayer package requires win32codecs to be installed, but when I
make 
it, it can not find the package and tells me to copy it to 
/usr/ports/distfiles/, however, when I do that, it tells me of an
incorrect 
checksum. I find this odd because I cated the file with the checksums
and 
they look the same (or very similiar, I took a quick snapshot way of
looking 
at it). I do not know what the problem is, could someone help me?

I am running FreeBSD-5.1-Release, upgraded base and ports collection
(it 
also did the same with the original).

Thank you, if you could help me I would be appriciative of it.

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