Re: Wireless NIC in FreeBSD 6.0 ?

2006-01-01 Thread Yuan Jue
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 21:54, Erik Norgaard wrote:
 Yuan Jue wrote:
 It appears you can set some default values:
 
default { [option declaration] [, ... option declaration] }
   If for some set of options the client should use the value sup-
   plied by the server, but needs to use some default value if no
   value was supplied by the server, these values can be defined
   in the default statement.
 
 I would assume that if you set defaults this way, defaults will also
 take place if no lease is obtained at all - at least that would be very
 usefull. Something like this I guess:
 
interface bge0 {
default {
fixed-address your-fixed-ip-here;
subnet-mask your-fixed-subnet-mask-here;
...
}
}
 
  sorry, I still don't quite get what you mean. it seems my default setting
  is this though it is not written in dhclient.conf.
 
  how can I configure the wireless interface to use DHCP in dhclient.conf?
  like as follows?

 The dhclient.conf does not contain any interface configuration values
 unless you write it. dhcp automatically reads dhclient.conf on startup,
 so you just need to enable dhcp for the interfaces you want configured.

 In rc.conf insert

interface_ath0=DHCP
interface_bge0=DHCP

 Create dhclient.conf like this

interface ath0 {
default {
   ... the default configuration for your wireless nic ...
}
}
interface bge0 {
default {
   ... the default configuration for your wired nic ...
}
}

 No need to mention any scripts in dhclient.conf. In the default
 configuration you need to specify at least: ip address, netmask, router
 and nameserver, see dhclient.conf(5) for the names of those variables.

 You only need to create an interface specific section if you need to
 configure the nic with values other than those provided by the dhcp
 server. If your ath0 is always configured with dhcp (as I understood)
 and you are happy with that, no need to make that section in the
 dhclient.conf - or keep it empty.

 Then run

 # /etc/rc.d/netif restart

thanks for your kind suggestions :) it is very useful.

but, in my situation, there are two things needed to mention:
1. normally the wireless NIC is not in the kernel when system boots, so 
no need to if_ath0=DHCP every time

2. usually I use my laptop in dormitory with a static IP address. so no
need to if_bge0=DHCP every time

finally, I figure out that ifconfig bge0 delete before I wanna use the
wireless NIC would sound better for me :)


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Yuan Jue
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The FreeBSD Diary: 2005-12-11 - 2005-12-31

2006-01-01 Thread Dan Langille
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know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list 
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and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. 

These are the articles posted during this period:

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 http://freebsddiary.org/freebsd-6.0-disk-timings.php?2

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 The first step in cross-compiling
 http://freebsddiary.org/freebsd-6.0-rc1.php?2

22-Dec : Configuring IPsec on your XP Professional laptop
 You've done your FreeBSD, now do your XP 
 http://freebsddiary.org/ipsec-wireless-xp.php?2


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Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2006-01-01 Thread Michael Vince

Yance Kowara wrote:


Hi all,

I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve this:

I have two DSL connections to play with, and I would
like to configure a *BSD router that can combine the
two DSLs together.

There is a howto at
http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/000173.php

But it concerns OpenBSD and it was for a T1 connection
using a dual T1 card. I would like to configure one on
2 DSLs connected to two individual NICs.

Is this feasible at all, or should I just invest in a
dual Wan hardware?

 

Yes its possible, I have such done such a setup. Its actually one ADSL 
user PPP connection the other connection is direct Ethernet to a small 
ISP that happens to be in the same building.


The aim isn't anything that serves data and doesn't use anything complex 
such as using routing protocols like the other guys are talking about. 
Its just using NAT via PF to its users behind the box, all they need 24 
hour Internet access and don't have to serve anything which I assume is 
your same situation.


All I have done to make use of the multi Internet connection was if one 
connection goes down they can just choose the other ISP via a simple 
menu I created for them which just deletes and changes the route,


Just uses something like
route flush
route add default isp_gateway_ip
Or for the PPP link that uses ISP1 profile
/usr/sbin/ppp -quiet -ddial isp1

and a /etc/rc.d/pf resync afterwards.


Its just as easy to hack your own self monitoring link changer script 
but I felt it was better to leave it in the hands of the people with a menu.
The core of the problem is just scripting something to change routes / 
connection using scripting.


Because you appear to be using to DSL and probably pppoe links you would 
need to put something like this with two profiles in your 
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf file


default:
# set log CBCP CCP Chat Connect Command IPCP tun Phase Warning Debug LCP 
sync

set device PPPoE:dc0:isp1
set speed sync
disable ipv6cp
set cd 5
set dial
set login
set redial 0 0
add default HISADDR
set timeout 0
enable dns

isp1:
set authname [EMAIL PROTECTED]
set authkey yancepassword

isp2:
set authname [EMAIL PROTECTED]
set authkey yancepassword

and script something to run either /usr/sbin/ppp -quiet -ddial isp1 or 
/usr/sbin/ppp -quiet -ddial isp2


Mike


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Re: amsn-095_1

2006-01-01 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 01 Jan Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:
 actually it is
 make install clean
 -jahan

It may be because you top-posted, but in my case I could not use make
install clean That way I wouldn't have been able to manualy move the
webcam directory, wouldn't I.
Not been installed and deleted in the 'cleaning' action ;-)

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Re: 6.0-REL ports/emulators/qemu = PANIC

2006-01-01 Thread guru
El día Saturday, December 31, 2005 a las 12:26:43PM -0800, Kent Stewart 
escribió:

  yes, it can be reproduced; I've fresh installed 6.0-RELEASE and did
  only:
 
  # cd /usr/ports/emulators/qemu
  # make WITH_KQEMU=yes
  # make install
  # kldload kqemu
  # kldstat
  # su - user
 
  PANIC :-((
 
 
 Does it still panic if you don't load kqemu? Test with just the new 
 install and see if it panics. I haven't had a panic with 6.0 except 
 that I have problems at boot on machines using the Netgear GA 311 
 1000baseT NIC. I get some message about loop back failed and it panics. 
 If I shutdown, I don't have any problem. 

at 7 a clock in the evening last year I launched the 'make install'
in /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and when I came in in the morning of this year at
around 8 o'clock the notebook received me with the root shell prompt
saying that the registering of kde3 was done; all without any PANIC
and without this clash between neon and subversion which encountered
the last time; so this must have been the result of some of the
PANIC last Friday when I was already playing around with the sound
driver and with kqemu while the make of KDE was still under progress;

since 6 hours I'm now scp'ing my HOME from the old notebook to the
new, all without PANIC so far; falta poco, unos 3 giga; I'm already
writing the message from the new notebook;

later I will test the sound driver and will see what I can do with qemu;
yesterday I also gave 6.0-STABLE a short test (I fetched the snapshot
of December) but trying to compile a the newer port of qemu wanted me
to fetch a lot newer distfiles and I could not do that from here at home;

Espero que hayas disfrutado tu música latina por la noche;

matthias


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webcam

2006-01-01 Thread dick hoogendijk
OK, maybe it's OT, but I try it anyway. After all, I looked through the
support dox for 6.o release and found not much about my question.

I want to buy a new webcam device. I want it to be clear and sharp. So
it may cost a little more then the all-to-cheap ones (but not too
much ;-) Plus it needs to be supported by FreeBSD-6

Any suggestions from happy users?

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Re: ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules

2006-01-01 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote perikillo thusly...

 root#chmod +x /etc/rc.d/ipnat.rules

Why did you need to add execute bit for the rules?


  - Parv

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6.0-STABLE slower than 6.0-RELEASE?

2006-01-01 Thread Dan Langille
For what reasons might 6.0-STABLE slower than 6.0-RELEASE?  I don't 
think it's debug code.  Under 6.0-STABLE, I'm using the GENERIC 
kernel, and have changed only the ident value.

I'm testing the speed of this command:

time psql freshports.org  freshports.sql

The average time under 6.0-RELEASE: 9m 5s
Under 6.0-STABLE: 10m 41s

That is quite a difference.  a few seconds I could understand, but 
not a difference of nearly 17% longer

Suggestions?  Ideas?
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what is with the instalation?! :(

2006-01-01 Thread artek j

i have problem with instalation to point 2.8 ,
when should start the instalation explode error : Undable to find /dev/ad2s3b 
in/dev abort instalation

undable to create file system instalation aborted

i have 3 partitions
c:fat32 for windows  primary
d:fat32 for warning files  logical
unused - thist part of disk is reserved for FreeBSD , i create FreeBSD 
partition with manual and al is ok to the moment when explode me error - 
couldn't to create file system

please help me

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Re: what is with the instalation?! :(

2006-01-01 Thread Chris
artek j wrote:
 i have problem with instalation to point 2.8 ,
 when should start the instalation explode error : Undable to find /dev/ad2s3b 
 in/dev abort instalation

Are we to understand, FreeBSD 2.8? If so, that is seriously outdated.

 undable to create file system instalation aborted
 
 i have 3 partitions
 c:fat32 for windows  primary
 d:fat32 for warning files  logical
 unused - thist part of disk is reserved for FreeBSD , i create FreeBSD 
 partition with manual and al is ok to the moment when explode me error - 
 couldn't to create file system
 
 please help me
 
 arthur jakobik


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KDE 3.5 install probs (FBSD 5.4)

2006-01-01 Thread nospam
I've been trying to install the newer release of KDE on my 5.4 system with
no luck. Here are some attempts:

1. Download kdebase-3.5.0 tarball, run ./configure (for starters):

[laptop]/home/laptop/KDE/kdebase/kdebase-3.5.0(40): ./configure
checking build system type... i386-unknown-freebsd5.4
checking host system type... i386-unknown-freebsd5.4
checking target system type... i386-unknown-freebsd5.4
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking for -p flag to install... yes
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... no
checking for nawk... nawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for kde-config... not found
configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.

...I couldn't find a tarball or anything else looking like kde-config to
install.

2. Use konstruct:

Download the sources, untar them. They are supposed to play like FBSD
ports; cd into some directory and type make install. There is a meta
directory; here's what happens there:

[laptop]/home/laptop/KDE/konstruct/meta(48): make install
../category.mk, line 13: Need an operator
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

3. Some other attempt wth konstruct; cd into the kdebase subdirectory and
do a make install there:

[laptop]/home/laptop/KDE/konstruct/kde/kdebase(54): make install
../../gar.conf.mk, line 38: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 54: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 64: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 100: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 108: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 116: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 134: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 135: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 136: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 137: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 138: Need an operator
../../gar.conf.mk, line 139: Need an operator
../../gar.lib.mk, line 272: Need an operator
../../gar.lib.mk, line 274: Need an operator
../../gar.lib.mk, line 277: Need an operator
../../gar.lib.mk, line 288: Need an operator
../../color.mk, line 19: Missing dependency operator
../../color.mk, line 62: Need an operator
../../gar.mk, line 65: Need an operator
../../gar.mk, line 67: Need an operator
../../gar.mk, line 69: Need an operator
Error expanding embedded variable.

I didn't play with the gar.conf.mk file; it looked like it was supposed to
run okay the way it was. I probably do not understand what they're doing
with the gar.conf.mk files.

cheers  happy new year -
-- paz.







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Re: KDE 3.5 install probs (FBSD 5.4)

2006-01-01 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Sunday 01 January 2006 10:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been trying to install the newer release of KDE on my 5.4 system with
 no luck. Here are some attempts:

 1. Download kdebase-3.5.0 tarball, run ./configure (for starters):

 [laptop]/home/laptop/KDE/kdebase/kdebase-3.5.0(40): ./configure
 checking build system type... i386-unknown-freebsd5.4
 checking host system type... i386-unknown-freebsd5.4
 checking target system type... i386-unknown-freebsd5.4
 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
 checking for -p flag to install... yes
 checking whether build environment is sane... yes
 checking for gawk... no
 checking for mawk... no
 checking for nawk... nawk
 checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
 checking for kde-config... not found
 configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
 Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.

 ...I couldn't find a tarball or anything else looking like kde-config to
 install.

 2. Use konstruct:

 Download the sources, untar them. They are supposed to play like FBSD
 ports; cd into some directory and type make install. There is a meta
 directory; here's what happens there:

 [laptop]/home/laptop/KDE/konstruct/meta(48): make install
 ../category.mk, line 13: Need an operator
 make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

 3. Some other attempt wth konstruct; cd into the kdebase subdirectory and
 do a make install there:

 [laptop]/home/laptop/KDE/konstruct/kde/kdebase(54): make install
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 38: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 54: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 64: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 100: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 108: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 116: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 134: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 135: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 136: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 137: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 138: Need an operator
 ../../gar.conf.mk, line 139: Need an operator
 ../../gar.lib.mk, line 272: Need an operator
 ../../gar.lib.mk, line 274: Need an operator
 ../../gar.lib.mk, line 277: Need an operator
 ../../gar.lib.mk, line 288: Need an operator
 ../../color.mk, line 19: Missing dependency operator
 ../../color.mk, line 62: Need an operator
 ../../gar.mk, line 65: Need an operator
 ../../gar.mk, line 67: Need an operator
 ../../gar.mk, line 69: Need an operator
 Error expanding embedded variable.

 I didn't play with the gar.conf.mk file; it looked like it was supposed to
 run okay the way it was. I probably do not understand what they're doing
 with the gar.conf.mk files.

 cheers  happy new year -
 -- paz.

There is a perfectly good version of KDE in the ports tree, why do this?

-Mike
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Re: Load Balancing: How Busy are the servers?

2006-01-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier


For all the technology, I was kinda hoping for some 'scientific formula' 
:)


Now, I really hate to ask, but how do you use vmstat to get a feel for how 
busy the disk subsystem is?  What are you looking for?


On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, Francisco Reyes wrote:


Marc G. Fournier writes:

1. What variables on a server should be monitored to determine how busy a 
server is? 


I am a fairly new sysadmin.. who inheritted nearly 20 machines, so take my 
comments with a gain of salt. Before that the most I ever had was 7, mostly 
DB, FreeBSD machines :-) .. and.. Hi Marc. :)


I think it comes down to primarily 3 factors
* RAM
* CPU
* DISK

If you are hitting Swap, you are either running too many programs/services or 
too many users.


Same for CPU

Disk are different in that the same number of disks can perform different 
based on what raid controller and what type of RAID.


I use top and load average to determine if a machine is up to capacity in 
memory/cpu.


I use vmstat to determine if the disk subsystem is falling behind.

BIG NOTE: The one thing that I have yet to really pay much attention is the 
network performance. Fortunately we just hired someone who has significantly 
more experience on that area. :-)



2. Are there any tools that I can run to give me a point in time summary 
of how busy a server is based on these several factors?


I think there are lots of tools. Some vary from SNMP capture/graphing, to 
custom made tools done in-house. I think it's a combination of how difficult 
it is to setup vs what you need to monitor. 
At work we are just starting to roll out an SNMP tool. The new hire is 
leading the effort so I am not very familiar with the setups.. the one thing 
I see so far is that ultimately, there usually are things that one needs to 
monitor that is unique to your organization and you need to either integrate 
a program into the tool or do your own independant monitoring of that 
particular resource.


I think the ISP list may be a good resource since the needs of the average 
user are different from ISPs/companies with numerous machines. 
Basically, I'd like to keep track of multiple servers and be able to say 
this server is running 75% of capacity, time to upgrade or move things 
off of it ... if its possible ... ?


In my opinion, for the most part, the answer is yes. The problem is usually 
how long it's going to take you to setup the environment to monitor the 
servers.


The program we went with was chosen because the new hire was familiar with 
it, but a search on the archives for monitoring tools will give you a long 
list of programs and opinions of which are easier.


If I had the time, I think I would likely write my own tool. This way I will 
be able to measure exactly what I want. Right now I thik we will cover most 
basics with the tool we are going with, but will need to still do our own 
custom apps to monitor a number of resources and metrics.







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Re: RE: How to convert BIND to TinyDNS?

2006-01-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Dec 31, 2005, James Long wrote:
 Message: 9
 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:42:50 +0100
 From: Kristian Vaaf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: RE: How to convert BIND to TinyDNS?
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 You got some messed up spaces, or maybe it's me?
 
 Anyway. I totally agree to what you're saying. I am running BIND
 myself and I am not changing. But this person who manages my
 upcoming NS2, he is the one running TinyDNS, and he is among
 the smartest software developers I know of, so his reason to use
 TinyDNS is not to be questioned.
 
 Thank you.

If we can't question his reasons, how about his ability?

If one of the smartest software developers you know doesn't know how 
to do a zone transfer and write a shell script to massage the text 
file into whatever form the software of his choice requires, then I 
think you need to get out and meet more software develpers.

It doesn't require a lot of skill to read the djbdns documentation to learn
how to use the tcpclient program to do zone transfers from any
authoritative name server that allows the transfers.  This will do a zone
transfer for example.com creating the tinydns data file.

tcpclient $server domain axfr-get example.com data data.tmp

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What's using my system?

2006-01-01 Thread Kirk Strauser
I'm staring at top running on my 6.0-STABLE system.  It's my desktop
machine, and also serves a light web/mail load (including a few jails).
Basically, the system should be idle about 99% of the time when I'm not
actively doing something on it.  And yet it's not.

The CPU never gets above about 75% idle, but top never shows any processes
doing much of anything.  The last pid field only rarely increases, so I'm
relatively sure there's no processing forking off children that die too
quickly for top to notice them.

So, what could be using my CPU?  And other than top and tailing various
logfiles, what tools could help me find out?

Example top output:


last pid: 72475;  load averages:  0.26,  0.80,  1.69
  up 28+21:59:16  13:26:30
214 processes: 4 running, 210 sleeping
CPU states: 14.7% user,  0.0% nice, 10.5% system,  3.9% interrupt, 70.9% idle
Mem: 752M Active, 186M Inact, 219M Wired, 63M Cache, 112M Buf, 23M Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 161M Used, 3934M Free, 3% Inuse

  PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
61660 root   1  960 89288K 74624K select  37:50  1.71% Xorg
61791 kirk   1  960 34704K 25600K select  12:17  1.12% kdeinit
61822 kirk   1  960 40616K 28980K select  14:55  1.03% kdeinit
68111 kirk   1  960 33584K 23292K select   0:16  0.15% kdeinit
 1525 ldap   3  200   134M  7136K kserel  80:59  0.00% slapd
61811 kirk   3  20  -76 16516K 10860K kserel  76:40  0.00% artsd
 1442 mysql  5  200 59576K  2752K kserel  44:14  0.00% mysqld
 1449 nagios 3  200  3900K  1228K kserel  37:36  0.00% nagios
61864 kirk   3  960 78260K 61128K RUN 25:34  0.00% amarokapp
83630 bind   1   40 12024K  8704K select  14:49  0.00% named
 1400 mailman1   80  8828K  2716K nanslp  14:15  0.00% python2.3
 1403 mailman1   80  8532K  4088K nanslp  13:35  0.00% python2.3
 1397 mailman1   80  9016K  2700K nanslp  12:47  0.00% python2.3
 1398 mailman1   80  8792K  5216K nanslp  12:26  0.00% python2.3

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Re: KDE 3.5 install probs (FBSD 5.4)

2006-01-01 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Sunday 01 January 2006 12:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Download the sources, untar them. They are supposed to play like FBSD
 ports; cd into some directory and type make install. There is a meta
 directory; here's what happens there:

Seems like there's a pretty high probability that KDE expects GNU make instead 
of BSD.  That's the first thing I'd try.
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Re: KDE 3.5 install probs (FBSD 5.4)

2006-01-01 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Sunday 01 January 2006 12:51 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote:

 There is a perfectly good version of KDE in the ports tree, why do this?

In his defense, that's only true if you consider the perfectly good version 
to be the one released last March, rather than the one released just over a 
month ago.

Still, as much as I want to play with 3.5, I'll wait until the ports come 
along.  People much better at building it than I am are having problems, so 
there's not much point in me trying it.
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Re: KDE 3.5 install probs (FBSD 5.4)

2006-01-01 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 01 January 2006 11:40 am, Kirk Strauser wrote:
 On Sunday 01 January 2006 12:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Download the sources, untar them. They are supposed to play like
  FBSD ports; cd into some directory and type make install. There is
  a meta directory; here's what happens there:

 Seems like there's a pretty high probability that KDE expects GNU
 make instead of BSD.  That's the first thing I'd try.

On the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, there have been discussions of 3.5. You 
would have to check the archives but what I remember is that there have 
been so many problems getting 3.5 to work on FreeBSD that they are 
waiting for 3.5.1.

Kent

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Re: KDE 3.5 install probs (FBSD 5.4)

2006-01-01 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Sunday 01 January 2006 11:43, Kirk Strauser wrote:
 On Sunday 01 January 2006 12:51 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  There is a perfectly good version of KDE in the ports tree, why do this?

 In his defense, that's only true if you consider the perfectly good
 version to be the one released last March, rather than the one released
 just over a month ago.

 Still, as much as I want to play with 3.5, I'll wait until the ports come
 along.  People much better at building it than I am are having problems, so
 there's not much point in me trying it.

I understand impatience when a new version comes out and it isn't in the
port's tree right away, but in the maintainer's defense:  I remember just
over a year ago when KDE used to crash rather regularly, now it is very
stable, he is doing a great job at maintaining that very complex set of ports 
and deserves all of our patience and support. :)

-Mike

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Re: KDE 3.5 install probs (FBSD 5.4)

2006-01-01 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Sunday 01 January 2006 01:57 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote:

 I understand impatience when a new version comes out and it isn't in the
 port's tree right away, but in the maintainer's defense:  I remember just
 over a year ago when KDE used to crash rather regularly, now it is very
 stable, he is doing a great job at maintaining that very complex set of
 ports and deserves all of our patience and support. :)

Oh, I agree entirely.  I know that the lag is due to the complexity of the 
problem, and not the maintainers slacking off.
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Re: Load Balancing: How Busy are the servers?

2006-01-01 Thread Francisco Reyes

Marc G. Fournier writes:

For all the technology, I was kinda hoping for some 'scientific formula' 
:)


There are..

Now, I really hate to ask, but how do you use vmstat to get a feel for how 
busy the disk subsystem is?


For me, reading Absolute BSD by Michael Lucas was very helpfull.
In particular Chapter 18, System performance.

The three columns I look at are for vmstat r and b on the left, and  
fault.


r shows how many processes are waiting for CPU, b shows how many 
processes are waiting for disk. The fault column(s) show how badly your 
system is accesing swap.


Quick example:
r b w
2 5 0
1 5 0
2 4 0
2 5 0
3 4 0
1 5 0
1 5 0


That's from my home machine as I am doing some backups.
The machine at this point is more disk bound than CPU bound with 4 to 5 disk 
operations at any point in time waiting for disk access


I am also falling behind in CPU, but not as bad.

On the far right of vmsat you also have CPU stats.. in my case the vmstat 
from the above lines showed 70% to 90% iddle which confirmed I was disk 
bound at that point. 

The fault column show you how actively you are using swap. The lines 
above had between 30 and 200 approximately. If you look at swapinfo and you 
have a large amount of swap in use and then you see a high number in vmstat 
for fault, the machine is short on RAM for the load you have on it.


So far in my experience nothing hurts a machine as badly as hitting swap 
(given that you have adequate CPU/disks). Once you start to hit swap heavily 
you need to do something (if you can...) such as moving services to another 
machine or putting in more memory.


Instead of looking for fixed number I think that relative figures are more 
important.. like looking at your machines at their lowest usage and then at 
their busiest.. or at spikes.. If at slow times of activity the machines are 
already falling behind on b, r on vmstat.. then that machine is 
overloaded.


One possible quick way to start benchmarking your machines, until you can do 
something better is to capture snapshots of vmstat every 15 to 30 minutes 
and take a look.. perhaps even write a short script to summarize it. On my 
list of things to do.. is to do a simple setup of that nature.. just because 
it would be easy to setup and can provide very valuable information until 
you setup something more feature rich. 



top in 5.X branch and up is also very userfull. If you hit m it shows 
you disk processes so you can see what programs are doing the most I/O.


One thing to watch out for in top when using 'm' is if you see all low 
numbers ( hit 'o' to sort and then type 'total').. is that you may have lots 
of programs doing little I/O, but their combined load is a problem for your 
disk subsystem like having 200+ IMAP connections. Each single IMAP 
connection may not be doing more than a handfull of transactions per second, 
but all of them combined can give a disk subsystem a pretty good workout.


The load averages from 'w' are also good figures to do comparative tests. I 
started to wokr on a script (but needs more work) that dumps 'w' and 
'vmstat' .. next have to work on parsing them and giving summaries. In 
particular one wants to know peak times.. since that is the best time to 
determine if the machine can handle it's load.. and more importantly spikes. 
If a machine is usually under 2.. and it spikes at 5+.. that machine is 
possibly able to do normal loads, but may not be able to handle spikes in 
traffic (ie a customer doing  a mailing list, or a site just got press.. and 
there are a larger number than usual of people going to their URL).


I still thinkg I have MUCH, MUCH to learn.. but I would be glad to expand on 
anything mentioned above.. or anything else. Ultimately each machine/company 
is unique enough that absolute numbers from other people (ie what is a good 
value for 'r' and 'b' to be around most of the time) may be less important 
than learning what are the different figures for your different machines 
under normal operation.

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Re: KDE 3.5 install probs (FBSD 5.4)

2006-01-01 Thread RW
On Sunday 01 January 2006 20:09, Kirk Strauser wrote:
 On Sunday 01 January 2006 01:57 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  I understand impatience when a new version comes out and it isn't in the
  port's tree right away, but in the maintainer's defense:  I remember just
  over a year ago when KDE used to crash rather regularly, now it is very
  stable, he is doing a great job at maintaining that very complex set of
  ports and deserves all of our patience and support. :)

 Oh, I agree entirely.  I know that the lag is due to the complexity of the
 problem, and not the maintainers slacking off.

I don't think it's the complexity as such.

I read somewhere that it's entry into ports was initially delayed by illness, 
but since then 3.5 has been found to be quite buggy. 
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Re: Hardware graphics

2006-01-01 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Friday 30 December 2005 05:44, Jon wrote:
 I need some help getting hardware graphics going. I
 built radeon.ko and drm.ko from drm cvs and loaded
 them, a quick dmesg drm says the modules are loaded.
 (drm 1.21.0 20051229) I was told on here I would need
 the r300 DRI module for my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro which I
 got from the FreeBSD Ports 'dri-6.2.20050719,1', that
 built and installed r300_dri.so. I'm using
 radeon_drv.o in my Xorg.conf file as the display
 driver, I had a look at my Xorg.conf Log file and it
 says:
 (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering not yet supported on
 Radeon 9500 and newer
 (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration unsupported on
 Radeon 9500/9700 and newer.
 (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled

 What else could be the problem?

You probably need a more recent version of the xorg server. Try the 
x11-servers/xorg-server-snap port.
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Re: What's using my system?

2006-01-01 Thread Chris
Kirk Strauser wrote:
 I'm staring at top running on my 6.0-STABLE system.  It's my desktop
 machine, and also serves a light web/mail load (including a few jails).
 Basically, the system should be idle about 99% of the time when I'm not
 actively doing something on it.  And yet it's not.
 
 The CPU never gets above about 75% idle, but top never shows any processes
 doing much of anything.  The last pid field only rarely increases, so I'm
 relatively sure there's no processing forking off children that die too
 quickly for top to notice them.
 
 So, what could be using my CPU?  And other than top and tailing various
 logfiles, what tools could help me find out?
 
 Example top output:
 
 
 last pid: 72475;  load averages:  0.26,  0.80,  1.69  
 up 28+21:59:16  13:26:30
 214 processes: 4 running, 210 sleeping
 CPU states: 14.7% user,  0.0% nice, 10.5% system,  3.9% interrupt, 70.9% idle
 Mem: 752M Active, 186M Inact, 219M Wired, 63M Cache, 112M Buf, 23M Free
 Swap: 4096M Total, 161M Used, 3934M Free, 3% Inuse
 
   PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 61660 root   1  960 89288K 74624K select  37:50  1.71% Xorg
 61791 kirk   1  960 34704K 25600K select  12:17  1.12% kdeinit
 61822 kirk   1  960 40616K 28980K select  14:55  1.03% kdeinit
 68111 kirk   1  960 33584K 23292K select   0:16  0.15% kdeinit
  1525 ldap   3  200   134M  7136K kserel  80:59  0.00% slapd
 61811 kirk   3  20  -76 16516K 10860K kserel  76:40  0.00% artsd
  1442 mysql  5  200 59576K  2752K kserel  44:14  0.00% mysqld
  1449 nagios 3  200  3900K  1228K kserel  37:36  0.00% nagios
 61864 kirk   3  960 78260K 61128K RUN 25:34  0.00% 
 amarokapp
 83630 bind   1   40 12024K  8704K select  14:49  0.00% named
  1400 mailman1   80  8828K  2716K nanslp  14:15  0.00% 
 python2.3
  1403 mailman1   80  8532K  4088K nanslp  13:35  0.00% 
 python2.3
  1397 mailman1   80  9016K  2700K nanslp  12:47  0.00% 
 python2.3
  1398 mailman1   80  8792K  5216K nanslp  12:26  0.00% 
 python2.3
 

Try this:

top -S -n 50

man top is helpful

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STressing a new server...

2006-01-01 Thread Gary Kline
Folks,

When I bought this bare-bones box and plugged in stuff
it took several days of figuring out what benchmark and 
other utilities to run to stress it.  After a few weeks of 
pushing the load to 70+, the burning-in was a fair indicator 
that the HW would last.  After 4+ years, no prob.  Now I
have a new box, custom built.  

Unfortunately, I've lost (or forgotten!) the same of the
*.sh script and some of the utilities.  So what should I
be running and with an example of args?  Last time I believe
there were 5 or 6 stressors.  

Also, what's the memory testor utility calld?  I have 
a gig of DDR in this new puppy, and want to be sure that 
every last BIT is good.

Help much appreciated!

gary



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Re[2]: Newbie problems with svscan and arp

2006-01-01 Thread Playnet
Hello Odhiambo,

Friday, December 16, 2005, 7:28:53 PM, you wrote:

OW RTFM for qmail, I guess. I only know about Exim - http://www.exim.org ;)
qmail -- http://cr.yp.to

Have you use exim?

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6.0 server

2006-01-01 Thread RJ
 I thaught it would be a good idea to setup a 6.0 server and test it out. Now I 
have a major headache and need some help.

 Setup:
 FreeBsd 6.0 fresh install, cvsup, make buildworld .. etc:
portsnap fetch, extract:
mysql41-server:
apache13:
php4: (all from ports)

 Apache starts and I get the default apache page. Made a page with ? 
phpinfo(): ? and tested, no problems. Made a page with:  ?php
mysql_connect(localhost, user, password) or die(mysql_error());
echo Connected to MySQLbr /;
?  
 When I navigate to the above page it's blank, chmod 777 and still blank.

 Shutdown Mysql and Restart:
  mysqladmin -u root -ppassword shutdown
restart using:
/usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe -l --log-error --user=mysql 

sockstat verifies mysql is on 3306 and /tmp/mysql.sock 

   The page is still blank and after refreshing 3 time and cleaning the 
browser and the logs file don't show a connect or error. Flushed logs and 
checked. 

   Apache file doesn't show any errors and display errors is turned on in 
php.ini.

Mysql was installed using, mysql_install_db, chown -R mysql:mysql 
/var/db/mysql/   

 Where do I look now or, does anyone know what needs to be done?

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disabling my mouse nipple

2006-01-01 Thread Jason Dusek
i'm using a dell d600 with 6.0-STABLE and Xorg on it. my mouse nipple
is crazy|damaged: sometimes when i type keys next to it - 't', 'y',
'f', 'g', 'h', 'j', 'v', 'b', 'n' - the mouse pointer goes zooming
across the screen, usually to the left.

i don't know anything about the underlying hardware or drivers, so i
would like to disable the mouse nipple at startup until i make time to
consult a professional.

i also have a touchpad, but i can't figure out which device is the
touchpad and which is the mouse nipple - my dmesg only lists one
device as a mouse.

## dmesg

Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Thu Dec 15 12:48:16 PST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JSN
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz (1495.15-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x695  Stepping = 5
  
Features=0xa7e9f9bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x180EST,TM2
real memory  = 536535040 (511 MB)
avail memory = 515682304 (491 MB)
npx0: [FAST]
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: DELL CPi R   on motherboard
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu0
acpi_acad0: AC Adapter on acpi0
battery0: ACPI Control Method Battery on acpi0
battery1: ACPI Control Method Battery on acpi0
acpi_lid0: Control Method Lid Switch on acpi0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
acpi_button1: Sleep Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci_link1: BIOS IRQ 11 for 0.31.INTB is invalid
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82855 host to AGP bridge mem 0xe000-0xe7ff at
device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
drm0: ATI Radeon Lf R250 Mobility 9000 M9 port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem
0xe800-0xefff,0xfcff-0xfcff irq 11 at device 0.0 on
pci1
info: [drm] AGP at 0xe000 128MB
info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.19.0 20050911
uhci0: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-A port 0xbf80-0xbf9f
irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-B port 0xbf40-0xbf5f
irq 11 at device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-C port 0xbf20-0xbf3f
irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-C on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4) USB 2.0 controller mem
0xf4fffc00-0xf4ff irq 11 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb3: EHCI version 1.0
usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2
usb3: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4) USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
usb3: USB revision 2.0
uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci_link1: BIOS IRQ 11 for 2.3.INTA is invalid
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
pci2: bridge, PCI-CardBus at device 1.0 (no driver attached)
pci2: bridge, PCI-CardBus at device 1.1 (no driver attached)
ndis0: Dell TrueMobile 1300 WLAN Mini-PCI Card mem
0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 9 at device 3.0 on pci2
ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.0
ndis0: Ethernet address: 00:90:96:b9:95:64
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel ICH4 UDMA100 controller port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xbfa0-0xbfaf at device 31.1 on
pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
pcm0: Intel ICH4 (82801DB) port 0xb800-0xb8ff,0xbc40-0xbc7f mem
0xf4fff800-0xf4fff9ff,0xf4fff400-0xf4fff4ff irq 9 at device 31.5 on
pci0
pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
pcm0: SigmaTel STAC9750/51 AC97 Codec
acpi_tz0: Thermal Zone on acpi0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0
sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
ppc0: ECP parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7
drq 1 on acpi0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE 

Re: STressing a new server...

2006-01-01 Thread Tofik Suleymanov

Gary Kline wrote:


Folks,

When I bought this bare-bones box and plugged in stuff
	it took several days of figuring out what benchmark and 
	other utilities to run to stress it.  After a few weeks of 
	pushing the load to 70+, the burning-in was a fair indicator 
	that the HW would last.  After 4+ years, no prob.  Now I
	have a new box, custom built.  


Unfortunately, I've lost (or forgotten!) the same of the
*.sh script and some of the utilities.  So what should I
be running and with an example of args?  Last time I believe
	there were 5 or 6 stressors.  

	Also, what's the memory testor utility calld?  I have 
	a gig of DDR in this new puppy, and want to be sure that 
	every last BIT is good.


Help much appreciated!

gary



 


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Free BSD install tutorial I wrote

2006-01-01 Thread Allen
I wrote this quite a while ago and I've posted it to the docs list before and 
it got a good repsonce, but I've seen a couple install questions on here so 
I'm going to link to it again for this list. I don't think there is an easier 
to follow installer help anywhere. Not arrogance, but I did do very well with 
it in making it easy as crap to install:

http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=threadid=259335

You don't have to sign up to read this.

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Re: What's using my system?

2006-01-01 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Sunday 01 January 2006 03:19 pm, Chris wrote:

 Try this:

 top -S -n 50

Here it is.  Note that the WCPU fields don't come anywhere near adding up
to the missing 42% (100 - ~58%).  Also, the change in last pid is only
about 13000 over the course of 11000 seconds, and that included a Google
spider run a couple of hours ago; the median number of forks-per-second is
much less than 1.



last pid: 85931;  load averages:  1.29,  0.95,  0.78  up 29+01:08:1316:35:27
306 processes: 5 running, 277 sleeping, 23 waiting, 1 lock

Mem: 872M Active, 88M Inact, 222M Wired, 45M Cache, 112M Buf, 17M Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 205M Used, 3891M Free, 4% Inuse


  PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
   11 root   1 171   52 0K 8K RUN523.5H 57.86% idle
73955 root   1  980   162M   144M RUN 12:21  7.57% Xorg
74153 kirk   1  960   113M   103M select   5:29  4.30% kdeinit
74061 kirk   1  960 40176K 27380K select   3:11  0.93% kdeinit
74030 kirk   1  960 34724K 25496K select   2:57  0.10% kdeinit
   22 root   1 -80 -199 0K 8K WAIT   198:48  0.00% irq11: 
nvidia0 sym0
   46 root   1  -8 -127 0K 8K pgzero 130:16  0.00% pagezero
   16 root   1 -80 -199 0K 8K WAIT   109:42  0.00% irq5: 
pcm0
   27 root   1 -32 -151 0K 8K *Giant  98:53  0.00% swi4: 
clock sio
   48 root   1  200 0K 8K syncer  83:28  0.00% syncer
 1525 ldap   3  200   134M  7336K kserel  81:22  0.00% slapd
   29 root   1 -44 -163 0K 8K WAIT52:01  0.00% swi1: net
 1442 mysql  5  200 59576K  2628K kserel  44:26  0.00% mysqld
3 root   1  -80 0K 8K -   43:34  0.00% g_up
 1449 nagios 3  200  3900K  1228K kserel  37:46  0.00% nagios
4 root   1  -80 0K 8K -   32:28  0.00% g_down
   20 root   1 -68 -187 0K 8K WAIT21:12  0.00% irq9: 
fxp0 uhci0++
83630 bind   1  960 12024K  8868K select  14:57  0.00% named
 1400 mailman1   80  8828K  2696K nanslp  14:19  0.00% python2.3
 1403 mailman1   80  8532K  2712K nanslp  13:38  0.00% python2.3
   54 root   1 -400 0K 8K -   12:55  0.00% schedcpu
   30 root   1 -160 0K 8K -   12:52  0.00% yarrow
   21 root   1 -64 -183 0K 8K WAIT12:51  0.00% irq10: 
atapci1
 1397 mailman1   80  9016K  2676K nanslp  12:50  0.00% python2.3
 1398 mailman1   80  8792K  5136K nanslp  12:31  0.00% python2.3
 1401 mailman1   80  8360K  2276K nanslp  12:27  0.00% python2.3
 1402 mailman1   80  8996K  4820K nanslp  12:26  0.00% python2.3
13895 daapd  1   40  4592K  1996K select  12:15  0.00% mt-daapd
 1399 mailman1   80  8348K  2260K nanslp  12:03  0.00% python2.3
74151 kirk   5  200 85764K 71868K kserel   9:46  0.00% kontact
59092 jabber 1  960 10104K  3648K select   9:28  0.00% jabberd
 1567 squid  1  960 28580K  5588K select   7:41  0.00% squid
20522 root   1   40  3196K  1444K select   6:56  0.00% syslogd
  598 root   1  960  3832K  1688K select   6:43  0.00% ntpd
44916 root   1   40  4760K  1604K select   6:39  0.00% master
   41 root   1  -80 0K 8K m:w2 4:52  0.00% g_mirror 
usr
80973   1200 4  20   10   425M 87884K kserel   4:30  0.00% java
   42 root   1  -80 0K 8K m:w1 4:24  0.00% g_mirror 
var
  530 root   1   40  1300K   604K -3:47  0.00% nfsd
2 root   1  -80 0K 8K -3:41  0.00% g_event
69511 kirk   1   40  3260K   884K select   3:31  0.00% gpg-agent
 1549 root   1   40  7016K  2048K select   3:18  0.00% snmpd
   23 root   1 -60 -179 0K 8K WAIT 2:59  0.00% irq12: 
psm0
 1705 root   1  -80  4144K  2332K piperd   2:54  0.00% perl5.8.7
 1295 clamav 3  200 17108K 13448K kserel   2:29  0.00% clamd
   25 root   1 -64 -183 0K 8K WAIT 2:25  0.00% irq14: 
ata0
   44 root   1 -160 0K 8K psleep   2:17  0.00% 
pagedaemon
13896 daapd  3  200 13916K  2064K kserel   1:53  0.00% mt-daapd
 1461 postgrey   1   40 10572K  5548K select   1:51  0.00% perl5.8.7
  866 root   1   40  3620K  1316K select   1:46  0.00% sendmail



 man top is helpful

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Re: ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules

2006-01-01 Thread perikillo
On 1/1/06, Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 wrote perikillo thusly...
 
  root#chmod +x /etc/rc.d/ipnat.rules

 Why did you need to add execute bit for the rules?


   - Parv

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 No, the file name is ipnat.bug, i make one  mistake here. The
rules continue on /etc. Happy New Year!!!
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Re: disabling my mouse nipple

2006-01-01 Thread Mac Mason
On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 02:02:11PM -0800, Jason Dusek wrote:
 i also have a touchpad, but i can't figure out which device is the
 touchpad and which is the mouse nipple - my dmesg only lists one
 device as a mouse.

IIRC, the two devices are (from the software's point of view) only one
mouse, so you aren't going to be able to disable one or the other.

You might be able to poke around in the BIOS and turn one of them off,
though.

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Re: Free BSD install tutorial I wrote

2006-01-01 Thread Frank J. Laszlo

Allen wrote:

I wrote this quite a while ago and I've posted it to the docs list before and 
it got a good repsonce, but I've seen a couple install questions on here so 
I'm going to link to it again for this list. I don't think there is an easier 
to follow installer help anywhere. Not arrogance, but I did do very well with 
it in making it easy as crap to install:


http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=threadid=259335

You don't have to sign up to read this.

-Allen
 



I dont want this to sound like a flame, though it will probably come 
across that way. But there are many typographical errors in your howto 
and also many misconceptions that could cause newbies to be confused. I 
found myself getting confused and I've been using FreeBSD for years. 
Heres a few notable portions:


A) FreeBSD 5.0 is very old, and was never a production release, I 
noticed you wrote your howto in 2002, so I'll let that one slide.


B) Using words like Hit enter twice down up right etc.. will 
confuse people. you're better of saying something along the lines of. 
Scroll down to 'foo' etc.


C) You make a reference to X86, I assume you mean XFree86

Overall is gives a pretty basic description of the procedure, however 
you should reference the freebsd handbook 
(http://www.freebsd.org/handbook) for more information on certain sections.


Now, heres where its gets raunchy, I read further in the post, and you 
are making reference to security on freebsd. If you actually read the 
advisories, you will notice 9 times out of 10 they are applications on 
the base system, generally not exploitable remotely. Also, You have to 
remember that freebsd base and kernel are developed together, I'll find 
you'll be hard to find a freebsd 'kernel' exploit. Oh, just noticed, you 
said:


User B on the other hand is running Free BSD, and has no idea how to 
update it. SSH was installed and running by default, and the user 
doesn't know how to use upgrade_pkg.


What is upgrade_pkg? I think you mean portupgrade.

Overall, my rant is just the fact I dont think you are in a position to 
be judging security of an OS without knowing the OS. Its apparent that 
you do not. I'm not going to comment on the accuracy of your slackware 
experience, I think I read that you've been using it for 2 years? Good 
luck on your future writing, I hope that I didnt come across to strong 
on this post, But it is what it is.


Regards,
   Frank
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Re: What's using my system?

2006-01-01 Thread Chris
Kirk Strauser wrote:
 On Sunday 01 January 2006 03:19 pm, Chris wrote:
 
 
Try this:

top -S -n 50
 
 
 Here it is.  Note that the WCPU fields don't come anywhere near adding up
 to the missing 42% (100 - ~58%).  Also, the change in last pid is only
 about 13000 over the course of 11000 seconds, and that included a Google
 spider run a couple of hours ago; the median number of forks-per-second is
 much less than 1.
 
 
 
 last pid: 85931;  load averages:  1.29,  0.95,  0.78  up 29+01:08:13
 16:35:27
 306 processes: 5 running, 277 sleeping, 23 waiting, 1 lock
 
Where is the line that reflects CPU states?
This is very misleading without the WHOLE paste.

 Mem: 872M Active, 88M Inact, 222M Wired, 45M Cache, 112M Buf, 17M Free
 Swap: 4096M Total, 205M Used, 3891M Free, 4% Inuse


Here's mine. Where is the REST of your info from the very top.


last pid: 11829;  load averages:  0.03,  0.38,  0.57up 1+23:57:05
18:27:01
123 processes: 2 running, 97 sleeping, 24 waiting
CPU states:  3.1% user,  0.0% nice,  2.7% system,  0.4% interrupt, 93.8%
idle
Mem: 391M Active, 372M Inact, 164M Wired, 44M Cache, 111M Buf, 27M Free
Swap: 2023M Total, 104K Used, 2023M Free


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Re: What's using my system?

2006-01-01 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Sunday 01 January 2006 06:29 pm, Chris wrote:

 Where is the line that reflects CPU states?
 This is very misleading without the WHOLE paste.

My version of top doesn't display the CPU state line when in batch mode.

$ top -S -n 5
last pid: 98339;  load averages:  1.29,  1.62,  1.62  up 29+03:10:1818:37:32
314 processes: 8 running, 284 sleeping, 21 waiting, 1 lock

In batch mode:

Mem: 891M Active, 77M Inact, 221M Wired, 52M Cache, 112M Buf, 3548K Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 313M Used, 3783M Free, 7% Inuse


  PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
   11 root   1 171   52 0K 8K RUN524.5H 42.97% idle
73955 root   1 1000   164M   138M RUN 21:56  7.96% Xorg
88671 kirk   1  990 58644K 30060K select   4:59  5.08% 
gtk-gnutella
74061 kirk   1  970 40608K 26468K select   5:34  1.07% kdeinit
   27 root   1 -32 -151 0K 8K RUN100:01  0.83% swi4: 
clock sio


In interactive mode:

last pid: 98348;  load averages:  3.72,  2.08,  1.78
  up 29+03:10:49  18:38:03
258 processes: 10 running, 248 sleeping
CPU states: 19.8% user,  8.2% nice, 34.2% system,  4.7% interrupt, 33.1% idle
Mem: 874M Active, 98M Inact, 222M Wired, 47M Cache, 112M Buf, 2716K Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 313M Used, 3782M Free, 7% Inuse


I just realized a little earlier that I'm running a build from November 2.
I'm going to make world again and see if the problem fixes itself.
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Re: Free BSD install tutorial I wrote

2006-01-01 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello Allen,

Sunday, January 1, 2006, 11:34:52 PM, you wrote:

 I wrote this quite a while ago and I've posted it to the docs list before and
 it got a good repsonce, but I've seen a couple install questions on here so
 I'm going to link to it again for this list. I don't think there is an easier
 to follow installer help anywhere. Not arrogance, but I did do very well with
 it in making it easy as crap to install:

I think handbook is here for this purpose (and people should be
following it, as it is being updated on regular occasion, though there
is possibility to find out-dated info and people are encouraged to
notify doc@ people to update information provided)

but no offense :)

 http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=threadid=259335

 You don't have to sign up to read this.

 -Allen

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Re: Free BSD install tutorial I wrote

2006-01-01 Thread Allen
On Sunday 01 January 2006 19:09, Frank J. Laszlo wrote:

 User B on the other hand is running Free BSD, and has no idea how to
 update it. SSH was installed and running by default, and the user
 doesn't know how to use upgrade_pkg.

See below, this wasn't a part of the tutorial.

 What is upgrade_pkg? I think you mean portupgrade.

 Overall, my rant is just the fact I dont think you are in a position to
 be judging security of an OS without knowing the OS. Its apparent that
 you do not. I'm not going to comment on the accuracy of your slackware
 experience, I think I read that you've been using it for 2 years? Good
 luck on your future writing, I hope that I didnt come across to strong
 on this post, But it is what it is.

Well the reply you are reffering to is a paper I started writing and haven't 
finished. The first post was the tutorial and a few people asked me to post 
the paper I had been writing, it appears on the same page but has nothing to 
do with the tutorial which is the very first post listed. As I said the other 
reply was a paper I was asked to post so it wasn't part of it in any way 
shape or form.

 Regards,
 Frank
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IPFW FTP

2006-01-01 Thread zhane H
hello
i had a minor question/concern i was wondering why does the firewall
rulesets have permissions for everything, and help for running almosty
anything and how to open and wich port to open but yet it has no exmpale
ruleset or any help for using a FTP while using a firewall such as IPFW. it
has no help in the handbook period. on how to use ftp while using IPFW i
think someone must check this and try to add it in. please
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Re: IPFW FTP

2006-01-01 Thread Scott Smith
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zhane H wrote:
 hello
 i had a minor question/concern i was wondering why does the firewall
 rulesets have permissions for everything, and help for running almosty
 anything and how to open and wich port to open but yet it has no exmpale
 ruleset or any help for using a FTP while using a firewall such as IPFW. it
 has no help in the handbook period. on how to use ftp while using IPFW i
 think someone must check this and try to add it in. please
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Re: What's using my system?

2006-01-01 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 01), Kirk Strauser said:
 I'm staring at top running on my 6.0-STABLE system.  It's my
 desktop machine, and also serves a light web/mail load (including a
 few jails). Basically, the system should be idle about 99% of the
 time when I'm not actively doing something on it.  And yet it's not.
 
 The CPU never gets above about 75% idle, but top never shows any
 processes doing much of anything.  The last pid field only rarely
 increases, so I'm relatively sure there's no processing forking off
 children that die too quickly for top to notice them.
 
 So, what could be using my CPU?  And other than top and tailing
 various logfiles, what tools could help me find out?
 
 Example top output:
 
 last pid: 72475;  load averages:  0.26,  0.80,  1.69 up 28+21:59:16  13:26:30
 214 processes: 4 running, 210 sleeping
 CPU states: 14.7% user,  0.0% nice, 10.5% system,  3.9% interrupt, 70.9% idle
 Mem: 752M Active, 186M Inact, 219M Wired, 63M Cache, 112M Buf, 23M Free
 Swap: 4096M Total, 161M Used, 3934M Free, 3% Inuse
 
   PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 61660 root   1  960 89288K 74624K select  37:50  1.71% Xorg
 61791 kirk   1  960 34704K 25600K select  12:17  1.12% kdeinit
 61822 kirk   1  960 40616K 28980K select  14:55  1.03% kdeinit
 68111 kirk   1  960 33584K 23292K select   0:16  0.15% kdeinit
  1525 ldap   3  200   134M  7136K kserel  80:59  0.00% slapd
 61811 kirk   3  20  -76 16516K 10860K kserel  76:40  0.00% artsd
  1442 mysql  5  200 59576K  2752K kserel  44:14  0.00% mysqld
  1449 nagios 3  200  3900K  1228K kserel  37:36  0.00% nagios

My bets are on the above four processes.  libpthread threads do not report
%CPU usage, but those programs have definitely been consuming cpu since
the TIME column is large.  Switch to libc_r or libthr (you can use
libmap.conf to redirect individual programs) to get useful CPU stats. 
Artsd's cpu usage is very suspicious, since it shouldn't be doing
anything but sending sound samples to /dev/pcm.

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Fwd: 6.0 server

2006-01-01 Thread Daniel A.
Did you install the php4-mysql port? If no, I suggest you take a look
at ports/lang/php4-extensions, and make config.
On 1/1/06, RJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I thaught it would be a good idea to setup a 6.0 server and test it out. Now 
 I have a major headache and need some help.

  Setup:
  FreeBsd 6.0 fresh install, cvsup, make buildworld .. etc:
 portsnap fetch, extract:
 mysql41-server:
 apache13:
 php4: (all from ports)

  Apache starts and I get the default apache page. Made a page with ? 
 phpinfo(): ? and tested, no problems. Made a page with:  ?php
 mysql_connect(localhost, user, password) or die(mysql_error());
 echo Connected to MySQLbr /;
 ?
  When I navigate to the above page it's blank, chmod 777 and still blank.

  Shutdown Mysql and Restart:
   mysqladmin -u root -ppassword shutdown
 restart using:
 /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe -l --log-error --user=mysql 

 sockstat verifies mysql is on 3306 and /tmp/mysql.sock

The page is still blank and after refreshing 3 time and cleaning the 
 browser and the logs file don't show a connect or error. Flushed logs and 
 checked.

Apache file doesn't show any errors and display errors is turned on in 
 php.ini.

 Mysql was installed using, mysql_install_db, chown -R mysql:mysql 
 /var/db/mysql/

  Where do I look now or, does anyone know what needs to be done?

  Regards


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Re: STressing a new server...

2006-01-01 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 12:11:31AM +, Tofik Suleymanov wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 
  Folks,
 
  When I bought this bare-bones box and plugged in stuff
  it took several days of figuring out what benchmark and 
  other utilities to run to stress it.  After a few weeks of 
  pushing the load to 70+, the burning-in was a fair indicator 
  that the HW would last.  After 4+ years, no prob.  Now I
  have a new box, custom built.  
 
  Unfortunately, I've lost (or forgotten!) the same of the
  *.sh script and some of the utilities.  So what should I
  be running and with an example of args?  Last time I believe
  there were 5 or 6 stressors.  
 
  Also, what's the memory testor utility calld?  I have 
  a gig of DDR in this new puppy, and want to be sure that 
  every last BIT is good.
 
  Help much appreciated!
 
  gary
 
 
 
  
 
 Try to do a make buildworld.


Sure; no problem, but I want more.  BTW, most of you already
know this, but it bears re-stating:  even memory and drives that
have been well pounded can go bad after N months.  That's only
happened to me onnce (with memory); a few times with drives.

But failures are more likely in the first several days to a week
or so.  No sense in eating a loss if testing will increase my
odds... .


gary


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Re: STressing a new server...

2006-01-01 Thread Michael Vince

Gary Kline wrote:


Folks,

When I bought this bare-bones box and plugged in stuff
	it took several days of figuring out what benchmark and 
	other utilities to run to stress it.  After a few weeks of 
	pushing the load to 70+, the burning-in was a fair indicator 
	that the HW would last.  After 4+ years, no prob.  Now I
	have a new box, custom built.  


Unfortunately, I've lost (or forgotten!) the same of the
*.sh script and some of the utilities.  So what should I
be running and with an example of args?  Last time I believe
	there were 5 or 6 stressors.  

	Also, what's the memory testor utility calld?  I have 
	a gig of DDR in this new puppy, and want to be sure that 
	every last BIT is good.


Help much appreciated!

gary
 

There is Peter Holm's kernel stress test suite written to stress the 
hell out of FreeBSD

http://www.holm.cc/stress/
As far as I know there are still some outstanding panics in FreeBSD it 
can trigger.

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html

Other then that theres just plenty of stuff in the benchmarks dir of the 
ports tree.


Mike

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natd -redirect_port question

2006-01-01 Thread Laurence Sanford
I have natd set up on a 4.10 box to get the rest of my network on the 
internet. I have an application that requires connections to be able to 
be established on a specific port. The problem is, sometimes I run this 
app on system A and sometimes on system B. The port stays the same. So 
in my rc.conf I have included in natd_flags -redirect_port tcp 
systemA:port port ; currently if I want to use the app on system B I'm 
having to reboot the natd box. Obviously this seems silly, however, I've 
found that trying to reset this information using a command line like: 
natd -n dc0 -redirect_port systemB:port port results in an errror 
stating redirect can't bind to that port, because it's already in use. 
I'm convinced I'm overlooking an easy way to change this redirect on the 
fly without having to reboot the natd box. Anyone care to point me the 
right direction? Thanks in advance.

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Re: natd -redirect_port question

2006-01-01 Thread Matt Emmerton
 I have natd set up on a 4.10 box to get the rest of my network on the
 internet. I have an application that requires connections to be able to
 be established on a specific port. The problem is, sometimes I run this
 app on system A and sometimes on system B. The port stays the same. So
 in my rc.conf I have included in natd_flags -redirect_port tcp
 systemA:port port ; currently if I want to use the app on system B I'm
 having to reboot the natd box. Obviously this seems silly, however, I've
 found that trying to reset this information using a command line like:
 natd -n dc0 -redirect_port systemB:port port results in an errror
 stating redirect can't bind to that port, because it's already in use.
 I'm convinced I'm overlooking an easy way to change this redirect on the
 fly without having to reboot the natd box. Anyone care to point me the
 right direction? Thanks in advance.

If you already have natd running, then you need to stop it first before
starting it up again.

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Where should I address fixes for /usr/src/lib/libc/rpc code to?

2006-01-01 Thread Aluminium Oxide
Hi,

Ive been fixing code in /usr/src/lib/libc/rpc and would like to know
where I should address my attention (and code fixes) to.

Thanks,

Damien Miller

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Re: Where should I address fixes for /usr/src/lib/libc/rpc code to?

2006-01-01 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 02:14:40PM +1030, Aluminium Oxide wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Ive been fixing code in /usr/src/lib/libc/rpc and would like to know
 where I should address my attention (and code fixes) to.

There's the freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org list, and you can always
send-pr(1) your patches at any time.
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Re: Where should I address fixes for /usr/src/lib/libc/rpc code to?

2006-01-01 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 02), Aluminium Oxide said:
 Ive been fixing code in /usr/src/lib/libc/rpc and would like to know
 where I should address my attention (and code fixes) to.

According to src/MAINTAINERS, alfred@ is the go-to guy for rpc code.

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Re: STressing a new server...

2006-01-01 Thread Martin Cracauer
For hardware testing, the best is ports/math/mprime

In combination with memtest86, because mprime doesn't sweep all RAM. 

If you have several processors, be sure to run several instances of
mprime (requires copying the whole mprime directory).

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Help! Hard disk problems

2006-01-01 Thread Anthony M. Agelastos

Hello all,

In doing some routine items on my FreeBSD box, it started behaving  
oddly. I rebooted and to my surprise, I started receiving many  
messages displaying information regarding that /usr has issues. It  
puts me directly into single user mode and tells me to run fsck  
manually. When I run fsck all by itself, here is what it tells me:


** /dev/ad0s1f
** Last Mounted on /usr
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=496000
UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY

CLEAR? [yn]

This is the first time that I have ever run fsck and I have no idea  
what this message means or what the best course of action on CLEAR to  
take. Any input at all would be greatly appreciated (FreeBSD 6.0- 
STABLE if it helps). Thank you all so much for your assistance.


-Anthony


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Re: STressing a new server...

2006-01-01 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 11:20:40PM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
 For hardware testing, the best is ports/math/mprime
 
 In combination with memtest86, because mprime doesn't sweep all RAM. 
 
 If you have several processors, be sure to run several instances of
 mprime (requires copying the whole mprime directory).
 
 Martin
 -- 

Ah, thanks for the tip on mprime.  Would the odds of touch more
RAM improve if I ran several nstatiations of mprime at once, 
perhaps each differently nice'd?

gary


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Re: STressing a new server...

2006-01-01 Thread Martin Cracauer
Gary Kline wrote on Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 08:31:43PM -0800: 
 On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 11:20:40PM -0500, Martin Cracauer wrote:
  For hardware testing, the best is ports/math/mprime
  
  In combination with memtest86, because mprime doesn't sweep all RAM. 
  
  If you have several processors, be sure to run several instances of
  mprime (requires copying the whole mprime directory).
  
  Martin
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   Ah, thanks for the tip on mprime.  Would the odds of touch more
   RAM improve if I ran several nstatiations of mprime at once, 
   perhaps each differently nice'd?

No, prime is best used with nothing else interrupting it, not even
switches to other instances of itself.  One mprime per CPU.  It is a
very tightly written assembly program which cooks the CPU pretty
nicely in torture mode (start with -t).

Remember this is hardware test only, it does nothing about OS hickups.

Martin
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Re: Load Balancing: How Busy are the servers?

2006-01-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier


I just installed cacti, which seems fairly useful for 'long term views' of 
how a server is doing ... now I have to figure out what SNMP MIBs related 
to all of the important things :(




On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Francisco Reyes wrote:


Marc G. Fournier writes:


For all the technology, I was kinda hoping for some 'scientific formula' :)


There are..

Now, I really hate to ask, but how do you use vmstat to get a feel for how 
busy the disk subsystem is?


For me, reading Absolute BSD by Michael Lucas was very helpfull.
In particular Chapter 18, System performance.

The three columns I look at are for vmstat r and b on the left, and 
fault.


r shows how many processes are waiting for CPU, b shows how many 
processes are waiting for disk. The fault column(s) show how badly your 
system is accesing swap.


Quick example:
r b w
2 5 0
1 5 0
2 4 0
2 5 0
3 4 0
1 5 0
1 5 0


That's from my home machine as I am doing some backups.
The machine at this point is more disk bound than CPU bound with 4 to 5 disk 
operations at any point in time waiting for disk access


I am also falling behind in CPU, but not as bad.

On the far right of vmsat you also have CPU stats.. in my case the vmstat 
from the above lines showed 70% to 90% iddle which confirmed I was disk bound 
at that point. 
The fault column show you how actively you are using swap. The lines above 
had between 30 and 200 approximately. If you look at swapinfo and you have a 
large amount of swap in use and then you see a high number in vmstat for 
fault, the machine is short on RAM for the load you have on it.


So far in my experience nothing hurts a machine as badly as hitting swap 
(given that you have adequate CPU/disks). Once you start to hit swap heavily 
you need to do something (if you can...) such as moving services to another 
machine or putting in more memory.


Instead of looking for fixed number I think that relative figures are more 
important.. like looking at your machines at their lowest usage and then at 
their busiest.. or at spikes.. If at slow times of activity the machines are 
already falling behind on b, r on vmstat.. then that machine is 
overloaded.


One possible quick way to start benchmarking your machines, until you can do 
something better is to capture snapshots of vmstat every 15 to 30 minutes and 
take a look.. perhaps even write a short script to summarize it. On my list 
of things to do.. is to do a simple setup of that nature.. just because it 
would be easy to setup and can provide very valuable information until you 
setup something more feature rich. 

top in 5.X branch and up is also very userfull. If you hit m it shows you 
disk processes so you can see what programs are doing the most I/O.


One thing to watch out for in top when using 'm' is if you see all low 
numbers ( hit 'o' to sort and then type 'total').. is that you may have lots 
of programs doing little I/O, but their combined load is a problem for your 
disk subsystem like having 200+ IMAP connections. Each single IMAP 
connection may not be doing more than a handfull of transactions per second, 
but all of them combined can give a disk subsystem a pretty good workout.


The load averages from 'w' are also good figures to do comparative tests. I 
started to wokr on a script (but needs more work) that dumps 'w' and 'vmstat' 
.. next have to work on parsing them and giving summaries. In particular one 
wants to know peak times.. since that is the best time to determine if the 
machine can handle it's load.. and more importantly spikes. If a machine is 
usually under 2.. and it spikes at 5+.. that machine is possibly able to do 
normal loads, but may not be able to handle spikes in traffic (ie a 
customer doing  a mailing list, or a site just got press.. and there are a 
larger number than usual of people going to their URL).


I still thinkg I have MUCH, MUCH to learn.. but I would be glad to expand on 
anything mentioned above.. or anything else. Ultimately each machine/company 
is unique enough that absolute numbers from other people (ie what is a good 
value for 'r' and 'b' to be around most of the time) may be less important 
than learning what are the different figures for your different machines 
under normal operation.






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Re: Load Balancing: How Busy are the servers?

2006-01-01 Thread Francisco Reyes

Marc G. Fournier writes:

I just installed cacti, which seems fairly useful for 'long term views' of 
how a server is doing


Have not played with it, but have read good/favorable comments about it.

I would be nice if you did a mini report of your early impressions later.. 
In particular I think it would be good to know how easy it is to setup and 
what it covers.


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RE: STressing a new server...

2006-01-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

What I did to stress test the last time I did this was build mysql then
run
the stress benchmarking suite that comes with mysql.  I think this is a
better way to do it than running a script, as it puts real-world load on
the
server.  And that benchmark can take days to run depending on the
parameters
you put into it.

Ted

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   Folks,

   When I bought this bare-bones box and plugged in stuff
   it took several days of figuring out what benchmark and
   other utilities to run to stress it.  After a few weeks of
   pushing the load to 70+, the burning-in was a fair indicator
   that the HW would last.  After 4+ years, no prob.  Now I
   have a new box, custom built.

   Unfortunately, I've lost (or forgotten!) the same of the
   *.sh script and some of the utilities.  So what should I
   be running and with an example of args?  Last time I believe
   there were 5 or 6 stressors.

   Also, what's the memory testor utility calld?  I have
   a gig of DDR in this new puppy, and want to be sure that
   every last BIT is good.

   Help much appreciated!

   gary



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Cacti (Was: Re: Load Balancing: How Busy are the servers?)

2006-01-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Francisco Reyes wrote:


Marc G. Fournier writes:

I just installed cacti, which seems fairly useful for 'long term views' of 
how a server is doing


Have not played with it, but have read good/favorable comments about it.

I would be nice if you did a mini report of your early impressions 
later.. In particular I think it would be good to know how easy it is to 
setup and what it covers.


'k, I'm terrible at 'reports', but ... to be totally honest, this has 
gotta be one of the nicer pieces of software I've played with as far as 
documentation *especially* for OSS ...


I installed it out of ports, initially directly on one of our servers, 
mistakenly thinking I needed to do one install per server ... ended up 
moving it into a vServer so that I can easily move it around as I get more 
powerful servers, instead of having it tied to a specific machine ...


On all our other servers, I just had to install the net-snmp port, to give 
it something to talk to ...


The hardest part about setting things up with setting up snmpd, but ended 
up running snmpconf -i to do this (snmpconf -g basic is apparently 
slightly easier too) ... once I built the initial snmpd.conf file, I just 
copied that to the other servers, instead of building one for each ...


The Cacti port ends up with a short message that tells you step by step 
what needs to be done ... it has one error, in that the crontab entry it 
tells you to create appears to be wrong ... does Linux support a 'user to 
run as' arg within their crontab?


After that, so far, I've just used the 'default net-snmp' settings that 
come with Cacti ... haven't had a chance to dive into snmp yet, to figure 
out what else can be monitored ...


I currently have it monitoring CPU, Load, Traffic and Memory Usage

You can setup Graph Trees, so you can group Graphs together .. ie. all 
the CPU Usage graphs for all (or groups of) servers, so that you can 
compare them ...


So far, at least, definitely a tool I'd recommend ... so far, seems to 
work well ...



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Fetch dependencies from LAN

2006-01-01 Thread Nguyen Danh Hieu
I am using FreeBSD 6.0 now and there is a ftp server in  my local 
network at which we can find every needed dependencies. What should I do 
to make my computer fetch dependencies  from the server instead of  
ftp://bsd.org or other global server

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Re: Fetch dependencies from LAN

2006-01-01 Thread Matt Emmerton
 I am using FreeBSD 6.0 now and there is a ftp server in  my local 
 network at which we can find every needed dependencies. What should I do 
 to make my computer fetch dependencies  from the server instead of  
 ftp://bsd.org or other global server

Set MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE=hostname in /etc/make.conf.

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